Freep Mini-Fisk
1. "Last weekend, the Free Press published a report about the University of Michigan football program that was a month in the making, based on interviews by reporters Michael Rosenberg and Mark Snyder with former and current players and a detailed review of rules governing the sport."
Yes, this groundbreaking/earth-shattering expose' took a grand total of ONE month to form. This is basically an admission that no work was done to examine the opposite side of things (WVU's clean compliance records, the widespread opinions of current and former - HA see what I did there? - college coaches and players such as Herbstreit, Tressel, et. al., the 99% of current M players and their parents who DON'T think there is any problem with what is going on).
2. "Rodriguez said he would no longer ask players to report for duty on Sundays."
As stated by RR this week, last year players came in on Sundays and had Mondays off, and this year they will have Sundays off and come in on Mondays. Anger makes no mention of this - his implication seems to be that RR feels like he got caught so he is ceasing activities on Sundays to try and atone for his wrongdoings or soothe the worries of his dectractors.
3. "The backlash has included threats against Rosenberg and Snyder. One gem from the fanatical fringe: 'I'm a person of strong moral conviction ... however, I wish nothing but pain and death to you.'"
Also: "Rosenberg is primarily a sports columnist but, like many columnists, is also an excellent reporter. In columns, he's been critical of Rodriguez, as some cyberspace conspiracy theorists point out."
This is a textbook response from someone who cannot refute the claims being made by the other side - you see it all the time in politics: Ignore the 99% of people who have legitimate, logical points and questions and instead focus on the far extreme fringe who say something really dumb and easily refutable. And while you're at it, slap a good ol' ad hominem on it for the cherry on top.
4. "At the annual media day event where reporters mingle with players made available by the coaches, two freshmen on scholarship freely answered questions about the team's off-season programs, including workouts. You can question, as some have, including the father of one freshman, whether we should have quoted them."
That is totally not the issue at all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting freshmen, and no one has argued this. The issue that we fans have is that their quotes were taken and used in such a way that upset Hawthorne and Stokes and motivated them to go to their coach and ask him what they did wrong. When the question about how hard they were working was asked, whichever writer asked it conveniently failed to mention that he was going to use their words in a story alleging that the UM football coaches broke NCAA rules and that the program could suffer possible sanctions as a result.
After reading this half-ass counter-punch, it is painfully obvious as to why the original article got out in the first place - Snyder and Rosenberg's editor is just as clueless as they are.
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a grand total of ONE month to form. This is basically an admission that no work was done to examine the opposite side of thingsOne month is plenty of time to interview other sources. That's plenty of time to do work. That proves nothing.
Anger makes no mention of this - his implication seems to be that RR feels like he got caught so he is ceasing activities on Sundays to try and atone for his wrongdoings or soothe the worries of his dectractors.While this inference may be true, his general statement is not incorrect. It is an unadulterated e-fact.
This is a textbook response from someone who cannot refute the claims being made by the other sideThis is a textbook response from someone who cannot refute the claims being made by the other side.
When the question about how hard they were working was asked, whichever writer asked it conveniently failed to mention that he was going to use their words in a story alleging that the UM football coaches broke NCAA rules and that the program could suffer possible sanctions as a result.More specifically, the context was incorrect because the authors did not question what activities were, and if those activities counted toward the total. I'm in no means defending the freep, and most of your points were right. I just thought I'd fisk your fisking for not other reason than being able to use that line I used on point 3.
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While this inference may be true, his general statement is not incorrect. It is an unadulterated e-fact.Of course, much of this whole to-do was generated by discrepancies between "unadulterated" facts (quotes, what they said) and actual truths. The former are often convincing when deployed, but can be shaped and fit into infinite narratives serving infinite purposes. As this whole thing has illustrated, context is key, and hiding behind some BS proclaimed journalistic objectivity, saying that you're just "presenting the facts" is disingenuous and deeply unethical. I am finding no small amount of personal glee in watching this crap blow up in the Freep's face. This editorial is obviously on its heels, and the current of popular opinion is decisively against their hatchet-work. Scoreboard!
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I'm a person of strong moral conviction ... however, I wish nothing but pain and death to you.Does anyone know which site this came from? Seems like something that may have been said in sarcasm on the e-blogs and then taken out of context in the editorial. I couldn't find it on Google.
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Whether or not the death threats were made does not support or disparage the "journalist" allegations. Nor is it a signification portion of the backlash. If the editor had real issues with the "backlash", how about commenting on a ABC announcer calling the allegations a "witch hunt" during the game Saturday. Seems like the editor was hoping this kind of "backlash" goes unnoticed."The backlash has included threats against Rosenberg and Snyder. One gem from the fanatical fringe: 'I'm a person of strong moral conviction ... however, I wish nothing but pain and death to you.'"
I think it is fairly obvious the second point is directed towards this statement by Brian:Also: "Rosenberg is primarily a sports columnist but, like many columnists, is also an excellent reporter. In columns, he's been critical of Rodriguez, as some cyberspace conspiracy theorists point out."
The Free Press has been trying the marginalize blogs and Brian in particular. As Brian pointed out they previously had implied Brain was some anonymous writer who nobody could identify and could not be contacted, instead of a guest of several radio talk shows this past week including being interviewed by Mitch Albom. There is little doubt they see the internet and Brain as a competitor.allowing a columnist with such a strong viewpoint to write an anonymously-sourced investigative news article on the same topic of his obsession is improper.
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