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Hypothetical: Running the NCAA like the English Premier League, 2009

By DoubleMs — December 15th, 2009 at 7:50 PM — 15 comments
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I have always been curious how this would work: Dropping the bottom teams in FBS in favor of the top teams in FCS, very similar to the way that European soccer leagues are run.  In this, I am going to look at results from 2009 in a couple of different ways.

System One: Win-Based

Bottom 5 of the FBS:Eastern Michigan (0-12)
Western Kentucky (0-12)
Miami (Not That Miami) (1-11)
Washington State (1-11)
New Mexico (1-11)

Top 5 (6) of the FCS:
Montana (14-0) - In Championship Game
Villanova (13-1) - In Championship Game
Richmond (11-2) - Lost to App State
Southern Illinois (11-2) - Lost to W&M
William&Mary (11-3) - Lost to Villanova
Appalachian State (11-3) Lost to Montana

Win by Montana would drop out S. Illinois, win by Villanova would drop out Richmond.


System Two: Sagarin Rankings-Based

Bottom 5 Sagarin FBS (it is unlikely these will change):
Western Kentucky: 192
Eastern Michigan: 182
North Texas: 162
New Mexico State: 152
Miami (Not That Miami): 150

Top 5 Sagarin FCS (these might change next weekend):
Villanova: 35
William&Mary: 49
Montana: 61
Richmond: 63
Appalachian State: 75



So let's say we combined these two lists and dropped the bottom four out of the FBS, just for the sake of making promotion simple.  EMU, W. Kentucky, Miami (Not That Miami), and NM State all appear on both lists, and would get bumped down to FCS.  Montana, Villanova, William & Mary, and Appalachian State, the top four teams in the FCS playoff, would be brought up to replace.  The teams would take opened spots in the most local conferences, replacing the bumped teams on the conference schedules.

William & Mary and Villanova would trade conferences with EMU and Miami, because of location.  W. Kentucky would switch with App. State, again due to location, and Montana would switch with NM State.  

If the FCS teams managed to win the next year, they would make the cut and get to stay. If they didn't, they would just get bumped back down into their old conferences. The old FBS teams would be required to make the final four in the FCS in order to move up again.

I feel like this would liven up competition in the FCS as well as lighting a fire under the bottom-rung teams in the FBS.  Probably will never happen, but wouldn't it be an amazing change?


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So, How ‘Bout Them New Guys: Michigan Wolverines, 1989

By DoubleMs — August 4th, 2009 at 8:48 PM — 6 comments
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Author's Note:

Home Blog contains my scoring system and the schedule of events, as well as the top classes I have done so far.

Purdue's rosters got here Monday. Good thing. Means that I can start working on them and actually get some information. I have back to WWII, minus a few years, so that's good.

I'm going to stop summarizing with my first paragraph at the bottom. You can all figure out what the numbers mean.

This is my second of two Michigan classes in a row, and then I'm going to try to find enough information to do the next one down on my list... we will see how that goes, really. Playing it by ear on schools not named Michigan (or Purdue now).

The HTML here is still screwing with me.  Now a large portion of the bottom of my post is centered, but oh well.  I can't figure out how to fix it.

Set the Stage:

Head Coach: Bo Schembechler (1989), Gary Moeller (1990-1993)
1988 Performance: 9-2-1, AP 4th, Big Ten 1st
New Blood: 19

Recruiting Map:


Mini Recruiting Board Lives Here:

Position

Count

QB1
RB/FB2
WR2
TE2
OL3
DT4
DE0
LB3
DB1
K1

The 1989 was recruited off of what had been a standard 9-win Big Ten Title season. The class was strongly balanced, with a good mix of every position. I do not know if Bo thought this was his last season by the time this season started, but it is clear that he was intending on leaving a strong foundation for his successor.

How They Did:

Overall Record: 46-11-3
Varsity Letters: 46
Graduated on Team: 16
Started a Game: 10
Full Eligibility: 12
5th Year Seniors: 10

Notable Honors:

  • Derrick Alexander, WR, All-American 1992, All-Conference 1992 1993
  • Tony McGee, TE, All-Conference 1992
  • Buster Stanley, DT, All-Conference 1993
Draftees:
  • Derrick Alexander, 1994, 1st Round, 29 Overall
  • Tony McGee, 1993, 2nd Round, 37 Overall

Recruiting Score:

Category

Points

Man-Game Ratio

0.1589

Record

0.0792

Letters

0.0460

Heisman

0.0000

All-Americans

0.0250

All-Big Ten

0.0400

Full Eligibility

0.0120

Drafted

0.0300

Total

0.3911




So, besides being the year I was born, 1989 is famously known as the year after Desmond Howard was recruited, or Bo's last year coaching. That's about it. The class produced two draftees, but they went in rounds 1 and 2, so that is redeeming. One All-American honor was awarded, to Derrick Alexander, who also was All-Big Ten twice and a first-round draft pick. Alexander was solely responsible for .0700 points of this class, giving the class a strong boost. This class only started 15.9% of possible starts, implying that the surrounding classes will be much stronger.

This class also had a very weird senior season Senior season (9-0-3), and a weak 5th Year (8-4-0). When I get more data points, I'm going to try to link 4th year record to recruiting score, so I'd consider their senior year to be 10.5 wins.










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So, How ‘Bout Them New Guys: Michigan Wolverines, 2002

By DoubleMs — July 31st, 2009 at 9:29 PM — 21 comments
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Author's Note:

Home Blog

So at this point I am having many issues with finding enough information for schools not named Michigan before 2004. I've had to skip one Penn State class and am sure I'll have to do it with other schools. Fortunately, Purdue and Minnesota are mailing me their information. I've got requests out at many schools trying to get information. So at this point, I've got two Michigan classes in a row, and then back to the grind of finding information. Enjoy.

Edit: It's randomly bolded, and I can't get the editor here to unbold parts of it. I give up again. When I write my posts in dreamweaver they are supposed to come out perfectly!


Set the Stage:

Head Coach: Lloyd Carr
2001 Performance: 8-4-0, 2nd Big Ten, 20th Overall
New Blood: 23


Recruiting Map:

Mini Recruiting Board Lives Here:

Position

Count

QB1
RB/FB2
WR3
TE2
OL3
DT2
DE1
LB5
DB4
K

The 2002 class was recruited off of a mediocre 8-4 campaign in 2001, which succumbed to Tennessee in the Citrus Bowl. Lloyd aimed for a very balanced class here, though a light on the line on both sides of the ball. The emphasis on skill positions was expected to pay off in spades. This class contained 13 in-state players, showing Lloyd's preference for Michigan Men to come from Michigan.

How They Did:

Overall Record: 47-16
Varsity Letters: 61
Graduated on Team: 18
Started a Game: 17
Full Eligibility: 15
5th Year Seniors: 12


Notable Honors:

  • Jason Avant, WR, All-Conference 2005
  • Dave Harris, ILB, All-Conference 2006
  • Gabriel Watson, DT, All-Conference 2005 2006
Draftees:
  • Jason Avant, 2006, 4th Round, 109 Overall
  • Steve Breaston, 2007, 5th Round, 142 Overall
  • Dave Harris, 2007, 2nd Round, 47 Overall
  • Gabriel Watson, 2006, 4th Round, 107 Overall

Recruiting Score:

Category

Points

Man-Game Ratio

0.1566

Record

0.0746

Letters

0.0610

Heisman

0.0000

All-Americans

0.0000

All-Big Ten

0.0400

Full Eligibility

0.0150

Drafted

0.0400

Total

0.3872



Of the 23 students drafted, 18 graduated, 17 started a game, 15 used their full eligibility, and 12 played as redshirt seniors.

I think this class justifies the use of the man-game starting ratio. This team had an extremely weak starting percentage, barely over 15%, but a high winning percentage, ~75%. The senior season, at 7-5, reflects the starting percentage well. All other classes for Michigan within this time period should have a higher starting percentage, and better senior seasons. This was nowhere near Carr's best performing class.

The lean of this class was towards its skill players in recruiting, and a couple of strong players came from it. Steve Breaston and Jason Avant were both strong receivers and anchors for their senior campaigns. However, the linemen, even though they had less presence, had 43% of the starts for the class. Gabe Watson, DT, won two All-Conference First Team honors, and was drafted just before Jason Avant in the '06 draft. Of the skill players, only two wide receivers an an inside linebacker (Dave Harris) stood out, while Gabe Watson, Reuben Riley, Mark Bihl, and Rondell Biggs all became strong presences on the line during their respective senior campaigns.



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So, How ‘Bout Them New Guys: Michigan Wolverines, 1981

By DoubleMs — July 28th, 2009 at 12:36 AM — 9 comments
Filed under:
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  • copstaches
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  • Recruiting
OK, my browser froze 8 times trying to indent one of the lines in this, so I give up.  It doesn't look as good as I would like, but oh well.
Welcome to my new way of doing things.

I have begun a new blog, covering the recruiting history of all of the schools in the Big Ten.  The rules for how I am doing things can be found there, as well as the schedule of events.  Every Michigan post will be cross-posted here, for your viewing pleasure.  If there is an especially impressive class at another school, I will also post it here, with plenty of added references and M comparisons and what-not.

Set the Stage:

Coach: Bo Schembechler
1980 Performance: 10-2, Rose Bowl Victory, Final Ranking: 4th National, 1st Big Ten
1981 New Blood Count: 24

Recruiting Map

Mini Recruiting Board Lives Here:

Position

Count

QB
RB/FB2
WR1
TE2
OL7
DT3
DE
LB7
DB2
K

The 1981 class was recruited coming off of the wings of a great 1980 season, which culminated in a Rose Bowl win. The class included 12 offensive and 12 defensive players, a very balanced 24-man class. The lack of a quarterback is explained by the presence of Steve Smith, who was the starting QB for most of the games for the first 3 seasons of this class. There was obvious weakness in both the linebacker and offensive line cores, which Bo hoped to fill with this class.

How They Did:

Overall Record: 42-17-1
Varsity Letters: 56
Graduated on Team: 18
Started a Game: 15
Full Eligibility: 11
5th Year Seniors: 8

Notable Honors:

  • Kevin Brooks, All Conference 1983 1984
  • Brad Cochran, All-American 1985, All-Conference 1985
  • Mike Hammerstein, All-American 1985, All-Conference 1985
  • Eric Kattus, All-Conference 1985
  • Mike Mallory, All-Conference 1984 1985
  • Clay Miller, All-Conference 1985
  • Alan Sincich, All-Conference 1983
Draftees:
  • Kevin Brooks, 1985, 1st Round, 17th Overall
  • Brad Cochran, 1986, 3rd Round, 80th Overall
  • Mike Hammerstein, 1986, 3rd Round, 65th Overall
  • Eric Kattus, 1986, 4th Round, 91st Overall
  • Clay Miller, 1986, 12th Round, 306th Overall

Recruiting Score:

Category

Points

Man-Game Ratio

0.2580

Record

0.0708

Letters

0.0560

Heisman

0.0000

All-Americans

0.0500

All-Big Ten

0.0900

Full Eligibility

0.0110

Drafted

0.0600

Total

0.5958

Of the 24 players recruited, 18 made it to graduation as members of the team. 15 made starts, and 11 played for their full four years.

The worst year for this class was in its senior year, 1984, when 12 players from the class made 114 starts and the team went 6-6. 1985 was an excellent year, in which 5 of the 8 remaining redshirt senior players made All-Conference and two made All-American honors (both of whom could have gone on to be cops). The 1985 team made it to the Fiesta Bowl, which they won, bringing their final record to 10-1-1. The caliber of the players in this class was sub-par compared to years surrounding it, shown by the general mediocrity of the team’s record.

Unfortunately for Bo, only 3 of the 7 OL recruits made any starts, one of which made one, one of which was a starting senior, and one of which converted to a DT and became an All-American. 5 of the 7 LB recruits made impacts on the team.

The shining point of this class was the defense. Of the 322 starts the class made, 201 were on defense. The two All-Americans were Brad Cochran, DB, who made 36 straight starts in his last 3 years, and Mike Hammerstein (Magnum, P.I.?), DT, who was MVP of the 1985 defense, which allowed a whopping 8.1 ppg. The three defensive players who were drafted went in the 1st, 3rd, and 3rd rounds.

Overall, the 1981 class built a strong defensive core, which allowed Bo to focus on the offense in the next year's class. 


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Anatomy of a Recruiter: Chalmers "Bump" Elliot

By DoubleMs — July 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 AM — 22 comments
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After my preliminary Diary, "Anatomy of a Recruiting Class: Bennie Oosterbaan's Last Class", I decided that I was going to take a different route in writing these.  I am bunching teams together by coach, in order to give an idea of how each coach operated.  I smoothed out my method of class analysis, as well.  I am only considering freshmen, not walk-ons that start in their Sophomore or later seasons.  As such, I actually wind up skipping a couple of early All-Americans.

The standard calculation I use for the capability of a recruiting class is the ratio of man-games started over total possible games played.  Prior to 1965, there were 11 man-games played per game played, and after 1965 there were 22 man-games played per game played. Higher the ratio, better the class.  In totaling how good a class was, I am using the formula:

            M-G Ratio + .025 * All-Americans + .01 * Drafted Players  + .1 * Heisman Players + .0001 * 3-year Players

From what I've come up with, a ratio of over .5 is considered to be a great class.

Chalmers "Bump" Elliot coached from 1959 to 1968, so his recruiting classes spanned the 1960-1969 Freshman classes.  In his time as head coach, he only made one bowl game, in 1964.

 

1960

             1960:  60 Freshmen

            1961:  24 Sophomores, 9 starts in 9 games.

            1962:  23 Juniors, 37 starts in 9 games.

            1963:  16 Seniors, 16 starts in 9 games.

            1964:  4 Seniors, 10 starts in 10 games.

           

            10 players made 72 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2136

            15 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility.           

            0 All-Americans

            1 Drafted:

                        Tom Keating, DT, Buffalo Bills, 1964

            Class Score:  .2251

 

1961

            1961:  61 Freshmen

            1962:  25 Sophomores, 21 starts in 9 games.

            1963:  21 Juniors, 48 starts in 9 games.

            1964:  16 Seniors, 53 starts in 10 games.

            1965:  0 Seniors

 

            12 players made 122 starts, for a man-game ratio of .3961

            14 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            1 All-American: 

                        Robert Timberlake, QB, 1964

            3 Drafted:

                        Robert Timberlake, K, New York Giants, 1965

                        Arnold Simkus, DE, Cleveland Browns, 1965

John Henderson, WR, Philadelphia Eagles, 1965

            Class Score:  .4525

 

1962 

Note: 1965 was the first year that offense and defense were separated, doubling  the number of man-games played.  There also were 10 regular season games from 1965 onward. 

 

            1962:  50 Freshmen

            1963:  34 Sophomores, 25 starts in 9 games.

            1964:  29 Juniors, 29 starts in 10 games.

            1965:  27 Seniors, 46 offensive and 50 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1966:  5 Seniors, 14 offensive and 23 defensive starts in 10 games.

           

            16 players made 187 starts, for a man-game ratio of .3535

            25 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            3 All-Americans: 

                        William Yearby, T, 1964&1965

                        Jack Clancy, E, 1966

            4 Drafted:

                        Jack Clancy, WR, Miami Dolphins, 1966

                        Thomas Mack, G, Los Angeles Rams, 1966

                        Steve Smith, OT, San Francisco 49ers, 1966

                        William Yearby, DE, New York Jets, 1966

            Class Score:  .4710

 

1963

            1963:  48 Freshmen

            1964:  28 Sophomores, 18 starts in 10 games.

            1965:  27 Juniors, 47 offensive and 45 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1966:  25 Seniors, 54 offensive and 33 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1967: 2 Seniors

           

            17 players made 197 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2814

            24 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            1 All-American:

                        Richard Volk, DHB, 1966

            6 Drafted:

                        Mike Bass, DB, Green Bay Packers, 1967

                        Jim Detwiler, , Baltimore Colts, 1967

                        Frank Nunley, LB, San Francisco 49ers, 1967

John Rowser, DB, Green Bay Packers, 1967

                        Rick Volk, DB, Baltimore Colts, 1967

Carl Ward, DB, Cleveland Browns, 1967

            Class Score:  .3688

                                               

1964

            1964:  53 Freshmen

            1965:  28 Sophomores, 18 offensive and 15 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1966:  24 Juniors, 26 offensive and 28 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1967:  21 Seniors, 39 offensive and 52 defensive starts in 10 games.

           

            11 players made 189 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2625

            20 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            0 All-Americans

            3 Drafted:

                        David Porter, , Cleveland Browns, 1968

                        Ray Philips, , New Orleans Saints, 1968

                        Rocky Rosema, LB, St. Louis Cardinals, 1968

            Class Score:  .2945

 

1965

            1965:  55 Freshmen

            1966:  31 Sophomores, 15 offensive and 16 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1967:  24 Juniors, 35 offensive and 23 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1968: 22 Seniors, 41 offensive and 33 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1969: 1 Senior, 9 offensive starts in 11 games.

 

            12 players made 172 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2522

            21 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            1 All-American:

                        Ronald Johnson, HB, 1968

            3 Drafted:

                        Ronald Johnson, RB, Cleveland Browns, 1968

                        Tom Stincic, LB, Dallas Cowboys, 1968

                        George Hoey, DB, Detroit Lions, 1968

            Class Score:  .3093

 

1966

            1966:  50 Freshmen

            1967:  30 Sophomores, 23 offensive and 25 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1968:  33 Juniors, 40 offensive and 34 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1969:  26 Seniors, 43 offensive and 44 defensive starts in 11 games.

            1970:  3 Seniors, 2 offensive and 6 defensive starts in 10 games.

           

            14 players made 217 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2924

            22 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            2 All-Americans:

                        Thomas Curtis, S, 1969

                        James Mandich, E, 1969

            6 Drafted:

                        Brian Healy, , Minnesota Vikings, 1970

                        Thomas Curtis, DB, Baltimore Colts, 1970

                        Garvie Craw, , Boston Patriots, 1970

                        Barry Pierson, , St. Louis Cardinals, 1970

                        Cecil Pryor, , Green Bay Packers, 1970

                        James Mandich, TE, Miami Dolphins, 1970

            Class Score:  .4046

        

1967

            1967:  36 Freshmen

            1968:  23 Sophomores, 13 offensive and 20 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1969:  17 Juniors, 39 offensive and 32 defensive starts in 11 games.

            1970: 16 Seniors, 32 offensive and 34 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1971: 1 Senior

 

            11 players made 170 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2408

            16 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            2 All-Americans:

                        Dan Dierdorf, T, 1970

                        Marty Huff, LB, 1970

            6 Drafted:

                        Jack Harpring, , New York Jets, 1971

                        Jim Betts, , New York Jets, 1971

                        Don Moorhead, , New Orleans Saints, 1971

                        Marty Huff, LB, San Francisco 49ers, 1971

                        Pete Newell, , Detroit Lions, 1971

                        Dan Dierdorf, T, St. Louis Cardinals, 1971

             Class Score:  .3524

 

1968

            1968: 52 Freshmen

            1969: 28 Sophomores, 24 offensive and 34 defensive starts in 11 games.

            1970: 26 Juniors, 58 offensive and 56 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1971: 21 Seniors, 81 offensive and 86 defensive starts in 12 games.

            1972:  3 Seniors, 22 offensive starts in 11 games.

 

            17 players made 361 starts, for a man-game ratio of .4826

            21 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            5 All-Americans:

                        Thomas Darden, DB, 1971

                        Reggie McKenzie, OG, 1971

                        William Taylor, HB, 1971

                        Mike Taylor, LB, 1971

                        Paul Seymour, OT, 1972

            12 Drafted:

                        Paul Seymour, TE, Buffalo Bills, 1973

                        Fred Grambau, , Kansas City Chiefs, 1973

Thomas Darden, DB, Cleveland Browns, 1972

                        Mike Taylor, LB, New York Jets, 1972

                        Reggie McKenzie, G, Buffalo Bills, 1972

                        Glen Doughty WR, Baltimore Colts, 1972

                        Tom Beckman, DE, St. Louis Cardinals, 1972

                        Mike Keller, LB, Dallas Cowboys, 1972

                        William Taylor, , Atlanta Falcons, 1972

                        Mike Oldham, , Washington Redskins, 1972

                        Guy Murdock, C, Houston Oilers, 1972

                        John Seyferth, , New York Giants, 1972

            Class Score:  .7297

                 

1969

            1969:  36 Freshmen

            1970:  23 Sophomores, 8 offensive and 4 defensive starts in 10 games.

            1971:  19 Juniors, 36 offensive and 35 defensive starts in 12 games.

            1972: 16 Seniors, 44 offensive and 47 defensive starts in 11 games.

            1973:  3 Seniors, 10 offensive starts in 11 games.

 

            15 players made 184 starts, for a man-game ratio of .2323

            15 players played for all 3 years of their eligibility

            1 All-American:

                        Randy Logan, DB, 1972

            6 Drafted:

                        James Coode, , Atlanta Falcons, 1974

                        Larry Cipa, QB, New Orleans Saints, 1974

                        Randy Logan, DB, Philadelphia Eagles, 1973

                        Bo Rather, WR, Miami Dolphins, 1973

                        Clinton Spearman, , Los Angeles Rams, 1973

                        Bill Hart, , Chicago Bears, 1973

            Class Score:  .3188

 

 

In order, the scoring of Bump Elliot’s classes is as follows:

            1968:  .7297

            1962:  .4710

            1961:  .4525

            1966:  .4046

            1963:  .3688

            1967:  .3524

            1969:  .3188

            1965:  .3093

            1964:  .2945

            1960:  .2251

 

Bump had 193 of 501 Freshman players use their full eligibility, 16 All-Americans and, 49 Drafted Players.  His best recruiting class saw 5 (!!) All-Americans (1968), though they were awarded under Bo.

Tune in next time for an analysis of Bo’s classes, and their placement in the rankings.

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Anatomy of a Recruiting Class: Bennie Oosterbaan's Last Class

By DoubleMs — July 17th, 2009 at 1:52 AM — 7 comments
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I'm a Michigan student interning for the summer at a steel mill in Chicago.  I found out the other day that the HR Manager for the plant had an offer to play for Michigan in Bo's first recruiting class, but declined it because the scholarship did not mean that much - a full ride then was nothing compared to today.  Learning this got me interested in historical recruiting, and how classes used to pan out, since we know how they tend to work now.  I decided to take a look at this out of sheer boredom earlier today, and found it to be an interesting topic - one which I will look deeper into.

Here's a preliminary analysis, using a fitting class to start with - Oosterbaan's last, which was in a situation comparable to Lloyd's last class.  In similar fashion to Lloyd Carr, Oosterbaan won a National Championship (1948) and a Rose Bowl (1950) early in his coaching career, and his success dwindled slowly until he resigned in 1958.  It's obvious that Oosterbaan was working off of the recruits from Crisler's last classes when he won both his Championship and his Rose Bowl, which happened in his first 3 seasons as head coach.  After 1950, he did not win even a conference title.

Here's a breakdown of Oosterbaan's last class: (Taken from Bentley Historical Library)

1959: 55 Freshmen, 0 with numbers assigned.  4-5 Record

1960: 32 Sophomores, 20 with numbers assigned.  5-4 Record2 Starters: Glinka (QB, 3); Raimey (RHB, 3) - 6 Man-Games Started of 99 Man-Games - 6.09%


1961: 20 Juniors, 18 with numbers assigned.  6-3 Record
5 Starters: Houtman (LT, 6); Minko (LG, 6); O'Donnel (RG, 1); Glinka (QB, 2); Raimey (RHB, 9) - 24 Man-Games Started of 99 Man-Games - 24.24%

1962: 10 Graduating Seniors, 7 Juniors.  2-7 Record
10 Starters: Houtman (LT, 1); Minko (LG, 9); Szymanski (C, 1); O'Donnell (RT, 9); Kocan (RE, 3);  Ward (RE, 1); Chandler (QB, 2); Glinka (QB, 1); Strobel (LHB, 3); Raimey (RHB, 4) - 34 Man-Games Started of 99 Man-Games - 34.34%

1963: 4 Graduating Seniors.  3-4-2 Record
2 Starters: Houtman (RT, 1); O'Donnell (LG, 9) - 10 Man-Games Started of 99 Man-Games - 10.10%

Out of 11 Positions, 9 Games, 3 Years (297 Man-Games Played), The Class of 1959 started 74 Man-Games, or 24.9% of the possible Man-Games.  This is low, if you take it that there were only 3 classes that could possibly play in those 3 years (Each class should play 33% of the Man-Games).  If you consider the last year as an additional class, 24.9% is spot-on.  

This implies that only 4 players out of a class of 55 completed 4 years of playing time, using the entirety of their eligibility, since it appears no freshmen played in 1959 (no numbers assigned). Also, this implies that Bump started off as a terrible recruiter, as shown by the absolute collapse when the last class he did not have anything to do with graduated.  None of these guys were All-American Caliber.

For posterity's sake, here are the numbers from Lloyd's last class (Freshmen in 08) so far: (Taken from MGoBlue.com)

2008: 25 Freshmen, 10 of which saw playing time.  3-9 Record
2009: Lost 3 to Transfer, 9 Sophomores, 17 Redshirt Freshmen

RichRod must have had 4 kids come out of the woodwork somewhere.

This isn't as far as I intend to go with this.  I would like to see just how much information I can pull out to show attrition relative to how good a season is, and how well each of our past coaches recruited, beginning with Bump and ending with Carr.  As I go on, I will have clumped diary entries for each coach, showing the progress of each of their classes.  I chose to begin with Oosterbaan's last because this is the 50th anniversary of that class, and prior to Bo's era, football did not mean as much to your average kid planning on heading to college, as there was no real big money career at the end of the line.


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