Jury's still out on Rodriguez
My brother-in-law, a die-hard Wolverine fan and long-time high school coach in West Michigan, had dinner with Rich Rod at one of those recent coaching clinics/camps. My brother-in-law was amazed at the amount of F-bombs our esteemed head football coach dropped during their dinner together. He went to Lloyd and Gary Moeller's camps for years and NEVER heard that kind of language thrown around so egregiously.
Let's face it, Rich Rod doesn't come to Ann Arbor with the intellectual and character credentials normally associated with Michigan football coaches. He still has a ton to prove at the big time college level and successful results on the field will make up for his hick-ish, base behavior.
I can forgive our players for the occasional DUI or fight, they're young men after all. The coaches, however, get a much shorter leash. Unless I'm missing something, you never hear stories about Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel or Urban Meyer dropping F-bombs left and right in front of alumni and in-state coaches.
I'm not pining for the good ole days of Lloyd. He had a nice run but the momentum was fading after that Appy State debacle. But since Rich Rod was our third choice, we should afford him that level of respect and devotion until he proves himself.
Let's face it, Rich Rod doesn't come to Ann Arbor with the intellectual and character credentials normally associated with Michigan football coaches. He still has a ton to prove at the big time college level and successful results on the field will make up for his hick-ish, base behavior.
I can forgive our players for the occasional DUI or fight, they're young men after all. The coaches, however, get a much shorter leash. Unless I'm missing something, you never hear stories about Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel or Urban Meyer dropping F-bombs left and right in front of alumni and in-state coaches.
I'm not pining for the good ole days of Lloyd. He had a nice run but the momentum was fading after that Appy State debacle. But since Rich Rod was our third choice, we should afford him that level of respect and devotion until he proves himself.
This thread was awesome.
you fuckin nay-sayin, ass eatin, dick suckin, FUCKTARD!
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you do realize that you just cussed out a moderator here.
Formerlyanonymous has been issued an official MGoBlog uniform, the keys to the blog, and his own decoder ring.
I think that means he has the power to ban your ass.
I dunt know bout the analus guy. I'm yellin swears at the jerk that wrote bad stuff about RR. RR will go 39-0 over the next 3 years an 3 peat like my main man Michele Jordan
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I +1'd you on that.
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That was directed at formerlyanonymous? I'm not sure where that comment was directed. I'm not even sure skunkbears4life knows.
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His post was only 8 minutes after yours, and since his post was 11 words, and spelled correctly (sort of), he would have needed more time.
Thus, the 13 minutes to FA for the 11 word response sort of seemed right.
If you need cussing out, I'll be glad to oblige, though.
And a good cussing out might be a nice change of pace. Have at it...
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Rich Rod looks a lot like the guy from Mary with chidren and I'm sure he scored more than 5 TDs in one game bowled 10 300 games in a row drank 2 cases of Mt. Dew in 2 ours and killed him a bare when he was only 3. 3rd choise is the fist winner! He's gonna win 25 games in a row and than have a higher wining parcentage than stipid loser Lloyd
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I don't think anyone won with that comment.
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The problem is I can't tell if this was a parody or if this guy is the New Genius of MGoBlog.
[EDIT: "Rich Rod looks a lot like the guy from Mary with chidren" Does that mean that skunkbears4life thinks that RR looks like Joseph or Jesus?]
Or a CMU alumni. No Sugar Coat.
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If he starts winning will your brother be turned off?
I fucking won't be. I will be cheering like fucking hell.
Fuck Yeah............
Does anyone know if Rich Rod billsonated at the dinner as well?
this summer I attended an alumni gathering with Mr. Rodriguez and he said things like “poo” and “ass” and “crap”…just awful awful things that made my ass hurt. He’s a bad man and he needs to go to the Church Service on Ann St. immediately. I want 30 hail Mary’s from him and not the kind where you throw a ball of foot really far but one to the lord Jesus Christ our savior holy holy and not the kind of “hail” they do on Saturdays in the large house of ball of foot.
This post has become a delightful exercise in schadenfreude...BlueFront95's fall from grace among this blog's community of readers has reached the proportions of a Greek or Shakespearian proprtions. He is -511 as I write this. I am astounded that people are still responding to this post. Soon his name will be attached to forum behaviour that results in this kind of epic negative response, as in: "Dude, looks like this post is going to go "BlueFront"" on you, or "Careful, comments like that might get you the "BlueFront" treatment." And as a cautionary insult, "Don't be a "BlueFront"."
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Classic
I particularly like "Don't be a bluefront."
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Hm, let's take a look here.
"He still has a ton to prove at the big time college level and successful results on the field will make up for his hick-ish, base behavior."
Okay, that's a stereotype, and not even a really accurate one. Lots of people say "fuck" a lot; most of them are not "hicks".
"I can forgive our players for the occasional DUI or fight, they're young men after all. The coaches, however, get a much shorter leash. Unless I'm missing something, you never hear stories about Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel or Urban Meyer dropping F-bombs left and right in front of alumni and in-state coaches."
Uh, DUIs and fights are horrible. People die due to drunk driving, and fights are the worst example for other players and the program's image. Swearing by a coach is far more minor, even irrelevant, than a player getting into a fight. I have no idea where your priorities come from; people who are 18-22 are still adults and should be treated as such. Drunk driving =/= swearing; not even close.
"But since Rich Rod was our third choice, we should afford him that level of respect and devotion until he proves himself."
I'm pretty sure he was our second choice, unless you count Ferentz and Schiano as both being ahead of him. I think Schiano was the only one who was actually offered the job per se. At any rate, he was the choice and he's our coach. No point in being an ass about it. Perhaps the school you attend because you didn't get into your top choices shouldn't get any respect either?
The general reaction to this post was rather stupid and over the top. People seem to have too much free time to bother with 400+ thumbs down. However, this post itself is stupid and illogical, and illogical comparisons to Iran don't change the fact that you didn't think about your argument or give logic to support it. From what I can tell, this blog likes writers who provide logic to back up their viewpoints; you are not one of them.
I could pick your arguments apart line by line Stunna (nice handle, sounds so Vanilla Ice), but that would be glossing over the details. Let's really focus and criticize your post letter by letter...
"H" - You should never start a post with this weak-ass consonant.
"m" - Better, reminds me of Michigan.
"," - Maybe next time use an exclamation point for emphasis.
"l" - L is for loser, you already knew that.
"e" - Can I buy a vowel Pat?
"t" - This is making me tired.
"'" - You chose a contraction over "let us", bold move.
"s" - S is for Spock, master of logic and your idol.
Live long and prosper.
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The OP flatters himself and his recent celebrity. It's not so much that he's "hit a nerve" as his post is completely without merit. The audience reaction is not one of genuine anger (mostly)... WE ARE LAUGHING AT YOU.
Take this gem, right off the bat:
My brother-in-law was amazed at the amount of F-bombs our esteemed head football coach dropped during their dinner together
What, exactly, is this amount? Is it one? Or one thousand? Those are both amounts and some people may find the former in extreme distaste (I know people from West Michigan who think it's a sin to utter such verbal abominations as "darn" or "gosh" -- being surrogates for genuinely profane words). Others may find the latter to be entirely acceptable. The crux of your entire post is completely ambiguous... there is literally no substance here.
But it's just starting to get fun.
Rich Rod doesn't come to Ann Arbor with the intellectual and character credentials normally associated with Michigan football coaches
Any credibility you had has immediately been demolished. Your brother-in-law is guilty by association. Also, it shows that you're a pretentious ass.
...successful results on the field will make up for his hick-ish, base behavior.
This is my favorite. Not only do you hammer home the fact that you are a self-important sack of offal discharge, you make clear that you wouldn't care about his swearing if he had won more games. Wins > character. Nice.
You proceed to vouch for the acceptability of young men to commit assault and drive drunk -- both of which could lead to the serious injury or death of completely innocent individuals, while cursing offends only certain folks' moral vanity.
As for the context of other coaches dropping F-bombs as an excuse, I'm sure that many practices and games have abundant alumni and local coaches in attendance.
Finally, you seem to be on the verge of making a point at the end, but appear to have trodden upon your own phallus and prematurely topped off.
That's right, Dude. 100% certain.
I like the phrase "moral vanity".
That is all. +1
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-do-we-swear
Swearing is good for you!!!!
Yeah, I don't really agree with most of the sentiment of the OP or the subsequent posts that almost imply "OMFG TOLEDO FIRE HIM ARRGHGHGGHHH!!!!!!!!111!"
But the complete abuse of the point system in this thread is very disappointing. I posted a logical, reasoned post somewhere on page two that defended the idea that RR (or anyone representing the University) needs to have some accountability in public. I has making a harmless point - I was agreeing with some of the sentiment of the OP, but since I was of the minority opinion, I got flamed and was issued a wrath of negative points (after which I went to my room and cried until dawn).
Negative points should not be used because you simply disagree with a post.
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I agree that negative points shouldn't be assigned just because you disagree, but do you believe that's what is going on here? I don't. I think everyone is hammering a troll, and I agree with it.
Shorter BlueFront:
I heard a story that RichRod cursed in front of a lot of people. I don't want a hick to be the M coach. Looks like the jury's still out on RichRod.
Good faith arguments can be dealt with without negative points. Bad faith assertions that are explicitly designed to "get a reaction" (which is exactly what BlueFront said downthread), however, should be dealt with severely, IMHE.
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Quoted*3 for emphasis.
If one is inclined to step back and look at this post to analyse what happened here to create such an epic negative response to a particular poster and a set of posts, I would have to disagree that the response comes from people simply disagreeing with a post. The original post had a "gotcha" feel to it. By this I mean, it stank of someone who themselves already has a strong dislike for coach Rodrigues, of someone who never thought he should have been hired in the first place, and of someone who sits around waiting and looking for coach to "slip up" so he will be justified in calling for his head and getting him fired. It seems like his brother-in-law is of the same mindset.
You can almost here him pleading with us, "I don't like him, never have, and I can't understand why the rest of you give him the benefit of the doubt; but look, see, he was swearing at a coaches dinner. How can we let such a foul mouthed hick continue to ruin "our" program? Come one guys, you have to see it now. There is no way for you to deny it now. You have to see that he is a bad coach who is one step from being fired. Come one, now you have to hate him the way we do, you just have to."
But the community here is, for the most part, not a group that dislikes coach Rodrigues and are not looking for "gotcha" moments to use to call for his head. Do they like going 3-9? Of course not. Do they have high expectations? Absolutely. We expect our program to be among the very best in the nation. Does he embody all of the best qualities of Lloyd Carr that we all came to love? Nope. But he does not pretend to be that man either. Most of us here, in spite of the intense scrutiny that coach Rodrigues is under as Michigan's head coach, in spite of the criticisms we might have, most of us see enough in what he is doing and has already done at Michigan to be cautiously optimistic that this thing will turn around and we will soon enough be a terror, not just in the Big Ten, but nationally. There is enough there to give him our support and ride out this re-building process.
I think the whole "gotcha" thing touched a nerve here and people recognized that you and from what it sounds like your brother-in-law have an agenda and an axe to grind when it come to Rich Rodrigues. So yes, people called into question yours and your brother-in-law's credibility. The attacked you openly with the vitriol that was veiled under your "concerned" posting. From there it spiraled down at an epic rate.
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agenda for about 17 months now. It started out as "let's fire the lying hillbilly" but has long since downward spiraled into a general dislike of Michigan fans (because most of us are optimistic about Coach Rod). If you've frequented Freep or Mlive comment sections over the past year and a half you would definitely know what I'm talking about.
I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.
You could not pay me to wander into those back alleys of forum commenting...ungh
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to stay clear. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.
I backed off the hick comment about 48 hours ago and I never said that I didn't like the new coach. You can characterize and read between the lines till your blue in the face for all I care.
By the way, if "spiraled down at an epic rate" = 7,000 views and 350 comments, so be it. At least my post is interesting.
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FWIW, if this were a chat room, I would have stuck you on ignore and been done with this whole thing long ago. The fact is, I keep driving by here to watch this wreck, to the point where i am beginning to wonder myself why I find this so facinating.
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The unibomber was famous too. You must be very proud of your new found noteriety. And you assume too much about what you wrote. People were not coming here because they were so captivated by the things you wrote. This is like an bad car crash during rush hour. People were stopping here to "rubberneck" and watch with facination as you made an epic death spiral. Don't be so quick to pat yourself on the back.
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and I gave you positive points on this comment and the previous one for that reason.
It's a damn shame that an absurd amount of negative points doesn't automatically lead to the banhammer...
Unpopular posts/opinions should be suppressed. We're seeking affirmation, not information.
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I think of Kevin Spacey's character from the movie "Seven". Weird.
I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.
At least Kevin Spacey's character in "Seven" was smart. Although I would've preferred a comparison to his character in "Usual Suspects".
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The original article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8147170.stm
Runners World blog, where I originally found this:
http://dailyviews.runnersworld.com/2009/07/do-you-swear-maybe-you-should...
Swearing reduces pain, its science.
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"Unless I'm missing something, you never hear stories about Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel or Urban Meyer dropping F-bombs left and right in front of alumni and in-state coaches."
Occasionally you'll see YouTubes of Carroll bleeping it up, and I think it's pretty ludicrous to suggest that Tressel and Meyer don't cuss. You are indeed missing something.
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Count me as a skeptic that RR was channelling Charlie Weis with the F bomb. I've spent a fair amount of time w/ RR and haven't seen (or heard) that behavior. While RR clearly has a different style than Carr, Moeller and Bo, he comes across as a pretty genuine guy - less intellectual than Carr, less of an imposing presence than Bo, but actually fairly similar to Moeller in that he's knowledgeable and passionate about the game and his players - very down to earth - give him a chance to prove himself on the field this year.
I'm not questioning my brother-in-law's account, but he hasn't spent a lot of time around Coach Rod either and was making some assumptions based on an isolated experience.
If you have a favorable impression of him (Moeller actually seems like a good guy, even if he did mess up), that's actually reassuring.
This is what I was looking for... A response to the post as opposed to a personal attack.
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Would you go the fuck away already?
I said - not good enough.
Nobody's forcing you to be here.
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But we are hoping we can force YOU to leave. Not because you have a dissenting opinion. But because you are making baseless accusations about a coaches character without so much as a shred of factual evidence.
I hope Brian tweaks the point system again soon. There needs to be a negative point total that initiates a ban. And then the only way a troll (such as yourself) could come back on here would be for Brian to reinstate him himself.
Seriously, your becoming tiresome.
Are you really proud of how many negative points you are building up? Wow...
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me.
I lost, hard.
I have a question for you Bluefront95.
How come are you primarily responding to the posts which are calling you a troll or just saying 'fuckidy fuckidy fuck' and NOT responding to the posts which are the start of a serious honest debate on the topic?
I still have yet to get a reply to the idea that times have changed and swearing to youth/younger adults does not have the same meaning as to younger adults/'get of my lawn' types. In our 2009 culture, I suggest that you can swear and be a very respectful person, as in helping the old lady across the street but telling the texting driver that almost runs you and the old lady over to fuck off.
If you reply and call me a moose humping park ranger (again) you shall be known as a troll.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me.
This is precisely the point. No one cares about swearing anymore. It's as American as lamb and tuna fish. Or spaghetti and meatballs, if you so choose.
I walked into a Schnuck's today (Meijier-ish) and two girls were yelling "Fuck you, bitch" at an infant, yes an infant. Albeit, I was slightly shocked, but no one seemed to care. Swearing is so common now it almost doesn't matter. If you don't want to hear a football coach swear, just watch the games and that's it. You might want to leave the sound off though, and not try to make out what he mouthed to his players. That's your best bet. Doesn't mean you don't have class or respect for other people any more. Just means you're intense as shit.
Seriously, an infant.
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