My ND preview: UM Offense

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All right so I am going to start this off by saying 2 things #1 UM’s win over WMU is great for everyone.  ND fans are more excited about this game than before, obviously the entire stadium was rocking with support of UM and the coaching staff and the entire team looked like they were having a great time.  Although everyone on the team didn’t experience last year, it looked like they all came together to put any fears of that repeating fully to bed.  I fully congratulate UM on their win and I mostly wish them success in the future.

 Before we move on to #2 I want to put up this disclaimer: You probably will not like what I am going to post, and I won’t hold it against anyone if it results in some lashing out, I was prepared for that long before I registered.  Also remember that quite a few posters actually requested this write up so here it goes….

#2 ND is going to tear UM's offense apart, too harsh? :).  So if you’re still with me, you would probably ask why is that?  Nevada was a great game for week 1 with their running QB a perfect example of what to expect next week, a prolific running game to test the entire defense against.  Not only did the defense perform well they shut Nevada out.  The ND offense spoke for itself, 500+ yards of total offense, 300+ of it through the air.  It looked like the Hawaii game all over again. If your still still reading, please don't take that statement #2 literally, it was just meant to weed out the undesirables 

Offensive Comparisons:

QBs

ND just faced a more refined, experienced and dynamic QB in Kaepernick, than either Denard or Tate are right now, he is a proven threat anytime he has the ball.  Racking up 2800 yards passing with 22 TDs and another 1300 yds on the ground with 17 more TDs and leading Nevada’s rushing attack to #3 in the nation last season.  ND not only kept him from scoring they held him to 149 in the air and 39 on the ground.  He was sacked 3 times, and pressured every time he tried to throw.

Denard ended the UM game going 2 for 4, both completions were high throws leading to acrobatic catches by receivers and little YAC.  The incompletions were both errant passes, with either the QB or receiver going the wrong direction or the ball being thrown away.  There were also occasions where he didn’t go through his entire sets of reads and took off running before any pressure came, never even seeing open receivers.  It was obvious to me that he wants to run, and doesn’t feel comfortable in the pocket.  That pocket is going to get much smaller next week with a constant pass rush.  Forcier did a much better job passing going 13 for 20.  Taking every pass he attempted in the first half, they were split pretty even with 5 under and another 5 over 15 yards.  The longer passes only produced 2 completions, both of which were TDs with one being an entirely blown assignment by WMU’s D.  The other 3 all fell incomplete with a couple being overthrown or bad route running.  The remaining TD was an absolute thing of beauty, hit the receiver in stride and got 6 out of it.

WMU’s pass rush ran out of gas early in the game for the most part, probably as a result having to cover the scrambling QBs.  ND did a great job keeping after Kaeupernick, there is no reason to think they will suffer the same effects as WMU.  Looking at the QBs alone it seems pretty obvious ND can expect more running from the “QB” position.  Whether the play is designed to be a run or not, both have shown they can scramble very well.  Tenuta blitzes with regularity and both freshman will be feeling pressure all day long.  If the 2s and 3s are in, the blitz still comes. I would expect Denard to be viewed as a RB first and he will be blitzed on regularly as if he is a RB standing behind center.  Forcier will probably get a different look, with his better arm, but there is no doubt Corwin Brown is comfortable leaving our corners on islands forcing teams to pass with 8 to 9 guys in the box.  I think Forcier will see the most time at QB again and Denard will come in on occasion for a change of pace.  Even with Denard’s speed I think he will have the hardest time against our defense with all the pressure he will be feeling.

RBs

With Minor out of commission in week one it will be interesting to see him again a year later.  He will be the wild card on offense, there is no good way to predict how many touches he will get, when in week 1 the RBs only accounted for 28 of the 50 carries.  Will he see more touches being the #1 guy than Brown did?  Won’t be able to answer that till the game is over.  With that said, I expect a lot of run support coming from the safeties with the already mobile QBs when the RBs do get carries you can expect the safeties to be right there.  Taua, Nevada’s #1 RB averaged 6.4 yds/c a year ago, and continued that against ND with 6.3 in week 1.  The majority of his yards came at the end of the game though when the defense was content to keep the clock running.

WRs

This will be an obvious upgrade from Nevada to UM.  I am excited to see what they will do against UM’s receiving corp.  Junior Hemingway is the biggest threat in the passing game and he showed that in week 1.  But unless UM is regularly sending out 2 or 3 WR sets, he is going to be in for a boring day of running.  Our secondary is not only talented but also deep, I counted 4 defended passes during the Nevada game and the 2 interceptions also came from the secondary.  UM did fully prove my skepticism of them using their TEs in receiving wrong.  It will be interesting to see if Koger will be a regular target of the QBs or if he has his best game behind him.  UM would not appear to be as big of a test this week despite the increase in talent, because the majority of offense seems to be focused on the ground; even if that does not continue the ND secondary has shown they’re more than ready.

Oline

UM’s line did a good job of protecting all the passers and opened up running lanes pretty well for the most part.  The WMU Dline and pass rush very obviously ran out of gas in the first half.  Keeping up with the spread, and chasing after the QB really took a toll on them.  The pass rush ND will bring is going to be constant, they blitzed from the first down to the last in week 1, and as guys tire out there is another ready to take his place.  Our LBs and DLineman looked in great shape and there was very little drop off as they rotated through.  The UM Oline will not face a regular pass rush like this all year, it will be a strong test of their strength and stamina, something I look forward to with Barwis’s pedigree behind them.

The Nevada offense overall averaged 2 runs for every pass last season, in week 1 they ended up with a more even distribution with about1:1.  As a comparison UM ended with a 3:10 distribution of pass to run in week 1, which is not surprising as the entire 2nd half came off as “its time to run the clock”. Removing those plays the ratio falls to 1:3 pass:run, which I would expect to be a more ideal distribution.  The increase in run plays will bring the speedier lineman and LBs to the field so don’t expect to see the same guys up front from ND as in the Nevada game.  Denard is fast, but unless he is running down the field he looks hesitant and indecisive, that is what the ND rush will take advantage of.  ND was content with a bend but not break mentality with Nevada, which allowed Kaepernick to turn a scramble into a positive play, while still preventing him from turning an 8 yard play into something more.  UM will be seeing an entirely upgraded defense from the WMU game.  WMU’s secondary was much worse than I expected, the defense overall were bad tacklers, they over-pursued the ball carriers getting themselves out of position and unable to make a play on the ball.  Denard’s big run is the perfect example of it, he ran right at them and they ran right past.  ND showed their disciplined tacklers and that they’re ready to make a play on the ball anywhere on the field, its aggressive and will turn mistakes into points.

Comments

U of M in TX

September 8th, 2009 at 11:56 AM ^

"Not only did the defense perform well they shut Nevada out. The ND offense spoke for itself, 500+ yards of total offense, 300+ of it through the air." The ND defense was impressive, shutting down what was a highly rated offense from a year ago, and that worries me a little (actually more than a little). But the fact that ND put up 500+ yards of offense against the 119th worst defense last year really doesn't concern me. Just as you are arguing that the WMU defense is inferior to the ND defense, I will argue that the Nevada defense is inferior to the UM defense. I can see this game going either direction, but watch out if UM jumps out early. The Big House will be a rockin!

david from wyoming

September 8th, 2009 at 11:57 AM ^

Having an intelligent debate both within and outside of the fanbase on this site is one of the things that makes mgoblog wonderful. If anyone says "shut up Domer" or worse "Notre Lame" I will neg them for all I'm worth. Thanks for your insight Irish. Hearing the opponent's point of view is never a bad thing, even if you end up disagree with it.

Lumpers

September 8th, 2009 at 4:28 PM ^

its nice to have some reasonable debate...i have been on a raging debate all day with one of my best friend who is unfortunately a Domer alum...thank god we went to our first M/ND game together in South Bend in 2006! He still can't live it down, even with last year...remember they were over ranked as usual at #2 before that game....Burgess pick six is burned into my memory banks.....i return the favor in 2011 at the Big House in the new club seats.

octal9

September 8th, 2009 at 11:58 AM ^

for posting a quality diary. Though I may not agree with everything (or even most things!) you have said, this game is going to be one of the most exciting in this Saturday's lineup. +1 to you, and good luck!

MH20

September 8th, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^

ND was up 28-0 at the half. Nevada averaged 5.3 ypc on their 29 rushes. That's not exactly something to hang your hat on. I'll admit I didn't watch the game (I was watching Michigan kick WMU's shit) but, to me, it wouldn't make sense for Nevada to run the ball a lot after being down 4 touchdowns. Please correct me if I am wrong in assuming this. ALSO: Nevada had 119th ranked pass defense in the country (as I noted in forum post) last season and doesn't appear to be any better. So while I know you're excited, I'm not going to get too worried about Clausen's shredding of the Wolfpack secondary. ALSO ALSO: Really, the Hawaii game, too?

Irish

September 8th, 2009 at 12:14 PM ^

I didn't do the math yet but the majority of Taua's carries came in the 2nd half when we were content to keep running clock and take away the pass and big plays. I would be interested to find out how successful they were in the 1st half and may check it out later.

evenyoubrutus

September 8th, 2009 at 12:06 PM ^

something you need to remember: RichRod has a track-record against Tenuta-coached defenses. In two games, his offense has outperformed their season-average. The disturbing one (if I'm an ND fan) is last year's game, when Michigan's offense had no trouble moving the ball and tearing through ND's defense and played arguably their best game in the first half of the season against the Irish. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by this sentence: "But unless UM is regularly sending out 2 or 3 WR sets, [Junior Hemmingway] is going to be in for a boring day of running." Considering Michigan has a SPREAD offense I'm sure they will regularly send out 2 or maybe 4 & 5 WR sets.

Irish

September 9th, 2009 at 8:06 PM ^

Last years game doesn't really concern me at all, the changes to the coaching staff though may appear subtle will have a much bigger influence IMHO. Tenuta is now calling the defensive plays even though it is still Corwin's Defense. The new Dline coach has already impressed the players and the fans. Those changes were self evident in week 1 and will continue throughout the season. I will go back and edit that particular sentence, it doesn't really read the way I intended it to.

Yinka Double Dare

September 8th, 2009 at 12:14 PM ^

Don't read too much into a week 1 Tenuta D performance -- they always look awesome in the first week when he's had a ton of time to prep them. Prep against a team with an established offense and multi-year starter means tons of film to look at and dissect. He's not going to have that this week. I suspect Michigan's offensive line is considerably better than Nevada's. Certainly by talent level it's not even in the same room. And this is still the same personnel Michigan faced last year, the ones that were the only guys Michigan's terrible offense moved the ball on at all in the first half of the year. Tenuta's scheme will help, but Michigan's offense is considerably more experienced than last year's and has more playmakers available than they did then.

Meeechigan Dan

September 8th, 2009 at 12:15 PM ^

If Michigan spreads to the max, how are you going to have blitzers comin every play? Expect Michigan to have five receivers in play, leaving you to go with single coverage just to keep six in the box. Hard to blitz in that situation, unless you leave a receiver uncovered, and I like Tate's ability to sniff that out. ND will be much tougher on D, but don't think the RR is going to play to your strength.

ImSoBlue

September 8th, 2009 at 12:15 PM ^

until all the ND players are writhing around on the ground and throwing up on the carpet. Then we will use our schematic advantage to kick your a--. We will also laugh fiendishly and prepare the game film for the "Yakety Sax" as BG and MM kick "Jimmah" Clauson in the teeth.

bouje

September 8th, 2009 at 12:22 PM ^

Our offense put up big numbers against your team last year - the fumbles and it's a ball game. Keeping in mind that we OBVIOUSLY upgraded pretty much everywhere along the offense?

octal9

September 8th, 2009 at 12:48 PM ^

to agree with this particular statement. A friend of mine (the poor sap is a Florida fan) said to me, he said, "if that game [author's note: '08 capital one bowl] had played out differently, we [Florida] would have won that game." I just stared at him, and blinked a few times before I told him his argument was reducible to "IF WE'D SCORED MORE POINTS THAN YOU, WE'D HAVE WON THAT GAME!!!!" I mean like, duuuuhhhh.

ColoradoBlue

September 8th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^

We sucked beyond recognition last year, yet sliced through your defense in a way that, in retrospect, was mind-boggling (considering we couldn't do that against even Toledo). Our own inability to hang on to the pigskin was a bigger opponent than your defense. You have essentially the same personnel with the same DC (DCs). Your defense has apparently improved (hard not to improve from last year's debacle), but I'd argue that our offense has improved in the same proportion (very conservative estimate). This is a much better reference point that what we each did last week against WAC/MAC teams.

Irish

September 8th, 2009 at 10:44 PM ^

Having a bad run defense last year was not a new occurrence at ND in 08, though it was not expected to still be that poor. When Minor had his coming out party vs. PSU, Mcguffie had very similar stats against ND. McGuffie, 25 carries for 131 yds at ND score 35 to 17 Minor, 23 carries for 117 yds, at PSU score 46 to 17 So 11 points is the difference between complaining that you would have won the game. There was no time during that ND game that UM was in any kind of control. All anyone had after it was all over was to hang on was their comparison of the teams' yards yards.

BlueGoM

September 8th, 2009 at 12:24 PM ^

"ND just faced a more refined, experienced and dynamic QB in Kaepernick, than either Denard or Tate are right now, he is a proven threat anytime he has the ball. " "... more... dynamic ... than ... Denard " ha ha - lol, whut? ND Troll be trollin'

formerlyanonymous

September 8th, 2009 at 12:29 PM ^

Kaepernick is probably the one of the top dual threat QB (not the best, but up there) in the nation based on his career numbers. The guy is a much better passer than Denard or Tate (currently), and is a little bit more mobile than Tate. And this isn't trolling. Like Michigan Monday at ozone, this is a pretty level headed preview from an opposing fan. Definitely is welcome.

Irish

September 8th, 2009 at 12:38 PM ^

Denard's run was extremely impressive, but he is not proven, he showed he can run against a sloppy defense who was out of position and over-pursued him. ND held Kaepernick back by preventing the big play, and not getting out of position. I expect NDs defense to be more stout than WMUs. And when you remove Denard's big run he averaged 3.1 yards per run and went 2/4 for 18 yards. That doesn't make me think dynamic just yet.

BlueChitown

September 8th, 2009 at 1:01 PM ^

It's a statement of fact. Denard's run was awesome, and showed us what happens when he gets into space, and was a great preview of things to come in the future. But you have to remember it came on a busted play. He fumbled the snap and then took off the wrong direction. Talent bailed him out. But we can't expect that every single time.

PhillipFulmersPants

September 8th, 2009 at 10:15 PM ^

"And when you remove Denard's big run he averaged 3.1 yards per run and went 2/4 for 18 yards." But you can't remove it. Remove Barry Sanders' big gains, and he was just an mediocre NFL back. Remove Clausen's 90-yarder to Floyd against Nevada and Clausen has fairly average stats for the day. I'm not picking on you, Irish, because this stuff gets spun from this side too. But arbitrary deletion of a chunk of reality is a house of cards argument. It all counts.

sonofasonofadomer

September 8th, 2009 at 12:43 PM ^

The majority of the MSM (for what that is worth) and sites like Doc Saturday were showering a lot of love on Kapernick (spelling?). I think it is a fair statement that if RR was offered a trade of freshman Tate Forcier for third year Colin in the "offseason" you make that trade in a heart beat. Of course it was only Nevada (just like WMU are not world beaters) but let's try not to fall into the trap that because two freshman quarterbacks have ONE good day (and Denard doesn't make that run against most strong defenses) against WMU that suddenly they are head and shoulders above a third year starter in a prolific offense. Maybe wait until after game two.

bklein09

September 8th, 2009 at 12:31 PM ^

Michigan just faced a more refined, experienced and dynamic QB in Hiller, than Jimmah is right now... Wow, that works both ways I guess?! Trippy huh? I do understand you and a lot of other Irish fans that I have seen on message boards feeling that after two incredible performances against WAC teams, you are going to light Michigan up. And you just may. But I think that looking at the Nevada game and trying to use it as evidence of how you will handle Michigan is not the best way to make your point. First of all this game is at Michigan. Not saying that it will make an enormous difference, but they usually say three points right? Ok. Second of all you are not facing a team that had to travel almost 2,000 miles. Again, not a major point, but something to consider. Third of all, you are talking about a team with WAC talent! Even though Nevada's QB has proven himself to be a great player, he is still surrounded by minimal talent in the same way that Hiller is. Just like ND, Michigan is stocked with 3, 4, and 5 star players who have been developing in an excellent system for how ever many years. Fourth, I just hate the idea that fans on both sides of this game are using their first week opponent (or in ND fans case, last year's Hawaii Bowl) as evidence of absolutely anything. It is ridiculous! Both Michigan and ND played horrible to mediocre first week teams. Yes they both looked good. OK, enough said. To draw comparisons and predictions from those games makes me laugh. I would prefer that fans went back to the last time these teams played if they are trying to make predictions for this week. I think (and let me know if you disagree with this) that it would have been a close game last year if Michigan didn't have the dropsies on kickoffs to start the game. Since that game, I think both teams have improved. How much remains to be seen, but I think the obvious indication from looking at last year's game is that it will be competitive on Saturday unless someone turns it over a huge amount of time. Those are the kind of predictions I feel are fair based on our limited knowledge about these teams. Finally, your quote, "#2 ND is going to tear UM's offense apart, too harsh? :)" sounds like something Lou Holtz or some other "analyst" would say. They say things like this hoping they will be right so they can say they told you so. When and if they are wrong they just don't mention it again and hope that no one notices. I am not saying you are going to be wrong. I actually try to make logical arguments even about a team for which I am clearly biased. I think this game could go either way. I honestly do not know what to expect because I do not think we know how good these teams are. What I want to hear from you Irish is a promise that right or wrong you will be on here next week taking credit for your bold statement of what ND is going to do to us. I just hope you don't go Blount on us if you end up being wrong.

sonofasonofadomer

September 8th, 2009 at 12:35 PM ^

...is this game feels like it matters a little bit again. And it has been some time. There will be some nice storylines nationally leading to some strong build-up. Has Rich Rod turned it around? Was WMU a fluke or foretelling" Will ND's air assault hit the skids or will the Clausen for Heisman campaign launch in the Big House? Will Weis and/or RRod be out if either is blown out? (Weis, I would hope, because he should not be...argh). If ND gets out ahead I think the irish take this one this year, in a SEMI-comfortable fashion. If it is tight, or Michigan has a huge kickoff return for TD, etc to jump out, it will be decided late in the 4th. Right now (I am an ND fan) I give the edge to ND's O against the UM secondary. Clausen, Tate, Floyd and Rudolph are the strongest unit when comparing both teams, and the one place where there is (on paper at least) the most obvious difference between the two teams. Many UM fans are looking at last year's game as a barometer of UM's success for this years, and ND's struggles, but with a hurricane deluge the second half and ND up early I think there is little if anything either team will carry over from last year's game. Clausen is much better, UM is a full year into their new system (new QBs) which is an improvement. I am looking forward to the game.

BleedingBlue

September 8th, 2009 at 12:36 PM ^

"UM would not appear to be as big of a test this week despite the increase in talent, because the majority of offense seems to be focused on the ground" I'm not sure what your thinking is here. I guess play-calling, but Tate threw for 3 touchdowns. I realize that the yardage is skewed to the run-game, but late in the first half it was split almost exactly at 150-150 yards pass-run. I think there were also several pass-plays called that ended up being runs because Denard and Tate pulled it down and took off.

cbuswolverine

September 8th, 2009 at 12:40 PM ^

"He was sacked at least 3 times" If you're going to take the time to type all of this up, is it that difficult to do the tiny bit of research required to find these numbers? Your defense had two sacks Saturday, not "at least three."

Erik_in_Dayton

September 8th, 2009 at 12:45 PM ^

...I'm not overly worried about what they did to Nevada's defense, though ND obviously has a lot of talent on offense. What impressed me was their defense, which sure seems to have improved. ND should be the favorite heading into the game - I have no problem with that.

Onas

September 8th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^

They're both pretty crappy. Nevada went 7-6 last year and actually lost to that terrible Hawaii team that Irish fans are hanging their hats on. WMU went 9-4, but only 1-5 versus teams with winning records in 2008 and then lost most of their receivers and defense. I'm hoping that Notre Dame is feeling pretty confident about their two-game winning streak.

Slinginsam

September 8th, 2009 at 1:05 PM ^

If there is a deciding factor, ND's starting 22 is slightly older than Michigan's, and has more game experience. But I agree with the poster who said that last year's game is probably the barometer for measuring up these two squads. A close game beckons.

victors2000

September 8th, 2009 at 1:19 PM ^

Dude, first of all thank you for spending the time to do this write up, I think all of us here who dabble at Mgoblog appreciate hearing from the opposing fans as long as it's constructive. Thanks about the WMU comments, yes we do feel good about the future and look forward to a grand contest with your fine team. Thank you for your disclaimer, I myself appreciate your sensitivity on this topic, and while I haven't the time to adequately provide a response, I will simply say may the best team win! Go Blue!!!

jsquigg

September 8th, 2009 at 1:35 PM ^

Michigan's secondary is the key to a UM victory. I think this will be a close game, but as others have said, it would be premature to say Notre Dame's offense will rip UM's offense apart. Michigan's offense is similar, but with Tate in the game there are some fundamental differences between Michigan and Nevada's offenses. Our offensive line against the Notre Dame defensive line will be the key when Michigan is on offense, and Notre Dame won't shut Michigan out this week. I have confidence in Rodriguez's offensive game plan, but our secondary scares the crap out of me, especially if we can't pressure Clausen.

Irish

September 8th, 2009 at 2:24 PM ^

Don't take any of my posts with a :) near them to heart. I am either making a joke or being sarcastic and that statement in particular should not be taken too seriously by anyone who is actually interested in something I am saying, like yourself. The trenches could very well be where the game is won or lost, keeping containment on the speedy QBs for us along with giving Clausen a strong pocket to pass from will both be important for ND to be successful in this game.

Hannibal.

September 8th, 2009 at 1:56 PM ^

Tenuta can blitz all he wants. That's what he did last year and Michigan exploited it constantly. The guy is totally overrated as a DC. He is sort of another Jim Hermann. I want to see Michigan's O-line improve from the first game. WMU is expected to have a pretty bad defensive front and our longest run by a non-QB was only 12 yards.