Juice Williams, Arrelious Benn, Corey Wootton, Brandon Saine, Cameron Heyward, Daryll Clark, Evan Royster, Andrew Quarless, Sean Lee, Navarro Bowman, John Clay
Seeing these key B10 players on the list make me feel so much better about next year
|QB||Sam Bradford||Oklahoma||Declared||4 star|
|QB||Jevan Snead||Mississippi||4 star|
|QB||Ryan Mallett||Arkansas||5 star|
|QB||Jimmy Clausen||Notre Dame||Declared||5 star|
|QB||Case Keenum||Houston||2 star|
|RB||Jonathan Dwyer||Georgia Tech||4 star|
|RB||Evan Royster||Penn State||Declared||3 star|
|RB||John Clay||Wisconsin||4 star|
|RB||Brandon Saine||Ohio State||4 star|
|RB||Toby Gerhart||Stanford||3 star|
|RB||Jahvid Best||California||Declared||4 star|
|RB||DeMarco Murray||Oklahoma||5 star|
|RB||Harvey Unga||BYU||2 star|
|RB||Joe McKnight||Southern California||5 star|
|RB||Darren Evans||Virginia Tech||4 star|
|RB||Delone Carter||Syracuse||4 star|
|RB||Ryan Mathews||Fresno State||Declared||2 star|
|WR||Dez Bryant||Oklahoma State||Declared||4 star|
|WR||Arrelious Benn||Illinois||Declared||5 star|
|WR||Damian Williams||Southern California||4 star|
|WR||Dezmon Briscoe||Kansas||Declared||2 star|
|WR||Demaryius Thomas||Georgia Tech||3 star|
|WR||Golden Tate||Notre Dame||Declared||4 star|
|WR||Vincent Brown||San Diego State||3 star|
|WR||Chris Bell||Norfolk State||5 star|
|WR||Dane Sanzenbacher||Ohio State||4 star|
|WR||Mike Williams||Syracuse||Declared||2 star|
|TE||Rob Gronkowski||Arizona||4 star|
|TE||Aaron Hernandez||Florida||5 star|
|TE||Weslye Saunders||South Carolina||4 star|
|TE||Jermaine Gresham||Oklahoma||Declared||4 star|
|OT||Brian Bulaga||Iowa||4 star|
|OT||Anthony Davis||Rutgers||Declared||5 star|
|OT||Gabe Carimi||Wisconsin||3 star|
|OT||Jason Pinkston||Pittsburgh||4 star|
|OT||Bruce Campbell||Maryland||Declared||4 star|
|OL||Bryant Browning||Ohio State||3 star|
|OL||Justin Boren||Ohio State||5 star|
|OL||Maurkice Pouncey||Florida||4 star|
|OL||Mike Pouncey||Florida||4 star|
|DE||Carlos Dunlap||Florida||5 star|
|DE||Cliff Matthews||South Carolina||5 star|
|DE||Cameron Heyward||Ohio State||4 star|
|DE||Derrick Morgan||Georgia Tech||4 star|
|DE||Everson Griffen||Southern California||Declared||5 star|
|DE||Greg Romeus||Pittsburgh||2 star|
|DE||Jason Pierre-Paul||South Florida||5 star JC|
|DE||Thaddeus Gibson||Ohio State||4 star|
|DE||Adrian Clayborn||Iowa||4 star|
|DE||Justin Trattou||Florida||5 star|
|DE||Ryan Kerrigan||Purdue||3 star|
|DE||Kevin Basped||Nevada||2 star|
|DE||Dontay Moch||Nevada||2 star|
|DT||Gerald McCoy||Oklahoma||Declared||5 star|
|DT||Brian Price||UCLA||Declared||5 star|
|DT||Marvin Austin||North Carolina||5 star|
|DT||Allen Bailey||Miami (Fla.)||5 star|
|DT||Stephen Paea||Oregon State||3 star JC|
|DT||Abe Koroma||Western Illinois||Declared||3 star|
|ILB||Rolando McClain||Alabama||4 star|
|ILB||Scott Lutrus||UConn||2 star|
|ILB||Quan Sturdivant||North Carolina||4 star|
|ILB||Travis Lewis||Oklahoma||4 star|
|OLB||Greg Jones||Michigan State||3 star|
|OLB||Navorro Bowman||Penn State||Declared||4 star|
|OLB||Rennie Curran||Georgia||4 star|
|OLB||Bruce Carter||North Carolina||3 star|
|OLB||Von Miller||Texas A&M||4 star|
|CB||Joe Haden||Florida||Declared||4 star|
|CB||DeAndre Morgan||North Carolina State||3 star|
|CB||Ras-I Dowling||Virginia||2 star|
|CB||Donovan Warren||Michigan||Declared||5 star|
|CB||Kareem Jackson||Alabama||3 star|
|CB||Dominique Franks||Oklahoma||4 star|
|CB||Amari Spievey||Iowa||2 star|
|CB||Johnny Patrick||Louisville||3 star|
|CB||Chimdi Chekwa||Ohio State||2 star|
|CB||Jimmy Smith||Colorado||3 star|
|CB||Kendric Burney||North Carolina||3 star|
|CB||Devon Torrence||Ohio State||4 star|
|S||Eric Berry||Tennessee||Declared||5 star|
|S||Morgan Burnett||Georgia Tech||4 star|
|S||Reshad Jones||Georgia||4 star|
|S||Major Wright||Florida||5 star|
|S||Chad Jones||LSU||5 star|
|S||Deunta Williams||North Carolina||4 star|
|S||Jermale Hines||Ohio State||4 star|
|RB||Daniel Dufrene*||Demetrius McCray*||Brandon Minor|
|RB||Bryan Payton*||Carlos Brown*|
|WR||Arrelious Benn**||Trey Stross||Greg Matthews|
|WR||Chris Duvalt||LaTerryal Savoy*|
|TE||Michael Hoomanawanui||Troy Wagner||Tony Moeaki|
|OT||Rodger Saffold||Kyle Calloway||Mark Ortmann|
|OG||Jon Asamoah||Pete Saxon||Andy Kuempel*||David Moosman|
|OG||Mike Reiter*||Dace Richardson|
|C||Eric Block||Rafael Eubanks|
|DE||Antonio James||Greg Middleton||Chad Geary*||Brandon Graham|
|DE||Doug Pilcher||Jammie Kirlew||Adrian Clayborn**||Adam Patterson*|
|DT||Rahkeem Smith*||Travis Meade*|
|LB||Will Patterson||A.J. Edds|
|LB||Justin Carrington*||Pat Angerer|
|CB||Dere Hicks||Amari Spievey**||Donovan Warren**|
|S||Donsay Hardeman||Austin Thomas||Steve Brown|
|P||Anthony Santella||Zolton Mesko|
|Michigan State||Minnesota||Northwestern||Ohio State|
|WR||Blair White||Ben Kuznia*||Andrew Brewer||Ray Small*|
|WR||Kevin Frymire||Dane Sanzenbacher**|
|TE||Nick Tow-Arnett||Jake Ballard|
|OT||Rocco Cironi||Matt Stommes*||Kurt Mattes*||Jim Cordle|
|OG||Brendon Moss||Desmond Taylor*||Bryant Browning**|
|C||Joel Nitchman||Andrew Moses*|
|DE||Trevor Anderson||Cedric McKinley||Corey Wootton||Cameron Heyward**|
|DE||Colin Neely||Barrett Moen||Thaddeus Gibson**|
|DE||Derrick Onwuachi*||Lawrence Wilson*|
|DT||Michael Jordan*||Eric Small||Adam Hahn||Todd Denlinger|
|DT||Garrett Brown||Marshall Thomas*||Doug Worthington|
|LB||Brandon Denson||Simoni Lawrence||Austin Spitler|
|LB||Greg Jones**||Rex Sharpe*|
|LB||Adam Decker*||Nate Triplett|
|CB||Jeremy Ware||Traye Simmons||Sherrick McManis||Chimdi Chekwa**|
|CB||Ross Weaver*||Marcus Sherels||Devon Torrence**|
|S||K. Davis-Clark*||Brad Phillips||Kurt Coleman|
|S||Ashton Henderson*||Brendan Smith||Anderson Russell|
|P||Blake Haudan||Jon Thoma|
|QB||Daryll Clark||Joey Elliott|
|RB||Evan Royster||Jaycen Taylor*||John Clay**|
|WR||Brett Brackett||Royce Adams*|
|WR||Graham Zug||Aaron Valentin|
|TE||Mickey Shuler||Mickey Turner|
|OT||Dennis Landolt||Zach Jones|
|OG||Lou Eliades||Zach Reckman|
|C||Doug Klopacz*||Jared Zwilling|
|DE||Jerome Hayes||Keyon Brown*||O'Brien Schofield|
|DT||Jared Odrick||Mike Neal||Daniel Moore|
|DT||Ollie Ogbu||Dan Cascone*|
|LB||Sean Lee||Jason Werner||Jaevery McFadden|
|CB||Knowledge Timmons||Brandon King|
|CB||A.J. Wallace*||David Pender|
|S||Cedric Jeffries*||Torri Williams||Chris Maragos|
|P||Jeremy Boone||Chris Summers|
Juice Williams, Arrelious Benn, Corey Wootton, Brandon Saine, Cameron Heyward, Daryll Clark, Evan Royster, Andrew Quarless, Sean Lee, Navarro Bowman, John Clay
Seeing these key B10 players on the list make me feel so much better about next year
unless a bunch of OSU players declare. They have a bunch on defense they don't want to lose.
I agree with the other responder that you're wrong that our 2 losses make us the #3 talent loser in the conference (Warren fell off a lot in second half; Graham should have been co-B10 D-player of year, but along with fellow departers Jones, Bowman, and Angerer.) Still, I tipped you one to undo an undeserved negbang.
to me, turnover among stars will matter most for the second tier teams (ie, not OSU, PSU, Iowa, or Wisc -- don't ask where I think UM fits). Losing a Kafka or a Benn, or even an Elliot, is a big setback for a Northwestern, an Illinois, or a Purdue. Off the cuff, then, among the four I singled out (plus MSU and us, for good measure), it is the loss of trench-men and defensive stars that hurt.
Among those 6, I'd say Iowa takes the biggest hit, Sparty the second (assuming Jones goes). PSU is next, but may be better able to reload than UM, which is fourth. OSU has presumptive reloading prospects, and Wiscy take a pretty light hit, assuming that there is someone there to replace Clay (as there was after Dayne, and after Calhoun).
a dude named Persa, isn't going to be much of a downgrade if at all. Northwestern will suffer most from losing two good senior safeties.
Totally agree, Mike Kafka isn't exactly what one would call irreplaceable in either his mental or physical skill set.
Thanks for the breakdown.
Kudos to you, sir. Fine effort.
I do have one piece of constructive feedback, and that would be to go one step further with some qualitative analysis. The issue with quantifying the turnover in this fashion is that it does not distinguish the loss of Brandon Graham from Jason Olesnavage - each simply add 1 to the total loss column. In order to better understand how these losses are likely to affect each team on the field next year, a more nuanced (and subjective) analysis would need to be performed.
But again - great job, and thanks for taking the time to compile the data.
You are right. I considered excluding kickers and punters all together, but I decided to include everyone and let the readers interpret the data themselves. Obviously the loss of Zoltan may mean more to us than the loss of a mere mortal punter to another team.
As I mentioned in another post, it's hard to quantify the value of certain players to their teams. Adam Patterson is listed as a "contributing back up" and that is debatable. It is difficult to identify true losses to a team unless you are a close follower of that team. That's why we can point to Patterson and Savoy and say "no big loss", as other teams can probably say the same thing about a few of their own players.
Re: reloading, any comments in particular as regards PSU & OSU?
With regards to Penn State, they redshirt just about everyone so their depth is exceptional. I suspect they will be slightly impacted by losses since they are losing eight offensive starters and seven on defense but like pre-RR Michigan, the system seems to be in place to reload on the fly.
I have to say the same thing about OSU (I'm sure they have quality depth), losing 10 starters on defense and six on offense may take some time to effectively "reload" but I'm sure they have talent hidden on the bench.
Clearly PSU and OSU recruit well every year so losing stars won't hurt them as much as other teams in the Big Ten.
according to The Plain Dealer on 1/5, Gibson is leaving tOSU, but Heyward and Cheekwa have announced they are returning.
Next year is going to be a strange year for college football. I feel like there will be far fewer huge senior years, since a large portion of the big-talent juniors are looking to up and leave.
Interesting notion: What if the NFL required a degree in order to play? I think it'd improve the college game.
Interesting question: As of 2003/04 only 46% of nfl players had a degree. This is likely to go down with the flood of juniors this year.
Right, I meant in the sense of what if they put it in the new contract that every rookie from that point forward had to have a 4-year degree from an accredited university?
I understand. I was providing some context there. You would lose half of the players as it stands now. obvs it would go up, but with that high of a percentage there is now way it would ever pass and is probably ridiculously illegal to discriminate in that way (lawyers on here could clarify I'm sure). As a hypothetical, it would with all possible certainty improve the quality of players and play in college.
There is nothing illegal about requiring a college degree for employment. I assume a grandfather clause would be used for players presently without one.
true...don't know what I was thinking about there. It definitely would not make sense for the NFL to have that requirement - an athletically based job requiring a degree for employment. I don't think the owners would ever want it and and the NFLPA would never let it happen, regardless.
As another poster said, the NFLPA would not go for it. However, with the average playing life of an NFL player at 3.52 years (http://www.seattlepi.com/football/362412_nflhealth09.html) it would be in the best interest of the players to get the degree so they could do something with their lives once they are done. How many stories have there been over the years of players entering bankruptcy because they have blown through all the money they have made during their careers. Throw in there the number of career ending or crippling injuries every year and the NFL becomes a real crap shoot.
Maybe an alternative to requiring a degree to enter the NFL would be to require players to complete their degrees within X number of years.
As a college FB fan, I too am disappointed every time a talented underclassman leaves early for the pros (except, of course, when the player in question belongs to a UM rival). However, if I put myself in the player's shoes, it's a no-brainer: if I am good enough to go pro, I do it as soon as I can, every time.
Between a decent signing bonus and a couple seasons at $1M or close to it, you can be financially set for life by your early to mid twenties. From a purely financial perspective, I'd feel a hell of a lot more secure with $2.5 million in the bank than with a four-year BGS degree. If you have the money, you can always go back to school later--but if you blow out your knee or get a couple concussions, you may not be able to repair the damage to your NFL draft prospects.
The fact of the matter is, major college football programs, with the complicity of the NFL, exploit the heck out of their star players. A full-ride scholarship is a pretty good deal for most guys on the roster, but not for the handful that could be raking in hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars per year, but for arbitrary rules like the "3 years from high school" policy. Requiring players to remain in college yet another year, let alone to obtain a college degree as a condition for playing NFL ball, would only deepen the inequity.
I see your point. However, where you or I may be financially set with 2.5 million dollars, many professional athletes squander that money.
Take a look at this article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index...
The number that stood out to me was that 78% of former NFL players are bankrupt or under financial stress. Even if they are able to pay their creditors, they will not have money to live off the interest and without a college degree they are not very employable.
I understand the "go now because you may blow out your knee tomorrow" mantra, however the NFL needs to do a better job of educating their players in regards to long term financial health. Players cannot be expected to do it alone when there are agents, friends, companies all clamoring for the players to sign endorsement deals and invest in can't miss businesses.
It may not be realistic to force players to complete their degree prior to entering the NFL, but it might be reasonable for there to be a system in place for completing their degrees over a few years. I think teachers in Michigan are required to complete a certain number of credits beyond their bachelor's degree after so many years of teaching (I'm not sure of the details). Obviously this is not completely analogous, but why is it so far fetched to do this in professional sports? I think there is a generalization that many pro athletes are uneducated and this would be one way to change the NFL's image. Chances are this will not happen.
More realistically, the NFL should set up a system that requires players to participate in financial education and potentially go so far as help them manage their finances.
Completing a degree doesn't guarantee that they will learn anything about money management. Nor does it mean that they will complete a degree that provides a marketable skill when they start looking for a job.
I think your suggestion the the NFL should do a better job of educating players is a good one. Most of these players are short-sighted. They don't believe that their career will only last 4 or 5 years. It might make more sense for the NFL to encourage a portion of each contract to be deferred until a player exits the league. At least then, they will know that they have entered the real world with a limited budget.
I have not studied the other teams, but clearly Patterson has never been a key contributor to the Michigan defense; more like the Invisible Man. Most of us had great hopes for #99 when he surprisingly went Blue, but he has been singularly unimpressive to three defensive coordinators and countless assistants. The fact that he has been given almost no playing time at a position of little depth speaks volumes, and this culminated last year when he was buried beneath Heininger (no disrespect). He is the Doug Dutch of the defensive line and this is despite that fact that he is rumored to be a hard worker (as per GBMW).
I would also strike Savoy from the list as he was in no way "key". Did we really take him over DeSean Jackson?!
Even Olesnavage is marginal as we have a fine redshirt freshman kicker to take his place and he was only reasonably competent.
So my count for UM would come to only 9 which makes us look even better except for the obvious and already posted fact that we are losing the three best players from our dismal defense and that includes BG who was an Extraordinary talent by any standard. That said, I understand that this is a generalized overview of what teams will be losing and I very much appreciate the effort put into it and the inspiration to invent this interesting perspective. Thanks.
This is based on the depth charts from Rivals, player stats from Fox Sports (which only show offensive stats), and eligibility from Scout.
I agree that it's hard to call Patterson and Savoy "key contributors" but it's hard to distinguish our questionable back ups from the other team's questionable back ups. I'm sure MSU fans or OSU fans could point to players on the list that weren't valuable to them either, so it made no sense to distinguish.
I have changed the label from "key contributor" to "contributor."
Since I have been expecting a "we're baaaaack" 9-3 record the last two years, I have no reason to change my expectations. Hopefully, this is the year that UM regains its spot in the "Big Three." And, of course, this is hopefully the year when the evil scarlet and gray watches the pendulum swing back toward Michigan.
Considering how things are playing out in the NFL, this seems like it might be the best time for Michigan to have a few "down years" (though I would prefer that there were none). Sure losing Warren is big, but better this happens now, than a year we were stocked with non-seniors, e.g. 2006 with Henne, Hart, and co, who would be tempted to jump to the NFL sooner than they might in a normal year.
Again, I would prefer 13-0 every year, but if we have to have a down era, this seems to be the best time for it to happen.
An update from Iowa for what it is worth, Adrian Clayborn has already declared he is going to stay and the word here is that Bulaga and Spievey are both leaving early. Bulaga will annouce tonight after the Orange Bowl. Thought this might update the numbers a litte.
Great post - thanks for the work. Very interesting to see where teams need to fill holes. We saw that Penn State had a tough time replacing offensive line starters and the entire wide receiving corp and kick returners. (obvs still kicked Michigan's ass, but didn't really compete for the conference championship).
Conversely, OSU reloaded that defense like whoa. I don't know if they can do that 2 years in a row, though.
Wisconsin only losing 9 people potentially is SCARY...although Schofield and Clay were enormous for their team this year, that team should be crushing people next year. NW losing Kafka really hurts.
Iowa will most likely take a step back as their players typically take longer to develop.
EARLY prediction of conference results based on flimsy evidence:
3 Michigan (whaaa!!?!?!)
I see the order more like this in 2010:
The above three will be the clear leaders in the conference, fighting for the Big 10 title IMO.
4) Penn St.
5) Michigan St.
The five listed above will qualify for bowl games.
Frown-ey faces for the above three teams.
Wisconsin will win the Big Ten, I think. Solid team, good lines, tons of returning experience (plus a good returning quarterback), a little momentum, Ohio State at home...
I think Indiana will surprise next year. They showed a lot of improvement and i think they could finish as high as 6th in the big ten. Also I think Minnesota will finish last, MSU is the wild card after playing well in the bowl game but losing so many players next season.
1 OSU... lets be real, i know it sucks
The only problem is that IU loses its three best defensive players (Kirlew, Marberry and that other end who is good, but not as good as Kirlew) and that was their weakest area as a team. I don't see how they can lose the only three guys they had who were good in run support and suddenly be formidable enough to stop big ten offenses.
Good stuff. The breakdown was especially helpful for offense/defense.
Outside of Grahama, Mesko, and (somewhat) Warren, the team isn't losing anyone I would term irreplaceable. Sure, Graham was as dominant a defensive player as anyone in the country (and that includes Suh) and Mesko bailed out the offense numerous times with great field position for the D, but the heart of this team returns, and that is encouraging.
Of the teams on this list, I expect Illinois, MSU, and PSU (somewhat) to show the greatest drop in performance with all of the matriculation. Illinois is going to lose most of its gamebreakers in Benn and Juice, and if Dell is also suspended along with White leaving, that offense isn't going to scare anyone, plus their defense loses one of the few major pieces in Jones. Others have chronicled who is leaving PSU, but that offense will look drastically different than the HD one that has been dominating the Big 10 for the past few years.
It looks like college football is morphing into the problems of college basketball. Sure, it will never be as bad as a football player coming for a single year (like basketball) but the better the player the less likely he will ever stay around for the 4th year of eligibility.
The fact that Henne, Hart, and Long all stayed (and probably saved Lloyd from a most inauspicious departure) is unlikely to ever happen in the future.
I actually believe the exact opposite of what you say will occur. With a future cap on rookie contracts, it may encourage players to come back for a 4th year because they will no longer be guaranteed to make millions if they happen to slide in the draft.
As long as the "Three years removed from high school" rule stays in place, college football will continue to have far more talented players than college basketball.
This potential uncapped year bodes very well for Michigan in 2010. I would feel much better about our chances in the Wisconsin game if John Clay weren't playing.
1) The NFL has a lot more roster spots available every year compared to the number of NBA slots for college players. In the NBA, you have to jump when your stock peaks the first time so that you get that roster spot with a 1st rd pick.
2) One thing that may change the calculus is the UFL. I know a lot of people laughed it off this year, but if the NFL locks out in 2011, there still will be a cadre of graduating NCAA football players looking for work who would typically be 1-3 rd draft picks that will not be in the NFLPA getting strike checks. These players may go to the UFL to get a paycheck, immediately upgrade the talent and profile of the UFL, and consequently may unintentionally setup the UFL as a minor league for the NFL when the NFL comes back from the lockout.
not Georgia Tech University
unless you were making fun of stephon marbury, if so i will +1 you accordingly
for what its worth, i think only Morgan goes
the AJC is reporting that 2011 MNC talk has begun among the players
Thanks for the catch. I cut and pasted the list into my spreadsheet from NFL Draft Bible and didn't notice the error.
Ha I was really confused when I saw a five star Norfolk State WR I shoulda known he's a transfer
How much do our low numbers have to do with the stats posted in the Decimated Defense article? If no one's left from 5 years ago, and like 5% from 4 years ago, there aren't a whole lot of players to leave.
Not a whole lot of defensive players, that is.
With 20 of the 87, the B10 is disproportionately represented in the early entry interest list in comparison to other major conferences. The SEC is close. At any rate, that probably doesn't bode well for conference strength in near term if a lot of these kids go.
By comparison and my own informal count of other BCS conference players on list:
SEC = 17 (Florida with 6)
ACC = 13 (NC with 5, Ga Tech with 4)
B12 = 10 (Oklahoma with 6)
Pac10 = 8
Big East = 5
That is a list of everyone who requested their draft rating from the NFL. By NO means are the majority of those people going pro.
Looking at OSU specifically:
Brandon Saine? - no
Chmidi Chekwa? - no, has stated he will return
Cameron Heyward? - could, but has declared he will return
Dane Sanzenbacher? - no
Bryant Browning? - no
Justin Boren? - no
Devin Torrence? - no
Jermale Hines? - maybe
Thaddeus Gibson? - gone
That's one, maybe 2 of those that will not return.
UMHero....I think your numbers are off on starters/contributors.
If you go by the last depth chart of the year, OSU returns 9 starters on O and 5 on D.
My source was Rivals. I haven't watched every team to know anything more than what they show on their site.
As was stated, there are a lot of maybes involved with the players who could declare early. The fact that most of the teams in the league are going to have to replace upperclass starters and contributors while the bulk of UM's talent is located in its upcoming JR and SO classes bodes well for the near future.
..a third asterisk by Justin Boren's name. Should have read:
* indicates non-starting contributor
** indicates early entrant
*** indicates complete douche bag
+1 for you sir
Really interesting to see the breakdown. PSU, wow, that's a rebuilding job. It's too bad we have to play them on the road. I didn't realize MSU was losing so much; they'll probably be overrated by the media because their QBs/RBs are coming back, but they've got massive holes to fill. Iowa, too, could have problems replacing so many guys up front.
Penn State and ND will be in a world of hurt next year. IIRC, PSU classes from 2006 to 2008 had a complete lack of skill players, and ND from 2006-2008 had very, very few defensive recruits. I could be wrong, but this might finally catch up to PSU with sophomore Newsome at QB. Also, even with Kelly, ND is going to be in a world of hurt (losing Claussen, Tate, 3 OL, 5 defenders).
The Penn State list is messed up.
Royster announced he's returning, though Bowman has announced he's gone.
Clark, Shuler, Quarless, Landolt, Poti, McCormack, Hayes, Odrick, Lee, Hull, Timmons, and Wallace all have expired eligibility (Hayes was rumored to be seeking a 6th year, but has announced he will not do so).
However, Brackett, Zug, Pannell, Eliades, Ogbu, Gbadyu, Jeffries, and Wagner all have eligibility left, and seem highly unlikely to enter the draft.
And listing Mauti, Klopacz, Golarz, and McCullough as "contributors" is quite a stretch.
This isn't to dispute that Penn State loses a lot; they do, but not as much as suggested by this list.