my advice is to just relax. all will be well. enjoy your holidays. i'm sure RR will still be recruiting like hell and i get the strange feeling that he probably had a good idea of who the candidates were for the open DC position. My guess is that we find out within the next week or so.
Do we really know what's happening behind...
This program needs some stability and fast! I'm a diehard and true Blue, but there are some chinks beginning to show in the RR armour. Beaver going to TULSA?!?!? RR 'making' a change at DC with no apparent viable prospects?!?!? Isn't this like the old job rule? You don't quit a job without another one to go to. Is deciding to go in a new 'direction' with the DC a good idea if that direction cannot de found quickly so as to solidify the necessary recruits to build it?
I understand completely the 'differences' between RR and SS, but wouldn't RR have talked to some others and gotten a good feel for their interest in the job if it were to come open? In this economy, with so much uncertainty, would you voluntarily leave a high profile position with a top program with NO job to go to?
The turnover so early in the new regime, with no replacement in the sights gives the impression of uncertainty, and possibly a HC that wants to control the defense as well as the offense. We are all fans, some more knowledgeable than others, but the apparent lack of continuity and ever-growing question marks left by the defection of recruits makes this program look a lot less stable than any top 5-10 progam in the country.
Have we fallen that far in one year? Or is all this coincidental serendipity that simply appears related. Maybe this is all concern over nothing, but if the rumors of Hopson thinking of going back to the South are true, and a quality DC is not found at the same time, the appearance of instability creeps in and the possibility of more lost recruits looms larger.
Can all this be just a Wolverine Christmas Carol and we will all wake up tomorrow morning to find we didn't miss the blessed day and all is right with the Program?
I want to wake up and find Hopson the DC, Big Will, a monster LB and another quality QB in the fold and that all is right in AA.
I realize the concept of teams playing in a bowl is something of a memory around here, but there are a lot of teams playing in bowls over the next 10 days. It could be that RR has already picked the DC, but agreed not to announce until after the Bowl game. It's not like the new DC would have oodles to do over the next 10 days, given you really can't contact recruits.
In the alternative, it's possible RR prefers Hopson to Shafer so letting Shafer go jobhunting was a nice thing to do. And, Hopson is indeed the back-up candidate if something doesn't pan out in the next 10 days. As turbo cool notes, cool it.
no, we don't know what's happending behind...whatever.
So just sit back and enjoy the ride.
entertaining. Kittens and pails, and with Glock's under their chins. I mean, its better than re-runs of Friends.
Who cares if a 17 year old quarterback with a shoulder problem has his mother call the Michigan coach and tell him that her baby is staying home.
Who cares if the worst statistical defensive coordinator in Michigan history has been effectively fired and no one's been hired yet.
And your "economy" argument makes no sense. Tell me again which school is going to eliminate the defensive coordinator position from its football staff. That's zero hands in the air.
And finally, who cares about the "defections" from verbal commits, which again, are slightly less binding than my commitment to go to Taco Bell in an hour for lunch.
Look at it the other way:
(1) I much prefer Shavo leave now than come up here for a year, our staff finds out his shoulder is wrecked and he can't play, or he doesn't like it and he transfers. Now we can get an in-state kid or another high profile kid who actually wants to be in Ann Arbor;
(2) Have you ever bothered to stop and think that Rich Rod may be waiting to interview staff on good teams (Florida, Alabama, Penn State, USC, West Virginia, et al), and therefore, he may be doing the honorable thing and allowing these coaches/coordinators to prepare for their bowl games, and then will make a decision after the bowls, after he can interview them? Maybe he looks back and wishes he could have coached WV in the bowl last year and is giving a coach (Casteel) the same opportunity? Or, we've got Hopson. Calm down.
(3) If you've looked around this board, there is plenty of good recruiting news. A number of early enrollees, including Forcier, Emilien, Hawthorne, etc. with others coming, already 20-21 commitments, with the staff actively looking for 5 - 7 more, as well as a number of kids looking to get the preferred walk-on status.
You need to step back and look at what was left here, what Rich Rod brought in, what happened last year, look at the systems, look not at the record but the improvements, and look at progress. Everything takes patience, repetition, consistency, and experience. Relax. Michigan will be fine. They will be more than fine. Rich Rod's history, and the history of anything done, ever, shows that the longer you go in a program, the better things get.
"Who cares if a 17 year old quarterback with a shoulder problem has his mother call the Michigan coach and tell him that her baby is staying home."
I missed much of the fallout over Beaver's decommit, but did this actually happen? The mother calling, I mean.
....is that Shavo's mother called Coach Rodriguez to tell him that the Beaver was going to hide at Tulsa. That is what I have read on the blogosphere, though this is apocryphal yet highly amusing as a possibility.
As of now, that still qualifies as "apocryphal", I think.
"Isn't this like the old job rule? You don't quit a job without another one to go to. Is deciding to go in a new 'direction' with the DC a good idea if that direction cannot de found quickly so as to solidify the necessary recruits to build it?"
Now while the "old job rule" might be great for some people I find it stupid. If you are stuck in a job that you KNOW that you hate (like I was earlier this year) and you see an opportunity to "stick it to the man" and quit before you get roped in for at least a year commitment at a job you hate then I would hope that most people would do the same thing I did.
Yes I quit my job down in Texas as an field engineer for an oil services company. I hated it, it was awful, I didn't want to do it. So I quit and frankly it was the best decision of my life. I'm now working my dream job in Chicago.
Does it always work out like this? Probably not but if you don't take risks you'll never get the rewards and frankly anyone that hates their job so much to bitch about it everyday and never gets the balls to actually look around for a different job or to just quit... is lame. Suck it up be a man.
I just hope that our football team will have the same fortune as me!
(This post was intended for anytime when our economy was not a complete shit. Please keep in mind that I would not quit any job in this current state of the economy without another one to go to.)
Crap... I stopped reading your reply mid way through and quit my job. I went back to thank you for the motivation and noticed the little disclaimer in parenthesis.... Crap! Maybe THEKNOWLEDGE can get me an interview with RR for the DC position? I'm underqualified yes, but I'm great at asking Corso.
You won't find any hiring information during the week of Christmas or New Years. The lack of a hiring doesn't indicate there's not a plan - people spend this time with families, they aren't going to go on interviews, nor is Rodriguez going to take time away from his family to do one.
I could not agree more. Once again, fans getting wrapped up with the negativity. Not caring to slow down and take a look around them at all the good things. AMazinBlue, your pessimism has me wondering, .... do you work for the Detroit Free Press or something??? Sorry, I don't mean to bust anyone's balls, just sick of the negativity and pessimism.
Take a deep breath, man. Beaver going to Tulsa is not the end of the world (unless Forcier decommits to go to San Diego State or something).
I think the reason no DC has been named is because the likely DC is still coaching. Rodriguez said he wanted one in place by January 7.
Look at how young the roster is? In fact one ESPN guy towards the end of the year said that we had the youngest offensive starting lineup in all of FBS (Div 1A). This team will get better with more experience and any coach would have struggled given the roster, especially adding a new system.
We'll be alright. I fully expect to be competing for a BigTen title again in 2010.
I wrote this as a stream-of-consciousness thing. There is a lot of speculation about a great many things. It was NOT all pessimism or negativity.
The leaving a job stuff makes perfect sense because most employers view someone as more hirable if they are currently working, rather than wondering why they are not. It does not necessarily apply to football coaches. I live in Jackson, MI where the unemployment rate is over 11 percent and foreclosure is just another watercooler subject.
I'm not saying the sky is falling or anything that out there. But GBW has a small piece speculation Hopson may be thinking about the south again. Key there is "thinking". Most of my post was questions and wondering and if one read the entire piece, there is some thought to it all being coincidental and not to worry.
With no bowl game to focus on and a true dead period of recruiting and hiring I was just creating conversation, not calling for heads or questioning the current hiring. I reserve that for the WCF and the Allen Park boys (Lions).
Thank goodness you saved yourself with the sentence right after the one about coaches currently working, because I'd have referred you to Bill Cowher.
The quick hook on Shafer and the growing list of de-commits looks bad. I'm not overly concerned about any single de-comit but at the oddly large number.
After you mentioned those misgivings you were done. The rest of your post is unwarranted panic. These things MAY be reflective of a real problem or they may be nothing. You and I have no way of knowing.
This much I am sure of.
RR has a plan for DC.
RR has not told you his DC plan.
Freaking out because RR has not checked in with you about his plan is just silly.
...why 6 17 year olds de-committing from a verbal, non-binding commitment to play college football "looks bad." Looks bad to who - Rivals? Scout? So what?
It looks to me like what it is - they said "yes" on the spur of the moment, then changed their mind. Or, they secured a scholarship, and then got another one at a school they liked more. Big deal.
Or, they're like McNeal and want to go somewhere else and haven't said yet. Big freaking deal?
SO they change their mind, just like every 17 year old.
And just like I did for lunch today. As I drove home (and wrote an earlier post) I really felt like Taco Bell.
I de-committed from my mental commitment to Taco Bell and ate a salad at home instead. I'm sure the Yum Foods message boards isn't going to question the approach of Taco Bell's value menu, or will be concerned that the chili cheese burrito isn't worth eating anymore.
It could look bad to other 17-year-olds. That's sort of the point.
It was a collection of thoughts and questions that when strung together apparently make others think I'm panicking. It's not panic at all, it an unusual string of occurances and speculation based on the quiet of the moment that seems to point to panic from others' point of view.
It looks "bad" when compared to other top programs who are not having commit/de-commit issues. It also has an effect when a prospect looks at the commit list and sees his position already has two or three commitments, and as a result he may stop considering us or commit to some other school.
None of this is earth-shattering or jump out of a window serious, just topics for discussion on a cold windy Christmas eve.
Remember also, these 17-18 year old kids commit one day and de-commit the next, they also may consider us one day and not the next because "so many"- like 5 or 6 have decommitted.
I don't dedice the quality of my day on this stuff, but it does make you think how it is perceived elsewhere.
I think an announcement is eminent after the bowl season.
I'm 99% sure he does. And that it's Jay Hopson. Rivals guys have been saying it for 3 days.