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Top 100 Players for Scout, Rivals, 247 - Edit
As we approach the finish line for recruiting, I thought it might be interesting to compare the Top 100 players for each of the top 3 recruiting sites.
As fans, we tend to favor the particular site that ranks our recruits the highest. I thought it might be interesting to see how many players are universally lauded.
Seven of our current commits are in the Top 100 of at least one site, but surprisingly only two* of our current commits made all three lists. Scout would seem to be our favorite service this year since they have five our our current commits on their list.
Other schools of note for their success:
- Alabama has ten recruits that make at least one of the lists.
- Florida State has seven recruits that make at least one of the lists.
- Texas has eleven recruits that make at least one of the lists.
- Miami (YTM) has six recruits that make at least one of the lists.
B1G Members & Notre Dame:
- Iowa has only one recruit that makes at least one of the lists.
- Michigan State has only one recruit that makes at least one of the lists.
- Northwestern has only one recruit that makes at least one of the lists.
- Notre Dame has seven recruits that make at least one of the lists.
- Ohio State has five recruits that make at least one of the lists.
- Penn State has two recruits that make at least one of the lists (one is Armani Reeves).
- Wisconsin has three recruits that make at least one of the lists.
With just a few weeks until signing day there are still 35 uncommited players that make one of the three top 100 lists.
The composite list in alphabetical order by School of interest:
| Name | Pos | School | Hometown | Schools of Interest | 247 Rank | 247 Rating | Rivals Rank | Rivals Rating | Scout Rank | Scout Rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Amari Cooper | WR | Northwestern | Miami, FL | Alabama | N/A | N/A | 62 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Chris Black | WR | First Coast | Jacksonville, FL | Alabama | 27 | 5 stars | 37 | 4 stars | 92 | 4 Star |
| Cyrus Jones | ATH | Gilman | Baltimore, MD | Alabama | 93 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 46 | 5 Star |
| Eddie Williams | ATH | Arnold | Panama City Beach, FL | Alabama | 13 | 5 stars | 23 | 5 stars | 54 | 4 Star |
| Geno Smith | CB | St. Pius X | Atlanta, GA | Alabama | 39 | 4 stars | 61 | 4 stars | 82 | 4 Star |
| Kenyan Drake | APB | Hillgrove | Powder Springs, GA | Alabama | 73 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Landon Collins | S | Dutchtown | Geismar, LA | Alabama | 3 | 5 stars | 15 | 5 stars | 12 | 5 Star |
| Reggie Ragland | ILB | Bob Jones | Madison, AL | Alabama | 66 | 4 stars | 83 | 4 stars | 36 | 5 Star |
| Ryan Anderson | WDE | Daphne | Daphne, AL | Alabama | 51 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| T.J. Yeldon | RB | Daphne | Daphne, AL | Alabama | 16 | 5 stars | 24 | 5 stars | 59 | 4 Star |
| JaQuay Williams | WR | Sandy Creek | Tyrone, GA | Auburn | N/A | N/A | 78 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Ricky Parks | TE | Callaway | Hogansville, GA | Auburn | 67 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Tanner Mangum | PRO | Eagle | Eagle, ID | BYU | 43 | 4 stars | 42 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Bryce Treggs | WR | St. John Bosco | Bellflower, CA | California | N/A | N/A | 73 | 4 stars | 47 | 5 Star |
| Ellis McCarthy | DT | Monrovia | Monrovia, CA | California | 31 | 4 stars | 17 | 5 stars | 33 | 5 Star |
| Jordan Payton | WR | (Oaks Christian HS) | Westlake Village, CA | California | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 91 | 4 Star |
| Shaq Thompson | ATH | Grant Union | Sacramento, CA | California | 10 | 5 stars | 7 | 5 stars | 11 | 5 Star |
| Zach Kline | PRO | San Ramon Valley | Danville, CA | California | 72 | 4 stars | 63 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Carlos Watkins | DT | Chase | Forest City, NC | Clemson | 40 | 4 stars | 86 | 4 stars | 65 | 4 Star |
| Chad Kelly | QB | St. Joseph School | Buffalo, NY | Clemson | 87 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Germone Hopper | WR | Phillip O Berry Acad Of Tech | Charlotte, NC | Clemson | N/A | N/A | 67 | 4 stars | 97 | 4 Star |
| Travis Blanks | DB | North Florida Christian | Tallahassee, FL | Clemson | N/A | N/A | 41 | 4 stars | 88 | 4 Star |
| Brian Poole | DB | Southeast | Bradenton, FL | Florida | N/A | N/A | 85 | 4 stars | 28 | 5 Star |
| D.J. Humphries | OT | Mallard Creek | Charlotte, NC | Florida | 9 | 5 stars | 3 | 5 stars | 19 | 5 Star |
| Jessamen Dunker | OT | (Boynton Beach Community HS) | Boynton Beach, FL | Florida | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 66 | 4 Star |
| Jonathan Bullard | SDE | Crest | Shelby, NC | Florida | 44 | 4 stars | 20 | 5 stars | 31 | 5 Star |
| Kent Taylor | TE | Land O' Lakes | Land O'Lakes, FL | Florida | N/A | N/A | 56 | 4 stars | 86 | 4 Star |
| Chris Casher | WDE | WP Davidson | Mobile, AL | Florida St. | 37 | 4 stars | 43 | 4 stars | 64 | 4 Star |
| Dante Fowler | WDE | Lakewood | Saint Petersburg, FL | Florida St. | 50 | 4 stars | 35 | 4 stars | 79 | 4 Star |
| Jameis Winston | DUAL | Hueytown | Bessemer, AL | Florida St. | 4 | 5 stars | 10 | 5 stars | 20 | 5 Star |
| Marcus Maye | S | (Holy Trinity Episcopal School) | Melbourne, FL | Florida St. | N/A | N/A | 51 | 4 stars | 94 | 4 Star |
| Mario Edwards | SDE | Ryan | Denton, TX | Florida St. | 6 | 5 stars | 4 | 5 stars | 7 | 5 Star |
| Mario Pender | RB | Island Coast | Cape Coral, FL | Florida St. | 36 | 4 stars | 33 | 4 stars | 50 | 4 Star |
| Ukeme Eligwe | LB | Stone Mountain | Stone Mountain, GA | Florida St. | N/A | N/A | 38 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Justin Shanks | DT | (Prattville HS) | Prattville, AL | Florida State | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 90 | 4 Star |
| Markuss Eligwe | OLB | (Stone Mountain HS) | Stone Mountain, GA | Florida State | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 77 | 4 Star |
| John Theus | OT | The Bolles School | Jacksonville, FL | Georgia | 8 | 5 stars | 11 | 5 stars | 4 | 5 Star |
| Jonathan Taylor | DT | Jenkins County | Millen, GA | Georgia | 62 | 4 stars | 55 | 4 stars | 81 | 4 Star |
| Keith Marshall | APB | Millbrook | Raleigh, NC | Georgia | 11 | 5 stars | 31 | 4 stars | 5 | 5 Star |
| Justin Thomas | ATH | Prattville | Prattville, AL | Georgia Tech | 94 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Ryan Ward | OL | Providence Catholic | New Lenox, IL | Iowa | N/A | N/A | 84 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| A.J. Leggett | CB | South Miami Senior | Miami, FL | list | 96 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Andrus Peat | OT | Corona Del Sol | Tempe, AZ | list | 17 | 5 stars | 14 | 5 stars | 3 | 5 Star |
| Arik Armstead | OT | Pleasant Grove | Elk Grove, CA | list | 1 | 5 stars | 29 | 4 stars | 1 | 5 Star |
| Avery Young | OL | Palm Beach Gardens | Palm Beach Gardens, FL | list | N/A | N/A | 60 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Aziz Shittu | DT | Buhach Colony | Atwater, CA | list | 79 | 4 stars | 27 | 5 stars | 68 | 4 Star |
| Bralon Addison | WR | (Hightower HS) | Sugar Land, TX | list | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 89 | 4 Star |
| Brian Nance | OLB | Trinity | Euless, TX | list | 88 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| D.J. Foster | ATH | Saguaro | Scottsdale, AZ | list | N/A | N/A | 53 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Darius Hamilton | SDE | Don Bosco Prep | Ramsey, NJ | list | 19 | 5 stars | 5 | 5 stars | 24 | 5 Star |
| Davonte Neal | ATH | Chaparral | Paradise Valley, AZ | list | 86 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 80 | 4 Star |
| Devin Fuller | ATH | N Valley Reg H Old Tappan | Westwood, NJ | list | 21 | 5 stars | 34 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Dorial Green-Beckham | WR | Hillcrest | Springfield, MO | list | 2 | 5 stars | 1 | 5 stars | 2 | 5 Star |
| Eddie Goldman | DT | Friendship Collegiate Academy | Washington, DC | list | 5 | 5 stars | 2 | 5 stars | 40 | 5 Star |
| Elijah Shumate | S | Don Bosco Prep | Ramsey, NJ | list | 82 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 60 | 4 Star |
| Javonte Magee | DT | Sam Houston | San Antonio, TX | list | 35 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 85 | 4 Star |
| Jeremy Liggins | ATH | Lafayette | Oxford, MS | list | 99 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Joel Caleb | WR | Clover Hill | Midlothian, VA | list | 57 | 4 stars | 71 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Joey O'Connor | OL | Windsor | Windsor, CO | list | N/A | N/A | 87 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Jordan Diamond | OT | Simeon | Chicago, IL | list | 60 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 42 | 5 Star |
| Jordan Jenkins | WDE | Harris County | Hamilton, GA | list | 38 | 4 stars | 65 | 4 stars | 30 | 5 Star |
| Josh Clemons | OLB | Lowndes | Valdosta, GA | list | 63 | 4 stars | 19 | 5 stars | 51 | 4 Star |
| Joshua Garnett | OT | Puyallup | Puyallup, WA | list | 47 | 4 stars | 28 | 4 stars | 38 | 5 Star |
| Kwon Alexander | OLB | Oxford | Oxford, AL | list | 78 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 35 | 5 Star |
| Kyle Murphy | OT | San Clemente | San Clemente, CA | list | 7 | 5 stars | 22 | 5 stars | 18 | 5 Star |
| Leonard Williams | DE | Mainland | Daytona Beach, FL | list | N/A | N/A | 70 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Mike Davis | RB | Stephenson | Stone Mountain, GA | list | 65 | 4 stars | 95 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Nelson Agholor | ATH | Berkeley Prep | Tampa, FL | list | 28 | 4 stars | 12 | 5 stars | 25 | 5 Star |
| P.J. Williams | S | (Vanguard HS) | Ocala, FL | list | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 99 | 4 Star |
| Ronald Darby | CB | Potomac | Oxon Hill, MD | list | 64 | 4 stars | 72 | 4 stars | 13 | 5 Star |
| Stefon Diggs | ATH | Good Counsel | Olney, MD | list | 23 | 5 stars | 8 | 5 stars | 9 | 5 Star |
| Todd Gurley | RB | Tarboro | Tarboro, NC | list | 49 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Tracy Howard | CB | Miramar | Hollywood, FL | list | 45 | 4 stars | 16 | 5 stars | 43 | 5 Star |
| Wayne Morgan | CB | Erasmus Hall | Brooklyn, NY | list | 97 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Yuri Wright | CB | Don Bosco Prep | Ramsey, NJ | list | 25 | 5 stars | 57 | 4 stars | 75 | 4 Star |
| Zach Banner | OT | Lakes | Lakewood, WA | list | N/A | N/A | 40 | 4 stars | 39 | 5 Star |
| Avery Johnson | WR | Blanche Ely | Pompano Beach, FL | LSU | N/A | N/A | 75 | 4 stars | 14 | 5 Star |
| Gunner Kiel | PRO | Columbus East | Columbus, IN | LSU | 12 | 5 stars | 18 | 5 stars | 16 | 5 Star |
| Torshiro Davis | OLB | Woodlawn | Shreveport, LA | LSU | 71 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 96 | 4 Star |
| Wes Brown | RB | (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) | Olney, MD | Maryland | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 58 | 4 Star |
| Sheldon Dawson | ATH | Ridgeway | Memphis, TN | Memphis | 90 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Deon Bush | DB | Columbus | Miami, FL | Miami (FL) | N/A | N/A | 68 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Duke Johnson | APB | Norland | Miami, FL | Miami (FL) | 29 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 21 | 5 Star |
| Jelani Hamilton | DE | St. Thomas Aquinas | Fort Lauderdale, FL | Miami (FL) | N/A | N/A | 90 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Randy Johnson | RB | Miami Norland | Miami, FL | Miami (FL) | N/A | N/A | 39 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Raphael Kirby | LB | Stephenson | Stone Mountain, GA | Miami (FL) | N/A | N/A | 89 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Tyriq McCord | DE | Jefferson | Tampa, FL | Miami (FL) | N/A | N/A | 74 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Chris Wormley | SDE | Whitmer | Toledo, OH | Michigan | 58 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Erik Magnuson | OT | La Costa Canyon | Encinitas, CA | Michigan | 61 | 4 stars | 49 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| James Ross | MLB | (St. Mary Preparatory School) | Orchard Lake, MI | Michigan | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 76 | 4 Star |
| Joe Bolden | OLB | (Colerain HS) | Cincinnati, OH | Michigan | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 95 | 4 Star |
| Kyle Kalis | OT | St. Edward | Lakewood, OH | Michigan | 48 | 4 stars | 21 | 5 stars | 32 | 5 Star |
| Ondre Pipkins | DT | Park Hill | Kansas City, MO | Michigan | 91 | 4 stars | 59 | 4 stars | 100 | 4 Star |
| Tom Strobel | DE | (Mentor HS) | Mentor, OH | Michigan | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 73 | 4 Star |
| Aaron Burbridge | WR | Harrison | Farmington, MI | Michigan State | 70 | 4 stars | 100 | 4 stars | 62 | 4 Star |
| Channing Ward | WDE | Aberdeen | Aberdeen, MS | Mississippi | 41 | 4 stars | 88 | 4 stars | 41 | 5 Star |
| Quay Evans | DT | (Morton HS) | Morton, MS | Mississippi State | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 29 | 5 Star |
| Ifeadi Odenigbo | DE | (Centerville HS) | Centerville, OH | Northwestern | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 70 | 4 Star |
| Deontay Greenberry | WR | Washington Union | Fresno, CA | Notre Dame | 20 | 5 stars | 69 | 4 stars | 52 | 4 Star |
| Jarron Jones | DT | Aquinas Institute | Rochester, NY | Notre Dame | 26 | 5 stars | N/A | N/A | 56 | 4 Star |
| Keivarae Russell | APB | Mariner | Everett, WA | Notre Dame | 80 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Ronnie Stanley | N/A | (Bishop Gorman HS) | Las Vegas, NV | Notre Dame | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 78 | 4 Star |
| Sheldon Day | DT | Warren Central | Indianapolis, IN | Notre Dame | 75 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 45 | 5 Star |
| Taylor Decker | OT | (Butler HS) | Vandalia, OH | Notre Dame | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 74 | 4 Star |
| Tee Shepard | CB | Washington Union | Fresno, CA | Notre Dame | 52 | 4 stars | 82 | 4 stars | 48 | 5 Star |
| Se'von Pittman | DE | McKinley | Canton, OH | Ohio St. | N/A | N/A | 81 | 4 stars | 57 | 4 Star |
| Adolphus Washington | WDE | Taft | Cincinnati, OH | Ohio State | 22 | 5 stars | 36 | 4 stars | 15 | 5 Star |
| Brionte Dunn | RB | (GlenOak HS) | Canton, OH | Ohio State | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 26 | 5 Star |
| Tommy Schutt | DT | Glenbard West | Glen Ellyn, IL | Ohio State | 100 | 4 stars | 52 | 4 stars | 44 | 5 Star |
| Noah Spence | WDE | Bishop Mcdevitt | Harrisburg, PA | OhioState | 14 | 5 stars | 9 | 5 stars | 6 | 5 Star |
| Alex Ross | RB | Jenks Hs | Jenks, OK | Oklahoma | 30 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 93 | 4 Star |
| Derrick Woods | WR | Inglewood | Inglewood, CA | Oklahoma | N/A | N/A | 98 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Durron Neal | WR | DeSmet | Saint Louis, MO | Oklahoma | 76 | 4 stars | 47 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| John Michael McGee | OL | Texas | Texarkana, TX | Oklahoma | N/A | N/A | 91 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Taylor McNamara | TE | Westview | San Diego, CA | Oklahoma | N/A | N/A | 97 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Byron Marshall | RB | Valley Christian | San Jose, CA | Oregon | 92 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Isaac Seumalo | OG | Corvallis | Corvallis, OR | Oregon St. | 33 | 4 stars | 96 | 4 stars | 83 | 4 Star |
| Armani Reeves | CB | Catholic Memorial | West Roxbury, MA | Penn State | 59 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Eugene Lewis | WR | (Wyoming Valley West HS) | Plymouth, PA | Penn State | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 63 | 4 Star |
| Rushel Shell | RB | Hopewell | Aliquippa, PA | Pittsburgh | 54 | 4 stars | 45 | 4 stars | 17 | 5 Star |
| Chris Muller | OL | Boyertown Area Senior | Boyertown, PA | Rutgers | N/A | N/A | 79 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Brock Stadnik | OT | Western Guilford | Greensboro, NC | South Carolina | 74 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 84 | 4 Star |
| Shaq Roland | ATH | Lexington | Lexington, SC | South Carolina | 32 | 4 stars | 80 | 4 stars | 34 | 5 Star |
| Anthony Alford | QB | Petal | Petal, MS | Southern Mississippi | 69 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Alex Carter | DB | Briar Woods | Ashburn, VA | Stanford | N/A | N/A | 66 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Barry Sanders | RB | (Heritage Hall Schools) | Oklahoma City, OK | Stanford | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 53 | 4 Star |
| Noor Davis | OLB | Leesburg | Leesburg, FL | Stanford | 56 | 4 stars | 46 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Adrian Colbert | S | Mineral Wells | Mineral Wells, TX | Texas | 89 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Camrhon Hughes | OT | (Harker Heights HS) | Killeen, TX | Texas | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 72 | 4 Star |
| Cayleb Jones | WR | Austin | Austin, TX | Texas | N/A | N/A | 26 | 5 stars | 23 | 5 Star |
| Connor Brewer | PRO | Chaparral | Paradise Valley, AZ | Texas | 84 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Curtis Riser | OG | DeSoto | DeSoto, TX | Texas | 83 | 4 stars | 94 | 4 stars | 27 | 5 Star |
| Johnathan Gray | RB | Aledo | Aledo, TX | Texas | 15 | 5 stars | 6 | 5 stars | 8 | 5 Star |
| Kendall Sanders | ATH | Athens | Athens, TX | Texas | N/A | N/A | 64 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Kennedy Estelle | OT | Dawson | Pearland, TX | Texas | 68 | 4 stars | 50 | 4 stars | 49 | 5 Star |
| LaDarrell McNeil | S | Wilmer-Hutchins | Dallas, TX | Texas | 98 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Malcom Brown | DT | Brenham | Brenham, TX | Texas | 18 | 5 stars | 30 | 4 stars | 22 | 5 Star |
| Thomas Johnson | WR | Skyline | Dallas, TX | Texas | 46 | 4 stars | 32 | 4 stars | 71 | 4 Star |
| Matt Davis | QB | (Klein Forest HS) | Houston, TX | Texas A&M | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 55 | 4 Star |
| Trey Williams | APB | Dekaney | Houston, TX | Texas A&M | 24 | 5 stars | 13 | 5 stars | 10 | 5 Star |
| Dominique Wheeler | ATH | Crockett | Crockett, TX | Texas Tech | 85 | 4 stars | 77 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Michael Starts | OG | (La Vega HS) | Waco, TX | Texas Tech | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 69 | 4 Star |
| Darreus Rogers | WR | Carson Senior | Carson, CA | USC | 55 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | 87 | 4 Star |
| Jabari Ruffin | OLB | Downey | Downey, CA | USC | 81 | 4 stars | 58 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Jordan Simmons | OG | Crespi Carmelite | Encino, CA | USC | 95 | 4 stars | 25 | 5 stars | 61 | 4 Star |
| Kevon Seymour | CB | Muir | Pasadena, CA | USC | N/A | N/A | 93 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Max Tuerk | OL | (Santa Margarita Catholic HS) | Santa Margarita, CA | USC | N/A | N/A | 48 | 4 stars | 98 | 4 Star |
| Travis Wilson | PRO | San Clemente | San Clemente, CA | Utah | 77 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Brian Kimbrow | RB | Memphis East | Memphis, TN | Vanderbilt | N/A | N/A | 99 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Eli Harold | WDE | Ocean Lakes | Virginia Beach, VA | Virginia | 42 | 4 stars | 44 | 4 stars | 37 | 5 Star |
| Kwontie Moore | ILB | Norfolk Christian | Norfolk, VA | Virginia | 53 | 4 stars | 76 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Cyler Miles | QB | Mullen | Denver, CO | Washington | N/A | N/A | 54 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
| Bart Houston | QB | (De La Salle HS) | Concord, CA | Wisconsin | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 67 | 4 Star |
| Dan Voltz | OG | Barrington | Barrington, IL | Wisconsin | 34 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Vince Biegel | LB | Wisconsin Rapids Lincoln | Wisconsin Rapids, WI | Wisconsin | N/A | N/A | 92 | 4 stars | N/A | N/A |
* Edit - Corrected an error in the Rivals list and resorted by School of interest. Thanks to RickH for pointing out the error (I left off two players on the Rivals list which moved all the players below them up two spots.)
Handicapping the 2012 Recruiting Class
Coach Hoke and his staff have been very active on the recruiting trail this year and even though we've still got ten months until signing day our top prospects for the class are taking shape. I thought since many of us follow this pretty closely we might, as a group, be able to effectively handicap the candidates for the remaining spots.
It seems to me we have the following positions to fill:
QB - 1
RB - 1
FB - 0 to 1
WR - 1 to 2
TE - Devin Funchess, A.J. Williams, and 0 to 1 more
OL - Ben Braden, Caleb Stacey, and 2 to 4 more
DE - 2 to 3
DT - 2 to 3
LB - Kaleb Ringer, Royce Jenkins-Stone, and 0 to 2 more
CB - 1 to 2
S - 1 to 2
With this in mind, I've created a poll where the amateur recruiting experts on this board can vote for their best guesses. Maybe collectively we can identify our next class.
If you choose other in the poll, please identify your other player in the comments section.
Updated 2012 Recruit Offer List
[Ed-M: Bumped to diary.]
I posted this the other day and it was well received. So, in light of TomVH's news, I thought I'd share the update.
I refined the table a little bit. I removed the column that says Michigan offered since that is evident and I added a column showing Scout's current player rank.
| Targets | Ht. | Wt. | 40 | Scout Rank | Rivals 250 | Commit | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Quarterbacks | |||||||
| Zeke Pike | 6'5" | 220 | 4.7 | Dixie Heights HS, Edgewood, KY | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Gunner Kiel | 6'4" | 220 | East HS, Columbus, IN | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Bennie Coney | 6'2" | 205 | 4.8 | Plant City HS, Plant City, FL | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Maty Mauk | 6'2" | 185 | Kenton HS, Kenton, OH | 3 Star | Yes | ||
| Connor Brewer | 6'2" | 195 | 4.7 | Chapparal HS, Scottsdale, AZ | 4 Star | Yes | Texas |
| Running Backs | |||||||
| Matt Jones | 6'2" | 200 | 4.53 | Armwood HS, Seffner, FL | 4 Star | Yes | FL |
| Keith Marshall | 5'11" | 190 | 4.32 | Millbrook HS, Raleigh, NC | 5 Star | Yes | |
| Bri'Onte Dunn | 6'2" | 215 | 4.59 | Glenn Oak HS, Canton, OH | 4 Star | Yes | Ohio St. |
| Wide Receivers | |||||||
| Latroy Pittman | 6'1" | 190 | 4.7 | North Marion HS, Citra, FL | Yes | FL | |
| Stefon Diggs | 6’1" | 185 | 4.4 | Our Lady of Good Counsel, Olney, MD | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Dorial Green-Beckham | 6’6″ | 215 | 4.4 | Hillcrest HS, Springfield, MO | 5 Star | Yes | |
| Dwayne Stanford | 6'4" | 200 | 4.5 | Taft HS, Cincinnatti, OH | NR | Yes | |
| Aaron Burbridge | 6'0" | 175 | 4.35 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, MI | 3 Star | ||
| Derrick Woods | 5'11" | 180 | 4.5 | Inglewood HS, Inglewood, CA | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Deontay McManus | 6'0" | 209 | 4.5 | Dunbar HS, Baltimore, MD | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Malik Gilmore | 6'3" | 195 | 4.67 | Lakewood HS, Lakewood, CA | 3 Star | ||
| Jordan Payton | 6'2" | 199 | 4.49 | Oaks Christian High School, Westlake Village, CA | 4 Star | Yes | USC |
| Leonte Carroo | 6’1" | 205 | 4.4 | Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, NJ | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Avery Johnson | 6'2" | 180 | 4.44 | Blanche Ely HS, Pompano Beach, FL | 4 Star | Yes | LSU |
| Jody Fuller | 6'0" | 186 | 4.52 | Sun Valley HS, Monroe, NC | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Tight Ends | |||||||
| Sam Grant | 6’6″ | 230 | 4.8 | St. Edward HS, Lakewood, OH | NR | ||
| Sean Price | 6'4" | 206 | 4.9 | North Marion HS, Citra, FL | 3 Star | ||
| Devin Funchess | 6'5" | 205 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, MI | NR | |||
| Ron Thompson | 6'4" | 225 | East Detroit HS, Eastpointe, MI | NR | |||
| Taylor McNamara | 6'5" | 235 | Westview HS, San Diego, CA | 3 Star | Yes | ||
| Offensive Linemen | |||||||
| D.J. Humphries | 6’5″ | 265 | 4.9 | Mallard Creek HS, Charlotte, NC | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Jordan Diamond | 6’6″ | 289 | 5.0 | Simeon Vocational HS, Chicago, IL | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Zach Banner | 6'9 | 295 | Lakes HS, Lakewood, WA | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Dan Voltz | 6’5″ | 289 | 5.3 | Barrington HS, Barrington, IL | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Andrus Peat | 6’6″ | 270 | Corona Del Sol HS, Tempe, AZ | 5 Star | Yes | ||
| Kyle Murphy | 6’6″ | 255 | San Clemente HS, San Clemente, CA | 3 Star | Yes | ||
| Jordan Simmons | 6’5″ | 295 | 4.9 | Crespe HS, Encino, CA | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Taylor Decker | 6’8″ | 270 | 5.0 | Butler HS, Vandalia, OH | 3 Star | ||
| Mark Harrell | 6’5″ | 260 | Charlotte Catholic HS, Charlotte, NC | NR | |||
| John Theus | 6’6″ | 292 | 5.2 | Bolles HS, Jacksonville, FL | 5 Star | Yes | |
| Avery Young | 6’6″ | 273 | 4.9 | Palm Beach Gardens HS, Palm Beach Gardens, FL | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Kyle Dodson | 6’6″ | 315 | Cleveland Heights HS, Cleveland, OH | NR | |||
| Paul Thurston | 6’5″ | 265 | 5.1 | Arvada West HS, Arvada, CO | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Defensive Ends | |||||||
| Chris Wormley | 6’4″ | 255 | Whitmer HS, Toledo, OH | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Ifeadi Odenigbo | 6’4″ | 210 | 4.44 | Centerville HS, Centerville, OH | NR | ||
| Pharaoh Brown | 6’6″ | 220 | 4.7 | Brush HS, Lyndhurst, OH | NR | ||
| Tom Strobel | 6'6" | 240 | 4.9 | Mentor HS, Concord, OH | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Mario Ojemudia | 6'3" | 215 | 4.65 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, MI | NR | ||
| Se'Von Pittman | 6’5″ | 235 | 4.65 | McKinley HS Canton, OH | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Adolphus Washington | 6’6″ | 240 | 4.7 | Taft HS, Cincinnatti, OH | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Jordan Jenkins | 6’3″ | 225 | 4.69 | Harris County HS, Hamilton, GA | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Defensive Tackles | |||||||
| Tommy Schutt | 6’3″ | 301 | Glenbard West HS, Glen Ellyn, IL | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Eddie Goldman | 6'4" | 307 | Friendship Collegiate Academy, Washington, DC | 5 Star | Yes | ||
| Vincent Valentine | 6'3" | 300 | Edwardsville HS, Edwardsville, IL | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Sheldon Day | 6'2" | 268 | Warren Central HS, Indianapolis, IN | 3 Star | |||
| Danny O’Brien | 6’4″ | 255 | 5.1 | Powers Catholic HS, Flint, MI | 4 Star | Yes | |
| Greg Kuhar | 6'3" | 265 | St. Edward HS, Concord Township, OH | NR | |||
| Matthew Godin | 6'5" | 253 | 5.03 | Detroit Catholic Central, Novi, MI | 3 Star | ||
| Linebackers | |||||||
| Deaysean Rippy | 6’2″ | 198 | Sto-Rox HS, McKees Rocks, PA | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| James Ross | 6’0″ | 203 | Orchard Lake St. Mary’s HS, Orchard Lake, MI | 4 Star | Yes | ||
| Royce Jenkins-Stone | 6’2″ | 215 | Cass Tech HS, Detroit, MI | 3 Star | Yes | ||
| Vince Biegel | 6'3" | 210 | 4.53 | Wisconsin Rapids Lincoln HS, Wisconsin Rapids, WI | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Kaleb Ringer | 6'1" | 225 | 4.45 | Northmont HS, Clayton, OH | 3 Star | ||
| Peter Jinkens | 6'1" | 208 | 4.45 | Skyline HS, Dallas, TX | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Camren Williams | 6'2" | 200 | 4.58 | Catholic Memorial HS, West Roxbury, MA | 3 Star | ||
| Jeremiah Tshimanga | 6'3" | 226 | Richland HS, N. Richland Hills, TX | 3 Star | Yes | ||
| Cornerbacks | |||||||
| Terry Richardson | 5'9" | 160 | 4.5 | Cass Tech HS, Detroit, MI | 3 Star | Yes | |
| Armani Reeves | 5'11" | 185 | 4.4 | Catholic Memorial HS, West Roxbury, MA | 4 Star | ||
| Safeties | |||||||
| Elijah Shumate | 6'1" | 205 | 4.5 | Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, NJ | 4 Star | Yes | |
| D.J. Singleton | 6'3" | 195 | 4.5 | St. Peters Preparatory School, Jersey City, NJ | 3 Star | ||
| Deon Bush | 6'1" | 177 | 4.44 | Columbus HS, Miami, FL | NR | Yes | |
| Jarrod Wilson | 6’2″ | 190 | 4.5 | Buchtel HS, Akron, OH | NR | ||
We are up to 67 offers.
- 5 QBs
- 3 RBs
- 12 WRs
- 5 TEs
- 13 OL
- 8 DEs
- 7 DTs
- 8 LBs
- 2 CBs
- 4 Ss
BTW - I mentioned this in another thread, Scout currently has ranked 12 5 Stars and only 89 4 Stars. They will end up with 50 5 Stars and 250 4 Stars.
Roster Balance and the 2012 Class
Frequently posters lament the position breakdown of our team. We hear we have too many slots, or not enough O-linemen; we hear that the defense is under-recruited or that we should have signed a particular player last year since we’re recruiting that position this year (Devin Lucien).
Inspired by the various posts debating the makeup of this team, I decided to analyze what a balanced roster would look like, how our current roster is allocated, and what the future may hold.
As we all know, the NCAA allows division I football teams to provide scholarships to a total of 85 players each year (while most players keep their scholarships for at least 4 years they are technically all one year scholarships). Despite what the SEC may do with their scholarships, Michigan plays by the rules so 85 scholarships works out to 5 classes of 17 players in each class (5 classes assumes everyone takes a redshirt year). A perfectly balanced roster would have no attrition; all players would stay five years; and 17 RS seniors would be replaced by 17 recruits each season. Here’s what a roster like that would look like:
| SR | JR | SO | FR | RS | Recruit | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TOTAL | 85 (17) | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 |
| OFFENSE | |||||||
| QB | 4 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | |
| RB | 6 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | ||||||
| FB | 1 | x | |||||
| WR | 10 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | x | x | x | ||
| TE | 5 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| OL | 15 (3) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | x | x | x | ||
| x | x | x | x | x | x | ||
| DEFENSE | |||||||
| DT | 8 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | x | ||||
| DE | 8 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | |||||
| LB | 8 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | |||||
| S | 8 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | |||||
| CB | 9 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| x | x | x | x | x | |||
| SPECIAL TEAMS | |||||||
| K | 1 | x | |||||
| P | 1 | x | |||||
| LS | 1 | x | |||||
| TOTAL | 85 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 |
| SR | JR | SO | FR | RS | Recruit | ||
While we could debate the numbers by position group, this gives a pretty good blueprint for an ideal roster. A team like this would rely primarily on upper classmen. The structure would eliminate the need for desperation recruiting where the makeup of a position group is so dire that the coaches are desperate to land freshman to fill in the two-deep. Obviously player attrition would make managing a roster so precisely impossible, however that doesn’t mean it’s not something quality programs should strive for. Realistically, we could probably expect to lose anywhere from three to five players each season to the draft, injury, ineligibility, or home sickness; that would mean our recruiting classes would be 20 to 22 with 17 being redshirted and the remaining recruits added to the active roster. It is well known that Wisconsin and Iowa start a high percentage of fifth year players each season, which may account for their quality play despite lackluster recruiting.
Let’s take a look at our current roster compared to the “ideal” roster:
| Ideal | Actual | |||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SR | JR | SO | FR | RS | Recruit | '11 | '12 | '13 | '14 | '15 | Recruit* | |||||
| TOTAL | 85 (17) | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | TOTAL | 83 | 15 | 19 | 20 | 11 | 19 | 20 | |
| OFFENSE | OFFENSE | |||||||||||||||
| QB | 4 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | QB | 3 | x | x | x | x | ||||
| RB | 6 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x | RB | 8 | x | x | x | x | |||
| x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||||
| FB | 1 | x | x | |||||||||||||
| WR | 10 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x | FB | ||||||||
| x | x | x | x | x | x | WR | 13 | x | x | x | x | x | ||||
| TE | 5 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||
| OL | 15 (3) | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | |||||
| x | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||
| x | x | x | x | x | x | TE | 3 | x | x | x | x | |||||
| DEFENSE | x | |||||||||||||||
| DT | 8 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x | OL | 11 | x | x | x | x | x | x | |
| x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||
| DE | 8 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | |||||||
| x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||||
| LB | 8 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||
| x | x | x | DEFENSE | |||||||||||||
| S | 8 (1) | x | x | x | x | x | x | DT | 5 | x | x | x | x | x | ||
| x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||||
| CB | 9 (2) | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||
| x | x | x | x | x | DE | 9 | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||
| SPECIAL TEAMS | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||||
| K | 1 | x | x | |||||||||||||
| P | 1 | x | LB | 11 | x | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||
| LS | 1 | x | x | x | x | x | x | |||||||||
| TOTAL | 85 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | x | ||||||||
| SR | JR | SO | FR | RS | Recruit | x | ||||||||||
| S | 7 | x | x | x | x | |||||||||||
| x | x | |||||||||||||||
| x | ||||||||||||||||
| x | ||||||||||||||||
| x | ||||||||||||||||
| CB | 10 | x | x | x | x | x | ||||||||||
| x | x | |||||||||||||||
| x | x | |||||||||||||||
| x | ||||||||||||||||
| x | ||||||||||||||||
| SPECIAL TEAMS | ||||||||||||||||
| K | 2 | x | x | |||||||||||||
| P | 1 | x | ||||||||||||||
| LS | 1 | x | ||||||||||||||
| TOTAL | 83 | 15 | 19 | 20 | 11 | 19 | 20 | |||||||||
| '11 | '12 | '13 | '14 | '15 | Recruit* | |||||||||||
*Recruits are projected for this class
As you can see, the team lacks consistency from season-to-season. We have an abundance of WRs, a dearth of O-linemen and D-tackles, and a cluster of safeties all in one season. I suspect that over the next couple of seasons Coach Hoke will try to remedy this by balancing recruiting the way I described above. For some insight into the coach’s thinking, here’s a look at our current offers and the way I suspect the class will break down:
| Targets | Offer | Rivals 250 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Quarterbacks | ||||||
| Zeke Pike | 6'5" | 220 | 4.7 | Dixie Heights HS, Edgewood, Kentucky | Yes | Yes |
| Gunner Kiel | 6'4" | 220 | N/A | East HS, Columbus, Indiana | Yes | Yes |
| Bennie Coney | 6'2" | 205 | 4.8 | Plant City HS, Plant City, Florida | Yes | Yes |
| Maty Mauk | 6'2" | 185 | Kenton HS, Kenton, Ohio | Yes | Yes | |
| Running Backs | ||||||
| Matt Jones | 6'2" | 200 | 4.53 | Armwood HS, Seffner, Florida | Yes | Yes |
| Wide Receivers | ||||||
| Stefon Diggs | 6’1″ | 185 | 4.4 | Our Lady of Good Counsel, Olney, Maryland | Yes | Yes |
| Dorial Green-Beckham | 6’6″ | 215 | 4.4 | Hillcrest HS, Springfield, Missouri | Yes | Yes |
| Dwayne Stanford | 6'4" | 200 | 4.5 | Taft HS, Cincinnatti, Ohio | Yes | Yes |
| Aaron Burbridge | 6'0" | 175 | 4.35 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, Michigan | Yes | |
| Derrick Woods | 5'11" | 180 | 4.5 | Inglewood HS, Inglewood, California | Yes | Yes |
| Deontay McManus | 6'0" | 209 | 4.5 | Dunbar HS, Baltimore, Maryland | Yes | Yes |
| Tight Ends | ||||||
| Sam Grant | 6’6″ | 230 | 4.8 | St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio | Yes | |
| Sean Price | 6'4" | 206 | 4.9 | North Marion HS, Citra, Florida | Yes | |
| Devin Funchess | 6'5" | 205 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, Michigan | Yes | ||
| Ron Thompson | 6'4" | 225 | East Detroit HS, Eastpointe, Michigan | Yes | ||
| Taylor McNamara | 6'5" | 235 | Westview HS, San Diego, California | Yes | Yes | |
| Offensive Linemen | ||||||
| D.J. Humphries | 6’5″ | 265 | 4.9 | Mallard Creek HS, Charlotte, North Carolina | Yes | Yes |
| Jordan Diamond | 6’6″ | 289 | 5.0 | Simeon Vocational HS, Chicago, Illinois | Yes | Yes |
| Zach Banner | 6'9 | 295 | Lakes HS, Lakewood, Washington | Yes | Yes | |
| Dan Voltz | 6’5″ | 289 | 5.3 | Barrington HS, Barrington, Illinois | Yes | Yes |
| Defensive Ends | ||||||
| Chris Wormley | 6’4″ | 255 | Whitmer HS, Toledo, Ohio | Yes | Yes | |
| Ifeadi Odenigbo | 6’4″ | 210 | 4.44 | Centerville HS, Centerville, Ohio | Yes | |
| Pharaoh Brown | 6’6″ | 220 | 4.7 | Brush HS, Lyndhurst, Ohio | Yes | |
| Tom Strobel | 6'6" | 240 | 4.9 | Mentor HS, Concord, Ohio | Yes | Yes |
| Mario Ojemudia | 6'3" | 215 | 4.65 | Farmington Harrison HS, Farmington Hills, Michigan | Yes | |
| Defensive Tackles | ||||||
| Tommy Schutt | 6’3″ | 301 | Glenbard West HS, Glen Ellyn, Illinois | Yes | Yes | |
| Eddie Goldman | 6'4" | 307 | Friendship Collegiate Academy, Washington, D.C. | Yes | Yes | |
| Vincent Valentine | 6'3" | 300 | Edwardsville HS, Edwardsville, Illinois | Yes | Yes | |
| Sheldon Day | 6'2" | 268 | Warren Central HS, Indianapolis, Indiana | Yes | ||
| Danny O’Brien | 6’4″ | 255 | 5.1 | Flint (MI) Powers Catholic | Yes | Yes |
| Greg Kuhar | 6'3" | 265 | St. Edward HS, Concord Township, Ohio | Yes | ||
| Linebackers | ||||||
| Deaysean Rippy | 6’2″ | 198 | Sto-Rox HS, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania | Yes | Yes | |
| James Ross | 6’0″ | 203 | Orchard Lake St. Mary’s HS, Orchard Lake, Michigan | Yes | Yes | |
| Royce Jenkins-Stone | 6’2″ | 215 | Cass Tech HS, Detroit, Michigan | Yes | Yes | |
| Vince Biegel | 6'3" | 210 | 4.53 | Wisconsin Rapids Lincoln HS, Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin | Yes | Yes |
| Cornerbacks | ||||||
| Terry Richardson | 5'9" | 160 | 4.5 | Cass Tech HS, Detroit, Michigan | Yes | Yes |
| Safeties | ||||||
| Elijah Shumate | 6'1" | 205 | 4.5 | Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, New Jersey | Yes | Yes |
| D.J. Singleton | 6'3" | 195 | 4.5 | St. Peters Preparatory School, Jersey City, New Jersey | Yes | |
| OFFENSE | DEFENSE | SPECIAL TEAMS | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| QB | x | DT | x | K | |
| RB | x | P | |||
| FB | x | LS | |||
| WR | x | DE | x | TOTAL | 20 |
| x | x | Recruits | |||
| TE | x | LB | x | ||
| x | x | ||||
| OL | x | S | x | ||
| x | x | ||||
| x | CB | x | |||
| x | |||||
| x | |||||
Currently we have made 37 offers, and we’ll probably make another 50 to 60 between now and signing day. Based on what TomVH told us about signing percentages and our expectations for some of the players listed above, we can probably expect to sign around 12 or so of the players above and eight from future offers. It will be interesting to see how close this projection will be. It would be nice to return to the days when our teams didn’t rely on underclassmen too much. Hopefully, roster management and recruiting will be some of Hoke’s strengths.
How the 2010 NFL Draft will transform the Big Ten - Part II
Many prognosticators suggested that this year's draft would set a record for the most juniors to leave early. Some said that as many as 75 underclassmen would put their names in for draft consideration. It was a record-tying year for early entrants, but not the mass exodus that many predicted. 53 underclassmen declared that they would be available for draft consideration by NFL teams; tying the previous high set in 2008 and exceeding the 46 that declared last year.
As I discussed in my earlier diary, the reasons this draft inspired so many players to consider early entry were all related to the expiring labor agreement between NFL players and owners, and the chances of a lockout in 2011. Changes in the new contract might limit both player rookie earnings and prospects for free agency, so many agents were encouraging players to take a shot now.
It sounds like the NFL went out of their way to discourage underclassmen from leaving early.
"There will be no change in our current [rookie pool] system, at least until 2011," Goodell told ESPN on Saturday. "I've explained that to some college head coaches, athletic directors and league commissioners. Any underclassman who is hearing differently is probably hearing it from an agent or from another source who is misinformed." Source - ESPN
Players who submitted their paperwork and did not receive a grade within the first three rounds, were not informed of an official grade. Instead, they were told that they did not receive a grade within the first three rounds. As far as we know, in past years, players were told what round they were projected to get drafted in by the NFL Advisory Committee, even if it was a grade later than round three. Source - NFL Draft Bible
Roger Goodell's assertion that there won't be any changes to the rookie system until at after 2011 is probably true according to the Players Association. . . since they think that season will be locked out.
Union sources believe the likelihood of a rookie hard cap being in place by 2011 is remote because, as Smith inferred again, management is preparing for a lockout that season. Source - ESPN
So what effect will early entry have on college football? Here's a list of players that have declared (I included the Scout star ranking when they left high school or junior college):
| POS | Player | Team | Status | Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| QB | Jimmy Clausen | Notre Dame | Declared | 5 star |
| QB | Jevan Snead | Mississippi | Declared | 4 star |
| QB | Sam Bradford | Oklahoma | Declared | 4 star |
| RB | Joe McKnight | Southern California | Declared | 5 star |
| RB | Jonathan Dwyer | Georgia Tech | Declared | 4 star |
| RB | Jahvid Best | California | Declared | 4 star |
| RB | Toby Gerhart | Stanford | Declared | 3 star |
| RB | Shawnbrey McNeil | SMU | Declared | 3 star |
| RB | Darius Marshall | Marshall | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Arrelious Benn | Illinois | Declared | 5 star |
| WR | Chris Bell | Norfolk State | Declared | 5 star |
| WR | Dez Bryant | Oklahoma State | Declared | 4 star |
| WR | Damian Williams | Southern California | Declared | 4 star |
| WR | Golden Tate | Notre Dame | Declared | 4 star |
| WR | Demaryius Thomas | Georgia Tech | Declared | 3 star |
| WR | Dezmon Briscoe | Kansas | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Mico McSwain | North Alabama | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Mike Williams | Syracuse | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Carlton Mitchell | USF | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Antonio Brown | Central Michigan | Declared | 1 star |
| TE | Aaron Hernandez | Florida | Declared | 5 star |
| TE | Jermaine Gresham | Oklahoma | Declared | 4 star |
| TE | Rob Gronkowski | Arizona | Declared | 4 star |
| OT | Anthony Davis | Rutgers | Declared | 5 star |
| OT | Brian Bulaga | Iowa | Declared | 4 star |
| OT | Bruce Campbell | Maryland | Declared | 4 star |
| OL | Maurkice Pouncey | Florida | Declared | 4 star |
| DE | Jason Pierre-Paul | South Florida | Declared | 5 star JC |
| DE | Carlos Dunlap | Florida | Declared | 5 star |
| DE | Everson Griffen | Southern California | Declared | 5 star |
| DE | Clifton Geathers | South Carolina | Declared | 4 star |
| DE | Thaddeus Gibson | Ohio State | Declared | 4 star |
| DE | Derrick Morgan | Georgia Tech | Declared | 4 star |
| DE | Kevin Basped | Nevada | Declared | 2 star |
| DT | Gerald McCoy | Oklahoma | Declared | 5 star |
| DT | Brian Price | UCLA | Declared | 5 star |
| DT | Abe Koroma | Western Illinois | Declared | 3 star |
| ILB | Rolando McClain | Alabama | Declared | 4 star |
| OLB | Jason Worilds | Virginia Tech | Declared | 4 star |
| OLB | Rennie Curran | Georgia | Declared | 4 star |
| OLB | Navorro Bowman | Penn State | Declared | 4 star |
| S | Chad Jones | LSU | Declared | 5 star |
| S | Eric Berry | Tennessee | Declared | 5 star |
| S | Major Wright | Florida | Declared | 5 star |
| S | Earl Thomas | Texas | Declared | 4 star |
| S | Reshad Jones | Georgia | Declared | 4 star |
| S | Morgan Burnett | Georgia Tech | Declared | 4 star |
| CB | Donovan Warren | Michigan | Declared | 5 star |
| CB | Joe Haden | Florida | Declared | 4 star |
| CB | Dominique Franks | Oklahoma | Declared | 4 star |
| CB | Kareem Jackson | Alabama | Declared | 3 star |
| CB | Amari Spievey | Iowa | Declared | 2 star |
You'll notice that the list is made up of mostly 4 and 5 star players with an abundance of WRs and DEs. Overall it's hard to say that the departures of these players will have a major impact on next season in college football.
The Big Ten only ended up losing six players. So what kind of impact will departing players (including seniors) have on the Big Ten?
| Illinois | Indiana | Iowa | Michigan | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| QB | Juice Williams | |||
| RB | Daniel Dufrene* | Demetrius McCray* | Brandon Minor | |
| RB | Bryan Payton* | Carlos Brown* | ||
| WR | Arrelious Benn** | Trey Stross | Greg Matthews | |
| WR | Chris Duvalt | LaTerryal Savoy* | ||
| WR | Jarred Fayson | |||
| TE | Michael Hoomanawanui | Troy Wagner | Tony Moeaki | |
| TE | Brian Zematis | |||
| OT | Rodger Saffold | Kyle Calloway | Mark Ortmann | |
| OT | Bryan Bulaga** | |||
| OT | ||||
| OT | ||||
| OG | Jon Asamoah | Pete Saxon | Andy Kuempel* | David Moosman |
| OG | Mike Reiter* | Dace Richardson | ||
| OG | Dan Doering* | |||
| C | Eric Block | Rafael Eubanks | ||
| C | ||||
| DE | Antonio James | Greg Middleton | Chad Geary* | Brandon Graham |
| DE | Doug Pilcher | Jammie Kirlew | Adam Patterson* | |
| DE | ||||
| DT | Rahkeem Smith* | Travis Meade* | ||
| DT | Sirod Williams | |||
| DT | ||||
| LB | Will Patterson | A.J. Edds | ||
| LB | Justin Carrington* | Pat Angerer | ||
| LB | Matt Mayberry | |||
| LB | ||||
| CB | Dere Hicks | Amari Spievey** | Donovan Warren** | |
| CB | ||||
| CB | ||||
| S | Donsay Hardeman | Austin Thomas | Steve Brown | |
| S | Collin Taylor* | |||
| S | Nick Polk | |||
| S | Matt Kurz* | |||
| K | Jason Olesnavage | |||
| P | Anthony Santella | Zolton Mesko | ||
| Total | 15 | 16 | 13 | 12 |
| Michigan State | Minnesota | Northwestern | Ohio State | |
| QB | Mike Kafka | |||
| RB | ||||
| RB | ||||
| WR | Blair White | Ben Kuznia* | Andrew Brewer | Ray Small* |
| WR | Kevin Frymire | |||
| WR | ||||
| TE | Nick Tow-Arnett | Jake Ballard | ||
| TE | ||||
| OT | Rocco Cironi | Matt Stommes* | Kurt Mattes* | Jim Cordle |
| OT | Mike Schmeding* | |||
| OT | ||||
| OT | ||||
| OG | Brendon Moss | Desmond Taylor* | ||
| OG | ||||
| OG | ||||
| C | Joel Nitchman | Andrew Moses* | ||
| C | John Stipek* | |||
| DE | Trevor Anderson | Cedric McKinley | Corey Wootton | Thaddeus Gibson** |
| DE | Colin Neely | Barrett Moen | Lawrence Wilson* | |
| DE | Derrick Onwuachi* | |||
| DT | Michael Jordan* | Eric Small | Adam Hahn | Todd Denlinger |
| DT | Garrett Brown | Marshall Thomas* | Doug Worthington | |
| DT | Rob Rose | |||
| LB | Brandon Denson | Simoni Lawrence | Austin Spitler | |
| LB | | Rex Sharpe* | ||
| LB | Adam Decker* | Nate Triplett | ||
| LB | Lee Campbell | |||
| CB | Jeremy Ware | Traye Simmons | Sherrick McManis | Andre Amos* |
| CB | Ross Weaver* | Marcus Sherels | ||
| CB | ||||
| S | K. Davis-Clark* | Brad Phillips | Kurt Coleman | |
| S | Ashton Henderson* | Brendan Smith | Anderson Russell | |
| S | Dan Fortener | |||
| S | ||||
| K | Brett Swenson | |||
| P | Blake Haudan | Jon Thoma | ||
| Total | 17 | 15 | 11 | 14 |
| Penn State | Purdue | Wisconsin | ||
| QB | Daryll Clark | Joey Elliott | ||
| RB | Jaycen Taylor* | |||
| RB | Garrett Graham | |||
| WR | Patrick Mauti* | Royce Adams* | ||
| WR | Aaron Valentin | |||
| WR | ||||
| TE | Mickey Shuler | Mickey Turner | ||
| TE | Andrew Quarless* | |||
| OT | Dennis Landolt | Zach Jones | ||
| OT | Ako Poti* | |||
| OT | Nerraw McCormack* | |||
| OT | ||||
| OG | Zach Reckman | |||
| OG | ||||
| OG | ||||
| C | Doug Klopacz* | Jared Zwilling | ||
| C | ||||
| DE | Jerome Hayes | Keyon Brown* | O'Brien Schofield | |
| DE | Tom Golarz* | |||
| DE | ||||
| DT | Jared Odrick | Mike Neal | Daniel Moore | |
| DT | Dan Cascone* | |||
| DT | Jeff Stehle | |||
| LB | Sean Lee | Jason Werner | Jaevery McFadden | |
| LB | Navorro Bowman** | |||
| LB | Josh Hull | |||
| LB | ||||
| CB | Knowledge Timmons | Brandon King | ||
| CB | A.J. Wallace* | David Pender | ||
| CB | S. McCullough* | |||
| S | Torri Williams | Chris Maragos | ||
| S | Dwight Mclean | |||
| S | ||||
| S | ||||
| K | ||||
| P | Jeremy Boone | Chris Summers | ||
| Total | 17 | 15 | 8 |
* indicates non-starting contributor
** indicates early entrant
Source: www.rivals.com, www.foxsports.com, www.scout.com
Since the conference didn't lose as many players as my original diary suggested, the turnover won't have the repercussions I had hoped. Unfortunately many of the stars decided to return to school, including most of the Ohio State defense and offensive stars like John Clay from Wisconsin and Evan Royster from Penn State.
On the plus side the Big Ten should once again be strong out of conference, but it will make for a challenging season for our Wolverines.
Go Blue!!
How the 2010 NFL Draft will transform the Big Ten
The reasons this coming draft is inspiring so many to try to grab the brass ring are all the result of the expiring labor agreement between NFL Players and owners. First, it is likely that the next agreement will include a slotted rookie draft with lower starting salaries, like the NBA currently has, so some players may be entering during an uncapped year to maximize the pay in their first contract. Second, the next contract may extend the period before players can become unrestricted free agents, so they would like to get in now to start their counter toward that time. Finally, the number one reason college underclassmen are being advised to enter now is the potential lockout in 2011, players getting in now can ensure themselves a payday rather than risking a year without a season.
The prospects for a lockout are very real. The NFL Players Association is desperately trying to get the owners to negotiate a new contract but the owners are unwilling to meet. The owners are looking forward to the uncapped year, not so that they can spend like crazy, instead it provides them an opportunity to dump bad contracts without penalty while locking up their young stars. While many current NFL players have been looking forward to the uncapped year as a windfall, the owners included language in the contract that adds an extra transition tag to protect a teams best players and extends the unrestricted free agency period from four years to six for this coming season; locking up many of the league's best young stars when they expected their freedom.
Since we all know that most of college football's top players are merely using the NCAA as a launching pad to the NFL, they don't need too much encouragement to take a shot at the league. Here's a list of players that have already declared or indicated that they are strongly considering it (I included the Scout star ranking when they left high school or junior college):
| Pos | Player | Team | Status | Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| QB | Sam Bradford | Oklahoma | Declared | 4 star |
| QB | Jevan Snead | Mississippi | 4 star | |
| QB | Ryan Mallett | Arkansas | 5 star | |
| QB | Jimmy Clausen | Notre Dame | Declared | 5 star |
| QB | Case Keenum | Houston | 2 star | |
| RB | Jonathan Dwyer | Georgia Tech | 4 star | |
| RB | Evan Royster | Penn State | Declared | 3 star |
| RB | John Clay | Wisconsin | 4 star | |
| RB | Brandon Saine | Ohio State | 4 star | |
| RB | Toby Gerhart | Stanford | 3 star | |
| RB | Jahvid Best | California | Declared | 4 star |
| RB | DeMarco Murray | Oklahoma | 5 star | |
| RB | Harvey Unga | BYU | 2 star | |
| RB | Joe McKnight | Southern California | 5 star | |
| RB | Darren Evans | Virginia Tech | 4 star | |
| RB | Delone Carter | Syracuse | 4 star | |
| RB | Ryan Mathews | Fresno State | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Dez Bryant | Oklahoma State | Declared | 4 star |
| WR | Arrelious Benn | Illinois | Declared | 5 star |
| WR | Damian Williams | Southern California | 4 star | |
| WR | Dezmon Briscoe | Kansas | Declared | 2 star |
| WR | Demaryius Thomas | Georgia Tech | 3 star | |
| WR | Golden Tate | Notre Dame | Declared | 4 star |
| WR | Vincent Brown | San Diego State | 3 star | |
| WR | Chris Bell | Norfolk State | 5 star | |
| WR | Dane Sanzenbacher | Ohio State | 4 star | |
| WR | Mike Williams | Syracuse | Declared | 2 star |
| TE | Rob Gronkowski | Arizona | 4 star | |
| TE | Aaron Hernandez | Florida | 5 star | |
| TE | Weslye Saunders | South Carolina | 4 star | |
| TE | Jermaine Gresham | Oklahoma | Declared | 4 star |
| OT | Brian Bulaga | Iowa | 4 star | |
| OT | Anthony Davis | Rutgers | Declared | 5 star |
| OT | Gabe Carimi | Wisconsin | 3 star | |
| OT | Jason Pinkston | Pittsburgh | 4 star | |
| OT | Bruce Campbell | Maryland | Declared | 4 star |
| OL | Bryant Browning | Ohio State | 3 star | |
| OL | Justin Boren | Ohio State | 5 star | |
| OL | Maurkice Pouncey | Florida | 4 star | |
| OL | Mike Pouncey | Florida | 4 star | |
| DE | Carlos Dunlap | Florida | 5 star | |
| DE | Cliff Matthews | South Carolina | 5 star | |
| DE | Cameron Heyward | Ohio State | 4 star | |
| DE | Derrick Morgan | Georgia Tech | 4 star | |
| DE | Everson Griffen | Southern California | Declared | 5 star |
| DE | Greg Romeus | Pittsburgh | 2 star | |
| DE | Jason Pierre-Paul | South Florida | 5 star JC | |
| DE | Thaddeus Gibson | Ohio State | 4 star | |
| DE | Adrian Clayborn | Iowa | 4 star | |
| DE | Justin Trattou | Florida | 5 star | |
| DE | Ryan Kerrigan | Purdue | 3 star | |
| DE | Kevin Basped | Nevada | 2 star | |
| DE | Dontay Moch | Nevada | 2 star | |
| DT | Gerald McCoy | Oklahoma | Declared | 5 star |
| DT | Brian Price | UCLA | Declared | 5 star |
| DT | Marvin Austin | North Carolina | 5 star | |
| DT | Allen Bailey | Miami (Fla.) | 5 star | |
| DT | Stephen Paea | Oregon State | 3 star JC | |
| DT | Abe Koroma | Western Illinois | Declared | 3 star |
| ILB | Rolando McClain | Alabama | 4 star | |
| ILB | Scott Lutrus | UConn | 2 star | |
| ILB | Quan Sturdivant | North Carolina | 4 star | |
| ILB | Travis Lewis | Oklahoma | 4 star | |
| OLB | Greg Jones | Michigan State | 3 star | |
| OLB | Navorro Bowman | Penn State | Declared | 4 star |
| OLB | Rennie Curran | Georgia | 4 star | |
| OLB | Bruce Carter | North Carolina | 3 star | |
| OLB | Von Miller | Texas A&M | 4 star | |
| CB | Joe Haden | Florida | Declared | 4 star |
| CB | DeAndre Morgan | North Carolina State | 3 star | |
| CB | Ras-I Dowling | Virginia | 2 star | |
| CB | Donovan Warren | Michigan | Declared | 5 star |
| CB | Kareem Jackson | Alabama | 3 star | |
| CB | Dominique Franks | Oklahoma | 4 star | |
| CB | Amari Spievey | Iowa | 2 star | |
| CB | Johnny Patrick | Louisville | 3 star | |
| CB | Chimdi Chekwa | Ohio State | 2 star | |
| CB | Jimmy Smith | Colorado | 3 star | |
| CB | Kendric Burney | North Carolina | 3 star | |
| CB | Devon Torrence | Ohio State | 4 star | |
| S | Eric Berry | Tennessee | Declared | 5 star |
| S | Morgan Burnett | Georgia Tech | 4 star | |
| S | Reshad Jones | Georgia | 4 star | |
| S | Major Wright | Florida | 5 star | |
| S | Chad Jones | LSU | 5 star | |
| S | Deunta Williams | North Carolina | 4 star | |
| S | Jermale Hines | Ohio State | 4 star |
As you can see, of the 87 players on the list 21 have already made their intentions known. The 2009 draft had 46 early entrants, but only nine had declared before January 1.
So how will this impact the Big Ten?
There are 20 Big Ten players on the list and four of those have already declared. Nine of the players play for Ohio State. It is unlikely that all of the players above will enter the draft, however it is likely many will. If you combine this group with graduating seniors the power in the Big Ten could change dramatically. Here is a list of contributors that will be gone from each team in the Big Ten:
| Illinois | Indiana | Iowa | Michigan | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| QB | Juice Williams | |||
| RB | Daniel Dufrene* | Demetrius McCray* | Brandon Minor | |
| RB | Bryan Payton* | Carlos Brown* | ||
| WR | Arrelious Benn** | Trey Stross | Greg Matthews | |
| WR | Chris Duvalt | LaTerryal Savoy* | ||
| WR | Jarred Fayson | |||
| TE | Michael Hoomanawanui | Troy Wagner | Tony Moeaki | |
| TE | Brian Zematis | |||
| OT | Rodger Saffold | Kyle Calloway | Mark Ortmann | |
| OT | Bryan Bulaga** | |||
| OT | ||||
| OT | ||||
| OG | Jon Asamoah | Pete Saxon | Andy Kuempel* | David Moosman |
| OG | Mike Reiter* | Dace Richardson | ||
| OG | Dan Doering* | |||
| C | Eric Block | Rafael Eubanks | ||
| C | ||||
| DE | Antonio James | Greg Middleton | Chad Geary* | Brandon Graham |
| DE | Doug Pilcher | Jammie Kirlew | Adrian Clayborn** | Adam Patterson* |
| DE | ||||
| DT | Rahkeem Smith* | Travis Meade* | ||
| DT | Sirod Williams | |||
| DT | ||||
| LB | Will Patterson | A.J. Edds | ||
| LB | Justin Carrington* | Pat Angerer | ||
| LB | Matt Mayberry | |||
| LB | ||||
| CB | Dere Hicks | Amari Spievey** | Donovan Warren** | |
| CB | ||||
| CB | ||||
| S | Donsay Hardeman | Austin Thomas | Steve Brown | |
| S | Collin Taylor* | |||
| S | Nick Polk | |||
| S | Matt Kurz* | |||
| K | Jason Olesnavage | |||
| P | Anthony Santella | Zolton Mesko | ||
| Total | 15 | 16 | 14 | 12 |
| Michigan State | Minnesota | Northwestern | Ohio State | |
| QB | Mike Kafka | |||
| RB | Brandon Saine** | |||
| RB | ||||
| WR | Blair White | Ben Kuznia* | Andrew Brewer | Ray Small* |
| WR | Kevin Frymire | Dane Sanzenbacher** | ||
| WR | ||||
| TE | Nick Tow-Arnett | Jake Ballard | ||
| TE | ||||
| OT | Rocco Cironi | Matt Stommes* | Kurt Mattes* | Jim Cordle |
| OT | Mike Schmeding* | |||
| OT | ||||
| OT | ||||
| OG | Brendon Moss | Desmond Taylor* | Bryant Browning** | |
| OG | Justin Boren** | |||
| OG | ||||
| C | Joel Nitchman | Andrew Moses* | ||
| C | John Stipek* | |||
| DE | Trevor Anderson | Cedric McKinley | Corey Wootton | Cameron Heyward** |
| DE | Colin Neely | Barrett Moen | Thaddeus Gibson** | |
| DE | Derrick Onwuachi* | Lawrence Wilson* | ||
| DT | Michael Jordan* | Eric Small | Adam Hahn | Todd Denlinger |
| DT | Garrett Brown | Marshall Thomas* | Doug Worthington | |
| DT | Rob Rose | |||
| LB | Brandon Denson | Simoni Lawrence | Austin Spitler | |
| LB | Greg Jones** | Rex Sharpe* | ||
| LB | Adam Decker* | Nate Triplett | ||
| LB | Lee Campbell | |||
| CB | Jeremy Ware | Traye Simmons | Sherrick McManis | Chimdi Chekwa** |
| CB | Ross Weaver* | Marcus Sherels | Devon Torrence** | |
| CB | Andre Amos* | |||
| S | K. Davis-Clark* | Brad Phillips | Kurt Coleman | |
| S | Ashton Henderson* | Brendan Smith | Anderson Russell | |
| S | Dan Fortener | |||
| S | ||||
| K | Brett Swenson | |||
| P | Blake Haudan | Jon Thoma | ||
| Total | 18 | 15 | 11 | 21 |
| Penn State | Purdue | Wisconsin | ||
| QB | Daryll Clark | Joey Elliott | ||
| RB | Evan Royster | Jaycen Taylor* | John Clay** | |
| RB | Garrett Graham | |||
| WR | Brett Brackett | Royce Adams* | ||
| WR | Graham Zug | Aaron Valentin | ||
| WR | Patrick Mauti* | |||
| TE | Mickey Shuler | Mickey Turner | ||
| TE | Andrew Quarless* | |||
| OT | Dennis Landolt | Zach Jones | ||
| OT | DeOn'tae Pannell | |||
| OT | Ako Poti* | |||
| OT | Nerraw McCormack* | |||
| OG | Lou Eliades | Zach Reckman | ||
| OG | ||||
| OG | ||||
| C | Doug Klopacz* | Jared Zwilling | ||
| C | ||||
| DE | Jerome Hayes | Keyon Brown* | O'Brien Schofield | |
| DE | Tom Golarz* | |||
| DE | ||||
| DT | Jared Odrick | Mike Neal | Daniel Moore | |
| DT | Ollie Ogbu | Dan Cascone* | ||
| DT | Jeff Stehle | |||
| LB | Sean Lee | Jason Werner | Jaevery McFadden | |
| LB | Navorro Bowman | |||
| LB | Josh Hull | |||
| LB | Bani Gbadyu* | |||
| CB | Knowledge Timmons | Brandon King | ||
| CB | A.J. Wallace* | David Pender | ||
| CB | S. McCullough* | |||
| S | Cedric Jeffries* | Torri Williams | Chris Maragos | |
| S | Dwight Mclean | |||
| S | ||||
| S | ||||
| K | Collin Wagner | |||
| P | Jeremy Boone | Chris Summers | ||
| Total | 27 | 15 | 9 |
* indicates non-starting contributor
** indicates early entrant
Source: www.rivals.com, www.foxsports.com, www.scout.com
Mgoblog readers can extrapolate the data anyway you choose, but a few things to note. Only two teams lose fewer player than the 12 that Michigan loses; Northwestern loses 11 and Wisconsin only loses nine. Penn State loses 27 contributors while Ohio State loses 21 and Michigan State loses 18. These departures don't include any transfers, nor do they include any disciplinary departures (see Spartans).
We all know that good teams reload and often players on the bench outshine the player they replace, but I am happy to see how few holes we will need to fill relative to the rest of the conference.
It will be an interesting off season. The NFL has made it a little more interesting. We will know how many players are truly leaving on January 15, the last day to declare for the draft.
Go Blue!
