CC: Ranking player development

Submitted by stubob on

Inspired by this Bill Connelly post at sbnation about Nebraska, I wanted to look at the upcoming coaching change in terms of developing talent, and exceeding or underperforming expectations. In the article Bill asserts that comparing performance ranking to recruiting ranking is a reasonable way of determing performance.

So I took that theory and applied it to Michigan's past coaches, some of our leading candidates, and our competition to see what I could see. I tried to use the most recent tenure as possible, to show comparisons relative to each other. One thing that stood out early was that almost every coach underperformed expectations, but with most of these coaches recruiting at top-10 level, it would be hard not to. Without further ado, here's what I found.

Michigan Men

Let's start at the very beginning, it's a very good place to start.

coach school years recruiting avg f+ avg +/- career recruiting average career f+ average career +/
Hoke Michigan 2011 26 9 17      
Hoke   2012 6 20 -14      
Hoke   2013 4 37 -33      
Hoke   2014 20 58 -38 14 31 -17
Rodriguez Michigan 2008 11 73 -62      
Rodriguez 2009 12 58 -46      
Rodriguez 2010 17 47 -30 13.33333 59.33333 -46
Carr Michigan 2004 6          
Carr   2005 5 12 -7      
Carr   2006 9 6 3      
Carr   2007 8 28 -20 7.333333 15.33333 -8

Not much we don't already know. Carr started tailing off, Rodriguez improved from a terrible start, and Hoke has fallen off after an outlier of a start. One interesting way to view this would be year-by-year, since obviously Carr's last year preceeds Rodriguez's first, etc.  Michigan's recruiting has been very good, except for Hoke's first class, which still almost ended up top-25. Performance has been great (but not exceptional) to, well, I don't need to remind you how bad 2008 was (worst of any analyzed here).

The Contenders

coach school years recruiting avg f+ avg +/- career recruiting average career f+ average career +/
Harbaugh Stanford 2007 44 66 -22      
Harbaugh   2008 45 58 -13      
Harbaugh   2009 18 31 -13      
Harbaugh   2010 24 6 18 32.75 40.25 -7.5
Mullen Miss St 2011 34 49 -15      
Mullen   2012 22 62 -40      
Mullen   2013 25 33 -8      
Mullen   2014 35 5 30 29 37.25 -8.25
Patterson TCU 2011 30 18 12      
Patterson 2012 29 31 -2      
Patterson 2013 35 44 -9      
Patterson 2014 42 4 38 34 24.25 9.75
Miles LSU 2011 8 2 6      
Miles   2012 14 10 4      
Miles   2013 6 17 -11      
Miles   2014 2 14 -12 7.5 10.75 -3.25
Pelini Nebraska 2011 16 28 -12      
Pelini   2012 30 19 11      
Pelini   2013 22 39 -17      
Pelini   2014 36 25 11 26 27.75 -1.75

Yep, Stanford went from underperforming to outperforming expectations, even as recruiting improved. Performance went from average to excellent, and recruiting went from above average to good. That's pretty good performance in both categories, and will be hard to beat for the candidates we've selected.

At this point, I couldn't decide whether to order by who's best or who's most likely to accept if offered. Since we're all dreaming at this poit, I decided to go with who's best.

Dan Mullen started off with above-average recruiting, and improved some, but not much of the last four years. But the performance improvement is amazing. His team went from average to elite in two years. How much regression would we expect next year? Well, their four year average is about 37, offset against an upward overall scoring trend.

Gary Patterson is pretty much the poster child for over-achieving. Recruiting in the mid-30's, with teams outperforming by almost 10 spots. It's easy to see why people are trippig over themselves to see what he'd do with a top-10 recruiting clss. Recruiting hasn't gotten much better, but he's been there for so long, and competing against Texas and everyone else for recruits, it's tough to imagine them rising much higher than they are. Performance had been sliding backwards until this year, but still inline with expectations overall.

Next up, somewhat surprisingly is Bo Pelini. I was somewhat surprised that Nebraska fired him, especially after winning their last game, but the writing has been on the wall since the open-mike comments last year. Pelini has performed about inline with expectations or better, which was a little surprising. I didn't realize how far down Nebraska was in the recruiting rankings, which does explain their performance a bit. Recruiting in the mid-20s, performance in the mid-20s, trending improvement. We could certainly do worse.

The Hat. Looks like the consensus on him is pretty accurate. Great recruiter, good on the field, trending downward. Now, part of that is due to their great class this year, which would indicate a potential bounce-back coming, but that's what the numbers say now. Still only -3 relative to expectations, which seems pretty good.

The Competition

coach school years recruiting avg f+ avg +/- career recruiting average career f+ average career +/
B Kelly ND 2011 9 13 -4      
B Kelly   2012 18 7 11      
B Kelly   2013 5 26 -21      
B Kelly   2014 11 34 -23 10.75 20 -9.25
Meyer OSU 2012 5 14 -9      
Meyer   2013 2 9 -7      
Meyer   2014 3 3 0 3.333333 8.666667 -5.33333
Saban Alabama 2011 1 1 0      
Saban   2012 1 1 0      
Saban   2013 1 2 -1      
Saban   2014 1 1 0 1 1.25 -0.25
Muschamp Florida 2011 12 34 -22      
Muschamp 2012 4 4 0      
Muschamp 2013 3 48 -45      
Muschamp 2014 9 39 -30 7 31.25 -24.25
Dantonio State 2011 32 11 21      
Dantonio   2012 33 15 18      
Dantonio   2013 37 6 31      
Dantonio   2014 25 15 10 31.75 11.75 20

Obviously Muschamp isn't competition any more, but I included him to compare with Hoke. Florida had better recruits, but has been unable to do much with them, 2012 excepted. As a result, he comes in with a score between Hoke and Rodriguez, and, not surprisingly looking for a new job.

Urban Meyer is improving a loaded OSU team, from underperforming to meeting expectations in just three years. They've had top-5 recruiting classes, and the performance is starting to match. No reason to expect otherwise next year, unless the coordinators get poached (please, everyone poach their coordinators).

Nick Saban, well, what is there to say? Number one recruiting classes all four years, number one performance all four years. Technically that's five years of recruiting, since so many recruits don't make it to campus, but those are the numbers I have. Newsflash: Alabama is good, has been good, and probably will be good.

Brian Kelly at ND was a bit of a surprise. I didn't realize how far down their performance was. Next year could be make-or-break for him, and if their performance continues to slide, I'm not sure where he would wind up next. I was actually considering him as a possible candidate, but after looking at the numbers, I'm not convinced. We know he can recruit, but seems to be having trouble putting it on the field

Finally, Mark Dantonio. Tip of the hat to you, you crazy nutball. Recruiting in the mid-30s, top 15 performances. That's pretty clear evidence of outperforming expectations.

Conclusion

So after looking at year-to-year performance, I charted the overall relative over/underperformance of each coach. Here's the result.


So, what does all this tell us? Well, it's easier to outperform expectations when you're lower in the recruiting rankings. If you have a top-10 class, there's not much room to outperform. It's really about meeting expectations at that point. Harbaugh is the only coach I profiled with consistent improvement, but as far as our best available candidates, can you believe it's Dantonio, Patterson, and Pelini?

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