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USC Players Eligible To Transfer Scot-Free

By Brian — June 11th, 2010 at 12:38 PM — 95 comments
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I'm just sayin'. Two-deep players bolded.

NO NAME POS HT WT YR EXP Hometown (Last School)
94 Armstead, Armond DE 06/05/10 295 JR 2V Sacramento (Pleasant Grove)
97 Jackson, Malik DE 06/05/10 245 JR 2V Northridge (Birmingham)
91 Casey, Jurrell DT 06/01/10 295 JR 2V Long Beach (Poly)
92 Fangupo, Hebron DT 06/02/10 330 RS JR 1V Santa Ana, Calif. (Mt. San Antonio JC)
98 Harris, DaJohn DT 06/04/10 295 RS JR 2V Inglewood (Serra)
90 Simmons, Derek DT 06/04/10 285 RS SR 3V Suisun (Armijo)
44 Tupou, Christian DT 06/02/10 285 SR 3V Sacramento (Grant)
46 Cumming, Ross LB 06/01/10 220 JR 2V Laguna Niguel (Santa Margarita/Naval Acad. Prep)
37 Campbell, Jordan LB 05/11/10 230 RS JR 2V Corona (Norco)
54 Galippo, Chris LB 06/02/10 250 RS JR 3V Corona (Servite)
23 Horton, Shane LB 06/01/10 210 RS JR 1V Chatsworth (UNLV)
17 Morgan, Michael LB 06/04/10 220 RS SR 3V Dallas, TX (Skyline)
6 Smith, Malcolm LB 06/01/10 225 SR 3V Northridge (Taft)
38 Bryant, T.J. CB 06/01/00 180 JR 2V Tallahassee, FL (Lincoln)
35 Ashton, Taylor CB 05/08/10 170 RS JR TR Mission Viejo (Arizona State)
47 Harbin, James CB 05/10/10 175 RS JR Los Angeles (Los Angeles Southwest JC)
26 Harper, Daniel CB 05/10/10 180 RS JR 2V Rancho Cucamonga, CA (Damien)
41 Noble, Allen CB 06/01/00 190 RS JR SQ Denver, CO (Mt. San Antonio JC)
35 Taylor, Ashton CB 05/08/10 170 RS JR TR Mission Viejo (Arizona State)
24 Wright, Shareece CB 06/01/00 185 RS SR 4V Colton (Colton)
45 Crittenden, Omari CB 06/01/00 180 SR SQ Modesto, CA (Modesto JC)
19 McAllister, Drew S 06/01/10 195 JR 2V Danville (Monte Vista)
49 McMahon, Ryan S 06/01/00 195 JR 2V Daimond Bar (Damien)
27 Jones, Marshall S 06/01/00 190 RS JR 3V Agoura Hills (Oaks Christian)
34 Spiegel, Spencer S 05/11/10 175 RS JR SQ Los Angeles (Harvard-Westlake)
14 Kan, Brett QB 06/02/10 195 RS JR TR Honolulu, HI (Punahou)
16 Mustain, Mitch QB 06/03/10 200 RS SR 2V Springdale, AR (Arkansas)
26 Tyler, Marc TB 06/01/00 225 RS JR 1V Lancaster (Oaks Christian)
21 Bradford, Allen TB 05/11/10 235 RS SR 4V San Bernardino (Colton)
2 Gable, C.J. TB 06/01/00 205 RS SR 4V Sylmar (Sylmar)
27 Mokhtar, Ahmed TB 06/01/00 210 RS JR SQ Laguna Beach (OSU/Orange Coast College)
10 Shoemate, D.J. FB 06/01/00 220 JR 2V Corona (Servite)
31 Havili, Stanley FB 06/01/10 230 RS SR 4V Salt Lake City, UT (Cottonwood)
80 Carswell, Brandon WR 06/01/10 185 RS JR 2V Milpitas (Milpitas)
22 Ness, Drew WR 06/01/00 190 RS JR SQ San Diego (Westview)
9 Ausberry, David WR 06/04/10 235 RS SR 3V Lemoore (Lemoore)
17 Patterson, Travon WR 05/10/10 175 RS SR 4V Long Beach (Poly)
47 Stephens, Scott WR 06/01/10 185 RS SR 1V Pasadena, CA (St. Francis)
83 Johnson, Ronald WR 06/01/00 190 SR 3V Muskegon, MI (Muskegon)
88 Ayles, Blake TE 06/05/10 245 JR 1V Orange (Orange Lutheran)
40 Ellison, Rhett TE 06/05/10 255 RS JR 2V Portola Valley (St. Francis)
84 Kusnir, Zack TE 06/06/10 260 RS JR   La Jolla, Calif. (San Diego State)
23 Cameron, Jordan TE 06/05/10 220 RS SR 2V Newbury Park, CA (BYU)
67 Reardon, Michael C 06/05/10 285 RS JR 1V Anaheim (Orange Lutheran)
61 O'Dowd, Kristofer C 06/05/10 300 SR 3V Tucson, AZ (Salpointe Catholic)
74 Heberer, Zack OG 06/05/10 290 RS SR 3V San Pedro (San Pedro)
68 Lewis, Butch OG 06/05/10 285 RS SR 3V Denver, CO (Regis Jesuit)
70 Smith, Tyron OT 06/06/10 285 JR 2V Moreno Valley (Rancho Verde)
72 Coleman, Martin OT 06/05/10 315 RS JR 2V Huntington Beach (Edison)
25 Roepke, Boomer P 05/09/10 180 RS JR SQ Reno, NV (Reno)
30 Houston, Joe K 05/08/10 175 RS SR SQ Redondo Beach, CA (El Camino JC)
48 Harfman, Jacob P 05/11/10 200 SR 1V Chino (Mt. San Antonio JC)
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June 11th, 2010 at 12:45 PM
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After further review of USC courses

None are eligible to transfer to M because the classes are High School equivalent.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:49 PM
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USC has pretty darn good

USC has pretty darn good academics. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story...

 

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-southern-california/71124...

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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Did not expect to see Central Michigan at 99!

Okay, so maybe it is that school in Pennsylvania.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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Facts have no place on an

Facts have no place on an internet message board post mocking another school. Didnt you get the memo?

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June 13th, 2010 at 3:54 AM
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cmu = carnegie mellon

cmu = carnegie mellon

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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Maybe it is just me, but I

Maybe it is just me, but I feel a bit bad picking over the carcas of USC before the body is even cold.  We are talking about one of the premiere football programs in all the land, and even though they are suffering right now, maybe we should all take a step back and grieve for them...

 

Okay, almost held it together.  Screw USC and its clearly disregard for the rules.  I'm still not completely comfortable with the idea of these kids being treated like an extra ball in the pinball game of recruiting, but USC deserves to have a mass exodus and be left in a lurch for a couple of years.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:48 PM
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In my best Lloyd Christmas voice...

"Well pick em up!"

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:48 PM
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Next year would look a lot

Next year would look a lot better with Ro-Jo, Chris Gallipo, and a misc 4-5 star CB or two.  Is it a recruiting violation to post Michigan's returning secondary on a billboard outside of the USC weight room?

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:49 PM
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The Prodigal son returns?

C'mon RoJo!

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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Welcome to USC, can I take your order??

I'd like a ball-hawking safety, a tall cover corner with quick recovery, and a linebacker with natural pursuit skills.  To go.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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How many scholarships do we

How many scholarships do we have?

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:00 PM
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AFAIK, we had one.  Without

AFAIK, we had one.  Without Dorsey, we have two.  Without Kinard, we could have three.  Rumor is that there's another 2010 kid who's academically questionable, too.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:04 PM
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Agreed

I don't see many transfers happening - at least none that benefit UM.  For a kid to travel halfway across the country, he would have had to have been seriously close to picking UM before or from the midwest - but even someone like that (let's leave RoJo out of this), would have established bonds/ties to the former regime, not RR.  Just seems unlikely to me.

Unfortunately, UM's program just isn't in the best shape to take advantage of other big time programs stumbles, given UM's current (though far less serious, as compared to USC's) stumbles.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:17 PM
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Or...He is second string with

Or...He is second string with no hopes of starting and he sees a very bright future as an automatic starter here.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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Dear Corner Backs, Safeties

Dear Corner Backs, Safeties and Linebackers,

Hi.

-Michigan

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:42 PM
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Agree

I think we should be looking at players who would not be starters for USC in their remaining year or two at USC, but could likely get some playing time at UM. I figure if you are currently a starter at SC, no reason to transfer, but if you are 2nd team or worse, why wouldn't you transfer.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:56 PM
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Reality?

Is Michigan realistically looking to poach some of these players?  How will this process work?  We desperately need the help...getting anyone off the two deep roster would be amazing.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:57 PM
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Top 2 USC Recruits for 2011 remain solid

 I find it interesting that the top two recruits (QB and WR at Mater Dei H.S.) coming in next year to USC aren't phased by the announcement of NCAA sanctions.

I do think Mike Garrett will be fired over the next couple of months, which might apply some unwanted heat on Mr. Kiffin should he continue the secondary violations parade and otherwise not perform.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:08 PM
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Remember, they're 2011 kids,

Remember, they're 2011 kids, so you're talking about them only missing 1 year of postseason, and it's a year they probably won't be playing in anyways, as freshman QBs and WRs probably aren't going to start at USC

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June 11th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
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Although I agree with most of

Although I agree with most of this, don't forget Barkley started as a true freshman.

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June 11th, 2010 at 4:35 PM
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Three straight years with

Three straight years with only 15 scholarships is going to kill the program.

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June 11th, 2010 at 6:00 PM
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Yeah, but Mater Dei is pretty

Yeah, but Mater Dei is pretty much a big feeder to USC so USC might be their dream school, violations or not. 

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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I think maybe 1 or 2 kids

I think maybe 1 or 2 kids will leave. All the speculation is fun, but I really don't expect much out of this, especially for Michigan.

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June 11th, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but a

Maybe it's just me, but a post-season ban probably wouldn't cause me to move halfway across the country if I were about to start my senior year.  And the scholarship reductions won't affect the 2010 seniors, anyway.  So I wouldn't expect a flurry of seniors to transfer - no RoJo, no Mitch Mustain, etc.

The juniors and [potentially] Class of 2010 recruits are probably the ones more ripe for the picking.  And even so, I doubt many will consider Michigan.  The speculation about these kids coming to Michigan is probably much ado about nothing.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:02 PM
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What if some of the players

What if some of the players hate Kiffin? If there was a post season bad, on top of not liking the new coach, I would have to think about bailing.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:30 PM
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While your point stands...

wasn't Kiffin on staff when most of these guys were recruited?

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:34 PM
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Some of these kids might have

Some of these kids might have been recruited by Kiffin.  He might be one reason they came to USC in the first place.  He coached for them through the 2006 season,   That means he was recruiting kids up through the Class of 2007.  So this year's seniors, redshirt juniors, and 5th year seniors would have been recruited or coached by a staff that included Kiffin, at least until January '07.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:39 PM
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Lane Kiffin was the offensive

Lane Kiffin was the offensive coordinator, so I'm sure he knows some of the offensive players, but had little routine contact with the defensive players. I'm not at all saying mass transfers are likely, but you can't rule it out.

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June 11th, 2010 at 2:07 PM
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not ruling it out...

...just doubting it.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:32 PM
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I agree that UM probably

I agree that UM probably isn't on the radar for most of these kids, but don't be surprised to see some of the juniors at least consider a place like UM, especially on defense.  If they are not going to stay at USC, those kids are going to want to go to schools where they will have a chance to start immediately, and most elite programs have a clear pipeline from recruit to starter.  Breaking into that setup might be difficult, irrespective of how talented the player may be.  At UM, you get a name-brand school with walk-ons on the two-deep. 

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June 11th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
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I mostly agree

However, given his history, I would not be surprised to see Mustain leave, ESPECIALLY if he can do so without sitting out (again).

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June 11th, 2010 at 5:51 PM
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Boy Arkansas doesn't look so

Boy Arkansas doesn't look so bad, too bad they have one of the best QB's in the country already

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June 11th, 2010 at 10:48 PM
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Maybe he could reunite with

Maybe he could reunite with Houston Nutt at Ole Miss!

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June 11th, 2010 at 4:48 PM
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Are you able to give us a

Are you able to give us a quick rundown on which of these players Michigan previously recruited?

Obviously, Ron Johnson. Anyone else? I seem to have a vague recollection that we recruited Gallipo.

Thanks for anything you can provide.

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June 11th, 2010 at 5:08 PM
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It might....

It might be more worthwhile to see who Rich Rodriguez recruited personally. The juniors, redshirt juniors, and the seniors would have been recruited by Rich Rod at West Virginia.

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June 11th, 2010 at 6:17 PM
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Take a trip to SC Tom and

Take a trip to SC Tom and work your magic!

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June 11th, 2010 at 5:22 PM
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I'm not entirely certain.  I

I'm not entirely certain.  I paid way less attention to recruiting in 2006/2007.  We offered TJ Bryant, but I'm not sure about the other guys.  I don't imagine many of them were ever too serious about Michigan.  Most kids from California who get offers don't show more than cursory interest, it seems.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:08 PM
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Not to be Debbie Downer...

Not to be Debbie Downer... but how does transfering to Michigan automatically put these kids in a bowl game? 

I'd love to see Michigan go 13-0 this year and all and really do think they can win 8 or 9... but let's say they fall a little short of that.  Are USC kids going to be fired up to transfer to a place that's going to take them to the Alamo Bowl? 

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June 11th, 2010 at 5:48 PM
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It might not put them in a

It might not put them in a bowl game it does increase their chances of being on national tv and also maybe their family can now see them on the big ten network, if they are from the midwest ie... Ronald Johnson from Muskegon

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June 11th, 2010 at 6:17 PM
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Starting and producing is

Starting and producing is more important than wins. See Brandon Graham for more info if interested.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:13 PM
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Only Chance

Our only chance to even have a shot with anyone is the promise of immediate starter, IE... a DB or Safety maybe, but that would be a extreme longshot as well.

At this point though how many top notch schools have schollies available for this year?

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:13 PM
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any players transferring due to a

post-season ban, will not likely be looking to go to a team in the midst of a post-season drought

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June 11th, 2010 at 2:02 PM
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You're correct about that,

You're correct about that, but USC is in the uncommon position of having a ton of really talented kids buried on their depth chart.  A rising Junior could very well see the writing on the wall and use the provision to enable him to transfer to a school with a favorable depth chart (hello Michigan's secondary) and use the opportunity as his shot to be drafted--or at least get some substantial playing time.

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June 11th, 2010 at 4:03 PM
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Exactly

I don't think you'll necessarily see the stars leave.  They're good enough on their own to make careers.  It's someone who's in an equivalant position as say JB Fitzgerald at Michigan.  It just doesn't look like significant playing time is ever going to be in the cards for him.  But, if that guy is still hanging onto NFL dreams, this is his get out of jail free card to find a program that needs him, a marriage made in heaven. 

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June 12th, 2010 at 1:07 PM
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true dat

Question then, is it ethical to contact them and broach the possibility, or does the staff have to kind of sit an wait, hoping someone calls them up and asks?

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:23 PM
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Pac1X Scholarships?

Looking at the amount of players from the West Coast (obviously lots of them) on this list leads me to a question I haven't seen addressed.

If one of these guys wants to go to a Pac 1X team, are they eligible to get a scholarship?  I ask because as we all know from the Boren situation, if a player transfers from one Big 10 school to another they are not eligible for a scholarship in the new school.

Does this rule apply across all conferences (specifically the Pac 1X)?

It would seeem that if it does, that would give us a bigger shot a landing a player since they would be much more likely to look at a long-distance move if they're unable to go to another Pac 1X team.

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June 11th, 2010 at 1:32 PM
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Those teams won't join the

Those teams won't join the Pac10 until 2012 anyway, so yes they can.

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June 12th, 2010 at 9:14 AM
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Pac10 won't waive rule

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5275644

... the Pac-10 would not waive the one-year transfer ineligibility rule in this case. This means, effectively, USC players won't transfer within the conference. A Pac-10 official confirmed the stipulation to the Seattle Times on Friday.

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June 12th, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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I originally thought he was

I originally thought he was asking about the expansion teams from the Big12. Now that I have read over it again, I see what he was asking.

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June 12th, 2010 at 7:23 PM
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I would say

if thats the case then if any of them do transfer out, Michigan has just as good of a shot as anyone. I would think a lot of those guys would want to stick to the Pac coast.

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