Michigan, Rodriguez, change, and a stubborn fan base

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Preface: Opinions are like @$$holes; everyone has one, they all stink, and once it is a part of you, it requires surgery to remove. I will be the first to acknowledge that this includes the following piece. This is my opinion and many will disagree. That said, perhaps it will also bring forth the passion I feel for the University as a whole. I did not attend it, but hope to at some point for my Master's degree.

To the mods: This being my first diary, I have no idea if this is where this is supposed to go, or if something like this should be relegated to MGoBoard instead.  I will leave this up to your discretion and am open to any insight you might have regarding this.

I became physically sick watching all this unfold. No matter how many relevant facts or figures you bring out of your arsenal, it has become, in essence, a religious or political argument. It has degenerated into blind insults among friends and family, "pundits" with a national outlet spouting whatever will get them the best ratings, a fan base that eats it up, witch hunts, mob mentality, and 2 sides that think the other one has their head firmly planted up their @$$es.

First, let me get this out there. Harbaugh, or anyone in his mold, will mean another 3-5 year crater/nuclear winter in the program (which is about 2 years longer than some of our fans have been willing to wait as it is). That's almost a guarantee because of the system he runs in relation to the one in place. That seems to get lost or just doesn't matter to those that can't see the looming forest for the trees a foot in front of their face. To me this represents who want Rodriguez gone because "he's not a Michigan man". Here's what I don't understand about that argument. Bo didn’t start as a Michigan man either. Bo was an Ohio State/Miami man. Crisler didn’t start as a Michigan man. He was a Minnesota and Princeton man. Yost didn’t start as a Michigan man. He was a Stanford, Kansas, Ohio Wesleyan, Nebraska, San Jose State man. They became Michigan men because they were allowed to implement the changes they wanted. They were allowed to implement changes that often flew in the face of whatever had come before them. And they did this without an entire section of a fan base crawling up their proverbial @$$es at every turn because "that's not the way it was done before".

Fear of change is paralyzing. However, just because something worked in the past does not indicate future success. This is a well known and regularly proven fact that manifests itself in many different areas of life on a daily basis. In fact, a lack of change often means the death knell for organizations that once thought themselves invincible and impervious to entropy over any lengthy period of time.

If, as a loyal follower of this institution, you truly believe Michigan is the leader and best, that also means the existence of an inherent willingness to take risks and chances where others don't have the stomach or intestinal fortitude to see it through. You do it in the face of adversity, criticism, and anything else the opposition can throw at you. In the case of this team, you do it in spite of a portion of your team's fans.

We sit at our computers and challenge a coach from a distance behind anonymity because we don't like him, and he isn't what we're used to, and insert reason here we can come up with and then point to and cling to the past like an overused security blanket that's disintegrating in our hands. Or we hold true to our new coach because we see improvement and signs of life and something we find fun to watch for a change. We stick up for him when he is attacked, fairly or not, because we see something worth defending when all is said and done. And we want to succeed by exhibiting patience because we feel we're better than that as a fan base. Or perhaps we just don't want to be the next Notre Dame, a program wallowing in insecurity and fading into irrelevance because they try to please everyone instead of just taking someone's vision and sticking with it until it has run its course. As a side note, I believe Notre Dame's coaches have been as guilty of this as their administration has.

I am willing to take the small risk of alienating some of you right here.  But allow me this statement that may seem obvious, but for the sake of this piece is important to mention.  The Bo era is dead just like Crisler's and Yost's. It was wonderful, but it is over and gone. Not only that, I believe it should stay over and gone. As much good as it brought us, by the end, products of the Bo era brought us The Horror and embarrassing losses to "new fangled" offenses that we, more often than not, were unable stop, even with All-American talent on the team. It had run its course and was becoming an inbred mess that could not possibly continue to be sustained without program-destroying ramifications. Change was on the horizon whether we wanted it or not. It was a matter of "when", and no longer an "if".

Frankly, the best coaches at Michigan have been the ones that realized the old system was slightly (or very) outdated. They were ahead of the curve in offense or defense and brought the other side of the ball along for the ride until they could match the production of the aspect of the game they knew best. They saw the inherent growing weaknesses of the previous systems and said, "I can do this better."

[EDIT: Warning.  What I am about to say will be considered by most to at first be some sort of blasphemy.  If you follow the logic to the end, I hope you will see I am in no way making a comparison based on current record, but on attitude and future potential]

Keeping that in mind, I posit this. Rich Rodriguez IS Bo Schembechler. He IS Fritz Crisler. He IS Fielding Yost. He has proven that he can win with great regularity when he's given time, resources, and support. And he's done this in multiple locations that weren't historical powers in college football. He is an innovator in a sport that doesn't have too many of them left, just like all of those great coaches we've looked so fondly upon for over a century. He is a representative of the next big change in college football.

Using that parallel as the premise then, what would Bo think of Rodriguez? If he was half the coach we all thought him to be (and I believe he was that and then some), it is my opinion that he would see the innovation and promise the future held and be excited by it. He would see a marketing cash cow in the making that would profit the University he devoted a large part of his life to. He would see new interest in attendance for a university with the proudest in academic tradition.  He would look at all of you tearing at the foundations of the love of his life and probably tell you to go to hell if you aren't willing to stick it out with us. Why? Because Bo understood something few will ever grasp. He understood change was not only inevitable, but that those who adapt first are in prime position for continued success. He understood sacrificing in the short term for the sake of long term dividends. He understood myopia and constant gazing into the past leads to walking off the edge of so many cliffs we might encounter along the way. And he understood that if the fan base clung to him instead of the University, it would mean the end of it all when he was gone. That was why Bo was great. He understood that the good of the University was always the most important thing and he put that mantra into everything he did.

I want the "next thing" not because it's shiny and new. I want it because I want the continued success it has been proven to bring. I want teams to fear us again. As some of you know, I live in Columbus, and people are actually beginning to be frightened of Michigan's offense. Even here, they understand that when this offense gets a defense that's even mediocre, Michigan will be a name they fear every year, and that when the defense becomes good again, this rivalry may become as one sided as it currently is but in our favor. Around here, they have almost no faith that "The Vest" can stop our offense with anything resembling consistency. That is the right direction. I want the next thing, and to me, the next thing is Rodriguez, slowly and surely, improving in the face of scrutiny and adversity. I want the team I see every Saturday, growing up on the field, as my team.

My team that hasn't fractured in spite of the fan base that has. My team whose dilithium-based offense calls the worst defense, statistically speaking, in the history of our program the best defense they've faced all year. My team that says it convincingly enough that I have no choice but to believe it, regardless of what I've seen with my own eyes. My team whose backup didn't transfer because he knew he would be needed in a big way and became the biggest cheerleader on the sideline every week. My team who rallied behind one of their own and his brother who is going to walk again despite what science and medicine have told him. My team whose coach cares more about the health of his players than his own job. My team with fun fingerstaches, Donald Duck impressions, polo shirt/tie/nerd glasses ensembles at pressers, and a genuine sense of love that emanates from them and is infectious.

You want "the team, the team, the team"? Sit down with a pen and some paper and take notes, because the embodiment of that principle Bo instilled in all of us has played football every Saturday this fall wearing Maize pants, Blue jerseys, and wing-tipped helmets. And the coach that has made that happen is no longer Bo, or anyone in his coaching tree. To say that Rodriguez doesn’t understand Michigan tradition is preposterous.  He's recreated the very best Michigan tradition there is, and he's done it in the worst possible surrounding circumstances. And he's done it despite those who have been too busy looking for ways to get rid of him to notice it.

Most of all, I believe wholeheartedly that this fan base NEEDS the next thing, because just like the Motor City itself, holding on to the past turns you into a dinosaur that can't keep up anymore. And watching this possibly die at the hands of those who just can't let go of the past is painful. Take a drive 45 minutes east from Ann Arbor and see the remains of what was once a great empire that thought itself invincible if you need proof. Clinging to the past doesn't honor a great coach. Clinging to the past in spite of all the evidence that an overhaul is needed is nothing but fear of the unknown. It slowly and brutally takes everything he loved and built through years of hard work and crumbles it to dust.

Comments

TennBlue

November 25th, 2010 at 12:08 AM ^

for you that using the term "fanboy" to describe a group is intended to be derogatory and diminutitve, the exact opposite of what you would be trying to do if you desired to show respect for alternative viewpoints, as you do not seem to be aware of this.    You are doing the exact thing you accuse those who disagree with you of doing.  That makes you a trolling hypocrite, and one not worthy of holding a civilized discussion with.

Thank you, and good day.

Mirasola

November 25th, 2010 at 12:19 AM ^

I was making an observation.  Sorry you disagree with me, but there are plenty of fanboys.  It's a negative connotation in that some people here automatically praise the positive and neg the negative.  There's no other way for me to put this that would make anyone see any differently, so I give up either way.  Maybe I am a "trolling hypocrite".

JamieH

November 25th, 2010 at 1:31 AM ^

Ok, let's play a game.  I'm going to claim that Mark Dantonio is Fielding H. Yost & Bo Schembechler combined.  I mean, he's 10-1 this year and he's all awesome and stuff, right?

Do you have to respect that opinion?  Of course you don't because it is ridiculous.  In fact, I'd think less of you if you did respect an opinion that silly.

Respect for your opinions is earned by making thoughtful considered points that are worthy of said respect.   Not by claiming that a guy who isn't even .500 at your school is one of the greatest coaches in college football history just because you happen to like him.

Like I said, you can go a long way towards supporting Rodriguez without claiming he is Fielding H. Yost.  Perhaps before Rodriguez is annointed as one of the greatest coaches in Michigan football history he should, you know, actually WIN something here?

JamieH

November 24th, 2010 at 11:45 PM ^

Let's see.  You have a diary comparing a coach that is 15-20 at Michigan to the 3 greatest coaches in Michigan history, guys who are among the greatest coaches in COLLEGE FOOTBALL history.

Then you see a stream of comments like "best post ever!" and "front page material!"

I think "fanboys" sums it up pretty nicely.  In fact, he's being pretty kind, because he could have described it in much harsher terms.

There is a pretty large line between "supporting  your coach" and claiming he is freakin' Fielding H. Yost.

CompleteLunacy

November 25th, 2010 at 1:11 AM ^

but "fanboys" is derogatory and a bad generalization. You are implicitly saying Window-users (i.e. anti-RR faction) are the rational people. And saying all Mac users (RR-supporters) just LOOOOOVE Macs to death and would FIGHT EVERYONE TO THE DEAT if they say otherwise. How is that a fair observation, again?

BTW, I'm writing this on my Macbook. It's a fine laptop. It's not perfect (has had some internet issues and other minor quibbles), but overall it's a fine machine. I also have a dual-screen desktop PC with Windows on it. So what does that make me? 

This is why generalizations are always bad. 

Mirasola

November 25th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^

I wasn't saying all Apple owners are fanboys (I also have a Macbook), just like not all Michigan fans are fanboys.  I'm simply pointing out that there are some, who think it's blasphemous to speak anything negative about what they love.

And on the other side of the spectrum, there are Windows fanboys (or people who want to fire RR with seemingly no good reason).  And here lies the problem.  Anyone who says on here that RR should be fired, even if they have sensible reasons and explanations, is said to be on this side of the spectrium - "ignorant", "misinformed", or "not a real fan".  Meanwhile, anyone who gives praise is a true Michigan man and knows all about the program.  You can't say you haven't seen this in threads.

CompleteLunacy

November 25th, 2010 at 1:06 PM ^

Honestly I think this is starting to turn into politics. There is no middle ground, or at least it doesn't seem like there is. But I wager most sane posters on this board are in teh middle somewhere...as I am, and I'm sure as you are. I'm not sold on RR yet, but neither do I want him fired or believe he's been here long enough to fully evaluate him. The progress is good and there, but the problems are also there and very troubling. Which one wins out? We don't know yet, and that's why I think it would be a shame if we let go of RR now, even though Harbaugh is out there and is the hot name in available coaching right now.

Michichick

November 26th, 2010 at 6:55 PM ^

We don't have to be 100% behind the program at all times.

If you are a Michigan fan, you are 100% behind the program 100% of the time. If you're not behind the program 100%, then what the hell are you doing here? You can question the direction of the program, you can disagree about personnel, coaching, schemes, recruiting, etc., but those are the constituent parts of the program, which is the whole.

Old School Wolverine

November 24th, 2010 at 11:56 PM ^

I thought Rodriguez may have made it at first... but he blew it...he really dropped the ball. The defense is so bad it is unacceptable...and after three years no less.  He had his chance and failed, plain and simple.     And to say Rodriguez is Bo, Fritz, Yost,   and the same time mention Harbaugh in your piece, well.....that is just blasphemy.  Fact is...it is most likely HARBAUGH that is the people you mentioned.

Broken Brilliance

November 25th, 2010 at 12:16 AM ^

I agree with everything you've said here. The ignorance of some RR-detractors is ridiculous....I wish I could make this required reading for some of the hopeful fans out there who don't visit mgoblog and only hear the shit being spewed by the detroit media...

 

and cue the DERP Sharks

Tater

November 25th, 2010 at 12:28 AM ^

I became physically sick watching all this unfold.
I'm with you. I felt my stomach churning while listening to callers on WTKA on the internet this morning and had to turn down the volume until some of them finished. I guess some of them forget that RR is the main reason why college football has changed so much in the last ten years. Funny how selective the memory of some "fans" can be.

BLUEFBFAN

November 25th, 2010 at 12:55 AM ^

There is alot of people who are pulling for RR and want him and team to succeed. Don't want to see him fired and willing to give him another year. There is plenty of noise on the radio that is dominating the airwaves that wants to see him gone,but there are plenty that want him to stay. They just want this defense fixed like yesterday.

jmblue

November 25th, 2010 at 1:05 AM ^

First, let me get this out there. Harbaugh, or anyone in his mold, will mean another 3-5 year crater/nuclear winter in the program (which is about 2 years longer than some of our fans have been willing to wait as it is). That's almost a guarantee because of the system he runs in relation to the one in place.

I'm not sure why people assume Harbaugh would try to shoehorn our offensive players into a pro-style system.  In his short head coaching career, he's proven himself adaptable.  At San Diego, he ran a spread offense.  At Stanford, he runs more of a pro-style, because that's what his personnel is suited for.  (Even then, Luck does carry the ball from time to time - he has around 400 rushing yards.)  Hey, I like RR and am hoping against hope that he wins on Saturday.  But if he's let go and Harbaugh replaces him, don't expect doomsday. 

Ice

November 25th, 2010 at 1:07 AM ^

This site is either, "RAH RAH RAH" or "DERP DERP DERP". It has officially become MLive on MGoBoard and the main page. I guess all good things come to an end. Michigan football is the best example.

JamesBondHerpesMeds

November 25th, 2010 at 1:53 AM ^

up until you made the slight backhanded comment about Detroit at the end.  Sorry, but I just get riled up when people harp on the city's sustained downfall and make no mention of the revitalization it's currently experiencing.

ok, back to football: screw you, justin boren.

tlh908

November 25th, 2010 at 2:39 AM ^

The last paragraph got me. I grew up in Northville with a dad you worked for the big 3. That was good money in '70s to the '90s but he lost a lot of money thinking they would rise again. I moved on and found really green pastures in a state next door without trying to replay the '70s. Same with football, every college wants a top ten program today and it doesn't build itself overnight. This isn't the '70s were you could simply outspend other colleges. We wanted cutting edge and got RR. I am willing to invest another year waiting for the results of a full class.

BlueCheez

November 25th, 2010 at 6:20 AM ^

RR needs to win 9 games in year 4, 10 the year after and then sustain it.Its been a slow and often painful rebuild but he's on the right track.Please beat OSU this saturday to kill all the noise about Harbaugh.

dearbornpeds

November 25th, 2010 at 7:27 AM ^

     I read and hear impassioned arguments on both sides and I am left dazed and confused.  I don't know which side is correct (or even if either one is).  There is no debate re: the overall record, the conference record, or our performance against our two main rivals.  We can argue all day about the cupboard being bare, poor recruiting, poor retention, NCAA violations, and weak vs. strong conferences.

     There are certain facts that are indisputable:

1.  Bo walked into a program that already had excellent talent and leadership.

2.  We used to dominate a conference that was comprised of TWO major football programs and the little eight.

3.  We rarely contended for a national championship because of early season losses, losses to tOSU, or New Year's Day heartaches.

4.  Our bowl record under Bo was abysmal.

     I was among those who called for change and was thrilled when rr came to Ann Arbor.  I still believe he can deliver if given the opportunity. Let's not forget that Alabama wanted him before they hired Saban.  What worries me is the accumulation of problems that may prove too much to overcome.  The vitriol of angry M fans and the ongoing drumbeat from the local pseudojournalists has to effect recruiting and this is ultimately the lifeblood of any program.

     I am impressed with the cohesiveness of the team and the maturity of its leaders.  They have not fractured nor given up on the year.  This speaks to quality coaching.  We have all seen how rr put the health of his players ahead of short term gains on field.  I personally know of situations where he has reached out to non-football playing fans who have suffered personal losses.  These stories do not appear in that trashy morning tabloid.

     The past three years have been painful to watch but I see a glimmer of hope.  We need to stay the course, make necessary adjustments, and let the professionals do their jobs.  Those who stay (with rr) will be champions.

jim48315

November 26th, 2010 at 5:42 PM ^

There are certain facts that are indisputable:

1.  Bo walked into a program that already had excellent talent and leadership.

Yes and no.  Jim Mandich and Tom Curtis were returning all conference lettermen.  But many of the 1968 starters graduated.  Dierdorf was not a 5 star recruit (neither MSU nor OSU offered him a scholarship).  Reggie McKenzie was not highly regarded as a freshman.  Don Moorehead, Henry Hill, Barry Pierson, Marty Huff, Dick Caldarazzo, Garvie Craw, etc. were not future NFL players.  Bo and his staff had a lot to do with making them good football players.

2.  We used to dominate a conference that was comprised of TWO major football programs and the little eight.

Yes, and the same smart alecks who wrote that had previously written of Oklahoma and the Seven Dwarves.  The Purdue teams with Mike Phipps, Gary Danielson, and Mark Herrmann were dangerous opponents.  So were many of MSU's teams (Muddy Waters and John L. were far in the future).  Hayden Fry had some very tough Iowa teams.  Tony Dungy was a very good player at Minnesota in the early 70s.  Michigan and Ohio State were at the top, true, but they had to work hard to stay there.  And there were some serious non-conference foes in those days.  Texas A&M was well regarded, and Bo's boys beat the Curtis Dickey-George Woodard-Tony Franklin team 41-3.

3.  We rarely contended for a national championship because of early season losses, losses to OSU, or New Year's Day heartaches.

We didn't win a national championship because of some of those things.  Bo's teams finished in the top 10 16 of 21 years, including ten in a row (1969-1978), with a #2,  two #3, two  #4, one #5, and two #6 finishes.  I call that being in contention for a NC.

4.  Our bowl record under Bo was abysmal.

Granted, 5-12 is not a good winning percentage.  And I won't argue with those who say that there are no good losses.  But of those 12 losses, none were by more than 8 points.  Eight  were to teams in the top 5, three of them teams which won or shared that season's NC.  Twice the losses were the consequence of first half crippling injuries to Michigan's QBs (Lawrence Taylor took out John Wangler's knee in the '79 Gator Bowl;  Steve Smith was hurt early in the 1983 Rose Bowl).   In Bo's first bowl game he himself was in the hospital, and the team played with a marked air of depression and sadness, and even then gave up only 10 points to a #3 USC team chock full of eventual NFL talent.

"Abysmal" is a word for the debacle versus Tennessee (17-45), the Horror, the 2007 Oregon game, and too many games in the most recent three seasons.  The last three seasons are the only ones in the last 40 in which a Michigan team has been regarded before and during any given game as having zero chance to win.  Tressel is 5-1 against Lloyd, but all of the games (except perhaps the '07 game, where it was obvious Michigan had no offense), were games, not  exhibitions where OSU was so dominant it appeared it could name the final score whenever it chose to do so.  It has reached the point where Ohio State fans don't get excited about the game.

What's going to affect recruiting is being an embarrassment game after game.  However much Michigan's fanbase and alumni love Michigan and its traditions, a teenager in Ohio or the South won't value it any more than the average reader of this blog values the merits of reading Homer in the original Greek.  And those same teenagers aren't going to be impressed by a lack of criticism on message boards or local newspapers.  If RR keeps losing, it's going to get harder, not easier, to get athletes to come to a place they'll regard as cold, gloomy, and far from home.

RowoneEndzone

November 25th, 2010 at 7:38 AM ^

Excellent and very well written.  You have said in one essay what many of us have written in broken sentences and short posts for the past 2 years.  Nice diary.  Happy Thanksgiving.

JFW

November 25th, 2010 at 8:11 AM ^

stop insinuating that if you don't think RR is the best choice for the long term future of the program, you aren't really supporting the team? Its silly. 

I don't think he is. I'll support him while he's here (I'd love to win at OSU, and I think he'll be here next year and I'd love to see wins over OSU, MSU, and Wisconsin while cruising to a Rose Bowl). But my feeling of the program and of him as a coach is that he isn't the best direction for us. Stating that doesn't make me less of a supporter of Michigan football. 

Those who ripped LC for the last few years of his job, some of whom are ardent RR supporters, certainly didn't see themselves as bad fans at the time. 

So, in short. Go Blue. Beat OSU. I'll be cheering for you and will take crap from my OSU friends if you lose. But I think Harbaugh is a better, more versatile coach who can adjust his style to what he has. Harbaugh isn't magic, and his being an alum is just a plus. So I'm not hidebound to the past, I simply think he would be the best coach available. 

RR has a great offense, but he doesn't seem to have a great balance. Too much is sacrificed to the offense in way of scholarships and coaching attention. So I think it will lead to an unbalanced program that goes through peaks and valleys in the future.

 

Flame on.

Soulfire21

November 25th, 2010 at 5:41 PM ^

I know a few Michigan fans rooting for Ohio State this week because they want Rodriguez gone.  In fact, they didn't want Michigan to win 6 games this year so Rodriguez would be gone.

Pardon my French, but what the fuck fan roots for the team to lose?

WFBlue

November 25th, 2010 at 9:05 AM ^

I really don't understand the impatience I see with those who want to dump RR at this point.  Is it an American thing where we have to have "instant pudding" with everything in our lives.  Anything worth achieving takes effort and usually time, lots of it.  Is it painful to watch, yes, but three years (even four or five) is not that long to wait, as long as we are improving.  We are improving and the worst thing we could do would be to start over just as we are reaching the tipping point.

 

Without adversity there is no greatness.

alfamagnate

November 25th, 2010 at 10:10 AM ^

This has to be the dumbest article I have read on reasons to keep RR. It's the same dumb logic people use as to why they should keep pouring money into a junk car instead of buying a newer one. We have so much money in the car, let's just put a little more in and hopefully this will be the last repair.  Keeping RR is like pouring money into a junker. This team will be 7-5 forever under RR and will never beat PS, Iowa, OSU or WIS. Get rid of the this clown and cut the loses now. We need a new car.

jsto

November 25th, 2010 at 7:31 PM ^

The old car in your analogy would probably be the end of the Lloyd Carr-era teams that consistently underperformed, couldn't beat ohio state, and had trouble stopping spread teams (even with great players filling the defensive roster.) The RR era is more like trying to build a new car from scratch. Do I think the performance of the defense has been horrible? Yeah. Has the offense made significant improvements? Yes. Has their record improved every year? Yes. You have provided no evidence to the contrary other than 'this has to be the dumbest article I have read,' and a poorly constructed analogy. The pattern over the past three years suggests they will be better than 7-5, but you're right, they could be no better than 7-5 next year. Then fire him and find someone else. I honestly don't know whether they will be better than 7-5 next year, but I think it is worth it to stick with him and see if he incrementally improves like he has in the last 3 seasons.

Ernis

November 25th, 2010 at 10:28 AM ^

Anyone who has read "Bo's Lasting Lessons" and has also done their homework on how RR runs his program will see the obvious parallel between Bo and RR.

One thing that I didn't like about LC --and on the whole I liked him as a coach, a person, and spokesman for the team-- is that he made exceptions for certain players. If you were a senior, you could get to start even if you had demonstrated an inability to perform (e.g. Chad Henne vs. OSU in '07). Star talent that broke the rules went unscathed, such as when Manningham got benched for a game while Johnny Sears was the sacrificial lamb, for doing the exact same thing. Once you start treating some players differently, you have set upon the inexorable path of implosion. It engenders a sense of entitlement among the hand-picked privileged, and a sense of resentment among the rest. It is deleterious to team cohesion. Bo spoke about this at length, and it is a well-known phenomenon to successful leaders.

It took a lot of guts for RR to start Robinson over Forcier this year. He made his decision based on the best interests of the team, and it was the right thing to do. It took guts to boot Cissoko off the team, and it was the right thing to do. Doesn't matter if you are the star or a senior. If you don't do your best, your starting spot is at risk; if you don't put the interests of the team before your own, you might not be around for very long; and if you f*ck up with the law or team rules, your goose is cooked. The way he manages his team, more than anything, gives me confidence in the future of Michigan football.

Bo once famously said to his team, "I'm going to treat you all the same -- LIKE DOGS!" Perfect.

DGlenn26

November 25th, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^

First, Henne was hurt for the 07 OSU game. Second, it took no guts to kick Cissoko off the team, the kid had a coke problem. Last, and I say this not as indictment against RR but simply as a statement of fact, if you think Bo's Lasting Lessons was nothing but a book saying why RR should coach Michigan, then you missed the chapters where Bo talks of how you shouldn't hire the guy who would bolt from his alma mater, how you should hire from within and where Bo goes to a coaching conference featuring an innovative offense and ends up walking out when the coach proclaims that the scheme was great but the teams record wasn't so great due to lack of execution.

MightAndMainWeCheer

November 26th, 2010 at 12:39 AM ^

you missed the chapters where Bo talks of how you shouldn't hire the guy who would bolt from his alma mater, how you should hire from within and where Bo goes to a coaching conference featuring an innovative offense and ends up walking out when the coach proclaims that the scheme was great but the teams record wasn't so great due to lack of execution.

Bo bolted Miami of Ohio to coach Michigan.  He wasn't hired from within either.  He even almost left Michigan to coach Texas A&M.  Thankfully he didn't.

Secondly, Bo went to a coaching conference featuring an "innovative DEFENSE", not offense.  The coach was asked why his team gave up so many yards and points; the coach replied that the scheme was great but his team was bad at tackling.  Bo was coming off of a down year and hearing this new scheme made him question whether the game had passed him by.  Upon hearing this coach's response, he resolved to re-emphasize fundamentals rather than changing his entire defense.  It worked out for him as the next season was very successful.

I'm not sure how either of those stories negatively reflects upon RR (especially the part about the innovative defense).

ToledoBlue

November 26th, 2010 at 7:38 AM ^

I agree mostly with this statement. The only argument with Henne is that he was very hurt and played his ass off that game. If you go back and watch how much he wanted to win yet receiver's dropped damn near every ball thrown that game.

ILL_Legel

November 25th, 2010 at 10:29 AM ^

I can't help but feel like I'm reading the stand or sit at the stadium posts.  People are pretty much dug in on their position.  There really isn't going to be something posted that will change the minds of one side or the other. 

I go back to my sit or stand logic.  I don't let anyone else affect my ability to enjoy the game and I'm not going to let any of this back and forth affect my ability to love this team.  We'll wait and see what happens with the coach but I'll love the team no matter what!

JonSobel

November 25th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^

I liked hearing both support and criticism from everyone.  Taking a position on this without a willingness to listen to opposing viewpoints is, IME, dangerous for the future of the university. 

This piece was meant to be cathartic and nothing more.  It is by no means an indictment of the fans of our team that don't think our coach is the right choice for this university.  It is simply my own observations of the fan base as a whole and the current coach of our team.  I believe we, in total, have become one of the more stubborn in college football.  That was why I referred to it as a religion or political topic at this point.

To those who think this is somehow worthy of the front page, thank you, but I disagree.  This is simply an opinion piece from one side of the argument and doesn't deserve to be highlighted in any way, especially in comparison to the well researched, statistic laden pieces that are painstakingly prepared by some of the regular contributors to this site.  That is something that I will probably never have the time to do, and I appreciate all of them.

Thanks to Brian for allowing things like this to be published in the first place.  This is my lifeline to the team from here in Columbus, and I probably spend more time here than is good for me but to me it is worth the investment of my time.  I don't really have another place like this that I can "ping" regarding my thoughts and ideas.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!  Go Blue!  Please beat Ohio State!  Another year in this hole on the losing end of this rivalry would be nearly unbearable.

raleighwood

November 25th, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^

I stopped reading after this....

"Keeping that in mind, I posit this. Rich Rodriguez IS Bo Schembechler. He IS Fritz Crisler. He IS Fielding Yost."

Losing seasons, getting physically dominated and NCAA probation ARE NOT hallmarks of Bo Schembechler's time at Michigan.  Ridiculous.