Freddy Canteen and prefer Moe Ways for Michigan NOTY
Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 8-4-13
This edition of the recruiting rankings features a change at the top of the board — one you probably won't like, obviously — as well as the debut of the NOTY Power Rankings, because players named J-Shun and Geronimo committed to Big Ten schools this month and this clearly requires action.
Changes since last rankings:
7-5-13: Jason Hall decommits from Nebraska (later commits to Texas). Nebraska picks up Larenzo Stewart.
7-8-13: Wisconsin picks up D.J. Gillins. Iowa picks up Mick Ellis. Purdue picks up Gelen Robinson.
7-9-13: Northwestern picks up Robert Westerfield. Illinois picks up Julian Hylton.
7-10-13: Indiana picks up J-Shun Harris.
7-15-13: Michigan State picks up Matt Morrissey.
7-16-13: Iowa picks up Terrence Harris.
7-19-13: Indiana picks up Nick Carovillano and Jermane Conyers.
7-20-13: Iowa picks up Ben Niemann. Minnesota picks up Andrew Stelter.
7-23-13: Purdue picks up Drue Tranquill.
7-24-13: Illinois picks up Tyrin Stone-Davis.
7-25-13: Illinois picks up Tyree Stone-Davis and Geronimo Allison.
7-28-13: Ohio State picks up Demetrious Knox.
7-29-13: Ohio State picks up Malik Hooker.
8-3-13: Michigan State picks up Robert Bowers.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|247 Comp. Rank* (Nat'l Rank)||School||# Commits||5*||4*||3*||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||247 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^|
|1 (6) ↑1||Ohio State||16||0||10||6||3.38||3.63||3.79||3.65||3.61|
|2 (10) ↓1||Michigan||14||1||7||6||3.50||3.57||3.57||3.79||3.61|
|4 (24)||Penn State||13||0||4||9||3.23||3.31||3.31||3.38||3.31|
|5 (29)||Michigan State||14||0||0||14||3.07||3.14||3.36||3.21||3.20|
|8 (43) ↑1||Iowa||12||0||1||8||2.83||2.83||2.92||2.83||2.85|
|9 (49) ↓1||Nebraska||11||0||0||10||2.82||2.55||3.00||3.18||2.89|
|11 (69) ↑2||Indiana||10||0||0||7||2.50||2.50||2.60||2.80||2.60|
|12 (70) ↑2||Purdue||8||0||0||6||2.63||2.88||2.75||2.88||2.78|
|13 (76) ↓1||Minnesota||6||0||1||5||3.00||3.33||3.17||2.67||3.04|
|14 (79) ↓3||Maryland||8||0||0||6||2.75||2.50||2.75||3.00||2.75|
*Full rankings and explanation here.
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
|#1 Ohio State - 16 Commits|
The Buckeyes move past Michigan into the top spot after adding TX OL Demetrious Knox and PA ATH Malik Hooker, whom the Buckeyes recruited as a safety.
|#2 Michigan - 14 Commits|
Freddy Canteen picks up three stars from ESPN while his teammate, Brandon Watson, earns three from Scout. (Strangely, Watson is still unranked on ESPN — it's not like he and Canteen play on the same high school team and attend all the same camps or anything.)
|#3 Rutgers - 20 Commits|
Scout gives Jacob Kraut three stars and upgrades Deonald Bedell and Brandon Russell to two stars each. Rutgers maintains a tenuous hold on the third spot, one they'll lose as soon as one of the three schools behind them pick up another commit or two.
|#4 Penn State - 13 Commits|
|Troy Vincent Jr.||CB||MD||4||4||3||4|
No change for the Nittany Lions, though one could be on the horizon now that Michigan has offered in-state linebacker Jared Wangler, son of former Michigan QB John and brother of 2013 preferred walk-on Jack.
|#5 Michigan State - 14 Commits|
|Enoch Smith Jr.||DT||IL||4||3||4||4|
The Spartans land IL S Matt Morrissey and OH DE Robert Bowers. David Beedle and Jalen Watts-Jackson each pick up three stars on 247; Watts-Jackson also earns a two-star rating on Scout.
|#6 Northwestern - 13 Commits|
The Wildcats pick up TX LB Noah Westerfield.
|#7 Wisconsin - 11 Commits|
The Badgers add dual-threat FL QB D.J. Gillins.
|#8 Iowa - 12 Commits|
The Hawkeyes move past Nebraska after adding three commits in NJ DE Terrence Harris, IL LB Ben Niemann, and TX K Mick Ellis. The move up the board may not last long, however, as Iowa is in serious danger of losing their top-ranked commit, Ross Pierschbacher, to Alabama or Stanford. I'm okay with this if it means I don't have to attempt to spell "Pierschbacher" again in my life.
|#9 Nebraska - 11 Commits|
The Huskers lose TX S Jason Hall, who later committed to Texas, but gain another (albeit lower-ranked) Lone Star State prospect in RB Larenzo Stewart. Tanner Farmer is bumped up to four stars on 247; Trai Mosley earns three stars from 247 and ESPN; Freedom Akinmoladun gets two stars on Scout; Drew Brown picks up three stars from ESPN.
|#10 Illinois - 12 Commits|
|Tyrin Stone-Davis (JuCo)||WR||CA||3||3||4||NR|
|Geronimo Allison (JuCo)||WR||IA||3||2||3||NR|
|Tyree Stone-Davis (JuCo)||CB||CA||3||2||NR||NR|
The Illini add three JuCo commits in twins(!) Tyrin and Tyree Stone-Davis and spectacularly-named IA WR Geronimo Allison; they also pick up in-state ATH Julian Hylton.
|#11 Indiana - 10 Commits|
|DeAndre Herron (JuCo)||OL||IA||3||3||3||NR|
The Hoosiers jump two spots after landing OH DE Nick Carovillano, GA DT Jermane Conyers, and in-state WR J-Shun Harris. Donovan Clark, Alexander Diamont, and Willie Yarbary all pick up three stars from ESPN.
|#12 Purdue - 8 Commits|
The Boilermakers also move up two spots after picking up their two highest-ranked commits — not to mention a pair of familar names around these parts — in IN DE Gelen Robinson and IN S/LB Drue Tranquill. That's a great pair of additions to Purdue, as well as two candidates for the traditional late-cycle snake-oiling.
|#13 Minnesota - 6 Commits|
The Gophers add in-state DE Andrew Stelter but still drop a spot in the team rankings.
|#14 Maryland - 8 Commits|
No change for the Terps, who are getting a head start on embarrassing the Big Ten, apparently.
NOTY Power Rankings
For the hell of it, here's how the Big Ten recruiting rankings would look — in one man's humble opinion — if ranked by each team's best-monikered commit.
1. Wisconsin (Taiwan Deal)
2. Iowa (Jyaz Jones)
3. Nebraska (Freedom Akinmoladun)
4. Michigan (Moe Ways)
5. Illinois (Geronimo Allison)
6. Minnesota (Dimonic McKinzy)
7. Indiana (J-Shun Harris)
8. Michigan State (Vayante Copeland)
9. Purdue (Drue Tranquill)
10. Ohio State (Kyle Trout)
11. Rutgers (Adonis Jennings)
12. Northwestern (Solomon Vault)
13. Penn State (Noah Beh)
14. Maryland (Uh... Brett Kulka, I guess? You stink at this too, Maryland.)
Blatant oversight on my part. Editing now.
Depressing that Rutgers has a clear #3 class in the B1G already. You'd expect somebody else to have better than the 23rd-ranked class nationally.
Beyond that, seems about right. Is OSU at (or near) their scholarship cap? I feel like they won't be able to take more than 1-2 players and still hit the sanctions limit.
OSU recruiting people seem to think they can squeeze 20-21 players into this class, though I'd be curious to see how much of that depends on attrition.
Last I checked, they had 15 or 16 open slots. Assuming Shazier and Roby go pro, getting 3 or 4 more through attrition doesn't seem unusual.
I have fairly good confidence that osu nor St Urban would oversign, or even come close to violating the strict rules the B1G has against it, squeezing 20-21 out of the class when they have 16 now, depending on minor attrition that always seems to happen, suggests to me that they know something that we don't. Hard to say at this point, still 7 months away from NSD and all...
Rutgers' class is ranked high based on just numbers alone. They have 20 commits whereas the next highest numbers in the B1G are 16 (OSU) and 14 (Michigan, MSU, some others). Their average isn't that great either. I expect them to be around 7-8 when its all done, with Michigan, OSU, PSU, and MSU being a clear top 4 (Northwestern is almost done with their class so i don't see how much higher they can go barring a committment from Parkerr Westphal)
There's a guy with a first name of "Dimonic" with a poorly spelled Scottish surname and you rank him #6? smh
Where would you rank Scrooge McDuck or <no first name> McLovin?
Tranqull is horribly underrated. And McKinzy overrated. Flip them, and I'd be pretty happy.
I also prefer Enoch Smith, Jr. to Vayante Copeland. It's the Jr. that sells it.
This, combined with the comment above, is why I didn't even bother to try and defend my picks. To each their own.
I'm sure there is a reason but I find it odd that Illinois got commitments from twins on separate days.
Purdue... Not terrible
I can't believe you aren't giving any love to TANner FARMER.
but interesting that staee has a recruit named nucky(enoch)
Anyone else think its weird that Jared Wangler, who will be playing in the Under Armour All American game, is rated a 2 star by Rivals, who is sponsered by Under Armour and I'm pretty sure makes the picks for the game? Are they updating their rankings any time soon?
I thought ESPN and Under Armour were connected. And Rivals was connected to the U.S. Army All-American Game.
You could be right. I was just going by what was on their top 100 ranking page where it says says presented by Under Armour, but that may be for the list and not for the actual game.
Maybe he's just not a near-elite player. If Hoke & Co. does manage to flip him, Michigan's averages go down & Penn State's moves up.
But doesn't the fact that he's playing in the UA game imply he's a near-elite player? Isn't that what the game is for? Has a two star ever played in either AA game?
The short answer: there has been one 'consensus' 2* play in the UA game, and only one other player who had a single 2* ranking to at least one of the services.
ESPN actually made this search easy, at least with respect to their rankings: LINK
For the 2014 kids, Wangler is the only 3* according to ESPN.
In years past I'm going to ignore kickers and long snappers, because there are a few of them on the roster as 2* and 3* players, but based on ESPN rankings there has been just one 2* player (Deion Sanders Jr.). He was a 2* to both ESPN and Rivals (NR by 247, 3* to Scout).
2013: one 3* LB
2012: one 3* DT, one 3* OL, one 3* RB, one 3* ATH, one 2* ATH
2011: four 3* OL, one 3* QB, one 3* TE, one 3* CB, one 3* WR
2010: three 3* LB, one 3* S, one 3* OL, one 3* DT, one 3* WR
I also cross-referenced all the players above with the other services, and while a handful were Not Rated by 247, all the other ratings except one (Trey Griffey a 2* to Scout) across the other services had them as 3* or 4* players
In fact, the majority had at least one 4* ranking. So, if history repeats itself, there's a good chance Wangler will be a 3* to all the services by the time the final rankings come out.
Freedom Akinmoladun only makes third? Tough year, name-wise!
I've noticed that OSU and Rutgers have been battling for similar recruits. If Rutgers wins a couple, they might cement themselves right behind OSU and UM.
Not likely. With their very low average rating right now, there's a good chance there will be teams passing them by as they fill out their classes. They're #3 right now on the basis of quantity, not quality.
True, they believe they're in good position to possibly land Curtis Samuel, Jon Hilliman, and Saeed Blacknall along with a couple others. I doubt they land them though, except for Hilliman.
INDIANA ON THE RISE!
Stone Davis to Illinois. Kelvin and Kevin Grady approve, as do terry and Terrence talbot.
Still searching the weeds for every 3* he can find
but I will take it because that means our attrition is down.
and Malik McDowell and maybe Parrker Westphal will not only reverse 1-2, but also put some separation in there that won't be closed again.
On a national level, the size of Michigan's class has them as a fringe top 10 except for ESPN:
I continue to be amazed at the poorness of Illinois football - so much potential, so little results. Should be a gold mine in IL with OH right next door. On a sour note not liking all the OL talent Ohio is bringing in - it seemed their one weakness in recent years relative to Michigan - looked like 3 high caliber kids and a 4th on the border "based on stars". The OSU DL v UM OL battles should be immense in the coming years based on projections but I thought the UM DL vs OSU OL would be clearly to our advantage in the 2015-2016 time frame. Looks like Urban is trying to address that. Poopy.
Not to be that guy, but by "right next door", I think you really mean "a couple doors down."
Indiana only counts for basketball - its a football black hole :) hence doesn't count.
Illinois has historically recruited the Chicagoland poorly in all sports. Beyond that the football program lacks the tradition and the fanbase to really sell recruits. Their best recruiting selling points are essentially a solid education, as well as the opportunity to play in a premier conference, and this is offered at every other school in the Big Ten.
Just curious for the guys who follow this religiously - I was noting only one 5 star had committed the conference thus far (ours) so I went back to look at Rivals for example and in 2013 they had 33, in 2012 32, and 2011 26 players ranked 5 star but in 2014 ....only 18. Is it normal for such a discrepency from year to year? Does Rivals do another pass through after next November and expand the class of 5 stars or it is just a down year in terms of their elite talent in 2014? Maybe asked better - is there a pre-determined # of 5 stars generally (I assumed 30ish) or if the country is really lacking players in any one year you could in theory have say eight 5 stars one year and 40 the next?
On a side note just realized what a haul Notre Dame had last year - four of the countries 5 stars per rivals.
The number fluctuates a bit, but Rivals defines 5* as a top 25-30 prospect in the class, hence they tend to be right around there once they're finalized for the class. They update them over time,
Thank you for the link. And apologies for grammar tonight: countries = country's. Looks like they have 7-10 more five stars to hand out then at some point.
Rutgers has an Adonis and a Heeman. Nice.
Lets play a game. List the Big 10 programs currently in the lead for 3 top 100 players including at least 1 5*! Go!
must be what's getting me all these Farmer's ads in Chinese at the top of the page.
I wonder if Ace is going to start doing this again after all the Depressing Doom is over.