keep Irish closer. Good info, thanks.
Kelly's Semi-finalized ND Coaching Staff (Updated 1/7)
Update x2: 3 more (in addition to Alford) assistant coaches and both O and D coordinators have been announced. I will underline them as they become official. All of them had some interesting quotes should answer peoples question as to why Martin came to ND, in particular. Molnar will be coaching QBs in addition to being the OC, that most likely means that Hinton will be the WRs coach when he is officially announced.
Coordinator/ILB - Bob Diaco (Cincy)
DBs - Chuck Martin (GVSU)
D Line - Mike Elston (Cincy)
OLBs - Kerry Cooks (Wisconsin)
Coordinator/QBs - Charley Molnar (Cincy)
TE and OTs - Mike Denbrock (Indiana State)
RBs - Tony Alford (Notre Dame)
Interior Line - Ed Warriner (Kansas)
WRs - Tim Hinton (Cincy)
S&C - Paul Longo (Cincy)
Special Teams -
<blockquote> From the Article: Most are expected to be hired and finalized early next week and out on the recruiting trail by midweek. We also expect an announcement on the staff sometime next week. </blockquote>
Defense and S&C
Hinton is the big unknown obviously, he is a LB coach on the current Cincy staff but has also been a RB coach for Kelly while at Cincy. With Alford already announced as the RB I think he stays on the defensive side of the ball, Kelly seems to like splitting the LB duties between a ILB and OLB coach so my guess is Hinton and Cooks will continue that trend. Otherwise, I like what Cooks has done at Wisconsin and of course Martin has been well discussed post GVSU HC. Longo is Kelly's Barwis its as simple as that; he has really developed some nice lineman in particular. He also heads up Camp Kelly, the spring workout sessions which have a reputation of their own.
I was really hoping Molnar would come with Kelly and he looks to be the Coordinator as well, Denbrock is also a possibility as well. Denbrock is a bit of a ND ex-patriot as he coached at ND when Willingham was the HC. This is supposedly a good thing though from what I have been hearing, but I am still skeptical myself. He seems to be pegged for TE for sure and probably also include the OTs. The only other new name is Ed Warriner (pronounced Warner if your so inclined) from Kansas. Kelly is looking to bring the same OLine scheme he used at Cincy which is supposed to be pretty uncomplicated compared with the zone blocking scheme Weis used. That leaves Alford and his RBs; I loved the hire last year and I was really happy when he was retained by Kelly. He seems to be the next "Recruiting Coordinator" based on what he is doing right now for Kelly. The big hole remaining on offense is a QB coach, maybe that is where Hinton will end up but it seems unlikely right now based on the discussions going on. Only 9 assistant coaches (not counting S&C) are permitted by the NCAA rules so it would have to be someone already listed or Kelly himself. Jeff Genyk was expected to come with Kelly from Cincy (current QB coach) so just have to wait and see.
But there you go, should know more soon
Know your enemy!
You are awesome.
How is Hinton going to be a coach of anything? There are already 9 assistants with responsibilities listed. I guess he is going to be the recruiting coordinator (which does not count as an assistant coach if they have no coaching responsibilities).
I think you counted Coach Molnar twice
I'm wondering why a championship caliber DII coach would leave to be a DBs coach at a DI school. Obviously he's leaving to go to "Notre Dame" but I guess I expected a better position for Martin. With both coordinators still on board from Cincy, I suspect Kelly has promised him a larger role in the future.
It sounds like he will be getting an associate head coach title as well
Played in '95-96, and had some sort of administrative/grad assistant role on the team in '97.
I didn't know that thanks, still looking back through their profiles myself
Not only did Kelly leave, but he took all their coaches (save for the one who went to Buffalo), the S&C coach, and their left testicle.
Cincy QB coach Forest is also going to Buffalo as Quinn's OC, not everyone is coming to ND from Cincy.
Kelly is bringing 4 coaches from Cincy plus the S&C coach that has been with him since GVSU. Do you think they should all stay at Cincy till the new coach decides whether he wants them before they go to ND?
I wasn't being critical of the coaches or ND. Just pointing out that Cincinnati's program is going to take a huge hit
Yeah but thats my point, Jones is bringing his entire CMU coaching staff with him to Cincy (last I saw) including the GA's. Any hit the Cincy program takes is from a coaching change, not because Kelly is hiring the assistants.
This has to be the first time I gave a +1 to Irish. Thanks for the info, but now I need a shower. I feel so dirty...
is anyone hearing about where Corwin Brown and Tenuta will land?
Haven't heard a thing, they're both taken care of in Weis's buyout so they may not be too concerned about getting back out there this year.
But with UF in flux and TT replacing at least one coach and the trickle down effects of it, they may still land somewhere. Plus there will be moves in the NFL too.
its nice to know ND will be like cincy: all offense, no defense. if anyone saw the pittsburgh game, they will know what i am talking about.
Another reason why we shouldn't be looking to the Big East for adding a 12th B10 team...
We own ND and its good to know their defense will be as bad as ours. I think we'll have the edge in offense for awhile as well...I'm liking our chances going forward.
It's interesting that both Kelly and Rodriguez kept the RB coach as the sole holdover from the previous staffs.
Thanks for the info. I actually like Kelly and have moved Notre Dame behind MSU on my hate scale, although watching Cincy in the bowl game didn't help my opinion of Kelly. It's mostly not his fault, but the NCAA needs to pass a rule that head coaches can't be courted until after bowl season is over (Jan. 8th). It just takes too much away from what the student athletes have and are trying to accomplish.
Watching Charlie's version of ND for the last few years made me miss the Irish that actually ran the ball well. This whole "5 wide pass it all over the park" mentality is feast or famine. See the Cincy vs. Florida bowl this year for evidence. They are moving even further away from a real running game, and that's dangerous. Most teams that only have to defend one part of your attack can really take advantage of it. Add the injured and inexperienced Crist to that equation and it probably means tons of INT's this year for ND.
All in all, it also makes me nervous because our DB's are pretty bad. This will probably be another high scoring shootout to start the year. UConn will not be an easy game either, and I have to admit that this season scares me a bit.
So, Chuck Martin turned down Kelly's previous offer be to the DC at Cincy but decided to be take him up on the offer to be the DB coach at ND.
Does that make sense? I figured if Martin came over he'd do so as DC.
Is going from being a very successful lower level head coach to DB coach at ND an upward move? That strikes me as odd.
He turned down Kelly's offer to go to CMU too. 3rd time is the charm it seems
Denbrock wasn't at Washington last year. He was the OL coach back in 2007 but was let go/not renewed when Ty was fired at UW. IIRC he was actually at Indiana State last year.
Rivals had his last season listed at UW in 2008, I knew I had seen Indiana State mentioned previously with him but erred on the side of Rivals, thanks for the correction.
I mean, Tony Pike was like no. 3 or 4 on the depth chart at Cincy behind Mauk and Grutza, and rose to become a star. Even with Pike down with injury, the backup (So.) Zach Collaros was outstanding. Kelly doesn't screw around at QB. He gets them all ready to contribute.
Crist might be hurt now, but Kelly appears to have some talented options for the future with Crist, Fr. Andi Hendrix, and Fr. Tommy Rees. All are 6-3+, 210+ types. Shame about Crist's ACL because in H.S. (Sherman Oaks, north of LA) he used to be a pretty decent runner.
Yeah Crist is still a runner, which has most ND fans excited about the fit with Kelly, the annoying part is that Crist tore his ACL on a scramble all the complaints that ND should have field turf dried up after that.
Crist's arm is even stronger than Clausen's, he can make throws that I hadn't seen before.