WAAAY OT: Farmville; Optimizing Seeds

Submitted by SFBayAreaBlue on

Well, it's the offseason, BBall and Hockey both look like they're going to miss tournament play, and even the Redwings are flirting with missing the playoffs in like 2 decades. I can't bring myself to watch and analyze the football replays because I already know the conclusion: we're not a very good team yet. Sports are not very entertaining to me right now.

So, what's a guy to do with all his spare time?  A guy who's a bit anal and likes to think in spreadsheets...How about doing a cost/benefit analysis for all the seeds available in farmville!! And it's not even completely OT because I remember Brian and Tim talking about it once in a podcast. 

The questions is; 'what to plant?'  That depends on three major considerations.  A) Do you want to maximize money? or B) Do you want to maximize experience and C) How much time are trying to waste on this stupid game? I think this calls for a chart! 

Chart?
Chart.

seed price payout time xp profit/hr xp/day xp/day M
superpumpkin 30 100 4 1 13.75 12.00 15.00
forgetmenot 45 126 18 2 3.67 4.00 4.67
strawberries 10 35 4 1 2.50 12.00 15.00
eggplant 25 88 48 2 1.00 1.50 1.75
wheat 35 115 72 2 0.90 1.00 1.17
soybeans 15 63 24 2 1.38 3.00 3.50
squash 40 121 48 2 1.38 1.50 1.75
pumpkins 30 68 8 1 2.88 6.00 7.50
artichokes 70 204 96 2 1.24 0.75 0.88
rice 45 96 12 1 3.00 4.00 5.00
raspberries 20 46 2 0 5.50 12.00 18.00
daffodils 60 135 48 2 1.25 1.50 1.75
cotton 75 207 72 2 1.63 1.00 1.17
cranberries 55 98 10 1 2.80 4.80 6.00
bell peppers 75 198 48 2 2.25 1.50 1.75
peppers 70 162 24 2 3.21 3.00 3.50
morning glory 60 123 12 1 4.00 4.00 5.00
aloe vera 50 86 6 1 3.50 8.00 10.00
pineapples 95 242 48 2 2.75 1.50 1.75
red tulips 75 159 24 2 2.88 3.00 3.50
pattypan squash 65 160 16 1 5.00 3.00 3.75
blueberries 50 91 4 1 6.50 12.00 15.00
watermelon 130 348 96 2 2.11 0.75 0.88
grapes 85 270 24 2 7.08 3.00 3.50
tomatoes 100 173 8 1 7.25 6.00 7.50
pink roses 120 254 48 2 2.48 1.50 1.75
potatoes 135 345 72 2 2.71 1.00 1.17
carrots 110 200 12 1 6.25 4.00 5.00
coffee 120 243 16 1 6.75 3.00 3.75
corn 150 380 72 2 2.99 1.00 1.17
sunflowers 135 315 24 2 6.88 3.00 3.50
ghost chili 80 136 6 1 6.83 8.00 10.00
cabbage 140 388 48 2 4.85 1.50 1.75
grean tea 105 191 10 1 7.10 4.80 6.00
black berries 75 117 4 1 6.75 12.00 15.00
red wheat 180 449 72 2 3.53 1.00 1.17
lavender 160 384 48 2 4.35 1.50 1.75
sugarcane 165 239 8 1 7.38 6.00 7.50
peas 190 381 24 3 7.33 4.00 4.50
yellow melon 205 528 96 2 3.21 0.75 0.88
onion 170 275 12 1 7.50 4.00 5.00
broccoli 200 473 48 2 5.38 1.50 1.75
lilies 195 369 24 2 6.63 3.00 3.50
acorn squash 175 258 10 1 6.80 4.80 6.00
asparagus 220 357 16 2 7.63 4.50 5.25


As you can see, the seeds that take the shortest amount of time to mature are the best ones to plant for experience due to the fact that you get 1 xp each time you plow the land.  The seeds that take longer to mature generally give better profit because you don't lose out on the 15 coins for each plow. 

The trade off is that seeds with short incubation periods require much more time from you to be clicking away at them.  This is reduced somewhat after you can afford the vehicles. 

The efficiency numbers for profit and xp are actually exaggerated a bit for the quicker seeds because you usually waste some time between when the crops are ready and when you actually harvest them.  So think of the chart as a best case scenario. This wasted time decreases as a percentage for the longer incubation seeds.

You also have to consider the risk of missing a harvest interval and losing your crops.  So quick seeds carry two negatives, a higher risk of loss, and more loss due to time loss.

Another interesting point is to see what effect mastering a seed to level 3 will have.  After you reach mastery, the crops will give extra experience what seems like a little more than half the time.  So the last column is just an approximation.  But what it does is make raspberries a much better tool for gaining xp quickly.

There are also two limited time seeds listed right now.  As you can see, the super pumpkin is off the charts, so if you have the time to make harvesting appointments, you really shouldn't be planting anything else.

Comments

osdihg

January 27th, 2010 at 6:18 AM ^

I haven't played Farmville but, seeing that I need a cure for my depression, I might pick it up. I loved Harvest Moon on the N64 10+ years ago, how similar is Farmville to that?

Lordfoul

January 27th, 2010 at 7:15 AM ^

I haven't played Farmville either, but I know it is a Facebook thing and no doubt a huge time-waster. I am not on Facebook despite my wife's pleas because MGoBlog is my time-waster of choice. I would have been very happy to never have Facebook brought up on MGoBlog at all (yes, including re: recruiting) and seeing diary entries about silly Facebook games is depressing on a Wednesday morning. Thanks for the OT but this is board material IME.

jg2112

January 27th, 2010 at 7:30 AM ^

Late last night I briefly considered going to the main Farmville fansite and posting a longform piece about Michigan football in their "Diaries" section. I thought better of it.

bigmc6000

January 27th, 2010 at 8:30 AM ^

I got totally burned out on Farmville when I got to the point where I had unlocked everything and have the 24x24 farm - even with the machines it just takes way too freakin' long. As opposed to Cafe World where the most stoves you can have is 16 and they actually do give you more XP the longer your food takes to cook. That keeps the ultra bored people from beating the people who only have time once or twice a day to play. Of course I've now unlocked everything on that game as well so hopefully they'll come up with something new soon...

bigmc6000

January 27th, 2010 at 9:21 AM ^

I used to play some kind of that on my iPhone. I was playing that and Kingdoms Live, Racing Live, Rock Star Live and World War - needless to say I got burned out on all of them after a while since I was playing all of them. I can't remember what level I was but I think I was pretty well off - not like 260 or anything but maybe it took longer to level up on the one I was playing. Like with Farmville you max out at level 35ish but on Cafe World you max out around 64 and I got there a lot quicker than I got to 35 in Farmville.

mblood7

January 27th, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^

Well in my defense I've had mafia wars for about 2 years and only check it maybe once or twice a week now, but I just can't get into a game about farming. I am currently wanting for someone to make a game about managing a football team. I think I could get into that. Maybe?

MMBhorn

January 27th, 2010 at 9:53 AM ^

I played farmville for a while but I have up on it. Now I play D&D Mini adventures (lolgeek) and phpDiplomacy (a facebook version of the board game. It's great) Would anyone be interested in some Mgodiplomacy? It would be a good way to kill time in the offseason and make some new enemies.

Feat of Clay

January 27th, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^

I think Farmville gets boring fast, but they're starting to add some things to pick it up, like the new collections. Best tip I got was to trap your farmer in the center of your farm. Then you don't have to wait for it to walk over to your chicken coop (or whatever) when you're clicking on stuff. As long as your farmer can't move, Farmville will go a lot faster. Just clear the center square (where your farmer is when you open the game) and surround the square with hay bales. Voila, trapped farmer. Mafia Wars is my bigger time waster.

UMFootballCrazy

January 27th, 2010 at 10:13 AM ^

I showed this post to my wife who is a Farmville addict and even she rolled her eyes and said, "Someone needs to get a life." NOTE: only six days and 13 hours till signing day (Scout has a countdown clock) NOTE 2: Farmville has Superbowl themed items so you can mix your love of football and Farmville at the same time... The end of August cannot come soon enough...

Elise

January 27th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^

For all the people calling out the nerdiness of the post... are you aware of the foundation on which this blog rests? Have you ever read a UFR? This isn't M football, but only because it's winter and we have football cabin fever. Hate to break it to ya, but by default you are a nerd just by being here. Welcome to the club! The Kool-Aid is in the corner, we have monthly burnings of "Rudy" on DVD as well as VHS, and don't forget to sign up for the "Meme of the Month" newsletter.

Anonymosity

January 27th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^

I don't play Farmville, but sometimes my newsfeed has messages from one of my friends that read something like "So-and-so would like help fertilizing her crops." I assume this means that she wants to use my excrement as fertilizer, so I take a dump in a box and mail it to her each time. Weird game, huh?

MFreak

January 27th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^

I was finally able to drag myself away from farmville, but they way I used to handl it was planting berries all day and then an 8 hour crop overnight. I also used a program called gridclicker where you set the size and number of boxes in the grid, lined it up and clicked one button. That allowed me to save money for other things which could get me experience and help in expanding my farm more than a vehicle ever could. FWIW I felt look an intense nerd using a secondary program to enhance a game on facebook.

Geaux_Blue

January 27th, 2010 at 3:23 PM ^

i asked Carvin Johnson what he thought and he argued that the forgetmenot wasn't worth the time put into it. i immediately 'liked' his comment but that got Ricardo all up in arms bc apparently he's really big on those. it was SO hilarious, you should go check on there. it's this big comment thing on his wall right below Josh Tapleton of Ohio saying 'suck it, go OSU' and Ryan Friedman from Brighton saying 'KICK SOME ASS NEXT YEAR! Do you know anything about Baxter?'

Don

January 28th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^

And that goes for my wife who might be reading this. Where's my dinner?? Edit: she read all the comments and thought it was all hilarious. I still don't have my dinner.