yes plz
Dear Mr. Woodson; Quit talking to Mark Snyder.
Dear Mr. Woodson,
I see your name in a headline, in today's Detroit Free Press. It probably isn't what you had in mind.
Before saying anything else, however, let me thank you for your great years in Ann Arbor and all of the thrills we saw on the football field. Thanks for all of your hard work. Thanks also for all the time you've devoted to Mott Children's Hospital. You've done so much good, through the hospital and through your foundation.
I presume that as you have been getting ready for the annual Mott Golf Outing and assorted fundraisers, the outreach people have been talking to your agent, and arranging for you to talk to reporters, to promote the event. I presume that that is how Mark Snyder of the Free Press got some of your time in a private telephone interview. As much as you'd like to promote Mott events, it was a mistake on your part to talk to Snyder.
Because while Snyder is willing to throw in a few lines about Mott fundraising, you should have known what would happen; Snyder would ask you all about Mott, get your guard down, and then ask you about Rich Rodriguez. And whatever you gave him, Rodriguez (and not Mott) would become the day's headline.
That is part of the reason that Brady Hoke and David Brandon are not doing any private interviews with Snyder. Your interview with Snyder tore up that page of the Michigan playbook. The other very large part of the story, as you really ought to know, is that Snyder was part of the tag-team that did such damage to the football program. Your Michigan football program. Michigan's NCAA investigation was a wholly-produced effort in which Snyder played a big part. After the harm that was caused by Snyder, why you would give someone like that a private interview is almost unbelievable. There are other ways to get out the news of the annual Mott Golf Outing; in fact, the way that the Free Press goes about its business, it is almost guaratneed to distract from those good works.
There has not been much harm done, by one interview; so that much is no big deal. But put yourself in Snyder's position. He will be at the golf course and the clubhouse that day for the meetings and the dinner, and he will be looking for interviews and stories. You and your fellow football alumni should not give him anything. You all should know that the story that he wants is "the bad old days of Rich Rodriguez" story. He wants to use you guys, to essentially support his story from 2009. You don't have to give it to him. You don't have to talk to Snyder. And if you do, you can say, "All that I have to say about those years, is that the Free Press was awful to this football program. You want me to go on?"
If anyone wants to say, "Hey let's forget about the past; let's move on," that's fine. Just be assured, that when you are talking to Mark Snyder, his idea of "moving on" is by delcaring that Rich Rodriguez was a personal disaster, because that is what his paper is invested in. If you think it is time to "move on," then think about making that your answer when Mark Snyder asks you for an interview. Because that is the message that Brady Hoke and David Brandon are interested in. Ask them, if you are unclear about this.
Quit. Talking. To. Mark. Snyder.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:12 AM | 
I just had to go read the
I just had to go read the
May 17th, 2012 at 11:56 AM |
I've come to the conclusion
I've come to the conclusion
I've come to the conclusion that Section 1 is never going to use his own blog because no one would ever read this rants. So, everyone get to keep suffering his bi-weekly posts until some mod finally moderates the board.
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I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
May 17th, 2012 at 12:14 PM |
New Rush album on 6/12.
New Rush album on 6/12.
New Rush album on 6/12. Hopefully it gets out to Wyoming before the end of summer!
May 17th, 2012 at 2:08 PM |
Are you implying that we are
Are you implying that we are
Are you implying that we are not doing our volunteer jobs? That hurts, David. That hurts.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
May 17th, 2012 at 11:16 AM |
It's funny.
Literally, Rich
It's funny.
Literally, Rich
It's funny.
Literally, Rich Rodriguez is not "the headline". Brady Hoke, literally, is.
Woodson did not say one thing about Rodriguez, and this article only mentions him in passing, to contextualize the improvement made under Hoke.
wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
May 17th, 2012 at 11:21 AM |
Here's a link...
Here's a link...
...to the article in case you want to read it. Funny thing is I wouldn't have even looked if Section 1 hadn't brought it up. The "offending" passage in all of its glory:
During the Rich Rodriguez era of Michigan football, when the program was spinning its wheels or backsliding, one of the best players in U-M history had moments when he had to turn off the games.
Charles Woodson could not watch.
But last season he was watching until the end, enjoying Brady Hoke's 11-2 first season.
"That was great," he said in a phone interview with the Free Press on Wednesday. "I watched every game I could watch. I still watched if traveling. I did not turn them off. That showed the improvements of the year."
For Woodson, U-M's 1997 Heisman Trophy winner and leader of that year's national championship team, the turnaround has been because of the coaches and the players' engagement.
"It was unbelievable," he said. "I kept telling people coaching goes a long way in whatever sport. Having coach Hoke come back, having coach (Greg) Mattison (Woodson's first U-M defensive coordinator) come back. On defense, having coach Mattison come back and teaching these guys how to play football, I knew that would go a long way and get us back on the right track. For me, sitting and watching games this year, watching the defense function the way that it did and really play, with Brady implementing his system, and having the guys play that had (been in) the other system the past three years -- that was special to watch. I was absolutely proud to be a Michigan Wolverine once again."
LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe
May 17th, 2012 at 12:29 PM |
Odd.
Odd.
I'm no Section 1 defender. I agree that he beats this dead horse too often, and at too much length, and he's also made several politically obnoxious comments that have inexplicably but repeatedly escaped moderation. I think the blog might generally be better off without him.
That said, it's odd that people think that the article doesn't talk about RR, or mentions him only in passing. This entire passage contrasts last season to the RR era, and that's obvious. I assume everybody agrees that Michigan shouldn't be giving Snyder or any Free Press employee any interviews for the foreseeable future. So why aren't all the comments of the "yup" variety?
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:00 PM |
I think you just defended me.
I think you just defended me.
And there's a place for you to vote.
You said it:
it's odd that people think that the article doesn't talk about RR, or mentions him only in passing. This entire passage contrasts last season to the RR era, and that's obvious. I assume everybody agrees that Michigan shouldn't be giving Snyder or any Free Press employee any interviews for the foreseeable future. So why aren't all the comments of the "yup" variety?
May 17th, 2012 at 1:25 PM |
Section 1?
Section 1?
Have you been taking your meds as prescribed? It apprears that you may have missed a day. You know, in order for those drugs to work effectively, they must be taken daily.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:28 PM |
Pleading for upvotes is sad,
Pleading for upvotes is sad,
Pleading for upvotes is sad, brother.
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 5:10 PM |
fair point
fair point
don't get used to it.
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:08 PM |
I don't know - at what point
I don't know - at what point
I don't know - at what point do we start thanking the Free Press for helping to bring an end to the disastrous RR era sooner than may have occured otherwise?
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:42 PM |
I hope we never get to that
I hope we never get to that
I hope we never get to that point. If we are truly fans of the program, rather than specific coaches, we should never see the Freep the same way again. However, there IS a difference between moving on from an event with a changed perspective and continually beating a dead horse (i.e., I don't think I'll ever have a positive opinion of Snyder/Rosenberg/the Freep because of what they did to UM. That said, I don't feel that it's necessary to speak out against them whenever I can). Section 1 is either failing to see that distinction, or he's having a hard time coming to grips with it.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:47 PM |
My question was
My question was
My question was tongue-in-cheek. Like you said we have moved on (to a better place) and that's pretty much all we, as fans, should care about, isn't it?
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:22 AM |
You are completely insane.
You are completely insane.
You are completely insane. Please get some help.
For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:24 AM |
I also looked up the article
I also looked up the article
I also looked up the article after I saw your diary post. I normally agree with you about you dislike for Mark Snyder. But, this was mostly about Charles and Mott. Although, the first 6 or so paragraphs were about football and only the 2nd paragraph was about Rich. I guess you have to put that stuff first to grab most readers.
It could have been alot worse. It's is sad that most people have moved on, but not everyone. I am sure most of the Michigan AD will never forget.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:24 AM |
If you are really interested
If you are really interested
If you are really interested in Charles Woodson actually reading this letter, why don't you post it on his Facebook wall? Or on his Foundation's website?
I'm sure he won't read it there either, but at least it is directed in his specific direction rather than on this blog.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:28 AM |
I'm currently clicking the
I'm currently clicking the
I'm currently clicking the freep link over and over to give them as many hits as possible just for you.
For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:28 AM |
Agreed.
Agreed.
Maybe section 1 is really a section 8.
L.S.A. '88
May 17th, 2012 at 11:28 AM |
Dear Section 1; Quit taking a
Dear Section 1; Quit taking a
Dear Section 1; Quit taking a shit on MGoBlog.
"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer
May 17th, 2012 at 11:36 AM |
Not even close to
Not even close to
Not even close to diary-worthy. Mods?
May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 AM |
Create Diary
Create Diary
Create Diary
This is your own personal section of MGoBlog, to post in as you like. There is a minimum of 200 words on a diary entry. This is for your own original content. Note: smack talk is strongly discouraged. Some guidelines for would-be diarists:
- If you're trying to think up filler to get to the word minimum, it should be on the message board.
- If it's off topic, it should be on the message board.
- If it's a link to someone else's content without some added value (analysis, aggregation, critique) it should go on the message board.
In general, anything that's just another post you should put on the board. Something that requires effort you would like to keep around for posterity's sake should be a diary.
May 17th, 2012 at 11:53 AM |
This is for your own original
This is for your own original
This is for your own original content.
It may be your own content, but it isn't original any more.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
May 17th, 2012 at 4:12 PM |
You are confusing necessary
You are confusing necessary
You are confusing necessary with sufficient
May 17th, 2012 at 11:44 AM |
...
...
You're going to need a better tin foil hat.
I'm kind of a big deal in Bolivia.
May 20th, 2012 at 4:39 PM |
i feel bad
i feel bad
for poor Section 1's family. They must dress like this at all times.
Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05
May 17th, 2012 at 11:54 AM |
This.
This.
"In general, anything that's just another post you should put on the board. Something that requires effort you would like to keep around for posterity's sake should be a diary."
posterity:
Definition: 1. generations to come in the future; 2. all of a person's descendants
L.S.A. '88
May 17th, 2012 at 11:56 AM |
One trick pony
One trick pony
You really are a one trick pony, aren't you.
"You're fat and you're mine". Bo to Dan Dierdorf.
May 17th, 2012 at 12:05 PM |
Not really...
Not really...
...if you take the time to read the rest of my Diary entries.
But if indeed "the Free Press" was the only thing I ever wrote about (and it clearly isn't), that would be a problem... how? Is there a monitor of personal diversity of topics?
May 17th, 2012 at 12:00 PM |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
May 17th, 2012 at 12:01 PM |
Quit. Posting. On. MGoBlog.
Quit. Posting. On. MGoBlog.
Quit. Posting. On. MGoBlog.
"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer
May 17th, 2012 at 12:13 PM |
Ugh.
Ugh.
I logged in just to downvote you. Seriously dude, get some help
May 17th, 2012 at 12:13 PM |
Diarist of the Week for sure,
Diarist of the Week for sure,
Diarist of the Week for sure, right Seth?
"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."
May 17th, 2012 at 12:22 PM |
Very interesting
Very interesting
Woodson gives some very candid remarks about his post-football life. Good article. Thanks for sharing #GoBlue #freep
May 17th, 2012 at 12:25 PM |
This is probably
This is probably
This is probably front page worthy. Mods?
GBOD
May 17th, 2012 at 4:58 PM |
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(No subject)
May 17th, 2012 at 12:25 PM |
Still holding a candle for RR
Still holding a candle for RR
For the record, I agree Snyder and Rosenberg authored a hatchet job that significantly harmed the program and our already unfairly beleaguered coach at the time, and the Freep's editors committed journalistic malpractice in allowing their "expose" to be published.
But every time I read one of Section 1's open letters, I have two thoughts:
-
If/when Michigan wins the MNC sometime in the next decade with Hoke as its head coach, Section 1 will write yet another MGoPost in which he asserts RR was wrongfully fired by Dave Brandon.
- Section 1 must have been one of those Michigan fans who was convinced RR would without doubt transform Michigan into a football superpower akin to USC under Pete Carroll (except without the cheating)--and Section 1 broadcast this belief to anyone and everyone within earshot. I say this because amongst my Michigan fan friends, I have found that there is a direct relationship between the degree to which one still (!!) laments the "wrongfulness" of RR's firing and the vociferousness with which one proclaimed RR's preordained success upon his hiring. Section 1 is just one example of this peculiar strain of Michigan arrogance. To some extent, I fell into the same trap, and I've found that the best way to let go of the bitterness is to approach the Extended Horror that was Sept. 1, 2007-Jan. 1, 2011 with humility and humor. It also helped that I was at a wedding with an open bar when the Horror happened.
May 17th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
I make few predcitions; nothing like what you suspect.
I make few predcitions; nothing like what you suspect.
The MGoBoard, as far as we can tell, is in near-universal agreement that Mark Snyder is a schnook.
This weekend is a big weekend for him to do one-on-one interviews with former players surrounding the Mott Outing hoopla.
It is just a good time to get out in public with warnings to former players, as to what it means to talk to him, and with a reminder as to what he has done.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:48 PM |
You dont think
You dont think
that EVERYONE within a 5 million mile radius of AA knows about this? Especially former players?
I understand what you are trying to do and it may be noble, but not MGOBLOG worthy for sure. I just wasted my lunch laughing at your posts. That is one hour I will NEVER get back.
The way I look at it, you owe me one hour of no-posting for every one of us that you wasted our time.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:59 PM |
Lots of former players know very little about this.
Lots of former players know very little about this.
Some may know quite a lot.
I gave a copy of Three and Out to a former President of the Alumni Letterwinners' Club. And someone who had an extraordinary position of information at the time Rodriguez was hired. He's an exceptionally good guy. He stays connected within the group of former football players when he has the time to do it. And he's just basically a very smart guy.
We have talked for a long time about these subjects; at least a couple of hours. He knew things I didn't. I told him things that he had never heard before from his circle of insiders. It was mutually beneficial. He read Three and Out in about three days; it opened his eyes.
If you think that all of the former football players are well informed on the depredations of the Free Press, you are badly mistaken.
May 17th, 2012 at 2:07 PM |
How many more
How many more
hours will you waste on therapy to recover from the trauma of the gun put to your head, thus making you read his posts?
May 17th, 2012 at 2:57 PM |
This is true
This is true
because a vast majority of posts are well thought out and well written. It is generally accepted that most posts here are worthy of reading, not all but most.
This is a MEEECHIGAN Blog fergodsakes. Michigan has very high standards as everyone knows. Ergo, it is expected that the posts are well written, informative, and worthy of a post on the Mgoboard.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
May 17th, 2012 at 12:37 PM |
I'm very curious as to
I'm very curious as to
I'm very curious as to whether the RR loyalists will bash Chuck Woodson , in a manner similar to how they have bashed Eric Mayes, Braylon Edwards, Aaron Shea, since he openly admitted that, after seeing Hoke's team last season, "I was absolutely proud to be a Michigan Wolverine once again." Implying that he was not absolutely proud to be a Michigan Wolverine in the RR era. But he's Charles Woodson. The internal struggles in this shrinking group must be glorious.
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 12:55 PM |
In fact, I had the chance to do that (bash Woodson)
In fact, I had the chance to do that (bash Woodson)
But I didn't bash Woodson.
Meanwhile, what is a blindly-loyal Michigan supporter supposed to do with Braylon Edwards? Paternity cases, multiple auto arrests, 3am rollovers on Bell Isle, stupid public statements about everything from jersey numbers to losing his cellphone on the night that his entourage was scuffling with bar-bouncers... and turning it into a nuisance lawsuit for defamation. How do the fanboyz struggle with that sector of hero-worship?
I could have reacted wildly to Woodson's quotes, and didn't. I wouldn't trust Snyder's reporting enough to make a judgment about one of his interview subjects.
If some of the football alums do want to talk to Snyder about Rodriguez. etc., that's okay; but there will be a lot more questions to follow, methinks. I think the better policy is the one Brandon and Hoke seem to have established by their own example; don't give Mark Snyder any interviews.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:05 PM |
It makes my heart flutter
It makes my heart flutter
It makes my heart flutter when I hear our current and former players talk about how much better things are now with a new (old) coaching staff that does things the right way on and off the field. They aren't stupid, they see the same energy in the program that we do, the energy that was missing for 3 years. Hard to react wildly to Woodson's quote since it is undeniable fact.
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 1:14 PM |
Will Ryan Van Bergen
Will Ryan Van Bergen
be invited to golf?
May 17th, 2012 at 1:17 PM |
I'd like to see RVB question
I'd like to see RVB question
I'd like to see RVB question Chuck's devotion to Michigan to his face. So yes, I hope so.
The swag is back.
May 17th, 2012 at 12:53 PM |
Like the Alamo
Like the Alamo
Like the Alamo, the USS Maine, Spartan Bob, the Charles White fumble, and the 2011 Iowa debacle, we must never forget. Keep fighting the good fight Section 1, the Freep's treachery will be avenged!
May 17th, 2012 at 12:56 PM |
To quote a mod, Jesus
To quote a mod, Jesus
To quote a mod, Jesus tapdancing Christ.
There is a threshold at which the weekly anti-Freep (yes, we all hate the Freep too) screeds become redundantly gratuitous. We passed that threshold 5860 yards ago. Why, yes, that is the yardage we gave up in 2010 using the 3-3-5 stack that RichRod, not Snyder, implemented.
/thread
Former Buckeye Antonio Pittman on being a poster child for compliance: "This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01."
May 17th, 2012 at 1:31 PM |
Best. Troll. Ever.
Best. Troll. Ever.
Best. Troll. Ever.
I just had to go read the Woodson article, which I wouldn't have unless you made it known. Woodson said nothing about Rich Rodriguez.
This "open letter" is better posted at your personal blog, which I believe Seth set up for you.
You fail to realize that you are keeping the past alive by writing garbage like this.