Is There No PSU Fan Who Gets It?

Submitted by UMgradMSUdad on

 

Is there no Penn State fan who truly gets it?

I’ve been browsing fan websites for weeks, looking for a sign that Penn State fans understand why there is such enduring controversy surrounding their football program and school.  I can’t say that I’ve seen evidence that even a single fan really gets it.  The current president of the university seems to understand, but the most vocal PSU fans and alumni want to ride him out of town on a rail. The PSU fans seem to respond to the lunatic fringe of the blogosphere with answers to questions that no sane person is asking.

For example, PSU fans acknowledge that pedophilia is horrible and should never occur, but then act as though that somehow shows that they “get it.”

PSU fans list all the positive attributes of Penn State, its football players, its graduates, etc., etc.  Yes, we sane “outsiders” all understand that there is more good than bad in Penn State and there is plenty to be proud of.  Again, that’s never been in question, except to the lunatic fringe.

It is the next point, though, that begins to get at the crux of the problem. PSU fans point out the half truth that this sort of thing happens everywhere. Yes, child sex abuse is far more prevalent than most people realize, and most of us probably do know someone who has been abused and very well may know an abuser without realizing it.  These truths, though, ignore the difference, the reason Penn State is singled out and stands alone among US universities (as far as we know): at no other institution were there repeated allegations of child sex abuse that rose to the very top of the university where the response was to cover up, protect the pedophile, thereby allowing him to continue abusing children for over a decade.

Now, many PSU fans do acknowledge this last point, but almost none without spinning it in such a way to convince themselves it was just an isolated incident with just a few bad apples (I don’t know how many times I’ve heard it was just one monster and two, perhaps three others) and they are now out of the university, so the problem has been resolved.  That third individual, which many PSU fans still refuse to acknowledge, played a role in this is a if not the central figure in the cover up.  Joe Paterno, for all the teaching and preaching (and leading by example) he did about honor, integrity, doing things “the right way,” failed miserably on the biggest test to ever come his way.  There is no getting around this.  But these are the points I’m waiting for a Penn State fan to acknowledge, and it is some semblance of refusal to acknowledge these or similar points that leads to many saying Penn State fans still don’t get it:

1)      There was a cult of personality surrounding Joe Paterno.  This is not unique to PSU, so I’m not quite sure why there is such resistance to acknowledging this point.  The only difference might be that Joe Pa’s longevity and success led to a level of reverence perhaps never achieved at another university.

 

2)      Joe Paterno was the most powerful individual at Penn State for decades.

 

3)      While he might not be culpable legally under Pennsylvania law, morally and ethically Paterno failed the child abuse victims and the community by not doing more to stop Jerry Sandusky.

 

4)      When the most powerful person on campus, the athletic director, and the president of the university all cover up and enable a child rapist to continue his abuse for decades, and others in far lower positions in the university are afraid to come forward with complaints there is a question that must be asked and answered: who or what enabled the enablers?

Comments

John10

July 24th, 2012 at 11:00 AM ^

I'm not a lawyer. Don't know much about the law at all honestly. I was just curious about the statute of limitations. I'm probably wrong but i thought it was a 4 year thing. Wondering why the NCAA was so easy on Ohio when there was proof it went on way before Pryor. Is it just because the NCAA deemed PSU a "special" case...or was one of the victims molested 4 years from the date last year?

SamirCM

July 24th, 2012 at 11:22 AM ^

I think we should lay off the fans. They have no power and no say in any of this, and shouldn't, but are angry. Few of us mortals can keep our head "while others are losing theirs," and are speaking from a place of hurt and shock. Judging them, and judging their school, is a waste of time. In a year or so, we can reassess everything but for the time being, I don't give a rats' ass about football, I care about the children that were damaged. 

CRex

July 24th, 2012 at 11:32 AM ^

Victim 1 was forced to move into witness protection (with a pair of State Troopers on 24/7 standby) due to threats against him.  PSU fans would stop his mother in the street and confront her (Victim 1's identity leaked out to the local community).  Given that a segement of the fanbase attempted to intimidate a victim of child rape into not going to the police, they made themselves part of the group that gets judged and they are group that caused the NCAA to cite "culture problems".

lhglrkwg

July 24th, 2012 at 12:20 PM ^

I have been impressed with PSU's new president. He's said a lot of the right things and really seems to get it. Even if the slappies don't get it, he seems like the right choice to lead PSU out of the mess they've gotten themselves into

ChuckWood

July 24th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^

It has got to be horrible to be affiliated with PSU right now.  I coulnd't imagine what I would do if Bo or Carr was convicted of something like this.

We all need to remember it's a fans job to be a fan.  None of us can imagine what it's like to have everything you've ever believed in and the people you look up to your whole life all go to hell.  No fan of theirs couls have seen this coming.

I feel horrible for the victims of the sexual abuse.  But I also feel horrible for the fans who are being punished for something they did not have part in.

pmarcil1

July 24th, 2012 at 12:58 PM ^

Why would JoePa tell them not to say anything? Is there something pre 1998 that happened at Penn State that Paterno knew that would be found out?  Maybe once the FBI is done investigating, we will know for sure, but there is some reason why these three guys decided not to tell anyone about Sandusky.

snarling wolverine

July 24th, 2012 at 11:49 PM ^

There have been hints out there that Sandusky's "horseplay" was fairly well-known at PSU during this time (1990s).  Which makes sense - if he was regularly bringing boys into the showers, surely people must have noticed.  I wonder how many players knew about it (and if any ever tried to stop him).

 

 

Needs

July 24th, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^

On the original question of the post, the OP should listen to the Black Heart Gold Pants podcast with the guys who used to run BSD (and the discrepancy between their comments and those of the current blog may also indicate why they no longer run that blog).

TheRivalry

July 24th, 2012 at 6:35 PM ^

even trying to debate or have a conversation with these people. Joe Pa wasn't oblivious. He isn't Uncle Leo in the bookstore (I'm an old man, I'm confused). He knew full well that what he did or didn't do was wrong. Each time I ask this question to the apologists. "What would you say if that was your son, grand-son, or nephew?" The subject quickly changes.

suz48382

July 26th, 2012 at 9:19 PM ^

I have friends who went to Penn State and they "get it!"
I don't know about the rest of you, but I hurt when we lose 1 game!! Every single time.
Imagine finding out that all you believed in was based on the most despicable of crimes and cover ups.
They hurt!! More than we can ever know, and I hope we never have to.