Boren, Lost Linemen, and a Staff to be Proud of

I recall a few good friends on the 88-92 teams who were on the OL and had Hanlon as their coach, and they were petrified of him.

oh, and by the way, Boren's father Mike should have put a lid on his kid's mouth... it's disappointing.

All Michigan Men unite and hold that soap! It can get a bit slippery in the shower, and you can't hold it too tightly or it will shoot out like a booger from a sneeze.

Seriously, people, forget about Boren.

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Yeah, I work with Corey Zirbel's GF and he comes in all the time and hangs out with us. He was his roommate their Freshman and Sophomore years and he said that Boren was very anti-social and was home every weekend during the off seasons. He also said that Boren's dad bought him a brand new boat for going to Michigan so there's the bribe part. It was interesting to see how little he cared about Boren leaving, being his roommate/ housemate and all.

If points 1-5 contain even an ounce of truth, then Boren should feel damn lucky none of this was made public by the coaching staff. This was clearly an addition by subtraction and I can't wait to see Martin and Big Will bitch smack him this November!

Before he transferred, he was singled out by both Barwis and Rodriguez for being the hardest worker on the team thus far in Spring Practice. He likely transferred because he didn't like Rodriguez, or Michigan, and his family was upset his brother wasn't offered. Not because he couldn't hack it. If you think OSU has a cream-puff S&C program, you're fooling yourself.

The Michigan coaches give Boren an outright release allowing him to go to OSU and he thanks them by setting the bridge ablaze as he leaves. That should be all anyone needs to know about the situation.

Thank you for posting this. Your story and accounts of what Coach Fry said, certainly seem spot-on and jive well with other accounts of Boren's actions at Michigan (aka the snowplow leave of absences, the charity car wash incident etc)....

I also agree with you completely on how the staff has handled this very professionally.

Better to weed out kids like this one who can be cancerous to a program....and start fresh with players that are willing to work hard to improve.

I'm sorry, but I don't know who A_Maize_Zing is or how he this access. Any help for the uninformed?

I guess the phrase "everybody's equal, though some are more equal than others" applied to Boren under Lloyd. Sounds like it changed rather quickly when the new staff arrived.

A Maize Zing, I like what you wrote. The kid really never wanted to be here in the first place, from what you are saying.

Anyway, we've got about six weeks until we start finding out some answers

We will surprise in 2009.

i can't believe that you are believing the lies that frey is saying about boren now to cover his ass.

1. boren did go home on weekends but never missed a practice or meeting & so was a non issue with rr.

2. the comment that justin never wanted to go to um is laughable at best. his whole life he spent loving um & had known bo from a baby. his years with carr and moeller are 2 of the best years of his life. oh sure his dad had to bribe him to go to um. what kind of crap is that?

3. justin loved barwis and barwis loved justin and named him the workout room warrier the 2 weeks in a row before justin left um.

4. justin didn't hate to run.....he wasn't able to run long distances as he had whats called compartment syndrome & he was to have surgery on both his calves the spring rr took over. the coaches all knew about this. by the way he just had this surgery done at osu this year so hes able to run long distances now without cramping up.
ok now your story about frey joking about running sprints.....part of that is true and frey was always making the players stay after practice and after every other coach & player left & made the linemen runs sprints till they dropped.

well at that point and time of freys so called joke which by the way was not going to be a joke till justin left the practice field. and justin left at that point in time because he was at his breaking point with frey & rr

he quit the team right after this episode.

5. barwis had to force justin to work out frey says??? are you kidding me!!!! frey is such a big lier. justin has always loved to work out and i explained this in # 3.

bottom line what frey didn't say to a maize zing is that hes a sexual pervert & every day all day long in meetings all he wanted to talk about to the players was how he screwed a girl the night before that he would have picked up in a bar and go into great details. plus he always had to talk at length about how he was an all american in high school and had to ride the bench in college and how he got screwed over etc.

so believe what you want about boren and others. but in borens case he couldn't continue having frey & rr as his coaches and perform up to his expectations.

and don't tell me in the future how great rr & frey were to never trash boren. they sure as hell did thru others who they got to do their dirty work.

as for rr giving justin his transfer papers......another lie. rr wouldn't give justin his release and held it up and told justin he could hold it up for years. justins dad had to go to martin & threaten a law suit if he didn't give justin his relase.

its so sad how all this came about and so sad for the boren family who loved um & everything it used to stand for.

If I may be so rude to ask, how are you privy to such details? And why are you defending a kid who trashed our program? The rest of the guys who have been interviewed in the press(Schilling, Omameh, Ortmann)have only said positive things about the new staff.

And while I am not a legal expert, I believe your assertion that CoachRod held up his transfer papers is rubbish. The school would be facing dire consequences from the NCAA over an infraction like that. U of M would never allow such a thing to happen.

Are you a Buckeye fan trolling here?

The thing I remember Mike Boren saying was that he wasn't going to have his boys go to different schools, which led me to believe that Zach's not being offered was the biggest problem the family had with Michigan.

This thread is disturbing on several levels.

1) I don't like the allegations about Frey.

2) Some of the truth squad assertions could be true; I don't know.

3) Some of the OP assertions can be true, again, not clear.

4) Some of the posters seem to be slamming others saying things they don't want to hear.

5) On this last, are we willing and ready to hear truth about Michigan, regardless of whether we like it or not? We're willing to trash little brother and OSU and Alabama and Louisville and Memphis. If and when our coaches and our team do something out of line, I hope we are big enough to criticize their bad actions. It doesn't help to be someone who can dish it out but not take it. That's called a bully.

Innuendo and slander are not good. I don't like it against RR, but I also don't like it against Boren & Tressel et al.

I also think that sometimes, when we make mistakes, and are embarassed, we're glad not to have our names dragged through the mud. I think Boren made some mistakes in what he said when he left. But let it go. I do think it likely that the Boren family loved Michigan, and threads like this seem intent on bashing Boren and burning bridges further. Who does this help?

Doesn't anyone remember the story about Bo sitting at the kitchen table with Justin and Mike when Justin was trying to decide, and Bo turned to Mike and said, "You're not going to let him go to Ohio State are you?
That story has always stuck in my craw and lends credence to the statement that Justin never wanted to go to UM in the first place.

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