My All M Team.

Baas was a center when he was at M.

Rod Payne was an All-American center in 1996 I believe.

And I really don't think Ernest Shazor was any good. Freakishly athletic, yes, in a Taylor Mays kind of way, but absolutely awful on deep coverages. Here's my opinion on Michigan safeties: we had an All-American safety, once, and he played WR. His name was Jason Avant. (I vaguely recall Ron English echoing this sentiment once)

Rod Payne!

Yeah, I echo the Marcus Ray comment....he should be on your list ahead of Shazor. ES was a little boom or bust, compared to the steady playmaking of Ray.

Now, are you older than 20? If so, your safeties should be Vada Murray and Tripp Welbourne. Best safety duo I have seen play for UM in my 30+ years of watching.

As far as center, Payne is a great choice.....but again, if you're older than 20, you've got to put Steve Everit or John Vitale (R.I.P.) in the team photo.

what about harmon, oosterbaan, and the 38th president? and how can AC and desmond be left off??

Payne was not as good as Steve Everitt. He's the long-haired freak that still comes to a lot of games. Everitt roke his jaw against ND in 1991 and missed maybe one game. He was the best center of my recollection.

The LB corp you put up is less than ideal. i would take Gold or Dhani over Foote.

Steele and messner need to be on the DL. The WRs: AC and Braylon are 1 and 1a with Desmond #3.

I'll have to think about QB for a bit.

One the whole, not too bad for someone who is likely pretty young.

Carson Butler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerame Tuman

I challenge all of you to create an All M Team comprised of Michigan players (current and former) that have an "M" in their name.

Two other ones. Your choices for RB are good, as they are probably the two best RBs since the Jamie Morris. But Biakabatuka was really a one year wonder in 1995 (he got some nice yards filling in for an injured Wheatley, but his season was 1995). Wheatley was a freak. I am terribly biased, but he was in the same category for me as Bo Jackson, incredibly fast and had enough power to plow through guys in the secondary. I would put him #1.

And Hayden Epstein was not very good. The kid had a monster leg, but he was very inconsistent. There are a number of kickers I would put ahead of him. Mike Gillette (he was the athletic kicker before the Space Emporer -- see his fake punt for a TD against MSU in 1988 as I recall), Remy Hamilton, Rivas, Jay Feeley, and The Sheik were all substantially better than Epstein.

is amazing. Nice job on the All M's team!

Funny I was just thinking of posting this yesterday but the OP beat me too it.....Since we do not have a bowl game this year, this is what we talk about:

QB -- Rick Leach, Jim Harbaugh, Brian Griese

(apologies to Brady, but Griese won a NC. No way Henne gets in there with all of his many losses as a starting QB...honorable mention to Elvis Grbac... no way Henson gets on this team based on 8 games as a starter)

RB -- Ty Wheatley, Anthony Thomas, Jamie Morris
(Biakabatuka on the bench but ready to come in to the game)

WR -- Anthony Carter, Braylon Edwards, Desmond Howard
(on the bench: Tai Streets, Amani Toomer, David Terrell)

TE -- Doug Marsh (got to go back to the 70s for that one), Tony McGee, Jeremy Tuman

RT - Dan Dierdorf, Mike Kenn
LT - Jake Long, Greg Skrepenek, Bubba Paris
LG - Steve Hutchinson, Jon Jansen (moved over from tackle)
RG - Jon Runyan (moved from tackle), Stefan Humphries
C - Rod Payne, David Baas, Steve Everitt

Juggled the linemen a bit so they all fit in.

Kicker - Mike Gilette, Ali Haji Sheik

Offensive coordinator - Gary Moeller

Defense to come later

Mark Messner played DL, not OL

If we're talking all-time Michigan teams, you have to seriously consider Butch Woolfolk at starting RB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNZppdU42QU