I don't think they changed Les at all actually
Big Ten Recruiting Rankings: 7-8-12
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Not a lot of action in the rankings this week, as Indiana(!) is your most active school of the past seven days with two commits. Nebraska and Wisconsin each add a headliner to their class and Brisly Estime ends one of the shortest commitments on record. Changes since the last rankings:
6-29-12: Brisly Estime decommits from Purdue.
7-2-12: Nebraska picks up Marcus Newby.
7-3-12: Wisconsin picks up Darius Latham. Indiana picks up Evan Jansen.
7-7-12: Indiana picks up Patrick Dougherty.
Chart? Chart:
| Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rank | School | # Commits | Rivals Avg | Scout Avg | 24/7 Avg | ESPN Avg | Avg Avg^ |
| 1 | Michigan | 22 | 3.55 | 3.82 | 3.73 | 3.64 | 3.68 |
| 2 | Notre Dame | 16 | 3.56 | 3.88 | 3.69 | 3.81 | 3.73 |
| 3 | Ohio State | 14 | 3.79 | 3.79 | 3.79 | 3.64 | 3.75 |
| 4 | Penn State | 14 | 3.50 | 3.50 | 3.50 | 3.57 | 3.52 |
| 5 | Illinois | 15 | 2.93 | 2.80 | 2.66 | 2.93 | 2.83 |
| 6 | Iowa | 15 | 2.87 | 2.73 | 2.80 | 2.87 | 2.82 |
| 7 | Nebraska | 12 | 3.25 | 3.17 | 3.25 | 3.25 | 3.23 |
| 8 | Wisconsin | 11 | 3.18 | 3.09 | 3.09 | 3.09 | 3.11 |
| 9 | Michigan State | 10 | 3.00 | 3.10 | 3.10 | 3.10 | 3.08 |
| 10 | Northwestern | 11 | 2.82 | 2.73 | 2.64 | 2.72 | 2.72 |
| 11 | Purdue | 5 | 2.80 | 2.40 | 2.60 | 2.20 | 2.50 |
| 12 | Minnesota | 4 | 2.50 | 2.75 | 3.00 | 2.75 | 2.75 |
| 13 | Indiana | 3 | 2.67 | 2.00 | 2.67 | 2.33 | 2.44 |
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
| #1 Michigan - 22 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Patrick Kugler | OL | PA | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Shane Morris | QB | MI | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Dymonte Thomas | S | OH | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Kyle Bosch | OL | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jake Butt | TE | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| David Dawson | OL | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Chris Fox | OL | CO | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ben Gedeon | LB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jourdan Lewis | CB | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike McCray | LB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Henry Poggi | DT | MD | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Logan Tuley-Tillman | OL | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Wyatt Shallman | ATH | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Taco Charlton | DE | OH | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Gareon Conley | CB | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| DeVeon Smith | RB | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Maurice Hurst Jr. | DT | MA | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Jaron Dukes | WR | OH | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Khalid Hill | TE | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Csont'e York | WR | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Channing Stribling | CB | NC | 2 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Scott Sypniewski | LS | IL | 2 | 2 | 2 | NR |
No change for the Wolverines.
| #2 Notre Dame - 16 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Jaylon Smith | LB | IN | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 |
| Hunter Bivin | OL | KY | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Steven Elmer | OL | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike Heuerman | TE | FL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike McGlinchey | OL | PA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Isaac Rochell | DE | GA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Malik Zaire | QB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| John Montelus | OL | MA | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Colin McGovern | OL | IL | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jacob Matuska | DE | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| James Onwualu | WR | MN | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Danny Mattingly | TE | WA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Corey Robinson | WR | TX | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Rashad Kinlaw | ATH | NJ | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Devin Butler | CB | DC | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Michael Deeb | LB | FL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
No change for the Irish.
| #3 Ohio State - 14 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Cameron Burrows | CB | OH | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jalin Marshall | ATH | OH | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 |
| Joey Bosa | DE | FL | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| J.T. Barrett | QB | TX | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Marcus Baugh | TE | CA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Michael Hill | DT | SC | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Evan Lisle | OL | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Billy Price | DT | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Eli Woodard | CB | NJ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ezekiel Elliott | RB | MO | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jayme Thompson | S | OH | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Tracy Sprinkle | DE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Darron Lee | ATH | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Johnny Townsend | P | FL | NR | NR | 2 | NR |
Ezekiel Elliott and Jayme Thompson each earn four-star ratings from 247, while Johnny Townsend gets ranked as a two-star.
| #4 Penn State - 14 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Adam Breneman | TE | PA | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Dorian Johnson | OL | PA | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 |
| Christian Hackenberg | QB | VA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Greg Webb | DT | NJ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Garrett Sickels | DE | NJ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ross Douglas | CB | OH | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Brendan Mahon | OL | NJ | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| William Fuller | WR | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Zayd Issah | LB | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Andrew Nelson | OL | PA | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Brandon Bell | LB | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Zach Bradshaw | WR | MD | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Curtis Cothran | DE | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Neiko Robinson | S | FL | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
No change for the Nittany Lions.
| #5 Illinois - 15 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Aaron Bailey | QB | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Caleb Day | CB | OH | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Darius Mosely | CB | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Jarrod Clements | DE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Reon Dawson | CB | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Christian DiLauro | TE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kenton Gibbs | DT | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Merrick Jackson | DT | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Dillan Cazley | CB | IL | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
| Joshua Jones | S | MI | 3 | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Kendrick Foster | RB | IL | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Dawuane Smoot | DE | OH | 3 | 2 | NR | NR |
| Jesse Chadwell | OL | MI | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Austin Schmidt | OL | OH | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Bryce Douglas | DT | IL | NR | NR | NR | NR |
No change for the Illini.
| #6 Iowa - 15 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| David Kenney | DE | IN | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Colin Goebel | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Delano Hill | S | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Brant Gressel | DT | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| John Kenny | LB | IN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Derrick Mitchell Jr. | S | MO | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Malik Rucker | S | MN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Solomon Warfield | S | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Sean Welsh | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Derrick Willies | WR | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Nathan Bazata | DT | NE | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Nic Shimonek | QB | TX | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Trevon Young | LB | IA | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
| Ike Boettger | TE | IA | NR | NR | NR | 2 |
| Andre Harris | ATH | MO | NR | NR | NR | NR |
No change for the Hawkeyes.
| #7 Nebraska - 12 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Marcus McWilson | S | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Josh Banderas | LB | NE | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Marcus Newby | LB | MD | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Tre'vell Dixon | ATH | LA | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Christian Lacouture | DE | TX | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| A.J. Natter | DE | WI | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Courtney Love | LB | OH | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Nathan Gerry | S | SD | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kevin Gladney | WR | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Greg Hart | TE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Dan Samuelson | OL | IN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Gabriel Miller | LS | IN | 2 | 2 | 2 | NR |
The Cornhuskers bolster a strong class of linebackers with the addition of Marcus Newby.
| #8 Wisconsin - 11 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Darius Latham | DT | IN | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Chikwe Obasih | DE | WI | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Rob Wheelwright | WR | OH | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Austin Ramesh | ATH | WI | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Garret Dooley | LB | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Jack Keeler | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Hayden Biegel | OL | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Matt Miller | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| T.J. Watt | ATH | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Sam Raridon | DT | IA | 3 | 3 | NR | 3 |
| Jazz Peavy | WR | WI | 3 | 2 | 2 | NR |
The Badgers pick up consensus four-star lineman Darius Latham, which allows them to leap Michigan State in the standings.
| #9 Michigan State - 10 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Jon Reschke | LB | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Shane Jones | LB | OH | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Damion Terry | QB | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Darian Hicks | CB | OH | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Jalyn Powell | S | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Gerald Holmes | RB | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| R.J. Shelton | RB | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Trey Kilgore | WR | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Jay Harris | WR | PA | 2 | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Dylan Chmura | TE | WI | NR | NR | 2 | NR |
No change for the Spartans.
| #10 Northwestern - 11 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Matt Alviti | QB | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Sam Coverdale | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Blake King | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Brad North | OL | TX | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kyle Queiro | ATH | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Eric Joraskie | DE | PA | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
| Warren Miles-Long | RB | CA | 3 | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Macan Wilson | WR | TX | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Tyler Lancaster | OL | IL | NR | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Xavier Menifield | RB | CA | 2 | 2 | NR | NR |
| Hunter Miswander | K | OH | NR | NR | NR | NR |
Xavier Menifield picks up two stars from Rivals.
| #11 Purdue - 6 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Danny Etling | QB | IN | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Randy Gregory | DE | AZ | 3 | 3 | 3 | JC |
| David Yancey | RB | IN | 3 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Jake Replogle | DE | OH | NR | 2 | 2 | NR |
| John Strauser | DE | IL | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
FL ATH Brisly Estime decommits from Purdue just one day after committing, saying the school wanted him to visit before coming to a decision. That has to be a contender for shortest commitment ever.
| #12 Minnesota - 4 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Keelon Brookins | CB | MN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Alex Mayes | OL | TX | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Owen Salzwedel | DE | WI | NR | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Chris Streveler | QB | IL | NR | 2 | 3 | 3 |
No change for the Gophers.
| #13 Indiana - 3 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Isaac Griffith | WR | IN | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Evan Jansen | TE | OH | 3 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Patrick Dougherty | DE | OH | NR | 2 | 2 | NR |
The Hoosiers are on a tear of sorts after grabbing two commits this week, giving them three total in the last month. Maybe next year they'll start recruiting in February instead of June.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | 
well I'm glad to see Indiana
well I'm glad to see Indiana
July 8th, 2012 at 1:50 PM |
Remember When...
Remember When...
Remember when Indiana had Gunner Kiel and it looked like they may make a bowl down the road?
Life just isn't fair I suppose.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
July 8th, 2012 at 7:07 PM |
At least
At least
he went to a team that is returning to glory, or whatever 6 wins is called.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:48 PM |
I might have to change my
I might have to change my
I might have to change my usual "poor Indiana" comment to "poor Sparty." Another drop in the rankings.
Interesting move by Purdue... I don't know details, but if it was simply a "don't use us as a placeholder" kind of decision, you have to respect that, especially given their current recruiting class.
July 8th, 2012 at 1:47 PM |
Indiana 2...Michigan 0!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!
Indiana 2...Michigan 0!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!
I can't take this anymore!!! WHAT ARE WE DOING!?!
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
July 8th, 2012 at 1:52 PM |
Avg Stars
Avg Stars
This is my first year really following recruiting, is it typical for the average rankings to drop over time from picking up lower star recruits? That seems to be the trend this year. Michigan and Ohio both used to be around 4, now they are lower.
It seems counterintuitive to me, wouldn't teams be pickier as time goes by and pick up higher ranked recruits? Can anyone help me understand this?
July 8th, 2012 at 2:24 PM |
With guys committing earlier
With guys committing earlier
With guys committing earlier and earlier, it's getting more competitive. The remaining selection isn't nearly as open as it is in the beginning.
Most of this is attributed to the different ways services look at players. UM will hold camps and get guys like Stribling because he fits the system, and the coaches see more of him than the services do. It's not that he's worse, he's just lower ranked due to late blooming/lack of exposure/what have you. Same with OSU and Lee.
But to answer directly, yeah, fairly common.
July 8th, 2012 at 2:38 PM |
FL ATH Brisly Estime
FL ATH Brisly Estime
FL ATH Brisly Estime decommits from Purdue just one day after committing, saying the school wanted him to visit before coming to a decision.
Actually from what I've read Hope wasn't the one to say that but rather Estime's HS coach who was also hyping Estime's Georgia camp visit coming next month. Even more so when you realize Estime only said 'coach' on Twitter and never referred to which one. That being said it's likely Purdue could cut ties with Estime as he might have been using Purdue (it was his current best offer) to gain interest elsewhere. Considering Estime was still keeping his recruitment open, was likely to go to any SEC school (or Miami) if they offered and was still hitting the recruiting trails anyways.
Also, Estime is 19 and will only be able to play in his schools first three games this year before he'll hit the max age limit and be kept off the field. Or in other words his recruiting trail is likely to go ice cold come September and his Twitter isn't exactly making him seem like an appealing guy to go for. He's considered a game changing punt returner at the high school level but he's too small to stick at safety at the college level
July 8th, 2012 at 3:25 PM |
Will they ever learn!?!
Will they ever learn!?!
"his Twitter isn't exactly making him seem like an appealing guy to go for."
Another star athlete getting tripped up by his own Twitter ineptitude. For shame!
July 8th, 2012 at 2:38 PM |
FL ATH Brisly Estime
FL ATH Brisly Estime
FL ATH Brisly Estime decommits from Purdue just one day after committing, saying the school wanted him to visit before coming to a decision.
Actually from what I've read Hope wasn't the one to say that but rather Estime's HS coach who was also hyping Estime's Georgia camp visit coming next month. Even more so when you realize Estime only said 'coach' on Twitter and never referred to which one. That being said it's likely Purdue could cut ties with Estime as he might have been using Purdue (it was his current best offer) to gain interest elsewhere. Considering Estime was still keeping his recruitment open, was likely to go to any SEC school (or Miami) if they offered and was still hitting the recruiting trails anyways.
Also, Estime is 19 and will only be able to play in his schools first three games this year before he'll hit the max age limit and be kept off the field. Or in other words his recruiting trail is likely to go ice cold come September and his Twitter isn't exactly making him seem like an appealing guy to go for. He's considered a game changing punt returner at the high school level but he's too small to stick at safety at the college level
July 8th, 2012 at 4:27 PM |
Two surprises: ND and MSU
Two surprises: ND and MSU
ND is doing really well. In fact, it is very close to our class, which surprises me -- who want to play for a nut case such BK? I was sure MSU would be doing a lot better. Were they too confident after two good seasons and did not work hard? They could be drinking their own cool aid that they can find diamonds in the rough and develop them.
July 8th, 2012 at 5:24 PM |
Michigan State.
Michigan State.
MSU is done.
They'll never admit it, but it is a FACT that they benefited from the Rich Rod era. Dantonio was the more liked coach in the state, he recruited the state harder...and whether it was true or not HS coaches felt Rich Rod prefered Florida and out of state kids over in-state kids.
Also, the Rich Rod era didn't require the type of players that Michigan typically produces (or what they're known for may be a better way to put it). The big OLmen, the big WRs, etc. Rich Rod was looking for a moble QB and smaller backs and WRs. He was looking for speed vs. size. (note: this isn't saying Michigan doesn't produce this, but it's definitely a "stigma" or "stereotype" that your speed from the south or west coast).
To add to these things, Rich Rod demanded we run a 3-3-5. This is seen by many as a "gimmicky" defense. Even though NFL teams run multiple sets like you wouldn't believe...it it widely believed that if you want to be an NFL calibur player, you need to play in a traditional 4-3 or 3-4. Spurs and Bandits have no place and guys wanting to go to the NFL sometimes look elsewhere simply based off scheme.
To add to that, Rich Rod was an offensive coach...you have to play defense in the B1G.
Then on top of all of this, Michigan wasn't winning in the Rich Rod era. So that obviously didn't help.
So add all of that together, and then...put the Ohio/Tressel scandal as your red cherry on top and it's easy to see how MSU got to be good and did well in recruiting.
With all that said, it's over. DONE. Michigan is back to winning and dominating the state in recruiting and Brady Hoke will not give an INCH. Then you have Urban Meyer down south who comes in with 2 NC rings, buzz, and a lot of hype.
MSU will have some years where they're #3, as will PSU, Nebraska and Wisky....but when you look back 15 years from now, it'll be clear that it's Michigan, Ohio and everyone else.
Dantonio won't admit it, and it'll likely be a slow decline...but they'll be back to their 8-4 ways soon enough. Little brother is little brother again.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
July 8th, 2012 at 6:50 PM |
Anything else you would like
Anything else you would like
Anything else you would like to add to that?
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
July 8th, 2012 at 10:41 PM |
That was pretty long, huh?
That was pretty long, huh?
Michigan State sucks.
...that better?
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
July 9th, 2012 at 8:29 AM |
IMO
IMO
As long as Dantonio is there, MSU won't be "done". They are going to be a thorn in our side for awhile. Actually, while their numbers aren't anywhere near ours, they have gotten some decent players. I just don't see them going away anytime soon like some envision on here.
Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!
July 9th, 2012 at 4:33 PM |
They got players "back then" too...
They got players "back then" too...
Charles Rogers was no slouch at MSU, and he was highly recruited...however, a few players here and there isn't going to do much on a 10-15 year basis against Michigan or Ohio. They'll very rarely be beating out Michigan and Ohio for kids. Most of their top prospects from now on will be pipeline schools or kids we can't take because we're full at a position.
It's not cocky, it's just the truth. Until Rich Rod, we DOMINATED the state in recruiting and DOMINATED the region along with Ohio. I don't know Michigan and Ohio's combined record vs. MSU from 1987-2007, but I'm willing to bet both teams had very good success vs. Sparty.
So State will get players, they always have. However, as Michigan and Ohio continue to get better, it'll be harder and harder for Dantonio. State could very easily go 0-4 vs. the Big 2 in the next two years. If that happens...it's over. They're back to where they were, back to where "little brother" came from.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
July 8th, 2012 at 8:43 PM |
Add Alex Anzalone to ND...
Add Alex Anzalone to ND...
Add Alex Anzalone to ND... Weeee.
July 9th, 2012 at 7:41 AM |
Just curious, why is ND on a list of B1G recruitng rankings?
Just curious, why is ND on a list of B1G recruitng rankings?
July 9th, 2012 at 8:12 AM |
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
We play Notre Dame more often than a chunk of the teams in the Big Ten. We'll play these recruits more often than some other Big Ten recruits. We compete with Notre Dame for more recruits than we do with many Big Ten teams. The 2 year break with Notre Dame is in 2018, after this class graduates.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:56 PM |
the lack of rankings
the lack of rankings
this week is dissappointing only because I wanted to see the average average with Shane's fresh 5th star.
well I'm glad to see Indiana decided to field a team next year.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler