Let's make it 25 by the end of the weekend!
frank beamer #1
Michigan adds a commitment this week, so the recruiting rankings are front-paged. Also, Penn State begins their post-sanction slip down the board and there's a new team at the bottom of the list. Changes since the last rankings:
7-23-12: Ross Douglas decommits from Penn State.
7-24-12: Michigan picks up Ross Douglas. Michigan State picks up Devyn Salmon.
7-25-12: Keelon Brookins decommits from Minnesota. Wisconsin picks up Keelon Brookins.
7-26-12: Indiana picks up Demetrius Hill.
7-28-12: Notre Dame picks up Jamel James. Ohio State picks up Tim Gardner. Purdue picks up Keyante Green.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|Rank||School||# Commits||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||24/7 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^|
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
|#1 Michigan - 23 Commits|
|Maurice Hurst Jr.||DT||MA||3||4||4||3|
The Wolverines add OH CB Ross Douglas one day after his decommitment from Penn State. Douglas is the 19th Michigan commit to earn four stars or higher on at least two of the four recruiting services.
|#2 Notre Dame - 18 Commits|
The Irish pick up TX RB Jamel James.
|#3 Ohio State - 15 Commits|
The Buckeyes get a commitment from IN OL Tim Gardner.
|#4 Iowa - 16 Commits|
|Derrick Mitchell Jr.||S||MO||3||3||3||3|
Trevon Young gets four stars and Ike Boettger three from 247. Thanks to attrition at Penn State, the Hawkeyes—as well as the Illini—pass the Nittany Lions.
|#5 Illinois - 15 Commits|
No change for the Illini.
|#6 Penn State - 12 Commits|
Ross Douglas is the second PSU decommit in the wake of the NCAA sanctions. As a result, the Nittany Lions slide two spots in the rankings and hold a very slight edge over Northwestern.
|#7 Northwestern - 15 Commits|
|Anthony Walker Jr.||LB||FL||3||3||3||3|
Warren Miles-Long, Jayme Taylor, and Brett Walsh each pick up three stars from ESPN.
|#8 Nebraska - 12 Commits|
No change for the Cornhuskers.
|#9 Wisconsin - 12 Commits|
The Badgers poach MN CB Keelon Brookins from Minnesota, which just seems kinda cruel.
|#10 Michigan State - 11 Commits|
The Spartans pick up FL DT Devyn Salmon.
|#11 Purdue - 9 Commits|
The Boilermakers add three GA RB Keyante Green. David Yancey picks up three stars from ESPN.
|#12 Indiana - 5 Commits|
The Hoosiers pick up JuCo DT Demetrius Hill and pass Minnesota in the rankings.
|#13 Minnesota - 5 Commits|
In-state corner Keelon Brookins decommits and flips to Wisconsin. Commence GopherQuest, Recruiting Edition?
Let's make it 25 by the end of the weekend!
You left off one of Penn State's recruits. Brennan Franklin is an NR LB from Arizona who committed right after the sanctions were announced. He also had interest, but no offers from powerhouses like Toledo, Washington, and Colorado.
I think he counts towards their 2012 class.
Was it a good idea to do all this work before today is over?
I'm just saying.
Apparently it was.
I would argue that Penn State has Northwestern beaten by a large margin. Despite the 3 less recruits their star average is 0.74 above northwestern.
Assuming I did the math right, if we pick up Green and Treadwell, we'll get to 3.75 average star rating. Not too shabby.
i know about the sittuation with green, but how close are we to landing treadwell? has he had any meetings with hoke?
Urban doing workon the OL front!
So whose recruits is he trying to poach now?
Hoke's winning the Ohio recruiting battle big time. Not too long ago it wasn't even a battle, now we're winning Michigan, and Ohio, and doing really well in Illinois, too.
Six of PSU's 12 commits reaffirmed their commitments to the school: Breneman, Hackenberg, Sickels, Mahon, Fuller, and Nelson. The others are anyone's guess. I don't think anyone would be surprised if most of the remaining six bail on PSU.
I aoppreciate all your work, but the numbers are not accurate. Rivals has OSU listed with a 3.83 avg star rating. Your numbers show 3.69. I realize you need to make Michigan's Avg/avg come out on top to justify your work, but I am calling bullshit on you.
If you add up the rating for all the recruits counting the NR guy as 2 stars then divide by 16 you get 3.69. Fairly simple stuff.
It's obviously not the way the recruiting sites do it, but hey if it works for you, have at it.
I went back and checked the rivals site again. They have the same rating for Michigan as Ace. 3.57, is that a coincidense? I stick to my original statement. Bullshit, its fairly simple stuff. If you are going to copy a recruiting service, then do it accurately, its fairly simple stuff.
I hope the IRS doesn't check your tax return.
Regardless if you disagree with the inputs, Ace still applies the numbers and the math universally across every team. But you can keep on being a dick calling BS on him if you want...it'll certainly ingratiate you to the blog.
Michigan's numbers match because they don't have any unranked recruits. OSU's don't because they do. Rivals doesn't count unranked recruits at all in their averages. If you think that's more accurate, fine. You'd be wrong, but that's fine. Anyhow, Ace explains how he calculates the averages and he did it the same way when Michigan had unranked recruits.
Rivals rankings methodology—helpfully linked directly from the team rankings page—is not the same as my methodology, which counts all commits and does not add extra weight to Rivals250 recruits.
Have a wonderful day.
how upset he would be if you were still counting unranked recruits as 1-stars!!
Btw --- Is it even worth noting the spelling errors?
You could save yourself a lot of time and inaccuracy by just copying 247's composite ratings. They give equal weight to all the recruiting services you list. Why would you list a recruiting site, then not use their rating? If you want to use your own rating system then just label it Ace's rating, it's fairly simple.
Ace, if this is the same bucndc who recently appeared on our boards at 11w, please pay him no regard, as he is nothing but a troll, and a poor one at that.
He's already made his presence distastefully known on the OSU site by attempting to troll some of the board's more respected members, and if he is indeed a buckeye fan, I apologize on behalf of the fanbase.
I'm going to call bullshit on you. Either you're trolling or you're a huge idiot. Ace explains how he gets his numbers in the post, fergodsake! It IS simple math.
Don't get angry little man. I was simply asking why you would indicate a site's rating on your spreadsheet, then not use the rating. Is that clear enough for you?
Who the fuck cares...go away
go the fuck away.
...I'm not angry, I'm in disbelief.
Also I'm not little either, I may not be huge but 6'2" 240lbs is not little.
I hope someone checks your writing, whatever you do.
He says its "simple stuff" but apparently much more so than spelling happens to be.
Could limited scholarships be a selling point for PSU? The road to playing time will not be a long one. Limited scholarships haven't hurt Ohio State or USC.
Can't say the same about OSU, but I think USC makes a lot of unrealistic promises to recruits with regards to playing time and expectations. Many guys who would be starters at many other universities are being sold a load of BS and promises and get there, figuring they'd get a chance to play for a National Championship, but to find out too late that they get to watch an NC being won from the bench.
USC is selling playing time on one of the favorites to win it all. That appeals to elite recruits. Penn St. will be selling playing time on a mediocre team looking at a multi-year bowl ban. That's not likely to appeal to a similar level of talent.
Ace, you gonna add 247 Composite rankings as well starting next week?