MGo vs. WLA

......should make for an interesting thread for a Friday afternoon.

I would be one of the oldsters, I guess, that frequents the WLA clubhouse. Heck, ts, I was at the 1979 OSU-UM game!!

I like both places as a UM and football refuge......and I enjoy the friendships--even if some of them remain only cyber friendships--that have been cultivated the last year or so by hanging out on both blogs.

I always was a passionate UM booster, but I feel so much more connected and "into it" ever since I discovered this site and the other off shoots. Thanks for helping me rediscover a true passion in my life.

I know the WLA may be hard to take and they come strong with their opinions, but they're a very fun bunch and poke fun at themselves as much as they poke fun of comments on here they don't agree with. Shrug them off if they irk you as they're just fellow fans with the same passion for the Maize and Blue as the rest of us.

To Brian and the WLA, I say keep up the good work and Go Blue!!

Our favorite player is Carson Butler. And anyone that disagrees with me will never write for WLA again. Or breathe.

The WLA are cuddly as unicorns. They're really a fine bunch who happen to have strong opinions. You can either choose (or not choose as I do) to get involved in the flame wars. You have a choice on these internets. Don't get so damn beat out of shape if someone disagrees with you.

Football Goals:

Mgo......stop coaches from punting on the other teams 35 yard line.

WLA......stop fans from overreacting about the fates of teen-agers. That, and, of course, more passing plays to unicorns.

is our version of Trotsky. This should end well.

Before this descends into a love fest, can one of you guys define "MGoIdiot"?

You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with intense opinions about internet discussion of college football. Who's gonna do it? You? You, well-adjusted fan who doesn't get violently angry at stupid internet posts?

 We have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Anthony Fera and you curse teenagers. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that yelling at stupid posts, while ultimately pointless, probably decreases their frequency. And our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, protects our forum...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about in real life, you want us on that wall.

You need me on that wall. We use words like rational, intelligent, entertaining...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

I have been a member here at MGB for just over 2 whole weeks. I have been following it for about a year. This site along with WLA have been CHEAP therapy for me this season. Some guys love porn(or at least can get away with it), I like MGoBlog and WLA.

Is there real dissent between the two that I didn't know of or was this entry as much toungue/cheek as it looked?(let me make it clear that I have never thought there was and I am not trying to be that guy all huffy and puffy) I just HATE those PC v MAC adds so maybe I got all defensive when I saw that analogy.

If there is a feud, or you make it into that, keep it to yourself as I need to get back on the long couch with my eyes closed and hands folded thinking of UFR's and unicorns alike.

I guess I don't see the difference between cursing a decommitted kicker and cursing some guy who curses a decommitted kicker. I mean, other than you being right. As you said yourself, both are ultimately pointless and I think such constant vigilance would detract from my overall enjoyment of the actual content of both blogs. But whatever, I salute you, sir. Better you than me.

Also:

WLA
Regardless of what you think of some of the personalities or comments made, if you have time in between Brian's fine work you should read some of their posts, they're very funny. I am especially enjoying the "Rogues Gallery" on the Spartans this week. Fun fact: George Perles was fired in 1994 because of a grade tampering scandal. I did not recall this, and the fact that he is now on the Board of Regents at MSU is pure comedy gold. See, you can learn something.

For those that have not seen it, the WLA has provided the funniest, most accurate description of George Perles I've ever seen.

in the typical population of WLA vs MGoBlog is that the MGoBloggers are more apt and willing to criticize the current coaching staff's DECISIONS. Unfortunately, most of the geeks who love and frequent MGoBlog DON'T KNOW SHIT about actual football strategy and coaching methods, so sometimes it's a pain in the ass to wade through a lot of WORNG WRONG WRONG commentary. The WLA population, as a whole, is definitely more knowledgeable about what's going on, but I feel like they're sometimes a bit TOO apologetic of the coaches. I mean, c'mon, there have been A FEW dumb coaching decisions this season that haven't exactly helped an already dire situation. Notice I said "A FEW." I still have the utmost faith in this staff but I'm not afraid to criticize it when we (me and my peeps) see something that our own pretty significant experience in the sport interpret as a mistake. But hey, nobody is infallible and this staff shouldn't be held to that standard. I'm certain that RR and his staff (Shafer included!) WILL succeed. I'd just rather not get shouted down (or dismissed condescendingly by gsimmsons) if I dare to find fault with a particular decision. It can't ALWAYS be the players' fault.

I don't know if the WLA people are more knowledgeable (besides gsimmons) but they are generally better writers (besides gsimmons). That's the main difference for me. I think of the WLA as Brian-level writing, slightly off-topic and without football knowledge. lol

I am a friend to the MGoBLOG community and the WLA, but not attatched to either, im sure none would claim me.

i never claimed to be a good blogger, but im not as bad a writer as some make me out to be. spelling is not a strong suit, obviously.

second, i never dismiss people for questioning coaches. I get pissed at people who say things so matter-of-factly about coaching decsions, that is just plain stupid.

I say all the time to myself, "i would have done this different, or that different" about my own games and games im watching. But thats a lot different then shouting, OMG EVERYONE WATCHING THIS GAME CAN SEE THAT THIS COACH IS AN IDIOT!!!! SHAFER SHOULD DEF. RUN THIS SCHEME BECASUE IT WORKS AND THIS DOESNT... GGGGRRRRRRR RRRRRABBBBBBLLLLEEE... and that is the only thing that i really get upset at people about.

and for the past year sorta of calming the masses has been my goal for comming around here, and for most people i think its apprecated, but others feel the need to get upset about that. Im not on this blog to learn anything about football from anyone, im only here to give perspective, if you dont like my perspective, so be it. Trust me i have alot of REAL people that dont like what i have to say about things, i can handle a couple of internet people thinking the same.

But the way people expect me to be ok with people bashing coaches, even though its my profession is funny. If i bashed any of the professions represented in this blog at all, i would be chastized for thinking i could know more about a profession than somone who was actually in it.

www. gsimmons85.blogspot.com

gsimmons is one of my internet-blogger heroes (whatever the heck that is) for his calm attitude and knowledge of the game.

I've just noticed a subtle shift in his 'tude lately. But that's understandable, because the quantity of dumb commentary around here has increased, and that's bound to get a coach cranky.

Sometimes I think he might be having some internal dialogue, questioning some things, but chooses to play Devil's Advocate and always defend the staff simply to help counterbalance some of the negative hysteria. And if this is the case, I applaud that.

This completed my life. I can die happy now.

formerly -- he's more like Unix. Clearly more capable, but only a handful of people understand it.

as Brian is definitely more staid (in a GOOD way).
WLA dudes--clever and crazy all at the same time.

A better comparison MIGHT be (note the emphasis) Tony Kornheiser and Dennis Miller. The first an accomplished smart journalist with a whole lotta fan sprinkled in without much filter, the second a brilliantly odd, and culturally literate commentator who could border on elitest given the obtuse references to literature, world history, and porn.

Either way, each is good for who and what they are.

And, I now insert those empty Rodney King words....can't we just all get along???? :P

titleIX -- does that imply that the WLA is going to get fired and replaced by a fat guy who is 10 years past his prime riding around on a bus? If so, where do i get in line for a turkey leg?

that what this world needs more of is unicorns.

And if those unicorns are in the final stages of undress while beckoning across a room with a single hoof to another unicorn, then maybe...just maybe...the terrorists won't win.