Hoke was top notch at this aspect of his job.
Sorry if this is too far away from the coaching threads, but I wanted to compare the success of each teams NBA player. I came away from this with these thoughts:
Michigan State as of now has the best current NBA players. However, in 5 years the likes of Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr, Mitch McGary, and Nik Stauskas are going to out pace Draymond Green, Gary Harris, and Adreian Payne. Here is what I came up with:
PG: Kalin Lucas (Memphis Grizzlies)
Has only played one game for the Grizzlies, not the best representative of MSU's talent.
SG: Jason Richardson (Philadelphia 76ers)
He has averaged 17.3 points per game over his career which is very solid. He led the NBA in 2007 for three pointers made. Has not played in two years.
Gary Harris (Denver Nuggets)
Has not really played this year, he has averaged 4 points per game so far. He played well in the summer league, and needs to break through into the lineup.
SF: Alan Anderson (Brooklyn Nets)
A decent role player in his career averaging 7.8 points per game.
Shannon Brown (Miami Heat)
Averaging 7.6 points per game he has been a good role player.
PF: Draymond Green (Golden State Warriors)
He has averaged 5.5 points per game with a recent spike. He is starting on one of the best teams in the NBA and is playing really well. He is the best out of these young players.
C: Zach Randolph (Memphis Grizzlies)
The best active MSU player in the NBA. He has averaged 17.1 points per game in his career. He has been an all star two times.
Adreian Payne (Atlanta Hawks)
Brief D-League stint. Behind lots of talent in Atlanta.
PG: Trey Burke (Utah Jazz)
A solid young player, needs to shoot a lot better. He should end up being a Jameer Nelson type player.
Darius Morris (Free Agent)
Recently waived by the Portland Trail Blazers. If he had developed a shot he would have been a really good pro.
SG: Jamal Crawford (Los Angeles Clippers)
A very solid NBA player, he has averaged 15.6 points per game over his 14 year career.
Nik Stauskas (Sacramento Kings)
Very similar to Gary Harris so far. Just played his best game last night where he scored fifteen points with eight rebounds.
SF: Tim Hardaway Jr. (New York Knicks)
He has averaged 9.9 points per game in his short career. He has surprised many so far. He jacks up a lot of shots and does not play the best defense, but he is among the upper tier of these players.
Manny Harris (Los Angeles D-Fenders)
D-League. Averaged 6.4 points in 89 games in the NBA. Averages 26.9 PPG, 7.5 RPG, and 3.6 APG in the D-League.
PF: Glenn Robinson III (Minnesota Timberwolves)
Signed to a guarantee contract but has played sparingly. He has averaged 1.7 points in 7 games. Has had trouble breaking into a really bad Minnesota lineup.
C: Mitch McGary (Oklahoma City Thunder)
Broke his foot early on and is just now attempting a comeback. Mitch played pretty well in the D-League games he played.
Overall MSU wins for right now. But give Beilein a couple of years and this will change.
After all of the CC threads, I was very surprised that there has only been one mention of Doc Holliday. I personally like keeping track of unbeatens in college football and when Marshall was 4-0 I started to get curious. So I looked up there coach and started some research. Now that they are 7-0, I thought that this would be threadworthy. I am gonna break this up into a couple different categories similar to how Ron Utah has done his in the diaries(which are good reads). The categories are: Coaching Background, Offense, Defense, Special Teams, Recruiting, and likeliness of him coming here and staying.
West Virginia(Part 1):
He started off at West Virginia under Don Nehlen, who was a QB coach at Michigan, as a Wide Receivers coach. He did that for 7 years and moved to the defense to coach the Inside Linebackers. Then he went back to Receivers and then was promoted to Assistant Head Coach. He coached the three top career and single-season reception leaders in school history and 8 of the top ten players in both categories.
He coached in Raleigh for four years as an Assistant Head Coach and receivers coach. During his time here he coached three of the top 8 recievers in school history. Notice the pattern here.
You guys may not like this but Holliday coached under Urban Meyer from 2005-2008 as an Assistant Head Coach, safeties coach, and recruiting coordinator.
West Virginia(Part 2):
Almost hired as the head coach after Rich Rod left to coach somewhere, he was hired as the Assistant Head Coach, tight end coach, fullback coach and recruiting coordinator.
Where he is now, he has been the coach from 2009-Present.
Easily Hollidays strong suit, besides maybe recruiting. His teams can put up points and fast.
Here are his average rankings for yardage per game so far at Marshall:
47th TOTY/G = 435 Yds
40th PY/G = 265 Yds
60th RY/G = 170 Yds
But what about scoring?
Well, here you go:
20.8 PPG = 108th
22 PPG = 106th
40.9 PPG = 9th
43 PPG = 7th
2014(thru 7 games):
47.4 PPG = 2nd
This averages out to the 46th best Points per game. That is about 33 Points per game which is enough to win every game.
He runs a spready offense, but at this point I think we all would take someone who can win, it doesn't matter if he runs the triple offense, just score more than the other team.
The iffy spot of this guy, his defenses, have been above average but again not great.
He has had the
71st best pass yardage defense, the
65th best run yardage defense, and the
68th best total yardage defense.
That averages out to
237 pass yards,
163 rush yards, and
411 total yards.
Now points wise, his teams have averaged the 66th best defense in the country, which this year would be good for 27 points per game. Again, with his offense, enough to win.
An average special teams coach, this is by no means "Beamer Ball" but I do not think we would have to worry about counting the players on the field.
Over his career at Marshall, his punt team has averaged 42.8 yards per punt.
They have averaged 9.2 yards per punt return. Michigan averages 7.8 right now.
And they have averaged 22 yards per kickoff return. Michigan averages 19 right now.
So, a downgrade in the punting game but an upgrade in the return game. Plus I would imagine that Norfleet is better than what he can get at Marshall.
Doc Holliday is known for being a pretty outsanding recruiter. He has won the recruiting award for his area a bunch and has pretty good ties down south. He pulled together some pretty good classes at Florida and West Virginia. Here are his recruiting class rankings from rivals:
1 ****, 8 ***.
1 ****, 10 ***
3 ****, 8 ***
To get these consistent classes at Marshall is pretty impressive. He is not in a recruiting hotbed which some small schools are and he is at a school that is not intriguing.
He has averaged the 66th best class, that is consistent and an average class. He has gotten 5 four stars over six years. He has also averaged 10 3 ***s per class. Again these are pretty encouraging. At Michigan, there are a handful of kids that fall in love with Michigan no matter who the coach is. It seems like Holliday would do well enough here.
Likeliness of him coming/Staying:
I think if he was offered the job of a big time school i.e. Michigan, He would accept. However, he has only coached down south and has spent most of his time at West Virginia so I would say there would be a 40% chance of him coming if we offered. He only makes 600,000 a year right now so of we offered him 3 mil. I couldn’t see him turning that down. Also, if WVU ever came offering, I could see him spurning Michigan for that opportunity.
So overall, I really like Doc Holliday. He has gotten consistent results with worse players. Is he the best option? No. Should he be considered? Definitely. He has a lot of the things you look for in a quality coach.
I decided to start at the bottom and work my way up to what I think will be the standings next year. Rutgers was not very good this year, finishing 5-13 in the not-so-good American conference. A lot of people would say, "you can only get better from here". This may be true for this Rutgers team. Rutgers loses seniors Wally Judge and J.J Moore. Jerome Seagears, D’Von Campbell, and Craig Brown are also transferring. Losing these five players means a loss of:
48% of their points
41% of their rebounds per game
and 50% of their minutes
They do bring in 6 freshmen who, unless they contribute right away will leave Rutgers pretty awful.
So here is their projected roster:
# Name HT WT YR POS
11 Kadeem Jack 6-9 235 SR. PF
Starting Power Forward, averaged 14.3 points per game with 6.8 rebounds. A close second to Mack.
4 Myles Mack 5-10 175 SR. PG
Starting Point Guard, averaged 15 points per game with 4.3 Assists. Rutgers' best player.
0 Malick Kone 6-5 200 SR. SF
The starting Shooting Guard, averaged 3.5 points per game last year.
3 Kerwin Okoro 6-5 215 JR. SF
Does not play meaningful minutes.
21 Stephen Zurich 6-5 205 JR. SF
Same as Okoro.
23 Jalen Hyde 5-8 165 JR. PG
35 Greg Lewis 6-9 245 JR. PF
The starting Center that has a decent rebound rate. With him starting Rutgers actually has a pretty big lineup.
10 Junior Etou 6-7 230 SO. SF
The starting Small Forward, averaged 5.3 points per game.
33 Khalil Batie 5-10 175 SO. PG
5 Mike Williams 6-2 190 FR. SG
3 Star, offers from Dayton, Iowa, ST. Johns, Temple...
2 Bishop Daniels 6-3 185 FR. SG
3 star, no other offers
32 Ibrahima Diallo 6-10 240 FR. C
Rawer than sushi. 3 Star
22 D.J. Foreman 6-8 230 FR. PF
Offers from Iowa State, Minnesota, Pittsburgh…
13 Ryan Johnson 6-6 190 FR. SG
A low ranked prospect. Supposedly he can shoot. According to Rutgers he is the next Jeremy Lamb.
40 Shaquille Doorson 6-11 275 FR. C
Low ranked recruit. Redshirt.
15 Jake Dadika 5-11 160 FR. PG
My projected starting lineup:
Point Guard: Myles Mack
Shooting Guard: Malick Kone
Small Forward: Junior Etou
Power Foward: Kadeem Jack
Center: Greg Lewis
Michigan plays Rutgers at home and on the road next year, which is favorable for us.
In all, Rutgers is a pretty small team that is losing a lot of players of. They do not have depth, or much skill. The junior class looks to have nothing so the team will rely on mostly seniors. I project Rutgers will go 4-14 and tie with Purdue for last.
Next up... Purdue.
Well the grinch(Bo Ryan) is in store for a nice ride this season. He has a really good team this year. They made it to the Final Four last year and there is no reason to think they will not get there again this year. The Badgers lose Zach Bohannon and Ben Brust. This means losing:
This is not that much to replace. In fact their defense will get better. Brust was a good spot-up shooter but not much else. Gasser can replace his production. Here is their roster for this year:
# Name HT WT YR POS
32 Evan Anderson 6-10 245 RS.SR C
The back-up Center, he only played 14 games last year. There is not much to go by.
21 Josh Gasser 6-3 190 RS.SR SG
The starting Shooting Guard, he is a big part of how good Wisconsin is this year. If he can fill Brust's role, then the Badgers will be favorites to make the National Championship game.
13 Duje Dukan 6-9 220 RS.SR PF
Dukan will get about 10 minutes a game this year. He is a servicable back-up.
44 Frank Kaminsky 7-0 234 SR. C
Kaminsky came on strong towards the end of the year last year and was a huge part of their run. He is the starting Center, could be in the running for player of the year.
12 Traeveon Jackson 6-2 208 SR. PG
The starting Point Guard, plays a little too much isolation ball for my liking. With Craft and Appling gone, he is top 5 Point Guard in the conference.
2 Jordan Smith 6-1 180 RS.JR PG
Redshirted last year. Will be the back-up Point Guard.
15 Sam Dekker 6-7 220 JR. SF
Will be their second go-to-guy. If he develops his shot, he will be dangerous.
33 Zak Showalter 6-2 192 RS.SO PG
The third string Point Guard, redshirted last year.
35 Riley Dearring 6-5 180 SO. SG
Will not really play.
30 Vitto Brown 6-8 237 SO. PF
Will most likely be the third-string Power Forward.
24 Bronson Koenig 6-3 190 SO. SG
The back-up Shooting Guard, was actually decent last year and will be good this season.
11 Jordan Hill 6-3 170 SO. SG
Only played 11 games last year.
10 Nigel Hayes 6-7 250 SO. PF
The starting 4, he will be really good this year. He has some good post moves and a nice jump shot.
5 Aaron Moesch 6-8 200 SO. PF
He may have redshirted.
Ethan Happ 6-8 200 FR. PF
A three star, the #35 Power Forward in the class. He may or may not play.
T.J. Schlundt 6-4 180 FR. SF
A two star, the #82 Shooting Guard in the class. He will probably redshirt.
Projected Starting Lineup:
PG: Traeveon Jackson
SG: Josh Gasser
SF: Sam Dekker
PF: Nigel Hayes
C: Frank Kaminsky
If this team puts it all together, they will pretty hard to beat. I think that they will finish 15-3, good enough for 1st in the B1G.
Thank you guys for reading these, I am planning on posting these again when basketball season rolls back around. I may even do these for football if it gets enough support. Until then I am going to work on my NBA mock draft to post on here. Thanks Again!
Nebrasketball was awesome last year, especially since they beat everybody but us! We escaped with a win at Nebraska and absolutely blew them out at home. The Huskers were a great story last year, they did well enough to earn Tim Miles B1G coach of the year. The great thing about this team, is that they have TVs in their toilets! Nebraska loses almost nothing this year, they lose Mike Peltz, Ray Gallegos, Nathan Hawkins, Sergej Vucetic, Tim Wagner. This means losing:
This is why Nebraska is rated so high. They do not even lose a starters statistics. They also bring in two decent freshman and a transfer. This team will be experienced and good. Thirty Eight percent of their team are seniors. And another Thirty percent of the team are juniors. This team will perform really well at home and will be decent enough on the road. Here is their projected roster:
# Name HT WT YR POS
Moses Ayegba 6-9 247 SR. C
I do not know much about Ayegba. I am pretty sure that he sat out last year because he transferred. He will be the third-string Center this year.
21 Leslee Smith 6-8 255 SR. C
A turnover machine last year. He will be a good back-up this year. He needs to lose about 10 pounds to be more athletic.
2 David Rivers 6-7 198 SR. PF
The back-up Power Forward, he will average about 4 points a game this year.
10 Trevor Menke 5-11 183 SR. PG
The third-string Point Guard, he is a walk-on so I doubt he plays.
44 Kye Kurkowski 6-11 214 SR. C
31 Shavon Shields 6-7 219 JR. PF
Their second best player last year. He took some games over last year and will lokk to do the same this year. The starting Power Forward.
35 Walter Pitchford 6-10 234 JR. C
The starting Center, he was a pretty decent scorer and can shoot the three.
5 Terran Petteway 6-6 209 JR. SG
He may have horrible facial hair, but he is good at basketball. He is the starting Small Forward. He averaged 18.1 points per game and should be one of the frontrunners for B1G POY.
3 Benny Parker 5-9 166 JR. PG
The starting Point Guard, he is small and that is a weakness. However, he does not need to handle the ball much.
0 Tai Webster 6-4 194 SO. SG
He may not score much but he is decent at defense. He is the starting Shooting Guard.
23 Nick Fuller 6-6 199 SO. SG
Redshirted last year, will be the back-up Shooting Guard.
Jacob Hammond 6-8 228 FR. PF
The third-string Power Forward, he may redshirt. He was a three star, the #29 Center in the class.
Tarin Smith 6-2 165 FR. PG
The back-up Point Guard. He was a two star, the #63 Point Guard in the class.
This team found a way to put it all together last year, and this year, they are even better. I think they will go second, with a record of 13-5 in the B1G.
Next up... Wisconsin
I am a lot higher on Ohio State than most people. With their recruiting class, it will be hard not to improve on last year. The Buckeyes lose Lenzelle Smith Jr and Aaron Craft to graduation. They also lose LaQuinton Ross and Amedeo Della Valle to the pros. Yes you read that correctly, Della Valle is going pro. This means losing:
Losing the grittiest player of all time is tough for a team. However, Craft was not really all that good. I think Ohio State fans would much rather Scott start over Craft. They also get THREE 5 star recruits. Here is their projected roster:
# Name HT WT YR POS
55 Trey McDonald 6-8 240 SR. PF
The back-up Power Forward, will get about 15 minutes this year.
34 Jake Lorbach 6-7 210 SR. SG
24 Andrew Goldstein 6-3 200 SR. PG
23 Amir Williams 6-11 250 SR. C
The most UN-intersted man in basketball. He doesn't always try hard, but when he does, he is pretty good. If he tries this year, he can be dominant.
12 Sam Thompson 6-7 200 SR. SF
An athletic freak, he is gettting more and more skilled. He will get about 30 minutes a game this year. Sam should be one of their go-to guys.
3 Shannon Scott 6-1 185 SR. PG
Scott went off against us last year and if he can do that all the time, Ohio State will be set. He is almost as good on defense as Craft and he actually has something resembling an offensive game.
Anthony Lee 6-9 230 SR. PF
Lee is a transfer from Temple, if I am not mistaken he can play this year. He should be their go-to guy as he did pretty well at Temple.
15 Kam Williams 6-2 175 SO. PG
I am pretty sure he redshirted. In that case he will get about 5 to 10 minutes a game next year.
2 Marc Loving 6-7 215 SO. SF
Loving will be the back-up 3 this year and will probably split minutes with Bates-Diop as a back-up.
32 Trevor Thompson 6-11 210 SO. C
Transfer from Virginia Tech. Has to sit out a year.
D'Angelo Russell 6-4 180 FR. SG
A five star, the #1 best Shooting Guard in the class. He will start at the 2.
Keita Bates-Diop 6-7 190 FR. SF
A five star, the #6 Small Forward in the class. He will split minutes as the back-up 3.
Jae'Sean Tate 6-5 190 FR. SG
A five star, the #8 Small Forward in the class. He will be the back-up 2.
David Bell 6-9 200 FR. C
A three star, the #37 Center in the class. He will be the back-up 5.
Projected Starting Line-up:
Point Guard: Shannon Scott
Shooting Guard: D'Angelo Russell
Small Forward: Sam Thompson
Power Forward: Anthony Lee
Center: Amir WIlliams
Ohio State should be pretty good, I think they will finish 3rd in the B1G with a record of 13-5 in the B1G. If you disagree with anything, let me know.
Next up... Nebraska