I understand him not thinking he would fit in our offense, but I don't get this thing about Notre Dame. Brian Kelly runs a pass-heavy spread. It's pretty clear that those fueling the "Spread will never get you to the NFL" myth, for whatever reason, have been more convincing than those defending it (read: those with any common sense.) The first WR taken in the draft this year played in the flexbone for Christ's sake.
TomVH: DeAnthony Arnett's Top Six
I just got off the phone with DeAnthony Arnett's brother, Ralph, who helps DeAnthony with his recruitment. They have a solid group of schools that make up his top six, and there will only be one school that could be added.
The top six is (in no order), USC, Cal, Oklahoma, MSU, Tennessee, and Iowa. The wildcard that could be thrown in, if they offer, is Miami.
Apparently, the recent quarterback commit to Miami, Teddy Bridgewater, really likes DeAnthony, and wants him at Miami. The only reason Miami hasn't offered yet is because their recruiting coordinator left, and coach Shannon never got to finish watching his film. It seems like they might be a big player, if the offer comes.
Ralph told me his take on everything with Michigan and DeAnthony is that at the end of the day, he has to do what's best for him, and he doesn't feel that offense will get him to the next level. He dropped Notre Dame for the same reasons, and said the only spread he would want to play in is Oklahoma's. It has nothing to do with the coaches at Michigan, who they think very highly of, or any other reason. Both Ralph and DeAnthony think that Rich Rod will have a lot of success at Michigan, it's just not the place for him to be a big time receiver, like he wants to be.
Demaryius Thomas is a physical freak, though. Arnett isn't.
Agreed. I don't know what he's looking at exactly, but ND's offense would actually be a pretty great for any WR (shh). I'll push for him to go to Miami. I like their program right now, and as long as he doesn't play for a rival, I'm down with it.
FWIW he said the exact opposite back when he set his top 3. There had been some questions lingering on whether ND could/had give him an actionable offer, that may have had some influence here. He may have just not liked the staff in the end too, either way good luck to him, he's going to be a good one.
Wide reciever is last on my list of worry spots for this team and we have several other very talented options.
We better be prepared for a horrible 2011 recruiting class for UM's standards. We can't even land the best kids in our home state, OSU is crushing us for the best kids in OH, I bet the FL well dries up quite a bit after UM turning their back on Dorsey and our 8-16 record over the last 2 years is really catching up on us.
Due to the small class size and inability to land elite level talent, we probably will not have a top 25 recruting class according to Rivals or Scout this year. The ONLY thing that can turn the tide a little bit will be a record of 8-4 or better and that may not help out that much in the 2011 recruiting.
OSU, you know, usually does pretty well in Ohio. They aren't exactly crushing us, they seem to be getting some good players, but they usually do. They are Ohio State, the best college football team in Ohio, so it makes sense for them to get the premier talent there at this point.
We didn't turn our backs on Dorsey, at least not yet. I'm sure there are many people at Michigan pulling hard for him and hoping he qualifies. The Florida well runs deep too, it doesn't dry out. The amount of elite commits we get there will dwindle if we don't improve, true, but we have established a base there (we already had a half way good one in the Lloyd days), so I don't see it drying up completely.
We are going after good talent, we have a shot at a lot of good talent, I think its a pretty good chance at top 25 recruiting.
And in-state recruits have left Michigan from time to time. This isn't the first time it's happened. USC has pouched some kids, we have pouched kids from other states. Sometimes MSU gets a few of the better players, that happens when kids grow up fans and have better connections through coaches (or however you wish to word that). Michigan was killing for Charles Rogers, just so happens ol' Bobby had a head up on us.
OSU is crushing us. They already have verbals from 5 of the Top 10 recruits in the State of Ohio and they are considered to be the leader for Doran Grant & Trey DePriest. I would say that's crushing us. That's how you keep the best players in your home state.
Dorsey is a done deal. Just because UM hasn't fomally said so, doesn't matter. Everyone who has an ear to the school has said as much. Names like Sam Webb, Tom Beaver and Dave Birket. Don't hold out hope that UM will get him in the end.
Also, just a reminder....Dee Hart really likes Dorsey. That was one of the selling points to Dee. Don't be shocked if Auburn beats us for Dee Hart after this Dorsey fiasco.
ohio st doesn't lead for depriest, alabama does. dee hart does like dorsey a lot...but not nearly as much as he likes ricardo miller. you really need to relax
I wish the kid luck, but elite WRs make it to the NFL irrespective of the system they play in. I mean, Calvin Johnson made it to the NFL with Reggie Ball duck-heaving passes to him. Sure, it probably helps to play in a pass-happy offense from a stats-level, but running good routes, learning how to block, and catching the ball in traffic and turning it into big games are skills you will learn in virtually any offense.
The kid is by all accounts a really good recruit for somebody. But why should this be anything close to a make-or-break recruitment for Michigan's 2011 class?
This all seems like an unusually high level of hysteria. Not a position of terrible need for Michigan; not an all-or-nothing recruit for Michigan. The kid was never a commit, nor a "lock" nor anythnig close to it for us. Just another kid, whose short list we wanted to be on, and whose mixtape was fun to watch. No other real extraneous factors that make this any kind of disaster. There are 1000 good high school football players every year who don't go to Michigan.
And I'll believe "MSU" when I see it.
[Edit. - to be clear, I am not accusing Tom VH's clear reporting of being anything like "hysteria." It is some of the comments that seem hysterical to me.]
no recruit makes or breaks a class or the team. Don't forget a lot of those highly touted recruits don't pan out at all. We'll survive Dorsey and we'll survive Arnett. True college football fans will be hoping they do well wherever they go.