Michigan Hoops At The Big Ten Halfway Point

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Despite losing star guard Caris LeVert for a month due to injury, Michigan currently sits in fourth place at 7-2 in the Big Ten; after a so-so non-conference showing, the Wolverines’ strong start to conference play has allayed any concerns about missing the NCAA Tournament. Still, there’s a lack of clarity with this team – even disregarding the uncertainty regarding LeVert’s return and ability to quickly and seamlessly reintegrate into the lineup.

With the notable exception of the win over Maryland, Michigan still is essentially a team that’s beaten the teams they should’ve beaten and lost to the teams they should’ve lost to (two neutral site games, UConn (loss) and Texas (win), were the only two against opponents close to U-M in Ken Pomeroy’s ratings). For the most part, the Wolverines’ wins in the Big Ten have been rather pedestrian: Rutgers and Minnesota were uninspiring home victories over terrible teams, sweeping Penn State isn’t a notable resume event, and the road wins in Big Ten play – over Illinois and Nebraska – were against teams that will surely miss the NCAA’s.

Still, between that win over the Terrapins, the complete lack of bad losses, and the tantalizing potential of adding an All-American level player to a team that’s already playing pretty well, there’s reason to hope that Michigan can round into a formidable squad heading into postseason play. The schedule from here on out in the Big Ten is undeniably harder – starting this week with home contests against Indiana and Michigan State. After Michigan’s solid start to the conference season, there are a few things we can point to as pretty important moving forward:

[After the jump, those things]

THE EVOLUTION OF MARK DONNAL

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During non-conference play, it wasn’t difficult to diagnose Michigan with a severe weakness in its revolving door of young big men, but starting with Donnal’s breakthrough against Illinois (26 points on 15 shot equivalents, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 steals) in the Big Ten opener, Michigan seems to have found an answer for that problem. In the 9 games of league play, these are some of Mark Donnal’s tempo-free stats (no, I’m not joking):

  • Offensive rebounding rate of 15.5, second-best in the Big Ten
  • Effective FG % of 61.2, true shooting % of 63.3, both good for third-best
  • 2-point % of 61.4, fifth-best
  • Block rate of 5.5, tenth-best
  • Free throw rate of 47.9, tenth-best (FT% is a nice 69% against Big Ten opponents)
  • Offensive rating of 120.0, usage rate of 22.7 (only Big Ten players with better usage and efficiency in conference play are Andrew White, Matt Costello, Peter Jok, Diamond Stone, and Denzel Valentine)

Gyarados Mark has been a revelation as the starting center. He fits well in Michigan’s pick-and-roll game as the Wolverines’ best screener and makes himself available on rolls to the basket better than anyone; he stabilizes Michigan’s defense with a great sense of verticality, surprisingly ferocious blocks, and the ability to hedge and recover unlike Michigan’s other options at the five. Donnal has finally been playing with some physicality and toughness and that’s enabling him to show off the mobility and coordination that helped make him a highly-regarded recruit.

It should be noted that he’s thrived against mostly lower-tier Big Ten centers, but after a career in which he had done little, his emergence to being approximately league-average has been huge. Michigan doesn’t ask for much out of their bigs on the offensive end, and Donnal’s improved finishing in the pick-and-roll coupled with the passing ability of Derrick Walton and Zak Irvin has been a newfound offensive staple since the start of Big Ten play. Defensively, Donnal has been adequate at worst – far better than the collective play of the big men on that end of the floor in non-conference play.

Michigan’s other options at the five still haven’t come around and even though Donnal’s kept a decent foul rate, the Wolverines are still forced to play at least 15 minutes per game with a backup in most contests. As evidenced by the shuffling of Moritz Wagner and Ricky Doyle as Donnal’s primary backup and recent moonlighting as a four by D.J. Wilson, it’s clear that the coaches are still looking for an answer there.

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Zak and Derrick are leading the way

With Caris sidelined again, Michigan’s remaining pieces of The Big Three That Sorta Never Was were tasked with creating most of the Wolverines’ offense and they’ve stepped up to the task so far. Irvin and Walton are unique players: the former a versatile wing who attacks off the pick-and-roll and is tasked with defending burly power forwards, the latter a 3-and-D point guard that attacks the defensive glass like a guy a foot taller than him. Both juniors can score, pass, and rebound, and they’re probably the best individual defenders in their respective position groups.

At this point of his career, it’s starting to look like Zak Irvin might be the best four Beilein’s had at Michigan. The promise of his late-season sophomore surge a year ago didn’t show through early on this season as he recovered from a back injury, but as he’s gotten healthier, Irvin has started to build on that strong finish: in the last month, his three-point shot has recovered, he’s averaged over four assists per game, and he’s often drawn the toughest individual matchup on defense in that time.

Most importantly, he’s a matchup issue for teams that like to go big: consider Michigan’s win over Maryland, in which 4-5 pick-and-rolls and hot three-point shooting leveraged the Terrapins out of their preferred lineups featuring Layman/Carter/Stone. That Irvin enables U-M to unlock the advantages of playing a wing at the four on offense – shooting and playmaking – without conceding the usual disadvantages on the other end is critical in mitigating the disadvantage the Wolverines have against bigger teams.

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Kenpom now has a feature in which it names an “MVP” in each individual game based on an algorithm of traditional box score stats; in the last four games – granted, against mediocre or worse opponents – Walton has been the most valuable player:

  • Minnesota: 22 points (19 shot equivalents), 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal
  • Nebraska: 19 (11), 12, 6, 2
  • Rutgers: 14 (12.5), 3, 4, 1
  • Penn State: 13 (12), 10, 7, 3

As we noted recently, Derrick Walton is a truly singular player. His combination of three-point shooting, assist rate, and defensive rebounding is virtually unparalleled and while he does have some weaknesses in his game (like only 36% shooting from two), Walton’s done well to play to his strengths. Even though he’s still likely best as a role player – remember, he was very effective as a freshman as a spot-up shooter off the ball – he’s been able to handle the responsibility as Michigan’s sole creator whenever Irvin is off the floor.

Entering the season, Michigan looked to have four rotation-quality guards: Caris LeVert, Derrick Walton, Spike Albrecht, and Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman. Now, only two of those four have been healthy, and while Caris is likely to return somewhat soon, Michigan’s been able to stay afloat with just Walton – who missed most of last year’s Big Ten season due to injury – and Rahkman – who tends to stop the ball and drive with a singular focus towards shooting the ball. It’s impressive that Michigan’s guard play hasn’t really suffered; while credit should go to Rahkman for ably stepping into starter’s minutes and Irvin for occasionally playing as a two on offense, most should go to Walton, who’s been crucial in ways that aren’t readily evident – just consider his excellent work on the defensive glass.

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Other thoughts

  • Duncan Robinson’s recent stretch of (relatively) cold shooting isn’t too much of a concern, as Michigan is still hitting over 40% in conference play. Still, Michigan’s chances at upsets often hinge on good outside shooting – and by extension Robinson, who’s capable of making enough by himself to turn an average shooting night into a great one.
  • Michigan’s big man depth is iffy, but if Caris is able to come back healthy and play as much as he was before the injury, the Wolverines’ depth at guard and at wing should be pretty decent with Rahkman and Dawkins coming in off the bench. Beilein typically favors shorter rotations anyways, so the backup minutes at the five are the only really serious lineup concerns if LeVert makes it back.
  • Beilein has been tinkering with a 2-3 zone lately and it seems to have been pretty effective. When teams have more than one defensive minus on the floor at the same time, a zone can be a good idea – unless Michigan’s facing good shooting, packing it in and daring opponents to shoot over them is a decent strategy with their personnel.
  • The 1-3-1 still makes an occasional appearance – it’s good that Michigan feels comfortable enough with that to use it, as it’s often more effective against non-conference foes come tournament time as opposed to Big Ten teams that have scouted it for years.
  • By and large, the defense is still pretty bad. With Michigan’s recruiting emphasis and coaching strength’s, Beilein’s teams will always be offense-first (which is great from an aesthetic perspective), but that offense has to be good enough to cover for a pretty mediocre defense this season.
  • The quest for a backup four continues and it hasn’t been going well – neither Kam Chatman nor D.J. Wilson have been able to contribute solid minutes there, which creates a real problem when Irvin is off the floor. Even when LeVert comes back, this will still be an issue; I’m guessing Beilein will eventually have to accept that minutes with both Aubrey Dawkins and Duncan Robinson on the floor are a necessity.
  • MARK DONNAL. Seriously. What a transformation.

As Caris continues to work back – my totally uninformed guess is that he won’t be back for the Indiana game tomorrow, but who knows – it still feels like this is an incomplete team, but the development of Michigan’s junior class has been an incredibly positive sign. With a backloaded Big Ten schedule, we’ll see how much Michigan has improved – this team could very well be a threat to reach the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament, and, in the meantime, is poised to finish in the top four of the Big Ten this season.

Comments

Dr. Kenneth No…

February 1st, 2016 at 4:39 PM ^

My only concern with Caris returning to the lineup would be that he effects the chemistry the team has built without him. UM seems to be moving the ball around very well, especially when there is under 10 seconds left on the shot clock. UM is also not relying on an individual to keep them in the game (Walton, Irvin, Donnal, and DRob have all played key roles in victories.) There have been too many instances in the past where Caris tries to do too much. Instead of a drive and dish, he dribbles the clock down and takes a forced turn-a-round jumper. 

umumum

February 1st, 2016 at 6:05 PM ^

There is almost no situation where having a 1st round draft pick doesn't trump any perceived "chemistry" issues.  Chemistry has not been an issue with Levert when there have been other viable offensive options on the court.  That has not always been the case this year or last.  Simply put, Michigan will be better with Caris than without him.  Not even close.  He's the potential difference in just making the tournament and being able to do real damage once there.

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 6:31 PM ^

But Caris has demonstrated an ability to fit in when surrounded by good teammates.  The fully deployed Zak Irvin you see now has not been around until now.  Caris' abscense may have advanced Irvin's development, but it's not going to destroy it.

Michigan4Life

February 1st, 2016 at 7:54 PM ^

That's overblown IMO. Only reason why Caris had to carry the load because Irvin or Walton hasn't played well. Look at Caris two years ago when he took a backseat to Nik but still does his thing.

That should not be a discussion on whether to play Caris or not. Caris is a future 1st round pick and you don't keep him on the bench.



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Wolverine In Iowa 68

February 1st, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^

as long as the team can integrate Caris back into the lineup smoothly, things should continue to improve.  Having Caris out there should free up Robinson more so he can get back to raining 3's (he's been drawing a lot more D lately as teams scout him).  Getting another big time target back can only help.

Overall, the team looks to be close to hitting a stride.  With Caris coming back at the time they "might" hit that stride, we should be poised to make a big run through the tail end of the regular season and the B1G tourney.  With a strong showing, we could build some good momentum and confidence for the NCAA and possibly shock some people.

Looking forward to seeing the next steps.

o0MaizeNBlue0o

February 1st, 2016 at 4:44 PM ^

Someone asked Beilein recently if he was worried about team chemistry when Levert comes back.  He said it was a concern of his.  I'm looking forward to having him back but it'll be interesting to see how chemistry is affected.   Maybe his return will bring this team to a new level...

 

edit-- it seems alot of us are thinking similarly...

lilpenny1316

February 1st, 2016 at 4:48 PM ^

and those guys came back in time to lead a run through the B1G Tournament all the way to the Elite Eight.  As long as we get Caris back with a few games remaining in the regular season, we should have all chemistry issues worked out for March.

champswest

February 1st, 2016 at 4:50 PM ^

schedule ranks 14 our of 14 and Michigan's is 13, as Alex alludes to. That is probably a good thing as it allowed us to prosper without Caris and develope some players. As mentioned in this review, it will be huge if we can develope another 4 & 5 down the stretch (and get a healthy LeVert back in the lineup). Good recap, Alex.

JBE

February 1st, 2016 at 5:05 PM ^

When Caris gets healthy this is an Elite Eight team.There's not another team in the country that can score in such a variety of ways. Once it comes together it'll be dirt nasty.

TrueBlue2003

February 1st, 2016 at 6:55 PM ^

with some scorching shooting nights in the tourney, but with our defense (lack thereof), we aren't a top 8 team even with Caris.  We had a similarly bad defense in 2014 (well, most years under Beilien) and it took the best offense in basketball to be an elite 8 team.  Eh, screw it, maybe with the new Donnal and Caris back, we could be that good at offense. I talked myself into it.  Dirt nasty, baby!

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^

Nothing major has changed relative to preseason expectations. Four significant things have happened this year:

  • Spike injury, which promoted MAAR to a more prominent role
  • LeVert's injury (combined with Spike's) removed the playing time crunch we all spent the summer wondering about
  • Donnal, rather than Doyle, emerged as the starting center
  • Robinson lived up to the hype and hopes as an elite shooter, thus pushing Dawkins to the bench

But the big picture is still the same.  We have a Big 3 (Walton, LeVert, Irvin) who are excellent overall and run the offense.  We have 3 quality wing players (MAAR, Robinson, Dawkins) who capably round out the rotation.  We have a weakness at Center - still.

As Alex mentions, Donnal's had most of his success against the lower half of the conference. Foul trouble will remain a problem against the better teams on the schedule. For that reason, Michigan needs Wagner, Wilson or Doyle to have a Donnal-like leap in effectiveness.  Only then can Michigan get into the conference title conversation or being anything more at a dark-horse Sweet 16 pick.

 

TrueBlue2003

February 1st, 2016 at 7:47 PM ^

He was pretty good against Maryland who has very good bigs.  He had an efficient 8 points, had a couple big blocks and was very solid defensively helping out on Trimble and the guards. Defensively, he looked like Jmo in that game.  Yes, he was bad (everyone was except MAAR) against Purdue, but Maryland Donnal is plenty good enough to compete for a conference championship, and is probably even a strength.  Purdue Donnal won't get it done against the likes of MSU and Iowa who we'll have to beat to compete for the conference.

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 5:18 PM ^

Is still GR3 until it isn't.  Irvin is playing great and is more versatile but GR3 was underrated defensively and a huge threat on offense.  Just like 3 point shooters create spacing, GR3's ability to fly in from the wing to finish kept defender's attentions too.

Irvin has pushed into the conversation though, and if I'm being honest I expect Irvin to come out ahead by next year - especially since he'll likely be a 4-year player.

 

TrueBlue2003

February 1st, 2016 at 7:35 PM ^

then I think he'll already be ahead. Irvin at the end of last year and the past six weeks has been better than GR3 was.  GR3 was a mediocre-at-best defender (he is only underrated if you think he's rated as a terrible defender, which most people think), whereas Irvin is the best on this year's team, can guard traditional 4's at least as well as GR3 could and guards wing players better.

Irvin has also become the drive-to-the-basket, pick-and-roll alpha dog that GR3 never could get.  GR3 had one offensive strength. He was all world at it, but he was purely a finisher, which depends on someone else feeding him. Put GR3 on this team and ask him to be the guy initiating offense and it would not go well. Irvin has a 23% assist rate in B1G play this year, good for 12th best in the conference.  GR3 had a microscopic assist rate.

The declaration will happen this year if Irvin keeps it up and shows that early this season was an injury blip.

Lanknows

February 2nd, 2016 at 12:15 PM ^

It hinges on if you think the guy creating offense is necessarily better than an excellent supporting player.  GR3 couldn't/can't run an offense, but he was brilliant besides Burke and company. I tend to give preference to the guy whose team was massively successful while he was here and immediately fell off a cliff when he was not.

Being the best defender on THIS team isn't saying much.  I'm also not entirely convinced that's true about Irvin either -- I'll wait to see what happens against Denzel Valentine to judge.

GR3 was a respectable 3 point shooter, a beast in transition, and like you said - otherworldly at finishing.  Nothing wrong with being a specialist (see: Duncan Robinson), especially if it fits around your needs. 

Also, it should be noted that he's right there with Trey, Tim, Nik, and Mitch in terms of NBA performance.  He's a fringe rotation guy, as all of them are. Any one of them could still end up having the best NBA career a decade from now and anyone of them may be off to Europe within a year or two also.

GR3 got massively underrated while he was here for reasons that remain foggy to me.

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 5:22 PM ^

"Michigan’s chances at upsets often hinge on good outside shooting – and by extension Robinson, who’s capable of making enough by himself to turn an average shooting night into a great one."

Robinson shot the exact same from 3 against SMU and Maryland, so I'm not sure he's the 'hinge'-factor. He's obviously a key player and a difference-maker, but Michigan has a lot of guys who can nail 3s.  Frankly, if Robinson can just function as a decoy who draws defenders into playing 4-4 against Michigan, that's a huge advantage for us.

dcblue92

February 1st, 2016 at 5:24 PM ^

Great summary.  I do think MAAR deserves more credit for the team's improvement and for keeping the ship afloat in Caris's absence.  He is one of only three guys (Walton & Irvin the others) who can really create on their own.  He and Irvin are the only ones who've shown an ability to finish.  

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^

I think you raise a good point about how Michigan doesn't ask it's centers to do much on offense. Mostly it's about setting screens and being able to roll. Run the offense - you don't have to be a 40% shooter from 3. Given that - couldn't Michigan have a shot-blocker at Center?

I'm pretty excited to see if Teske won't fit better than some of these 'versatile' 6'8 forwards Michigan's been playing.

Stringer Bell

February 1st, 2016 at 5:43 PM ^

That's my biggest issue with Beilein's recruiting.  He's been recruiting guys like Doyle (big, not particularly athletic centers with decent post skills) to essentially just run the pick n roll, when a raw, athletic center could do the same thing (perhaps even more effectively) and could provide quality interior defense.  Maybe Beilein can't get these guys because his system doesn't really promote refinement of a player's post skills, but I gotta think that there are some unheralded recruits that fit the bill.

Lanknows

February 1st, 2016 at 6:38 PM ^

Smotrycz, Donnal, Wilson, Wagner, Bielfeldt all fit a very similar profile but all have struggled to be successful and productive at the 4 spot and end up playing at the 5.

Beilein's never developed a 4 from the inside to out.  All these nominal 4s end up as deficient 5s. 

Pair the above with the success of 3s playing at the 4 (Novak, Robinson, Irvin) and it makes you wonder if Beilein lacks some sort of self-awareness about what works and doesn't at the position.

There's nothing wrong with Doyle, inherently, that 2 or 3 years of seasoning can't fix.  The problem is that too many scholarships got allocated to the 4 spot instead of the 5 and so Doyle is the only 'true' center on the entire roster.

Kwitch22

February 2nd, 2016 at 8:58 AM ^

Don't forget about Kam Chatman, he was supposed to be a 4, and he can't even find time at the 5, that is searching for minutes. It's crazy that the highest rated guy in a large class is the one that never plays. I am guessing the extra scholarship that we need for next year is going to come from him leaving to go somewhere he will actually play.

Lanknows

February 2nd, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

Kam is, at least in theory, the perfect 4 for Beilein.  Athletic, strong, and versatile.  Remember when we were talking about him as a potential PG?  That wing skillset and forward size is exactly what Beilein SHOULD be looking for in a 4.

The problem with Kam is not theoretical it is practical - he is just flat out not very good right now.

To be a Beilein 4 you really have to be willing to defer and do some of the dirty work.  Kam hasn't figured that out yet and seems more intent on showing he can shoot the ball.  I am sure the staff want him to be aggressive but I'd take a different tact with him and tell him to immediately pass the ball unless he's entirely unguarded.  He should be focused on rebounding and defense and let the rest come later.

Lanknows

February 2nd, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^

because he's a horrible rebounder and gets pushed around so easily.  Wilson would be a good Beilein 5 if he was stronger and tougher.  That should come with time. He's only a red-shirt freshman and warrants our patience. Horford and Morgan, Bielfeldt and Donnal -- the difference between these guys in year 2 vs year 4/5 is enormous.  Beilein can develop 5's if you give him time.

The question is if can ever develop 4s from guys he actually recruited to be a 4 or 5 (and not a guard).  That remains to be seen but it looks like Wilson will get a shot there since Donnal, Doyle, Teske, and Davis look to be taking up most of the minutes at the 5 over the next couple years.  Wagner too.

 

ST3

February 1st, 2016 at 5:40 PM ^

I've noticed Beilein going to the 2-3 when he has Walton/MAAR/Dawkins/Irvin/Donnal in the game. There's a certain symmetry to that unit that lends itself to the 2-3 (2 regular sized guards, two wing sized wings, and a big.) When Duncan is in the game, he's using the 1-3-1 with Duncan's length up top.

Richard75

February 1st, 2016 at 6:32 PM ^

"The Wolverines’ strong start to conference play has allayed any concerns about missing the NCAA Tournament."

Not quite.

Beating IU or MSU would do that. Lose both and 7-2 can easily become 10-8, what with this remaining schedule. 10-8 is bubble with our resume.



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Muttley

February 1st, 2016 at 10:51 PM ^

We get most of the tough games at home (Indiana, MSU, Purdue, & Iowa) with away games at OSU, Maryland, and Wiscy.  (The two other "should-wins" are @Minny and home vs NW.)  If we can win 3 of 4 of the home toughies and 1 of 3 of the away toughies, we could finish 13-5. (Obviously, one of the better scenarios.)

BTW, Mich has moved up in the Coaches Poll to #29 & tied for 30th in the AP, matching their approximate KenPom position.

AC1997

February 1st, 2016 at 6:35 PM ^

1-- Rahk has greatly exceeded expectations. Many thought he would redshirt given the depth of this team, and instead he is playing 30 mpg at the 1 and 2 while improving his outside shot. Without him this team is on the wrong side of the bubble since Spike and Caris were hurt. 2-- It would be interesting to project the rest of the season if we keep doing exactly what is expected. Probably a comfortable selection Sunday but multiple games off the title hunt in the conference. 3-- I would love to go 1-1 this week. I don't like Sparty having the week off to scout and heal. It really feels like both games will turn into three point contests. 4-- I really wish we could recruit an athletic tall guy who rebounds, defends the hoop, and doesn't screw up the ball screen opportunities he gets. How does Maryland and Purdue each have three of those guys?? Teske is intriguing, but a project. Meanwhile we continue to play 6'6" wings at PF as Chatman and Wilson are a long way from helping.

AC1997

February 1st, 2016 at 6:36 PM ^

I hope Beilein leverages the success of the Warriors when he recruits. I heard that the negative recruiting strategy against us is that we play "white boy basketball.". GSW is basically running our offensr now! Let's use that to our advantage!

DrewGOBLUE

February 1st, 2016 at 7:33 PM ^

Really like Rahkman's game and how he's progressed. Hopefully he continues to develop into more of a shooting threat, but his ability to get to the hoop is a nice asset, especially if Michigan is a bit cold from beyond the arc.

It's also been impressive how he's stepped it up against tougher opponents, like SMU and Purdue and last year vs MSU. It wouldn't surprise me if MAAR becomes the alpha-dog when he's a senior.

Lanknows

February 2nd, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^

1 - Rhak has - but Spike and Caris getting hurt explains why his role has grown.  What's encouraging to see is his improvement in assists and turnovers (still a weakness but not awful) and 3 point shooting. What's discouraging is that he's not nearly the defender he was portrayed to be.

3 - Beat MSU!

4 - Every Beilein big is a project. Even McGary took 1/2 a year to really emerge into the rotation.  I think the Teske/Davis class shows that Beilein is learning he can't ever be in a position like he was last year - stuck playing exclusively inexperienced players.  The truth is he needs to be taking a center in every recruiting class (or red-shirt people to slot them accordingly) so that he always has at least 1 veteran center around.  This is easily doable if he stops devoting so many scholarships to 4s like Bielfeldt/Donnal/Wilson/Wagner.

6'6 wings are just fine in Beilein's system, as long as those guys can give as good as they get on offense and hold up respectably on defense.

blue90

February 1st, 2016 at 8:15 PM ^

I'm satisfied with this year so far, it could be much worse and is actually much better.  Just like every year it seems, we're 3-3 to start the season and I complain and then end up somewhere around 16-5 and in contention for the BIG title.  I hate those messy wins, they're almost as bad as losses but I complain more about them than I should (Rutgers and Minnesota particularly).

I am frustrated with Wilson.  I don't see any purpose he serves other than to give Zak a break which I would much rather have Aubrey or even Chatman do that.  Chatman is equally as bad but he is quicker than Wilson and I think has more potential.  In those first early games Chatman showed some nifty skills....I don't think Wilson can dribble a basketball.... 

Can someone explain to me our centers for next year?  Obvi Donnal will start but we have two more 6'10" centers coming in, that means five total.  Does this make sense?  I get having this many at the QB position in football because they push each other so much but I would be much happier with some 6-7, 6-8, 6-9 guys who can dribble and drive than five centers.

Go Beilein.  Beaty IU and Spartypants

Michigan4Life

February 1st, 2016 at 10:52 PM ^

is JB realize that big men takes the longest to develop (with McGary being the exception) and he rather stagger their experience so the big men would come in and play well immediately as opposed to waiting for them to finally catch up. It took Jordan Morgan a while to get it. Mark Donnal is finally starting to get it.

AC1997

February 2nd, 2016 at 8:22 AM ^

This is something I've wondered about as well.  I honestly think that the staff expected Donnal to flame out this year (hence why they reclassified him as a Junior) and wanted insurance.  I also think that Wagner was a total wild card that they weren't expecting to pan out when they signed the two centers in the 2017 class.  

More importantly, however, I think Beilein really wants to have a stretch-4 on the floor rather than playing four wings.  I think he's praying that Wilson or Chatman could be that guy, possibly even Wagner.  Then he can pair them with some combination of Donnal/Doyle/Teske/Davis.  Also, big men (especially the ones who aren't athletic freaks) take time to develop.  The plan was to redshirt Doyle last year until McGary and Horford left.  

My prediction:

-- One player transfers for playing time

-- Teske redshirts

-- Davis is in wait-and-see mode for prep school depending on scholarships

-- Wilson becomes a full-time PF and not a C.  

-- Wagner tries his hand at PF and C next year.

 

What is so interesting about the team at the current moment (7-2 in the conference with the hard stuff remaining) is that we're seeing next year's team play.  Without Spike and Caris, all these guys should be back.  Xavier Simpson will slide into the backup PG role so that Rahk can stay at the 2 and Dakich can stay on the bench....but otherwise that's it.  Watson might get minutes, but probably not many.  

MGlobules

February 1st, 2016 at 8:55 PM ^

etc. wants a little examining, right? You're 'supposed to beat' them based on your play, and on your play relative to other teams. It's not necessarily that you've underachieved--you have, in fact, achieved x.

Now, I think we have our work cut out for us--we have to integrate Caris, keep him healthy, and work with a very limited roster, with Spike gone and other guys, especially some bigs, not really having found their footing. I think that anything may still happen, but Beilein has shown he can over-achieve under tough circumstances. Let's hope they keep it fun and snatch a few tough wins here.