Michigan Recruits: 4 vs. 3 stars
So after NOLA's interesting post, I asked in the comments to see comparison's from any and all teams he could do. One I (and most of us) could do and would like to see, presumably, is Michigan. Between me and wikipedia, I figured I could mostly get who got drafted correct. If I screwed up, let me know and I'll rework the charts. I took results through 2005 since much of the '06 class remains to be seen. Chart?
Those are the five stars. Fours:
And now the 3's:
For the record, that's
In the very least, under Lloyd, it's pretty clear that your star ranking mattered. My understanding is that the recruitniks who end up rating the recruits have plenty of contact with the best coaches, so I'm not surprised that the best programs have useful results. Past the top 25, it may well be a crap shoot. So it would seem the question is: do the recruitniks still give Michigan that kind of credence? I doubt they lost it in two seasons (not like Rich was an under the radar hire either), so I'm guessing we should probably care about recruiting rankings.
Name | Pos | Stars | Year | Draft | Count |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Gabriel Watson | DT | 5 | 2002 | 1 | 1 |
Prescott Burgess | DB | 5 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
LaMarr Woodley | LB | 5 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
Chad Henne | QB | 5 | 2004 | 1 | 1 |
Kevin Grady | RB | 5 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Brandon Graham | LB | 5 | 2006 | 1 | 1 |
Stephen Schilling | OL | 5 | 2006 | 0 | 1 |
Those are the five stars. Fours:
Name | Pos | Stars | Year | Draft | Count |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Steve Breaston | ATH | 4 | 2002 | 1 | 1 |
Quinton McCoy | ATH | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Larry Harrison | DT | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Jeremy Van Alstyne | LB | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Mike Kolodziej | OL | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Matt Gutierrez | QB | 4 | 2002 | 1 | 1 |
Darnell Hood | RB | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Pierre Rembert | RB | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Jason Avant | WR | 4 | 2002 | 1 | 1 |
Carl Tabb | WR | 4 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Leon Hall | DB | 4 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
Quinton McCoy | DB | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Ryan Mundy | DB | 4 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
Shawn Crable | DE | 4 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
Jim Presley | LB | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Adam Kraus | OL | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Jake Long | OL | 4 | 2003 | 1 | 1 |
Jeff Zuttah | OL | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Clayton Richard | QB | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Jerome Jackson | RB | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Will Paul | TE | 4 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Tim Jamison | DE | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Michael Massey | DE | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Will Johnson | DT | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Chris Graham | LB | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Chris Rogers | LB | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Brett Gallimore | OL | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Alex Mitchell | OL | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Alan Branch | OL | 4 | 2004 | 1 | 1 |
Max Martin | RB | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Doug Dutch | WR | 4 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Adrian Arrington | WR | 4 | 2004 | 1 | 1 |
Morgan Trent | WR | 4 | 2004 | 1 | 1 |
Antonio Bass | ATH | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Brandon Harrison | DB | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Eugene Germany | DE | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
James McKinney | DT | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Terrance Taylor | DT | 4 | 2005 | 1 | 1 |
Marques Slocum | OL | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Cory Zirbel | OL | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
David Moosman | OL | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Justin Schifano | OL | 4 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Mario Manningham | WR | 4 | 2005 | 1 | 1 |
And now the 3's:
Name | Pos | Stars | Year | Draft | Count |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Willis Barringer | DB | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Rondell Biggs | DE | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
David Harris | LB | 3 | 2002 | 1 | 1 |
Brian Thompson | LB | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Obi Oluigbo | LB | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Tom Berishaj | OL | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Mark Bihl | OL | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Rueben Riley | OL | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Kevin Murphy | TE | 3 | 2002 | 0 | 1 |
Pat Sharrow | OL | 3 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Anton Campbell | RB | 3 | 2003 | 0 | 1 |
Jamar Adams | DB | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Charles Stewart | DB | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
John Thompson | LB | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Jeremy Ciulla | OL | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Grant DeBenedictis | OL | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Mike Hart | RB | 3 | 2004 | 1 | 1 |
Roger Allison | RB | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Keston Cheathem | WR | 3 | 2004 | 0 | 1 |
Chris Richards | ATH | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Johnny Sears | DB | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Carson Butler | DE | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Chris McLaurin | DE | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Brandon Logan | LB | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Tim McAvoy | OL | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Mark Ortmann | OL | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Jason Forcier | QB | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
Mister Simpson | RB | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
LaTerryal Savoy | WR | 3 | 2005 | 0 | 1 |
For the record, that's
Stars | Total | Drafted | Pct |
---|---|---|---|
5 | 7 | 5 | 71.43% |
4 | 43 | 12 | 27.91% |
3 | 29 | 2 | 6.90% |
In the very least, under Lloyd, it's pretty clear that your star ranking mattered. My understanding is that the recruitniks who end up rating the recruits have plenty of contact with the best coaches, so I'm not surprised that the best programs have useful results. Past the top 25, it may well be a crap shoot. So it would seem the question is: do the recruitniks still give Michigan that kind of credence? I doubt they lost it in two seasons (not like Rich was an under the radar hire either), so I'm guessing we should probably care about recruiting rankings.
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