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Notre Dame's Replacement on Michigan's 2018-19 Schedules
The Notre Dame series takes a hiatus on Michigan's 2018 and 2019 schedules. I am assuming that Michigan would seek to replace with the Irish with an opponent of comparable stature.
(Feel free to insert your favorite joke about how Notre Dame really doesn't have the stature everyone assumes. The fact is, the media treats Notre Dame as if they were an elite team, whether they are or not.)
I checked the future schedules on fbschedules.com, of every opponent that could be considered a plausible replacement for Notre Dame. I even checked a few that are marginal, like Syracuse and Pitt. But I didn't check teams like Duke or Louisville that no rational person would consider a like-for-like trade with Notre Dame.
I assumed that no school would agree to schedule Michigan if they already had a tough out-of-conference game scheduled in either or both of those years. For instance, Oklahoma and LSU have a home-and-home scheduled in 2018-19. Scratch both of them off the list. (One of the premium message boards reported this week that Dave Brandon had approached Oklahoma, and was told no thanks, though it didn't say for what years.)
These are the findings:
I. Definitely Unavailable
Oklahoma and LSU (home & home vs. each other)
Texas A&M and Oregon (home & home vs. each other)
Texas (USC, @Maryland in 2018; Notre Dame in 2019)
USC (@Texas in 2018, in addition to the usual Notre Dame h/h)
II. Probably Unavailable
Alabama (hosting Georgia Tech in 2019)
Georgia Tech (hosting Ole Miss in 2018; @Alabama in 2019; plus Georgia h/h)
Stanford (Virginia in 2018; @Northwestern in 2019; plus Notre Dame h/h)
III. Possibly Available
Florida and Florida State (home & home assumed; nothing else scheduled)
Miami (only thing scheduled is Rutgers home & home)
Georgia (only thing scheduled is recurring home & home vs. Ga. Tech)
Syracuse (only thing scheduled is Northwestern in 2019)
IV. No Known Conflicts
Arkansas
Auburn
Tennessee
Virginia Tech
Pitt
UCLA
West Virginia
The open question is whether Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke want to play a September game in an outdoor stadium in the south, where the weather conditions would be in the opponents' favor. If you take the southern teams out of the picture, you're left with teams like Pitt and Syracuse, which many fans would view as being less interesting opponents than Notre Dame.
It is a myth that the SEC schools never play tough out-of-conference opponents. Besides Alabama and LSU (already mentioned above), Tennessee has future home & homes vs. Oklahoma and Nebraska; and Arkansas has both TCU and Texas scheduled.
On the other hand, Georgia never seems to schedule a tough out-of-conference opponent, other than their annual tilt with Georgia Tech. Likewise, Florida seems only to schedule Florida State and occasionally Miami. Auburn is rather timid: a trip to Kansas State is the toughest future game they've scheduled.
Bear in mind that many of these schools could have conflicts due to ongoing negotiations that have not yet become public. And some of them just might not want to play Michigan. So there might be only one or two real options that would strike the average fan as an upgrade over just playing Notre Dame those two years.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:32 PM | 
We need to schedule an EES
We need to schedule an EES
August 30th, 2012 at 1:34 PM |
The lack of optimism in this
The lack of optimism in this
The lack of optimism in this piece makes the PAC 12 deal falling through SO much more disappointing.
"Children need encouragement. If a kid gets an answer right, tell him it was a lucky guess. That way he develops a good, lucky feeling." -Jack Handy
August 30th, 2012 at 1:36 PM |
Georgia
Georgia
Georgia had a home and home scheduled with OSU for approximately those years, but OSU pulled out when the Pac 12 scheduling agreement got made. So Georgia is amenable to playing outside the south.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:36 PM |
Georgia
Georgia
Georgia had a home and home scheduled with OSU for approximately those years, but OSU pulled out when the Pac 12 scheduling agreement got made. So Georgia is amenable to playing outside the south.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:38 PM |
Arkansas would be awesome.
Arkansas would be awesome.
Arkansas would be awesome. I'm here and could both go watch the game AND rag on all the damn SEC/Hog fans. What a glorious two years that would be.
I Live in Razorback country but I will always be a Wolverine!
August 30th, 2012 at 1:43 PM |
Georgia's Non Conference Schedule
Georgia's Non Conference Schedule
Really does suck. Other than the legit #5 Boise St. game last year they have not exactly set out to schedule a challenging NC schedule going all the way back to the mid 00's. Georgia fiends would argue that the SEC is so hard that they shouldn't have to scedule badass NC opponents, but at least we expect Notre Dame to get better at some point with all of their recruiting success and their Touchdown Jesus and their Mike Golic and whatnot.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:53 PM |
The funny thing about that is
The funny thing about that is
The funny thing about that is that Georgia could make that argument about the SEC being tough enough, while Alabama has much tougher schedules, plays anyone anywhere (ex: at Penn State last year), and still wins national titles.
Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail
August 31st, 2012 at 10:55 AM |
Hard schedule?
Hard schedule?
Nobody from Georgia better be complaining about their hard schedule. This year, for the second straight year, they won't play Alabama, LSU, or Arkansas. Take those three teams out and the quality of the remaining SEC opponents looks suspiciously like the ACC - some good teams and some awful teams, and certainly no MNC contenders.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:05 PM |
Wishlist
Wishlist
Would like to see:
Oregon
Stanford
Miami (YTM)
Auburn
Tennesse
Army
OK State
Texas A&M
August 30th, 2012 at 4:09 PM |
Re: OK State and Army
Re: OK State and Army
Oklahoma State has no known conflicts for 2018-19, but based on their known future opponents, it does not appear that they schedule tough games. For instance, this year's OOC slate is Savannah State, Louisiana-Lafayette, and at Arizona. Next year is @Texas-San Antonio and Lamar, with an open date. In 2015, they face the gauntlet of Central Arkansas, Texas-San Antonio, and @Central Michigan.
Army would not be a suitable replacement for Notre Dame. David Brandon can schedule a service academy whenever he wants. Michigan is playing Air Force this year despite having Notre Dame and Alabama on the schedule. It would be good to see Army (whom Michigan hasn't played in years), but it doesn't answer the question of who would be available to replace Notre Dame.
Marc Shepherd
New York, NY
August 30th, 2012 at 2:11 PM |
West Coast
West Coast
I figured after what happened to us in 2000 (lost @ UCLA when Henson was injured and a game-changing pick by Jeremy Le Suer was overturned by a bad call), 2001 (lost @ Washington after Henson went pro early and we had a flukey FG blocked), and 2003 (lost @ Oregon due to weird shenanigans with our punt team and the Ducks playing ninja football in the first half) that Michigan would pretty not consider H&Hs with Pac-10 (now Pac-12) schools again. But hopefully the new regime will reconsider. Lots of Wolverines out here, yo!
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
August 30th, 2012 at 2:12 PM |
Blacksburg Virginia (Virginia Tech) ...
Blacksburg Virginia (Virginia Tech) ...
Blacksburg Virginia (Virginia Tech) average high temperature is 75 in September, Ann Arbor is 74. Sounds like the perfect spot to me.
August 31st, 2012 at 10:00 AM |
Blacksburg...
Blacksburg...
...is a shit hole. No thanks.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:36 PM |
Ucla theres no way we lose
Ucla theres no way we lose
Ucla theres no way we lose
We must not falter! Show strength, show courage, show pride, but show no mercy!
August 30th, 2012 at 2:38 PM |
What advantage does an SEC team have
What advantage does an SEC team have
playing us in the south in September? the temps in September for the south aren't much different than they are here, furthermore, it's not like every kid who plays for Michigan is from Michigan. If you were talking about a game in Alabama in July, I could understand, but come on.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:47 PM |
They'll never agree to it,
They'll never agree to it,
They'll never agree to it, since they refuse to leave their southeastern bubble of comfort, but if we could get Florida up for a game in Ann Arbor, that would be amazing.
I could see Florida State agreeing to a home and home. They've scheduled some good games over the last few years, and have come up to Ann Arbor in the past.
Georgia would be great, too.
Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail
August 30th, 2012 at 2:59 PM |
Florida
Florida
Seriously. They haven't played a non-conference game outside of the state of Florida since 1991.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:01 PM |
Would love to see...
Would love to see...
...Virginia Tech in a home-and-home series since I live in VA. Since my son will be a VT alumnus at that point, he can buy my ticket for the first time ever.
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August 30th, 2012 at 5:05 PM |
Plus Sugar Bowl Rematch
Plus Sugar Bowl Rematch
And it's the closest quality football venue to Charlotte that I haven't been too.
August 30th, 2012 at 4:12 PM |
I agree with Georgia but Tennessee would be even better.
I agree with Georgia but Tennessee would be even better.
A home-and-home involving the two biggest college stadiums in the country (assuming Bryant-Denny, Royal-Texas Memorial or Beaver haven't passed Neyland ... I don't think they have). Texas would also be epic, as would Oklahoma. I think you kind of want the return-away game to be in a setting and capacity on par with the Big House (don't know exactly why, but just seems right) ... but other options could be those schools we've discussed poaching from the ACC into the B1G: North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia Tech.
Really too bad about the Pac 12 agreement getting nixed. Would have liked to see Michigan-Stanford, too. And of course Arizona.
"Is there enough magic out there in the moonlight to make this dream come true?"
August 30th, 2012 at 4:48 PM |
FLORIDA PLEASE
FLORIDA PLEASE
Oh god! Florida please! I would LOVE to see Michigan stomp in the swamp!
Hail.
August 30th, 2012 at 5:21 PM |
West Virginia
West Virginia
We've stolen coaches from them, it'd be nice to beat them twice on the field too.
Arkansas or Auburn would be pretty sweet too, or Georgia. Any SEC team really.
And not as a home and home but as an extra game in one of those years I'd love to see us host Army. My father-in-law went to West Point, it'd be awesome to get the family tix and go to that one.
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August 30th, 2012 at 5:46 PM |
Home and home with PITT would be nice
Home and home with PITT would be nice
may help in recruiting in western PA. PSU typically does well in western PA - and we know that will decline.
Born in Ohio to a Catholic family, but I went Blue
August 31st, 2012 at 9:03 AM |
The new coaching staff hasn't
The new coaching staff hasn't
The new coaching staff hasn't shown as much interest in Pennsylvania as Rodriguez's staff. I'm not sure they would be willing to schedule a game just to boost recruiting in an area they don't recruit...
August 30th, 2012 at 6:42 PM |
arizona we all want it
arizona we all want it
arizona we all want it
September 1st, 2012 at 12:23 AM |
We could definitely play
We could definitely play
We could definitely play Arizona(supposedly they promised Rich Rod a game against Michigan in the near future when they hired him), but that's not a replacement for Notre Dame, and it'd probably be a one time game in Ann Arbor instead of a home and home.
If they're going to add Arizona, I'd rather it be sooner than 2018 to increase the likelihood that Rich Rod is still there. (My guess is he's either fired or leaves for a better job by then.)
August 30th, 2012 at 6:53 PM |
I don't think playing in the
I don't think playing in the
I don't think playing in the South in September is neccessarily much of an advantage for the home team weather-wise. Michigan is usually pretty hot and humid through August as well. However, I would LOVE to see us play a southern team at home in November. It will never happen, but a man can dream.
Hail to the college whose colors we wear,
Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!
August 31st, 2012 at 10:01 AM |
I would love to see...
I would love to see...
Auburn. I'd like to road trip and see the Iron Bowl. And SEC hotties would be a bonus, too.
August 31st, 2012 at 11:54 AM |
I wouldn't mind seeing....
I wouldn't mind seeing....
South Carolina or Clemson. I live in SC now and would love to see the Wolverines down here.
August 31st, 2012 at 2:34 PM |
my wish list
my wish list
usc has to be number 1 since i'm sick of playing them in california.
tennessee, georgia, and florida are also right up there, but i don't think the worst of the oversigners should be rewarded.
stanford, georgia tech, cal, and ucla are probably the next cut for me, as they're all actually good schools.
then arkansas and arizona for the coaches.
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August 31st, 2012 at 7:10 PM |
Georgia
Georgia
I have always thought that we should have a home and home with Georgia. I would really like to see them added to our schedule for those years.
"No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team"
September 1st, 2012 at 1:58 AM |
I wouldn't be suprised if it
I wouldn't be suprised if it
I wouldn't be suprised if it were Tennessee. 2013 they play @Oregon(return trip from their home game in 2010), 2014/15 they have a H/H with Oklahoma, in 2016/17 H/H with Nebraska, and have a H/H with USC in 2021/22. Nobody for 18/19 right now as they had a H/H agreement with Ohio, but Gene Smith pulled out since we were supposed to have a 9 game conference schedule by then. We have only faced them once and they destroyed us, and DB likes revenge games for the "wow factor".
Mississippi St doesn't appear to have any conflicts yet if he is looking to avenge the Gator Bowl loss. Other SEC teams not mentioned above include: Missouri only has @Wyoming for 2018, and is open is 2019; South Carolina open for both '18/'19
Although not SEC, I wouldn't mind seeing Syracuse, in place of a MAC or FCS team. Not gonna lie, that's more for personal reasons since that was my first loss that I saw live at the Big House. They also schedule big name opponents(USC &Missouri this year; Notre Dame from '14-'17) and its been 14 years since this loss, even though we beat them the following year on the road. Also, they gave us Greg Robinson...
We need to schedule an EES EEE SEE team and continue our overall win streak. I'd have to say Georgia is a matchup I'd love to see.