WVU had 17 recruits from 02 - 07, not 11. I hit the wrong key. Sorry.
OL recruiting? Not a problem
Perhaps, like me, many of you have gotten some hullabaloo about Michigan not recruiting any offensive linemen under Coach RR. Since I was bored today, I did some half-assed research on Rivals.com.
West Virginia OL recruiting since 2002:
I haven't cross-referenced WVU's roster to see what, if any, impact these recruits had, but it's certainly not a plethora of fatties (11 over 6 years). That doesn't sound like a lot to me.
Over that same time period, Coach Carr recruited 24 lineman. 24 seems like a reasonable number over 6 years, considering injuries, graduation, etc.
But does recruiting O-linemen really translate to success? Here's something I found extraordinary while doing this research: Ohio State only recruited 13 linemen in the same time frame. On two "occasion" (03 and 07), The Vest had ONE OL recruit in each of those classes.
Some other comparisons:
USC - 20 OL recruits from 02-07
Texas - 19
Florida - 22
Michigan had the highest number of OL recruits of the 6 schools mentioned but it did not translate into more success. Hart and Henne did set school records but that didn't translate into "big game" victories or NT game appearances.
I'm pretty sure all of us would accept the same success WVU, Ohio State, USC and the rest had on the field with their limited number of OL recruits.
It's not the most in-depth research data, but it should certainly calm everyone's fear that a lack of o-line recruits is something we should be concerned with. RR has 5 OL in the current freshmen class and 1 committed in 09 (and I anticipate at least one or two more). That's an average of 3 - 4 linemen per class which is what these other schools averaged.
O-linemen are a different breed. They take time grow and gel, more so than any other group on the team. Unlike a TB or WR who may have developed the majority of his speed and quickness before he even steps foot on campus. OL need to grow, learn, and mature as freshmen and sophomores.
Tell anyone whose worried about the lack of OL in the recruiting class to step off the ledge. RR has got it under control.
How do you type a '1' instead of a '7'? Were you typing with your fist? Your apology is not good enough, fist-typer.
Just kidding, interesting analysis.
Interesting article. When someone expresses concern about OL recruiting to me, I remind them we had 6 guys redshirt this year. And I give the coaching staff a lot of credit for not burning any of them, as I'm sure the temptation was there at different points of the season. And I'm sure next year we'll get at least 3.
It goes way deeper than this. Michigan could sign 25 2* lineman a year and may as well have signed just one Jake Long.
As cliched as it is, Quantity does not equal quality.
Yea, without losing any linemen towards graduation we have at least 6 with 4 full years of eligibility left. I definitely see us attempting to get 1 if not 2 more. Lewan seems like a huge target for us, and I still think we are a favorite for that massive OL from Trotwood.
yeah but how much does Carr's recruitment of 24 OLineman have to do with injuries, attrition and people getting moved to different positions?
I agree that Carr tended to go with quantity over quality when it came to OL recruits (at least toward the end) - it seemed like every year he had two or three kids who knew would never see meaningful game time until, at best, their senior year, and usually only if an injury occurred. I'm all for depth, but I rather take my chances with fewer recruits who are better fits than some mediocre recruits who would take far more work.
I don't know if this is true.
Barring attrition/injury, we should have had the following this year:
***** Steve Schilling
**** Corey Zirbel
**** Justin Schifano
**** Justin Boren
**** Alex Mitchell
**** David Mooseman
**** Brett Gallimore
Of those, we had 2 (Schilling and Mooseman). It's not a lack of quality recruits - it's unprecedented attrition.
Throw in the fact that Jeremy Ciulla (3 stars) quit, it's a fucking blessing Carr recruited so many O-lineman or we would have been starting walk-ons.