Michigan Lacrosse and the Canadian Question

Submitted by Brooks on

 

My next diary entry was supposed to be Part III in my recruiting analysis (Feel free to check out Part I and Part II), but I wanted to address a question/assertion that has appeared several times in the comments of both posts.  A lot of readers have asserted that Michigan needs to make headway recruiting Canadian players if they want to compete quickly at the D1 level in lacrosse.  Canadians are certainly not new to college lacrosse, after all arguably the two greatest players of all time were the Canadian brothers Gary and Paul Gait, who won 3 National Titles for Syracuse in the late 80s.

In the last two years, however, there has been a spike in interest in Canadian players in the media, particularly ESPN/Inside Lacrosse Magazine’s Quint Kessich.  This attention has stemmed from the success of a couple of Canadian players the last couple of years.  The most famous is Kevin Crowley of Stony Brook, who was one the NCAA scoring leaders in 2010 and a preseason favorite for the Tewaaraton Trophy in 2011.  Hofstra attackmen Jay Card and Jamie Lincoln also impressed many with their breakout performance in 2010 and great follow up in 2011.  Sophomore Matt Cockerton had a solid season for NCAA champion Virginia this year, totaling 17 points and showing that Canada produces players than can contribute on the deepest of squads and on the biggest stages.  More and more teams are recruiting Canadian players, so do they provide Michigan with a “magic bullet” in recruiting?

 

What Canadian Players Bring To Your Team

I will admit this is a gross generalization upfront.  Obviously each player’s experience and talent are unique, and many Canadian players actually attend school in the US and play here more than in their hometowns, and much of this will sound as asinine as “you recruit football players from Florida because they’re faster!”  With that out of the way, here’s how Canadian players in general are different from Americans.

Here is a highlight video of Virginia from 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO_uWWrqm20

If you are not familiar with lacrosse, you can get a feel for what the game is like from these camera angles.  In lacrosse you always have to keep 3 players on the offensive side of the field, and 4 players on your defensive side.  So, although you have 9 field players plus 1 goalie on the field at all times, in settled situations the game is actually played 6v6.  The lacrosse field is 120 yards x 60 yards, so that gives the offense a tremendous amount of room to create shots.  One player normally will initiate the offense by dodging (driving) to cage, another player will cut to cage/backdoor for an easy shot, and a third player will pop out into space for an outside shot/pull the ball out and regroup.  For the vast majority of Americans, this is the only type of lacrosse they play.

Canadians, on the other hand, tend to grow up playing a lot more indoor lacrosse (also called box lacrosse, box or boxla).  Lacrosse was a way for hockey rink owners to keep their spaces busy in the summer once the ice melted in Canada (and the Great Lakes), so for the better part of a century this has been how Canadian players were introduced to the game.  This is what box lacrosse looks like at the highest level.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NLL?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/31/hNvK6N5Qi9g

It almost looks like two completely different games.  While outdoor lacrosse looks like basketball on a soccer field, box lacrosse is hockey played with the ball in the air rather than a puck on the ground (literally.  Check out the goalie pads and how they hold their sticks.  Also, feel free to check out any of the inordinate number of fight highlights they offer).  You play only play 5v5 in box and on field the size of a hockey rink.

With this different experience, Canadians bring a completely different skill set to their teams when they start playing outdoors for American colleges.  In box lacrosse, the field is obviously much smaller and the game is more compact, so Canadian players are used to playing in much tighter spaces than Americans.  It is a game that rewards quickness in the first step, since the field is smaller burst is much more important than 40 yard dash speed, so Canadian players are very explosive dodgers.  They are also used to passing into very, very tight windows, and just as importantly, they are used to catching passes under great duress.  Finally, they are used to shooting at a goal that is half the size of a field lacrosse goal and against goalies wearing hockey pads, so they tend to be very accurate shooters with a quick release.  When they get to college they don’t lose any of these skills, and they are suddenly given a space twice as big to work with.  These skills, again speaking in broad generalities, make Canadians great attackman and crease players.  They make great attackman because they are quick, know how to create offense on their own with little space, and are very accurate feeding to the crease, despite not having the full out speed to run 120 yards back and forth with the midfielders.   They make great crease players because they are great at catching the ball in traffic, so they get passes other players would miss, and their shot release is so quick and accurate they score before the defense can collapse on them.

Here is a 1 minute highlight of Hofstra’s star Canadian Jamie Lincoln.  He’s #8, but you’ll recognize him as they guy involved in every goal for the gold team.  The video isn’t great, but you can see how precise his passes are, as well as how creative and accurate his own shot selection is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90BUt47yktg

 

So Are Canadians The Key For Michigan Recruiting?

Despite the media attention, the numbers are not there for Canadian recruiting to justify the hype quite yet.  There were only 18 Canadian players total on the roster of the Top 8 D1 programs last year, which is 5% of the total rosters.  Even Denver, who received the most hype of any team for the way they were recruiting out of Canada since supposedly it was key to their rise from nothing to the Final Four in two years, only has 4 players from our neighbor to the North.  According to Laxpower.com, only 29 Canadians total have signed D1 letters for the Class of 2011 (H/T to Tim for passing on that link).  That’s 3% of the total players signed for this year, or just under what Virginia alone produced (which itself is not a hotbed).

So, it appears as of now that Canada is not as much an untapped resource as it is a place where it’s very top level players are getting a lot of media attention.  And rightly so, since these Canadian players mentioned are tremendous.  If Michigan can get top players out of Canada that would be tremendous, but I do not think it’s the land of diamonds in the rough that some have made it out to be.

 

I’ll be back with Part III next week.

Comments

clarkiefromcanada

June 30th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^

Gary and Paul Gait were the greatest of all time with an honourable mention to Mr. Jim Brown who shaped the nature of the modern game.

I suspect you'll see increased NCAA recruitment north of the border because of the increased presence of the game at the youth and high school level up here. There is a real expansion in the game now. The second factor is the NLL and the success of the Toronto Rock playing at the ACC.

The kids dig the lacrosse up here; one point you didn't make is that the box lacrosse is a way more nasty and physical game than the outdoor version and prepares the kids (most also play the hockey anyway and are used to the contact) with a level of toughness that their new team mates will not  have experienced. 

Waters Demos

June 30th, 2011 at 11:59 PM ^

One of your countrymen once had me over for American Thanksgiving dinner at his home near the shores of Lake Ontario when I couldn't be in the States with family on that particular day. 

Here's my deficient attempt to return the favor: Happy Canada Day to all those north of our border. 

Here's a Keith's to Canadian experiences (runs to the Beer Store or LCBO, hockey night at an Annex Bloor St. bar, etc...). 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

June 30th, 2011 at 11:53 PM ^

Excellent article as always.  One distinction that probably should've been mentioned: Box lacrosse has no long pole.  And of course, goalie skills are completely different between the two sports.  People who say "we should recruit Canada" will need to remember that we won't find a single defender or goalie in the Canadian box lacrosse ranks.  Plus, playing against a long pole is something the Canadians have to acclimate to.

Oh, also: it was Matt's freshman brother Mark Cockerton who did all that scoring.  Matt doesn't get on the field much.  It took us UVA fans probably until the tournament to finally get that straightened out amongst ourselves.  Parents plz give your kids differenter names than that.

laxalum

July 1st, 2011 at 9:09 AM ^

is arguably the best LSM to ever play.  Certainly he's among the best.  He's Canadian.  While Canada isn't loaded with field lacrosse defenders, they do exist.  The field game is growing fast up north of the border.  Merrill's Hill Academy teams tour the US every spring and compete with the best US high school teams.  He had his teams in Michigan this spring I believe to play Brother Rice.

One important factor about Canadian players is they typically need more scholarship support to attend US schools.  It's a blue collar sport up there, and the Canadian dollar doesn't help.  UM will have the NCAA limit of 12.6 scholarships, with gives you just over 3 to use each year for a class of 12 or so recruits.  If you bring in two Canadians in a class, that's potentially a pretty large chunk of the scholarship money you have available.

One correction to the article...a lacrosse field is 110 yards long, not 120.

Great series!  Thanks for doing this.

O.J. The Bouvier

July 1st, 2011 at 12:31 AM ^

...that sustained Michigan domination would eventually require the consumption of Canadian resources.

TESOE

July 1st, 2011 at 2:02 AM ^

I hadn't realized until watching clips... elite players are rare.

Laxpower doesn't even have us listed yet and ND has a full class it looks like. 

I'm still curious how the scholarships will work (Lacrosse only gives 12.6 scholarships.)  Will they piece them out across the entire team.  Are some of the players walk ons as is and won't by put on scholarship regardless?  I'm sure they will do this just like Track or any of the other nonmoney sport... but I have to admit my ignorance to how that works.

I came on this clip post the Virginia clip in Brooks' post...you can really see how speed and physical play can make the difference here...this player had a tragic story post his college career but this clip is awesome.  This kid played football in HS evidently.  I see very similar skills to football...

mlax27

July 1st, 2011 at 6:08 PM ^

What I think makes some of these Canadians so valuable is their ability to create offense by breaking down a defense. Their unconventional and creative style of play can really expose a defense. If Michigan is going to compete with the big boys, they are going to need some offensive players talented enough to initiate and offense and breadkdown a defense. Having amazing athletic talent like Will Barrow is one way to do it, another is by having the creative stick skills that so many canadian players have. There aren't a ton of canadian players out there, but it may be easier to steal an under the radar player out of canada than to take the next super athlete from long island. Additionally, team Canada is at least as good as team USA. In terms of hall of fame type players, they certainly produce more than their fare share. If we are looking for elite talent, canada is one place we can get it (even if it is limited in quantity).

IrishLax

July 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 AM ^

On the "Even Denver, who received the most hype of any team for the way they were recruiting out of Canada since supposedly it was key to their rise from nothing to the Final Four in two years, only has 4 players from our neighbor to the North" if you take away the Canadians from Denver they probably don't break .500 this year.  Mark Matthews is an incredible talent and their whole offense ran through him.  And Jeremy Noble/Cameron Flint were a HUGE difference makers on that team.  When 3 out of their 5 best players are from Canada (accounting for over 40% of their goals from just three Canadian players) it's kinda crazy to downplay the impact of Canadian recruiting.

While there might not be a high quantity of players on the roster at any given time they've been an integral part of keep Denver competitive for years because they are often the most talented guys/key players.  Case and point is Mark Matthews (who surprisingly got no mention in this article... he is the best player on Denver and a future top 10 pick).  You don't need a roster full of Canadians, but Canada is going to be one of the better ways for Michigan to grab guys with Blue Chip talent because they won't be battling with the Virginias, Hopkins and Syracuses of the world in most cases.  They can get so much local talent that they typically ignore most Canadian prospects (obviously, there are exceptions to that rule).

Jamie Munro realized the importance of recruiting outside of the hotbeds long before Bill Tierney ever came to Denver.  You can get role players and B level starters from the traditional areas... but you're never going to get a true game changer head to head over an ACC school.  On the flip side, if you invest time building inroads to Canada and scout/court under the radar guys... you can steal a Kevin Crowley or Mark Matthews... and one or two A listers is often the difference between a tourney caliber team and a team that cannot compete with the big boys.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of ways to build a successful team.  I've covered lacrosse in the midwest for IL for a couple years now and have seen Denver, Notre Dame and Ohio State all build competitive programs in very different ways.  In the end I think Michigan gets their foundation from a blend of in-state talent and under-developed kids with high upside from out of state.  But if Michigan is to ever going to get to Memorial Day it is likely going to be on the crafty stick work of a Canadian they found and the "traditional" powers overlooked.

Just my $0.02 from your friendly neighborhood Inside Lacrosse blogger.  Really can't wait for the day when the Big Ten has lacrosse... that's going to be so much fun.

Brooks

July 2nd, 2011 at 4:34 PM ^

Great point, and just an innocent mistake not to include Matthews on my list-- he was far and away the best Canadian player in D1 this year.  Without him, I agree that Denver never gets anywhere near the Final Four.  However, I was surprised with the attention Denver received this year, that they only had 4 players on the roster from Canada.  At times the media made it sound as if they were 50% Canadian, when in reality they were successful because they had found one amazing player and a couple other solid contributors.

What I was trying to respond to was the notion that "if we own Canadian recruiting, we will own D1 lacrosse immediately" thread that was starting to emerge.  I completely agree with you that if Michigan gets some of the top players out of Cananda, whether from the Hill school or converted hockey players are boarding schools in the Midwest and New England, they will certainly be game changers and important to buliding a solid program.  What I don't think is the answer is to sign classes with 6 or 7 Canadians each year. Currently, I think Canada is a bit like the Midwest-- the very best players can compete with anyone, but I'm not sure if it has the depth to make it the centerpiece of your recruiting.  Time may very well prove me wrong, and if that means Michigan is competitive faster then I'm all for it.

Thanks for your comment and feedback-- it's a great 2 cents, and keep the great stuff coming out of IL!

TESOE

July 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 AM ^

Ohio State took two of the top 25 Canadian players.  They have only taken one Canadian for 2012-13...regardless they and many others are recruiting up there.  Given the box lacrosse hockey crossover it's got to be tough to pull these kids into lacrosse.

Denver's recruiting is all over the map.  They are well connected.

There's little to go on here with respect  to value of these recruits from a casual fan's perspective.  If they are only getting partial scholarships (which I am assuming give the NCAA limits on total equivalent scholarships) there really isn't much pull other than what Michigan has to offer academically (which is a plus) and as an up and coming D-1 LAX school.  Proximity is always going to play a role.  We would do well to cover our region well.

Given the limits - I'm also wondering what percentage of the current players for Mich turned down offers to play D-1 in coming to Michigan - are there many/any?

I also noticed that John Hopkins recruited a Michigan goalie.   It's possible to find talent here.  I checked out this footage of him in HS.  I have no clue how to evaluate a goalie's skill...that's got to be challenging for a recruiter.  Evidently the top programs are looking everywhere...including Michigan.

I noticed Alex Van Slyke is a Michigan HS All American (Jr.).  Is he any relation to the Van Slykes?  I'm looking forward to the first recruiting posts here if that is possible or NLI signing day rundowns at the least.