The Generation Gap and Reactions to Rodriguez

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Some people are obsessed with Rich Rodriguez. I’m obsessed with why so many people seem to hate him. I wrote a half-tongue-in-cheek analysis of the RichRod haters (funny note: the stuff about vengeful West Virginia hillbillies was before finding out that WV leads the nation in RichRod Googlestalking). But with National Signing Day and the fallout from the Demar Dorsey questions during the press conference, I had to revisit the topic. I’m covering some old generation gap ground here, but dammit this is my diary so stop now if you like.

A quick note: Rodriguez should have been more prepared to answer tough questions about Dorsey and handle those questions with more cool. Yet he provided an answer, saying that he had checked the background of every player. So why wasn’t that answer good enough for Sharp, Birkett, etc.? Well, I believe that if Bo, Lloyd, or even Mark Dantonio had given that same answer, there would have been no follow-up. Because the press fears and respects those guys. Rodriguez? Not so much.

Why don’t people respect Rodriguez? The losing at Michigan is obviously a big issue, and winning will solve many problems. But not all of them. Beginning with Bo (and perhaps earlier; I’m no Bump Elliott expert), Michigan has been coached by a taskmaster field general. Demanding, strict, somewhat dictatorial. Moeller may have fit the same mold, but the incident at the Excalibur damaged him terribly – no longer was he the feared leader, he was the pathetic drunk. He was replaced by Lloyd Carr. More intellectual than Bo, he was still the tight-lipped fearless commander, the great lion, the general to lead men into battle.

Rich Rodriguez is not these things. He is a leader, and he has proven he can be an effective one. But he’s not the strict sovereign. He is the fun-loving, loosey-goosey, affable coach [EDIT: should probably just say "He has an affable and good-natured public demeanor, compared to his predecessors more known for withering stares sprinkled with the occasional dry wit."]. Players appear to respond well to that kind of leader. But the media, and many others, do not. Without saying so, they want the coach to be the fear of God disciplinarian. They want to be intimidated. Because when they feel intimidated, they are reassured. They secretly want old-school Dad, and they don’t know what to do with new school Dad.

Mark Dantonio, bless his soul, is the old school Dad that Rich Rodriguez (and John L. Smith) is not. When Drew Sharp cites the double standard, he’s basically saying “Me, Mike Rosenberg, and everyone else want a Dad I fear, not a Dad I play games with. We want Woody and Bo or Tressel or Saban. We want a Dad who listens to classical music or talk radio, not rock or R&B. Old school Dad reassures me that all is right with the world. New school Dad scares me, and reminds me of terrorists, recession, and the decline of all that is good in America.”

Don’t get me wrong – there are reasonable reasons to dislike things Rodriguez says or does (losing games being offense #1). But the generational gap amplifies every negative reaction. It’s not “Rodriguez didn’t answer the question”, it’s “Rodriguez didn’t answer the question and didn’t try to stand up to me or stare me down and where are all the real men in America and what is happening with this country and everything is so complicated now I can’t handle it and dammit RichRod I hate you.”

To sum up: Rodriguez, by being new school, invokes a series of complicated overreactions among people who aren’t quite sure where they stand anymore. Dantonio, by being old school, provides a refreshing, nostalgic respite from everpresent change. The media, and many of the general public, consciously or unconsciously gravitate to that reassurance, which is why we see such different portrayals of the two programs. And it helps explain why Michigan benefitted so much when its coach was old school and MSU was new school.

Comments

AMazinBlue

February 5th, 2010 at 12:20 AM ^

But I still think RichRod struggles being in the fishbowl. When he was at WVU, no one cared outside of WV. He came to AA and all of sudden the media is in a feeding frenzy like a bunch of deprived phiranah. The media went 20 years without so much as a whisper as to anything going on inside the football program and here comes Rodriguez willing to tell the truth. The media surrounded him and keep taking their shots. Hopefully RR will learn quickly to give them carboard cutout sound bites those losers deserve and save his emotion and energy for his team. Drew Sharp is a pompous windbag and he is slowly heading down the road that Rob Parker paved with his overly loud and arrogant mouth. RR would be better with the media from 70s that respected the position and some morals. The media today are nothing more than sensationalists with a keyboard or microphone.

Pea-Tear Gryphon

February 5th, 2010 at 12:29 AM ^

The bitch about Lloyd was that he was tight-lipped and standoffish (sp) to the media. They had no access to the program and LC always had his players' backs, especially so in front of the media. The press hated LC press conferences because they didn't get anything good and were often taken to task for printing something that was unfavorable towards one of his players (Asshat Sharp can testify to that). Now with Rodriguez, they get a more transparent and open program. He speaks more freely than LC, and is paying the punishment. Now the press takes what he says, twists it around, and probes to find the inconsistencies (Dorsey is just the latest example. Team GPA was another). You can't win in the press. Either you're Lloyd and a prick, or you're RR and a foot-in-mouther. Anyway, winning cures all. Let's get back to that.

Tater

February 5th, 2010 at 12:39 AM ^

RR needs to go FTS on the media. As much fun as it is to have info, I think RR is going to have to be more selective with the info he allows out there. I, like many, really liked the idea of transparency, but RR's reward is that people who aren't fit to launder his jockstrap are treating him like shit. RR needs to restrict access to the press. He needs to revoke the credentials of those who have demonstrated that their covert or not-so-covert agenda is the sabotage the program. Most of all, the University has to have his back. I wouldn't allow any of the freep's three stooges in the press box, and would make them pay for their own tickets if they can find any. I would love to see Rosenpuke, Shyster, and Dull out on the street trying to get MSU tickets from a scalper. I wonder which one would be the best at negotiating a lower price?

aaamichfan

February 5th, 2010 at 1:05 AM ^

Once Dave Brandon fully assumes the AD position, he will definitely restrict press access to a certain extent. I also imagine he will have Rich more prepared for interviews. I sense an important change currently taking place in the Michigan fanbase. There is a growing number of people who are beginning to "See through the bullshit" and they realize that it is not beneficial to constantly tear down the program they love. To be honest, I think a lot of RR's problems will go away once they beat the shit out of Michigan State this year. This is when the fairweather fans will come back. Although I hate them, they pollute message boards and are not easily distinguishable from MSU trolls. Lastly, it is good that we are getting the Dorsey vetting process out of the way early. In previous years, the press would have waited until Aug. 20 to start asking questions, and it would have become a huge distraction. By the time he enrolls in classes, the media will be beating a dead horse by bringing it up again.

MichMike86

February 5th, 2010 at 9:54 AM ^

"I sense an important change currently taking place in the Michigan fanbase. There is a growing number of people who are beginning to "See through the bullshit" and they realize that it is not beneficial to constantly tear down the program they love." Really? What would lead you to make that statement? Just curious because besides the people who post on here things seem to be getting worse.

goalieguy022

February 5th, 2010 at 2:30 AM ^

first off i have always felt this way and maybe i am ignorant...But Tressel screams cheater to me...there is nobody this perfect anymore...and i can't wait til he bites Ohio State in the [email protected] Rod has gotten a bad rap in my opinion...He has the fire that i like to see in a coach... He will guide our boys to Big 10 championships and National Championships...if you aren't on board with our coach then get the BLANK out of here

Not a Blue Fan

February 5th, 2010 at 7:41 AM ^

I don't think ignorant is the right word here. Also, while I'm not opposed to our bitter rivals hating our coach, how does that have any impact whatsoever on people's perceptions of your coach? Even if Jim Tressel were feeding live puppies to a demon that he has somehow trapped in his basement and uses to gain terrifying powers that wouldn't change anything about RR. He needs to win, or people won't like him no matter how nice or patient he is.

bluebyyou

February 5th, 2010 at 11:10 AM ^

Because I am "Michigan", it is in my genes to hate tOSU. However, one must recognize that Tressel has run a very solid program which, with the exception of a few games, has been one of the best in the country. I have never seen an interview with him where he wasn't up front and a gentlemen. It is not a sign of weakness to respect one's enemies.

Section 1

February 5th, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^

Rich Rodriguez has indeed got a bad rap. Worse; an unbelievably bad and unfair attack. Tressel has NOTHING to do with that. That's really a big difference here, that people should understand. Rivalries are rivalries. Games that we want to win, but won't always win, which is why they are rivalries. And virtually all of us won't be able to change what happens on the field. The Free Press is another matter altogether. That's malignancy. They want to fuck up our program. They have an agenda. They also need us as consumers. There's no law that says that the Free Press has to be in business in another five years. That's where we should be looking.

EZMIKEP

February 5th, 2010 at 5:46 AM ^

And biding his time until he can say the things he needs to and WANTS to & nobody will be able to say anything back without losing credibility. The guy is a rock. He's been through hell here and just keeps on trucking. I am sure once the wins come-as I am very sure they will- and this transition is complete, and I believe the jump will be this year, he will be able to say more and be taken seriously. Nobody will be able to use the win/loss column against him & say he is a failure. I understand your diary entry perspective but I disagree that RR is looked at as a new school dad just because he is more open etc. I think if Lloyd. Bo weren't winners they would have been treated differently. Anyone who isn't successful just doesn't get respect period. And right now from the outside of the masses RR looks like he isn't right for us. Hell I was at the dentist the other day and my Dentist graduated from UM & she asked me what the hell is with this guy Rodriguez's bad attitude. I asked what the hell she was talking about. She immediately said she has "read" so many bad things about him. Go figure. And I do not believe that Dantonio is looked at like old school dad either. I think Dantonio coaches for MSU and they suck so he has been given a longer leash, especially since he has beaten us twice and yapped up a bunch of anti-UM rhetoric to get Sparty all hyped up. If anything, outside of the MSU fanbase and the anti-RR people I think Dantonio is looked at like a joke. A strange figure with an over-inflated ego who really isn't that successful or will ever be. Anyways that is just my take. I in no way am saying I am right, just stating my view. Good post bro.

StephenRKass

February 5th, 2010 at 7:19 AM ^

But as to the MSM, I already said in another post that RR doesn't need to be so transparent, nor does he need to respect stupid questions with an answer. To ignore some of these guys and not honor them with a response is about the best thing I can see RR doing.

ijohnb

February 5th, 2010 at 8:03 AM ^

post, and I think you are on to something. What was really of note to me in the presser was that he DID answer the question. In fact, he took the question and attempted to really answer it, to get to the core of what was being asked, instead of just passing on it. It was the ultimate loaded question. What is the proper answer? Did they want him to cheer the felony charges? In the same vein as "Are you happy your wife cheated on you?" - "Yes, fantastic, I am just thrilled about it!!" I do think he prepped for it, and answered it well. RR just is not slick, he does not have canned answers. He ponders, and actually answers the questions with what he feels and says what comes to his mind. Hard for some to wrap their heads around it I guess.

Ponypie

February 5th, 2010 at 9:26 AM ^

On the one hand, I think you're somewhat right about a generational change, but I think that's mostly in the attitudes of the media, many of the players and families, and the fans. The common thread, and perhaps operational principle, is a combination of expectations and scrutiny, along with the immediacy of internet journalism. On the other hand, I disagree with your characterization of Rich Rodriguez as "fun-loving and loosy-goosy." In fact, I think he has many similarities to Bo, Lloyd, and others. He seems, in fact, to run a tight ship, to be tough on his players, and to have high standards both on and off the field. Where he is different, especially in his press conferences, I think he is displaying a desire to be accepted in what is an undeniably hostile environment, full of skeptical, microscope-weilding sharks (OK, a bit of exaggeration, perhaps). No doubt he is painfully aware of the whole "Michigan man" meme and its over interpretation, and responds to it, even unconsciously. It has to be a bitch to come here and put up with the collective ass-hattery of uninformed or vindictive (or both) critics, let alone to endure the pressure to win. Otherwise, I don't think there is a clear-cut generation gap with the fans. I'm an old fart (first game in A2 was '73 OSU), and I'm fully expecting good things as Rodriguez progresses with his team. Admittedly a small sample, but I think reasonably representative.

EZMIKEP

February 5th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^

He does seem to run a tight ship. And from what I have heard since he first got to AA is that the guy is 110% all business. He wants to win and win bad, but I don't think its at the cost of taking bad players or anything. I really feel like RR knows he is under a microscope and that (after the Feagin incident even more so) he has a good feel for what he can expect from Dorsey. On another note, as a ridiculously over the top UM Football fan like most of the people on this blog, I swear I think I have let myself get too wrapped up in all this and am almost feeling like I am ready to fight from all the constant drama & bs. It's just not cool anymore. The tide has to turn soon. I can feel it.

Ziff72

February 5th, 2010 at 9:33 AM ^

Nice post but I beg to differ, RR is not loosey goosey new school. He is unquestionably old school. He is more Bo than Bo's guys Lloyd and Mo. Bo believed in simple schemes and believed in execution, hard work and discipline and conditioning. Which is exactly what RR is trying to install. If RR had come out in year 1 and went 10-2 and beat OSU, this would all go away. RR is criticized for yelling on the field and being too tough on his guys, except Bo did the same thing. The problem is is that Michigan has been above reproach for 35 years. The only thing people could say about Michigan was we couldn't win bowl games and we were arrogant. Bo built a wall around Michigan that the media could not penetrate. Now there's a crack in the wall and every bug or piece of shit or Sharp wants their pound of flesh while we're struggling to get going.

Undefeated dre…

February 5th, 2010 at 10:15 AM ^

Based on the posts, I should probably retract the loosey-goosey line. My main point is that Rodriguez's public face does not match the media's expectations for a head football coach, which is one reason there's an overreaction to all things RichRod. Meanwhile, Dantonio's public persona does fit the mold of the 'traditional' football coach, and the media responds better to it. I'm not saying Rodriguez should change, though he may want to play the public relations game a bit better. I'm saying that what we think is a deliberate hatchet job by the media may be based in part on the media's desire to have a football coach with a strong, stern, public persona. That the media, and many from the old school, *prefer* (consciously or not) the scary, intimidating adversary instead of the approachable, joke telling leader.

mikefromaa

February 5th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^

When Rodriguez was hired, I was excited that Michigan had brought in a "Win at all cost" type of coach. I assumed that he would bring in some 5* police blotter filling thugs. Thugs win championships. Well, I guess we've seen the all cost part. Had a corner and a quarter booted for dealing. Now he's bringing in a kid that I'd be afraid to run into after dark. We barely have the moral high ground over the common street gang in East Lansing. We've seen the "At all cost" part. And I can deal. We can deal. But now its time to win.

ChasingRabbits

February 5th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^

He didn't bring in the corner. That was Lloyd's guy. RR just dismissed him. He also did not bring in the pot smokers (KB, Sears), the (F*ck)Lion tamer, the former pot dealer (WP), the not qualifiers that were let in anyway (Germany). If you are going to make a point, make a factual one.

jsquigg

February 5th, 2010 at 12:57 PM ^

Your comments seem to indicate that you only hang around people similar to yourself. My only suggestion is to open your front door and get to know people who are different than you. I guarantee that you'll be cheering when these so called "thugs" do well, but you don't deserve to derive satisfaction from their success with your ignorant, stereotypical characterization. Move to Columbus please.

brianshall

February 5th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^

trying to circle the wagons. There is no hate RR faction. RR is not a Michigan man, has brought in a number of questionable recruits and has a win loss record that might not make any Indiana coach proud. You really expect die hard Michigan fans not to be upset by this? Seriously?

Section 1

February 5th, 2010 at 12:09 PM ^

son. Yes, I expect old folks whose whole life is informed by home delivery of the Free Press 3 days a week, will buy into the Rosenberg/Sharp story. Yes, I expect that mouth-breathing Wal-Mart Wolverine "fans" will say, "Why can't we win every game like Bo Schembechler did (forgetting that Bo didn't win every game, and neither did his successors)?" I think there are a lot of Michigan fans whose only connection is watching them on tv. Are we supposed to care about those people?

santosbfree

February 5th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^

You can't win an argument with mgofoxnews. If something goes wrong with the NCAA investigation, they'll blame Lloyd Carr for telling the kids to practice on Rich Rodriguez's front lawn before they admit that their guy broke rules. And to prove it, I am about to lose some silly number of arbitrary space points.

Mountaineers Fanatic

February 10th, 2010 at 5:25 PM ^

So, RR is not a Michigan Man. Was Carr a Michigan man? How about your beloved Bo? Didn't Bo come from OHIO? As far as questionable recruits, besides Feagin and now Dorsey, what questionable recruits has RR brought in? Was Feagin a questionable recruit when he arrived? You can't say yes since he didn't have a past criminal record and his HS coach didn't know about his drug problem. The only factual thing you stated is about his record, and while it's a small surprise to some, most didn't expect a whole lot more, especially in his first year

bluebyyou

February 5th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^

What is Drew Sharp's background? I have looked up his bio and cannot find anything other than he had surgery as a kid and never played sports. I probably should know this, but please don't tell me he went to Michigan.

OregonWolverine

February 5th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^

But I don't think it's necessarily generation gap, or at least not all generation gap. Below is something I posted on a different thread about Mike Rosenberg's reflexive dislike of RichRod. Edit: I should make clear that I'm 50, I like RichRod a lot, and I'm really rooting for him to succeed, even if the facts on the ground dictate an uphill battle at this point. And my observations about the various coaches should be seen as exaggerations of a particular frame of mind, not my literal opinions. ------------------------------------ As has been so well documented here, this weird dual standard that interprets events occurring in Dantonio's program in the best possible light, and vice versa for Rodriguez's, has long since entered the realm of self-parody. But why? What's going on behind that elfin, bespectacled visage? Here's one theory: To oversimplify, the anti-RR movement seems to have two factions. The first doesn't like RR because he's losing. The second just doesn't like RR, period. This faction seems to correlate strongly with the minority of alumni who take that "Harvard Of The Midwest Alumni" thing a little too seriously. From the perspective of the HOTMA crowd, here's this guy who grows up as "poor white trash" in (shudder) West Virginia, and rises a little too far, too fast, based on nothing more than brains, hustle, and heart-on-the-sleeve street charm. He's still 50% enthusiastic yahoo. Worse, he takes a whole gaggle of fat, profane, sloppy-looking assistants with him. Then, he gets in a public spat with sleazy former compatriots, and doesn't get the rule about Too Much Information to the press. It all made the HOTMA skin just crawl. Rodriguez, to further prove his unsuitability, ignored the traditional round of homage to the self-important coaches of the traditional recruiting feeder network, and instead went running around Florida in search of dreadlocked kids from dirt-poor, dead-end backwater towns. Kids that never could have gotten into the Harvard of anywhere, except they can run 4.25 in the fake 40. Kids whose origins and accents and very appearance highlight the pretensions and contradictions of college athletics, especially at a place like Michigan. The contrast with the Carr regime was stark. The Carr guys were all well-groomed and at least moderately handsome. They spoke few sentences, mostly grammatically correct and in flat Midwestern accent. The head guy knew 50 ways to tell impertinent reporters to f--k off without ever using the actual words. They never let enthusiasm get in the way of projecting the mandatory image of Seriousness. They recruited kids from the good-old-boys network of Midwest coaches - kids who only needed a wash, wax, and tuxedo job to look like future captains of industry, and weren't allowed to open their mouths much, lest they spoil the illusion. And they ran I-formation, pro-style offense and 4-3 defense, as carried down from the mount by Moses. If those guys had unseemly motivations or ambitions, they were loath to admit it to themselves, much less show it to the public. For the HOTMA crowd, the Carr regime was just fine, although perhaps in need of an injection of neurons from Pete Carroll's football brain. And here's the thing: if you liked Carr, you almost certainly like Dantonio too. Stern, serious, religious, appropriately guarded, a man of few carefully calculated words, "cares about his players", plays sound fundamental football. On the other hand, if you like Rodriguez's informality, enthusiasm, and football creativity, and you get chills reading the feel-good stories about those Pahokee kids, then you probably find Dantonio boring, uptight, sanctimonious, and a little hypocritical. As I do. My guess is: Rosenberg is a HOTMA. He might not know it, might not want to admit it even to himself, but he is. He can't help himself, and he's too much of a star for his editors to help him, either. The only good news is: he's a dying breed.

jsquigg

February 5th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^

There is so much speculation and hearsay in this that I don't know where to begin. I agree with some of it, but you are making assumptions about people that may not be true, and I know for a fact that some of it is straight up false. The main differences between Lloyd and RR are that Lloyd was blessed by Bo and for the most part carried on the winning tradition. Lloyd also was guarded when it came to the media. When RR came in he was immediately more receptive to the media. He has been more accessible when it comes to information about almost anything. He has a different style and hasn't had success here yet. Other than those differences, I think lots of people are nitpicking due to dislike and/or an inherent sense of loyalty to "Bo's guys." Lloyd had more problems with attrition at the end of his coaching days than just about anybody. I can think of multiple players alleged in criminal activity while he was coaching right now, and he never caught flak for it. The only argument in my mind that could possibly be made is that Lloyd understood the media from his time here and knew what to say and what not to say better than RR. Myself, I think that winning is the main concern. I think RR could be more guarded, but I think the dissenters will dissipate once success comes. As a matter of fact, it was pretty quiet last year until the 8th game of the season...

OregonWolverine

February 5th, 2010 at 2:09 PM ^

I am making assumptions about people. It's only a theory, that makes some sense to me based on what I see from a fairly distant perspective. The overall point is that I think some of the dislike of RR and his program that some people express has a subtle class and cultural bias feel to it. And as I said, I'm exaggerating the points of view to make that central point. But if I'm saying things about people that are "straight up false", that's wrong and I should get it corrected.

WorldBPelekoudas

February 5th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^

I think there’s a lot of truth to what you and the OP have to say. I’m not sure it’s completely generational. I’m old (47) and I support RichRod and I know some 80-year-olds who do too. And it’s not simply a matter of snobbery or classism. I think it’s more of a misguided sense of old school pride. When the Sharp broadcast/podcast/column type thing came out, I didn’t have to listen to or read any of it, but I just knew I was going to get in a fight with my dad. The old man is M class of ’54. He started taking me to games before I could walk. Personality-wise, growing up with him was like having Bo at my dinner table every night. He was no blinder-wearing fan of Coach Carr. He complained about them right along with me. “So much talent.” “Not ready to play.” Etc. When Coach Rod was hired, I expected him to be as excited as I was. We finally had a guy who had won with less. Imagine what he would do when he could recruit at a place like Michigan. But he was lukewarm from the beginning. Why? I think the whole HOTMA goes a bit too far but there is an element of snobbery. Like it or not, Rodriguez isn’t an impressive public speaker. Part of it is the accent, part of it is the way he mispronounces words. (Watching Wednesday’s presser, I have to admit I cringed a little when he pronounced the word prevalent pre-VAY-lent.) To my dad, and I’m sure to a lot of fans, they feel that the way Coach Rod presents himself doesn’t show the U in the best light. He didn’t condemn the hire but there was no sense of “Peanut Butter Jelly Time” for him as there was for me. When the lawsuit happened, I think he felt like his initial wariness had become justified enough to talk about. He said, “I don’t like him. I don’t think he’s a good guy.” Why? “The lawsuit is an embarrassment to the University.” When I said that Rodriguez hadn’t done anything wrong, hadn’t defaulted on a payment, or anything he said, “It doesn’t matter. They should just make it go away. The amount of money is insignificant to the University.” I pointed out that maybe he should reserve his criticism for the University itself and not for the coach. He kind of shrugged. He couldn’t argue the point but he still felt what he felt. I don’t think the results on the field have anything to do with anything. My dad prides himself on being highly moral people. As a kid I used to always hope OSU players would suffer injuries before and during the Michigan game. (OK, I still do.) But he’d just yell at me and talk about how “we want to beat them at their best.” Screw that, I just wanted to win. His morality is admirable in most ways but the flipside is self-righteousness and moral certitude which is a dangerous thing. It sucks that we now have to be on our guard around each other when we talk about Michigan football or else one of us is bound to start yelling. (I decided not to talk about NSD with him at all on the off chance that he’s read any shit.) But it will all be settled soon anyway. If we win it won’t change his mind but I think he’ll shut up. If we keep lose and Rich Rod gets the boot, we can fight about the next coach.

maizenbluenc

February 5th, 2010 at 5:53 PM ^

... a generation gap in preferred coaching style (old-style field general, to new style "chaos offense" good 'ole boy), rather than a generation gap in who dislikes and readily accepts Rich Rod. For the Rich Rod Hater Taxonomy refer to this post: http://mgoblog.com/diaries/know-your-anti-rr-factions-taxonomy Of course the aforementioned Harvard of the West elitist group is not mentioned. I do agree that this group exists however - and that Rosenberg believes they are the audience he is writing for.

Firstbase

February 5th, 2010 at 3:50 PM ^

I think that today's Internet/media age has changed how we perceive a great deal about college football. Back in the day (pre-web), there was a certain mystique about Michigan football, in part because the program wasn't as transparent. (At least not to me). Now everything is scrutinized under a microscope including the coaches, strategic philosophies, recruiting, player profiles, training, etc... This transparency opens the door to more criticism than has been apparent in the past and this information is readily available from any number of editorializing URLs. For me, this all diminishes the "Michigan mystique." To some extent, it seems to me that coaches (particularly the new ones like RR who have yet to prove themselves), are particularly susceptible to this incessant scrutiny. Additionally, RR is bringing a markedly different style of football to Michigan, an institution whose legacy was built on "3 yards and a cloud of dust." This sort of change fuels the fires of discontent when things aren't going well. In his first year, I questioned the wisdom of trying to pound square pegs into round holes by forcing players into a mold for which they weren't well suited. I thought this recalcitrance may have cost them a few wins. I think RR is a decent guy, a decent coach, and he's doing his best. I'd like to see him succeed and make the detractors eat a little crow, too. Here's to hoping things turn around big time this year with 8 wins or so.

Tamburlaine

February 6th, 2010 at 6:22 PM ^

Rodriguez came into Michigan from a different world. That is to say he came into Michigan from a pretty normal world. At least for successful college coaches. That normal world is one where a guy's impressive resume is regarded with respect. The normal world of a media which isn't out to bury you and tear apart every ounce of your humanity before the ink is dry on your contract. I honestly have never seen anything like this. And I'll say I don't know of one thing he could have done differently, other than to have said, "No thanks. I like it fine right here in West By God Virginny." I mean, should he have walked in and changed his personality? Or did he walk in and (rightfully, in a normal world) think that the position of head coach at Michigan carries some amount of respect in, say...MICHIGAN? If it's results based, I'm OK with those who sit back and say, "Wow. 8-16. 1-7 in Year Two in the Big Ten. Ouch." But the man has been sabotaged by local media, and to some extent, by his employers and those working with him. There's a rumor floating around behind a paywall that a firing might be in the works. Has to do with the person who didn't inform Rodriguez about the practice logs. Hpefully, UM takes the first step in showing support for Rodriguez and gets out the axe.

Mole Man 78

February 7th, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^

We keep hearing of Rich Rod's impressive resume. Where is that coming from. He had a couple of sensational years at WVU, with Pat White and Steve Slaton. Neither of which he has on the current roster. Also remember the Big East drastically changed during his tenure at WVU. Miami, BC. Va Tech left for the ACC. Rich Rod went from fourth to first by default. FACTS: 2001 3-8; 2002 9-4; 2003 8-5; 2004 8-4 AFTER THE DEPARTURE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED TEAMS: 2005 11-1; 2006 11-2; 2007 10-2 You have to ask did Rich Rod become a great coach or did the league become so watered down that he looked like a great coach. Remember his last game at WVU a 13-9 loss to a sorry Pittsburgh team without Pat White.

Mountaineers Fanatic

February 10th, 2010 at 5:34 PM ^

RR also beat a top 5 ranked VT team in his second year and tied for the BE title with Miami in his second season....this before Miami, VT and BC left the conference. He's also beaten UGA in the Sugar Bowl. As far as Resume goes, look at what his offense has done at his other schools. True he wasn't the HC, but we are talking about his resume which includes HIS offenses at schools prior to becoming the HC. His QB at Tulane and Clemson set many NCAA records, some of which still stand today. His offense at Tulane and Clemson were also ranked near the top in the country. You can even look back at his time at Glenville State inwhich his team/offense was near the top of every offensive category in the country. He had a WR (Chris George) who broke a couple of Jerry Rice's receiving records (another small time college player). As far as his last game against Pitt, I guess you want to blame RR for the 5 turnovers, loss of starting QB for a whole half, two missed FGs, and a certain penalty that gave Pitt a FG? yeah, let's blame the RR for his players having one of their worst outtings of the year!!!