Observations on the Iowa Game

Submitted by shackney on
Last week, I argued that the State of Michigan's Union was strong.  I watched the Iowa game on television in LA yesterday and found myself pissed off and annoyed in a way that was different from the MSU game last week.  It reminded me of how I felt after last year's ND game -- a big win was in our sights, and we pissed it away because we couldn't hold onto the football.  But I let 24 hours pass in order to clear my head, and have decided that my statement about our team's position remains true.  I articulate the reasons why, and then close with a concern.

1.  GERG is doing his job extremely well.  At the time of his hiring, I questioned the wisdom of bringing in the former head coach of a losing program like Syracuse.  I have since become a believer.  The Michigan defensive line last night was absolutely terrific.  I thought our linebacking was improved over MSU.  Our corner play was, I thought, great.  Obviously, the safety play was terrible, but when you have the always-hustling but not fast walk-on in Kovacs, and a disappearing Boubacar who is necessitating weekly personnel changes, what can you do?  What really impresses me is the defense's ability to come on after an offensive turnover in the red zone and hold them to a field goal.  One obvious point: our ineptitude on third and very long is more than a little weird.  I don't think I've seen Michigan give up conversions on 3rd and 25 in consecutive games.  Still and all -- the takeaway for me is that GERG is dramatically improving our defense and that they played well enough for us to win.

2.  Our offensive line is also improving.  First, hats off to Moosman, who has learned an entirely new position in just three weeks.  I didn't see one errant snap.  When I saw Iowa's defensive line eviscerate Penn State, I thought "Man are we screwed."  I can't say enough about how well the O-Line set up the run game.  If anything, I spent much of the game complaining that we weren't running more.  Two of our scoring drives involved almost solely running -- and the first one (with Tate at the helm) involved a lot of I-formation and other non-spread sets.  The O-Line got it done on the running front, and was passable in pass protection.  Good job.

3.  The team continues to show tremendous heart in hostile environments.  I have never been to Kinnick, but I am told it is an Autzen-like place to play -- very devoted fans, who are loud and really come out for their team.  To see this team, with two frosh QBs, a number of walk-ons, and a number of guys playing out of position, fight and fight and still have a chance to win notwitstanding all that went wrong was, for me, a key sign that Michigan is still Michigan.  We never quit on you and we will fight to the end.

I think you can legitimately chalk this game up to turnovers (although you need to remember that we got a pick 6).  If you view turnovers as something that (with respect to fumbles) is somewhat random and (with respect to picks) is part of Tate's continued learning process, this is one of the better ways to lose a game. 

The takeaway -- this team is better than we hoped, and has a fighting spirit that impresses each week.  I love this team.  For my money, if we play that game ten times, we win 4 or 5 of them.  If we play it at home, I think we win 6.  The Vegas line was clearly way off.

A closing concern.  From my vantage point, it has become faddish on Mgoblog to support Rodriguez no matter what.  Rodriguez critique is typically roundly condemned.  So I will start with my traditional caveats in the hopes of staving off some of the typical pushback: I am a supporter and continue to believe that we were very lucky to luck into a coach this good.

That being said, I have been watching Rodriguez closely and am not impressed with his in game demeanor.  The guy rips into players virtually every time they come off the field.  He was in Forcier's face 3 or 4 times.  You have this nagging sense that Rodriguez's brain is wired to say to himself "Given that I am offensive genius, when things don't work out, it must be someone else's fault."  Ripping Tate a new one repeatedly isn't being a coach -- it's being a brat.  Saying "Tate needs to get that fixed" as you run off the field at the end of the first half when you are referring to a fluke slip of the hand is just petty.  And allowing your fit of pique to lead you to take the ball away from a guy who has led three stunning fourth quarter comebacks is to allow emotion to control over reason.  Through the entire first half, I was begging Rodriguez to run more.  I really questioned the playcalling -- I think you have to dial it back a bit on the road and try to manage the game more.  And no, I am not surprised that we turn the ball over a lot on the road when we have a super-complex offense that requires every player on the team to spend the last ten seconds of the pre-play NOT thinking about what they are going to do, but rather looking over at Rodriguez as he "makes adjustments" to "what he is seeing in the defense."  Lloyd and Bo weren't ones to spare the lash -- but they did it with purpose in specific situations where it was merited.  They didn't do it as a habit to vent stress.  Hell, Bo was too busy shredding the refs to divert precious time to shredding his own players.  I am not yet seeing an on-field leader in Rodriguez.  An offensive coordinator and a brilliant one?  Absolutely.  A head coach?  My jury is still out.

Comments

Papochronopolis

October 12th, 2009 at 12:10 AM ^

I think you may be making too much of RR's blowing up at Tate. Tate can deal with it, he's a strong character and needs to understand when he's making mistakes (made quite a few). In respect to play calling and expecting players to have to be able to adjust at all times, I don't see what's the problem with that when it works out. Obviously the guys are going to make plenty of mistakes since they are all quite young, and as they have more experience in the system things will be much smoother. Like you said, I think this game has to be chalked up to turnovers. Overall I wasn't overly impressed by the play calling and coaching, but it was by no means bad and you would probly not say anything about it had we not had unacceptable turnovers (senior dropping punt! senior RB coughing ball up in RZ!). Not to mention the many momentum killing mistakes such as the first holding call. All in all I think that RR is developing as well as his players; everyone needs time to grow into their shell. The only real thing that left me pondering was that onside kick...

UNCWolverine

October 12th, 2009 at 12:13 AM ^

Just got back to LA after a full day of traveling from Iowa City. You are right, that was a tough place to play. And your points are on point. I too am still pretty amazed at the effort that we showed given our immaturity and flaws in such a tough environment. I forgot to DVR the game so I will not be able to watch what you are describing. That said I was pretty stunned to see Tate not come out for the last two drives last night. I was equal parts frustrated, confused, and intrigued when DR took the field. If RR simply took Tate out of the game due to emotion then I agree that was a complete fail for a head coach, particularly after what Tate has done already this year when his back was against the wall. HOWEVA, if Tate was disciplined rightly for something that he did or said then I have RR's back. In that case it would be akin to what Beilein did when he kept Manny out of the OT. That worked out pretty well in the end for Manny and Beilein. RR cannot, and will not, put Tate on a pedestal so it might have been justified. I hope they are able to kiss and make up and that it doesn't fester. Go Blue.

michiganfanforlife

October 12th, 2009 at 12:19 AM ^

I do see what you are talking about with the screaming at players on the sidelines. I think he's just like that, and maybe it will get better as he gets older. I honestly think that RR was making a point sitting Tate, and we paid for the lesson with a loss. It really wasn't smart to get Denard to try and run a 2:00 drill in a big game like that. The INT was a bad throw/decision, and Denard wasn't hurrying them up to the line fast enough either. Hopefully, we can string a few more wins together and finish this year respectfully. I still want 8 wins, but 7 might be more realistic. They are so much more fun to watch this year, and every game has me on the edge of my seat for the whole thing. We all knew that our freshman QB's would make big mistakes this year, and Tate had a bad game. I can't wait to go up to Ann Arbor for my last trip up there for the year this weekend. Road Trip!!! Go Blue!

carlos93

October 12th, 2009 at 12:31 AM ^

Very good post. I was not a fan of Rich when he was hired on. However, I do hope that he becomes a "Michigan" man and not only win games but does so in a way that every Michigan fan and alum can be proud. Next year will be a very telling year as Rich's recruits will be replacing the likes of Brown, Minor, Graham, ... Can UM win games in South Bend and Columbus? Can the defense win games next year? Does a more sophisticated vertical offense emerge? I hope that this answer is to yes to all the above.

SirJack

October 12th, 2009 at 12:47 AM ^

You're dead right that the surest way to get negged on this site is to say anything that remotely questions RR and staff's decisions. I guess folks are looking for unquestioning allegiance? People have to realize you can question the coach and still support him 100%. I think it's just a backlash from all the nonsense (Practicegate, Boren, etc.) that RR's had to deal with. Yes, RR's very demanding, but personally I like his game-time demeanor. It's intense. These kids need to be mentally tough. And yeah, the onside kick with over 3 minutes left was crazy! This was overshadowed by the decision to play DR at the end, but wtf? there're three minutes left, man! Think about field position! Onside kicks work once every twenty times, if that. Bad call.

bouje

October 12th, 2009 at 12:52 AM ^

If we kick it off (our Kickoff coverage was horrible all game and their drives were starting around the 30/35 so let's ignore that) and they start at the 25 they get 8 yards of their plays. So that's 33 yard line. Their punter averages 41 yards per kick. 33+17=50, 41-17=24, 50-24=26. Wow 6 yards for a chance at getting the ball back. Less than 10 yards. That was obviously a terrible call! FIRE RICH ROD! GET HIM OUT OF HERE HE OBVIOUSLY HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING!!!!

bouje

October 12th, 2009 at 9:39 AM ^

I think that risking 5-10 yards for a chance at the ball is a good risk/reward ratio... But what do I know about risk and reward (hint I do it for a living).

jmblue

October 12th, 2009 at 7:06 PM ^

Actually, the success rate of onside kicks is around 20%. Attempting one gives you two chances to get the ball back: one at the time of the kick and one if you get a defensive stop. Kicking it deep gives you only one shot.

bouje

October 12th, 2009 at 12:49 AM ^

Which is complete shit. How can you say that "the jury is still out for RR as a head coach"? What planet are you on? Listen how many times before this game and at the beginning of the game do you see RR NOT rip into Tate when he makes a poor decision. LOTS. When Mesko didn't punt the ball did Rich rip the shit out of him. NO!!!!! I think that he is a very patient person but when you keep making the same mistakes over and over again running around like a chicken with it's head cut off heaving hail mary prayers all game. Yes Rich will get pissed off. Listen there are already a MILLION different threads on the Iowa game latch on there instead of giving us "your original opinion".

JHendo

October 12th, 2009 at 12:56 AM ^

Granted I'm clearly not a college football coach so who am I to judge him, but there's only so much of our defense's shortcomings that can be blamed on the players' lack of effort/size/inexperience. Basically, GERG is doing anything but extremely well. I will credit him for appearing to be a somewhat decent game week prep coach, but that is where my praise of him stops. He lacks a very critical quality. The ability to scrap your original defensive game plan and adjust to the offensive schemes. When a defense is throwing under to the WRs, he refuses to play the CBs up and jam at the line. On Saturday, when it was evident Iowa's offense was revolving around the TE, would it really have been so difficult to put Mouton be on Moeaki duty? And also, safety blitzes when our secondary already does a wonderful job letting players slip past them? That's just poor coaching. No ifs ands or buts about it. He's just not doing anywhere near a decent in-game coaching job. Don't get me wrong, I'm sick of this d-coordinator merry go round and am committed to GERG, but don't confuse yourself by saying he's doing good.

wishitwas97

October 12th, 2009 at 1:21 AM ^

was okay but not great. Iowa was on nickel the entire game and they didn't run the ball on them. Granted that they ran 195 yards which is good but against a 5-6 man front, Michigan should be able to run on them all game long with Minor and Shaw. Tate needs to learn that throwing the ball away is okay that he can live for another down. He also needs to learn that taking a sack can be a good thing. The freshmen mistakes that he has been making is killing me throughout the whole season. I figure that it would catch up to him if he keep making the same mistakes. Teams are starting to figure out Tate and has been bottling him up for the last 3 games. The only criticism that I have on RR is he should've put Denard in earlier than the next to last drive to mix up the offense. Denard is too good of an athlete not to be on the field. It shows in the last two drives where he basically outathleted Iowa defense. Of course it helps that he was fresh. I wouldn't mind seeing Denard getting a lot snap to get some experience at QB against Delaware St and also to send a message to Tate that he needs to get it together. I am pretty sure that Devin Gardner is enrolling early but it has yet to be confirmed. If he is, he may have a shot of winning the starting QB job if Tate continues to make the same mistakes(hopefully not because his mistakes are a result of inexperience and trying to do too much).

The King of Belch

October 12th, 2009 at 12:37 PM ^

"The freshmen mistakes that he has been making is killing me throughout the whole season. I figure that it would catch up to him if he keep making the same mistakes. Teams are starting to figure out Tate and has been bottling him up for the last 3 games" Uh, if "freshmen mistakes" is killing you, perhaps you should tune out until Tate becomes a sophomore. Teams are starting to figure him out, and are bottling him up? What part of Michigan State living in Michigan's backfield didn't register with you? What part of another comeback and 36 points against Indiana (with an ijured shoulder) didn't register with you? So the #12 team, with a very good defense, held Tate in check with a defensive game plan he hadn't seen--and it's all HIS fault? No adjustements from the coaching staff? (Well, at least not until the third quarter when they went I-formation and then UM ran down the field like it was practice and scored). Of course, it was Tate's fault that the defense couldn't cover a tight end who runs about as fast as a dead moose. It was Tate's fault that Mathews (who doesn't seem to WANT to be a punt returner) fumbled one at the 15. It must have been Tate who knocked the ball out of Minor's hands at Iowa's 30. Must be Tate who coaches UM's defense and calls the plays for what they'll do defensively on 3rd and long. And I want to see if you really WILL die if Tate makes more mistakes. Keep us posted.

jmblue

October 12th, 2009 at 7:11 PM ^

Iowa was on nickel the entire game and they didn't run the ball on them. Granted that they ran 195 yards which is good but against a 5-6 man front, Michigan should be able to run on them all game long with Minor and Shaw. Are we talking about the same Iowa defense that was surrendering only 122 rushing yards per game coming in, and hadn't given up a rush TD in 33 quarters? We played them without our leading rusher, and with basically no passing game. How many rushing yards did you expect us to get?

wishitwas97

October 13th, 2009 at 11:40 AM ^

is based on spreading defense out leaving to take advantage of 5-6 man front. If a team goes nickel, you better run for over 300 yards regardless of how good of a run defense they are. The offense has the advantage in terms of numbers yet they couldn't take advantage of it. That's why I'm disappointed with Michigan's rushing performance despite the fact that they ran for 195 yards. RR's scheme is part of the reason why teams chose to stay in base 4-3 or 3-4 defense to combat against the spread option offense.

bluebyyou

October 12th, 2009 at 6:21 AM ^

RixhRod has always had a temper which comes across as less than pretty. He had it at WVU. Saturday night it was justified. The question I ask is whethet Tate is making progress as a QB. Like most of you, I appreciate how pivotal Tate has been to our success, but we are now half way into the season. Tate has played almost six full games. Yet, I see very little progress in terms of throwing the ball away or taking a sack in lieu of turning over the ball. The QB takes the proverbial hit when the receivers don't run the right route, but sometimes criticism is justified. Saturday night, it seemed at times that Tate was panicking. The question I am asking myself is if Tate is about as good as he is going to get. It is one thing to have a kid oozing talent but not having been coached. That is not the case with Tate, who has received coaching his whole life. This may be harsh, but my guess is that if you don't see Tate playing better soon, he won't be our QB very far down the road.

ijohnb

October 12th, 2009 at 7:53 AM ^

The truth of the matter is that Robinson is actually more equipped to run RR's offense than Tate. The read option needs to happen quickly, like in the blink of eye, and it needs to happen over and over again without unnecessary delay. Tate got a big win against ND and may have a bright future, but "may have" is all I can say at this point. RR's offense is designed to flat out overwhelm a defense with speed and repitition, it is not a come from behind offense. The very fact that UM has needed to come back from a late deficit so many times is evidence that it is not functioning as designed. Everytime Tate "comes back" from a late deficit, the more convinced I am that he may be the wrong fit. True Freshman, I am aware, but this is one die hard Michigan fan who may be ready to see what the Denard era has in store, for better or worse.

oakapple

October 12th, 2009 at 8:30 AM ^

Of course Rodriguez's offense is not functioning as designed. What kind of offense would it be if a true freshman could master it in a few games? It is not normal to play a true freshman at QB. Perhaps some folks got spoiled by the ND game into thinking Forcier would be a world-beater in every game. That's just not possible. Having said that, Denard Robinson has been inferior to Forcier in just about every respect. He has shown no authority throwing the ball more then 5-10 yards, and he hasn't mastered the zone read. So far, he can do just one thing reliably: carry the ball himself. He had one good change-of-pace drive against the Iowa defense after it had been on the field all game. Michigan cannot play that offense for 60 minutes and expect to win. I'm as bullish on Robinson as anybody. I think he will eventually start completing those downfield passes, and oh boy, will he be dangerous. But to think he's ready now is insane.

Engin77

October 12th, 2009 at 12:26 PM ^

Tate's early success (Best True Starting Freshman, Ever!!!) had some folks projecting victories which have evaporated as Tate faced stronger defenses in a hostile environment. Bumps and bruises as well as opposing coaches having tape to watch has made it tougher. Is he still a young man with amazing talents? Absolutely. Does he still have alot to learn. Absolutely.

jamiemac

October 12th, 2009 at 10:43 AM ^

This is not the library. I have zero issues with Rodriguez's demeanor or the way he handles the players. He is a head football coach. He does not make quiet sugesstions to his players. Your 'jury' needs to watch more football if its still 'out' that he is top shelf head coach. What a ridiculous assertion.

jamiemac

October 12th, 2009 at 10:54 AM ^

Yeah, I like how the O.P. also hints that its something Bo would not do. Who is he crapping? Was their another Bo that coached at Michigan that I am unaware of. Yeah, he was all atta boys and hugs on the sidelines. I am sure, up in Heaven, Bo is kicking himself for screaming at Jamie Morris coming off the field for fumbling or Jim Harbaugh for running a play differently than it should have been run. He probably would have won Big 10 titles with them had he coddled them. We used to sit in Section 14 and seek Bo out with binoculars after players made mistake, just to see his reaction. You either got yelled at or ignored....and former players have said that the latter was worse, because it meant he gave up on you, at least in that moment.

bouje

October 12th, 2009 at 11:03 AM ^

What do you think is worse? RR yelling at Tate or Tate throwing a pick, fumbling, having a D-Lineman make him a pancake? I have a boss who is a mean/angry son-of-a-bitch and teaches people by yelling at them. Some people can't take it but It is MUCH worse to have him yell at you than for you to screw up in our job/line of work.

The King of Belch

October 12th, 2009 at 12:08 PM ^

Sorry--this ain't the fucking armed services, and this ain't 1969. You don't go screaming at your players on the sidelines time and again. Different day, different players, and cameras at all angles catching you acting like an idiot. The coach should remain calm and collected. He's 46 years old--should be better than that. Of course, in this age of the New Michigan Fan, EVERYTHING is the players' faults, and the Mighty Godriguez can do NO wrong. For those criticizing Tate Forcier and even being such an ass as to suggest that Robinson is better equipped to run this offense (unless, of course, THIS offense means 7 passes per game and those passes being nothing more than 5 yard outs or bubble screens and a tight end catching one pass all season), this team would be 2-4 without him (if that), the fan base would be in a complete panic, and Rodriguez would be sending his resume out to everyone from AFLAC to the University of Manitoba.

allHAILthedeat…

October 12th, 2009 at 2:21 PM ^

Have you ever played a ocmpetitive sport? Even once? When you fuck up, your coach is supposed to let you hear it. That's his fucking job.
And I don't buy into this "don't yell at your players, you'll hurt their feelings" bullshit. Self-esteem is a sham, and an excuse to coddle kids. They are there on a full-ride scholarship (a priveledge) to play football, and play it well. Yelling at them further reinforces "don't do that again".
And the football/army analogy is more accurate than you think. You drill into these kids' heads what to do when, and to always do as you say. There is a striking similarity between 2-a-days or 3-a-days and boot camp. Sure, the army is a bit more intense (for obvious reasons), but the analogy still holds.
And one more thing: are you trying to get banhammered?

The King of Belch

October 13th, 2009 at 6:16 AM ^

The military analogy is silly. The military is about life and death--really, REALLY important things. College football is about student-athletics and kids who should be having a lot of fun while participating. Look, I'm sure Tate can handle it and he will come out and play well his next time out. But Rodriguez spent last year yelling at guys who were young and not even the syle of athlete he needs for his offense. This isn't new, and just because some guys had coaches who yell or fans on the message boards think it's ok to yell at guys in public and in front of TV cameras doesn't mean it IS right. A coach should keep his or her composure at all times. I'd say it's doubl so for a guy who has a tenuous hold on his position and is coming off the worst season in school history and is coaching ateam still made up of very young players mixed in with holdovers from a completely different style coach. That's just my opinion and I'm gonna stick with it. And BTW: I played competitive sports AND served in the Marine Corps. And unlike most of the posters here, I have had sex with real, live women.

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allHAILthedeat…

October 13th, 2009 at 8:21 AM ^

I am about to render your argument invalid, ready?
Bo.
He had some of the the toughest, meanest, best teams, and do you know how he go them there? Yelling. That's right, it works!
Coaches are supposed to yell, the negative reinforcement molds behavior to that which is desired - much like the army, which is where the analogy comes from.
BTW: An analogy points out similarities between two things, it doesn't "x = y". Thus, "2-a-days are similar to boot camp" != "2-a-days are the same as boot camp."
And lastly, I call shenanigans on this: "I played competitive sports AND served in the Marine Corps. And unlike most of the posters here, I have had sex with real, live women."
No marine would shy away from yelling. Having been through boot camp they would be able to see the value of yelling and other such negative reinforcement (e.g. "you messed up big, go run more wind-sprints"). And, no marine would act like such a little bitch.

The King of Belch

October 13th, 2009 at 10:19 AM ^

Never won a national championship and was a routine loser of bowl games. Placing some sort of "value" on yelling--well, that's pretty silly. How can you quantify it? And does "yelling" make every Marine, soldier, or seaman better? How many wash out? It is impossible to render my argument "invalid" with invalid points that attempt to place a value on such an intangible concept. There's no coaching handbook that says they are "supposed" to yell--and by the way, Mr Strawman, I'm not arguing against yelling per se--just that it is (IMO) NOT the best thing to do on national TV and with such young people. Why is Rodriguez beyond reproach here--yet a freshman in his SIXTH game--not? What kind of cred has Rodriguez earned at Michigan as the frontpiece for the football program to be doing that in front of a national audience to a kid who (besides NOT being in boot camp) has played exactly ONE bad game of football, and is THE reason this team is an optimistic 4-2 instead of a foundering 2-4 and headed farther south? I fail to see the long, gracious hand Rodriguez has ben extended in light of the fact that the last coach never had a losing season, won a national championship, made a bowl game every year, took over under much less than ideal circumstances, yet is routinely villified and blamed for the current state of the program. Also, any criticisms of Tate Forcier are, IMO, unwarranted and I can't see why people are again willing to keep trashing players while granting Rodriguez, who was an abject failure in Year One, so much leeway. Lastly--don't tell me yelling "works"--what works is a player's will to understand what the coach is trying to say and sticking with things due to his intrinsic motivation combined with great athletic ability and confidence. But again, I'm not, and haven't ever said that coaches shouldn't do it--just that during a game, on nationa television, and to an inexperienced team that has been through the ringer over the last 22 months--it is not something I like to see and probably have many, many people who agree with me.

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allHAILthedeat…

October 13th, 2009 at 11:01 AM ^

Look, I share your semi-man-crush for Tate, really I do. I also think he was pretty banged up (see: concussion that happened god only knows when) and he wasn't making good decisions with the ball. Concussions can do that. Since Rodriguez didn't know about said concussion, yelling at a player for bad mistakes is what he's supposed to do. It's what he did on the punt return when one of our players (I can't remember who) obviously hauled down an iows player. Guy messed up, he got yelled at, we move on.
I am not here to say that Rodriguez gets a free pass while all of the blame falls on his players. That's not how it works, and anyone who would suggest so is an idiot. I am, however, here to say that the belief that a coach shouldn't yell at his player during a game because it might be caught on camera is just ludicrous.
Great coaches do what is necessary to motivate their players to succeed. Bo yelled (as my previous point illustrates), Lloyd yelled (though less often), Les Miles yells, Urban Meyer yelles, Pete Caroll (sp?) yells, and so does every other coach in the country. When you need to yell, you yell. When you need to encourage, you encourage. But to say "never yell on tv" is just stupid, especially in a tight game where the opportunity is there to win it.
I personally don't give a flying fuck if you like it, a good coach will discipline his players when appropriate. And the only ways to do so in a game are to yell at them or sit them out. Or both.

The King of Belch

October 13th, 2009 at 11:19 AM ^

And Rodrigez can yell all he wants when he has proven he will win at Michigan, and when his players have been under him to the point that the vast majority of them aren't seeing their first real game action. And you can cite Bo all you want, or whomever else you choose--and I agree that it happens. But the other guys you bring up have one thing: cache. National championships, or as in the case of Bo, having started this thing back in 1969 and being able to do it in a different era when that thing was more accepted. I refuse to accept a coach losing his composure. I hate it when coaches bark at referees, their players, toss chairs, do any of that stuff. I also happened to have watched Tom Osborne for about 15 years close up and don't recall him doing that--and the results were pretty damn good for him and Nebraska. I do laugh at your condescending "man crush" thing, though. Again, the strawman strikes. Without Tate, Rodriguez would be D-O-N-E at Michigan by the end of this season. I think you take that into effect. And for a guy who is not exactly lighting up the 2010 recruiting trail--get a grip, understand the microscope you are under, and deal with it. Bite your tongue, put your arm around a kid, tell him quietly that you are going to rip his balls off, pat him on the ass and smile for Candid Camera.