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Big Ten Recruiting Rankings: 7-22-12
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The recruiting rankings return this week with Northwestern(!) making a big move up the board. Also, the fallout begins from the Freeh Report and the teams at the bottom begin to fill in their classes. Changes since the last rankings:
7-8-12: Notre Dame picks up Alex Anzalone. Minnesota picks up Chris Wipson.
7-9-12: Nebraska picks up Johnny Stanton.
7-12-12: Iowa picks up Jon Wisnieski. Northwestern picks up Matt Harris. Minnesota picks up Jordan Hinojosa. Indiana picks up Danny Friend.
7-13-12: Tre'vell Dixon decommits from Nebraska. Northwestern picks up Jayme Taylor.
7-17-12: Northwestern picks up Anthony Walker Jr. and Brett Walsh. Purdue picks up Parker Cothren and Myles Norwood.
7-19-12: Ohio State picks up Taivon Jacobs.
7-20-12: Purdue picks up Johnny Thompson.
7-21-12: Greg Webb decommits from Penn State.
Chart? Chart:
| Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rank | School | # Commits | Rivals Avg | Scout Avg | 24/7 Avg | ESPN Avg | Avg Avg^ |
| 1 | Michigan | 22 | 3.55 | 3.86 | 3.77 | 3.68 | 3.72 |
| 2 | Notre Dame | 17 | 3.59 | 3.88 | 3.76 | 3.82 | 3.76 |
| 3 | Ohio State | 15 | 3.73 | 3.73 | 3.67 | 3.80 | 3.73 |
| 4 | Penn State | 13 | 3.46 | 3.46 | 3.46 | 3.54 | 3.48 |
| 5 | Iowa | 15 | 2.88 | 2.75 | 2.88 | 2.94 | 2.86 |
| 6 | Illinois | 15 | 2.93 | 2.80 | 2.66 | 3.07 | 2.87 |
| 7 | Northwestern | 15 | 2.67 | 2.60 | 2.73 | 2.67 | 2.67 |
| 8 | Nebraska | 12 | 3.17 | 3.17 | 3.42 | 3.25 | 3.25 |
| 9 | Wisconsin | 11 | 3.18 | 3.09 | 3.09 | 3.09 | 3.11 |
| 10 | Michigan State | 10 | 3.00 | 3.10 | 3.10 | 3.30 | 3.13 |
| 11 | Purdue | 8 | 2.50 | 2.38 | 2.50 | 2.25 | 2.41 |
| 12 | Minnesota | 6 | 2.33 | 2.50 | 2.67 | 2.67 | 2.54 |
| 13 | Indiana | 4 | 2.75 | 2.25 | 2.75 | 2.50 | 2.58 |
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
| #1 Michigan - 22 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Shane Morris | QB | MI | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 |
| Patrick Kugler | OL | PA | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Dymonte Thomas | S | OH | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Kyle Bosch | OL | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jake Butt | TE | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Taco Charlton | DE | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| David Dawson | OL | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Chris Fox | OL | CO | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ben Gedeon | LB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jourdan Lewis | CB | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike McCray | LB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Henry Poggi | DT | MD | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Logan Tuley-Tillman | OL | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Wyatt Shallman | ATH | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Gareon Conley | CB | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| DeVeon Smith | RB | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Maurice Hurst Jr. | DT | MA | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Jaron Dukes | WR | OH | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Khalid Hill | TE | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Csont'e York | WR | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Channing Stribling | CB | NC | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Scott Sypniewski | LS | IL | 2 | 2 | 2 | NR |
Shane Morris earns his fifth star from 247, Taco Charlton is upgraded to four stars on Scout, and Channing Stribling goes from unranked to three stars on ESPN. With Charlton's bump, Michigan now has 13 consensus four-stars (or better).
| #2 Notre Dame - 17 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Jaylon Smith | LB | IN | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 |
| Alex Anzalone | LB | PA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Hunter Bivin | OL | KY | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Steven Elmer | OL | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike Heuerman | TE | FL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Mike McGlinchey | OL | PA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Isaac Rochell | DE | GA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Malik Zaire | QB | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| John Montelus | OL | MA | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Colin McGovern | OL | IL | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jacob Matuska | DE | OH | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| James Onwualu | WR | MN | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Danny Mattingly | TE | WA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Corey Robinson | WR | TX | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Rashad Kinlaw | ATH | NJ | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Devin Butler | CB | DC | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Michael Deeb | LB | FL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
The Irish land former Ohio State commit Alex Anzalone. Devin Butler moves up to four stars on 247.
| #3 Ohio State - 15 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Cameron Burrows | CB | OH | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jalin Marshall | ATH | OH | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Joey Bosa | DE | FL | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Eli Woodard | CB | NJ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 |
| J.T. Barrett | QB | TX | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Marcus Baugh | TE | CA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Michael Hill | DT | SC | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Evan Lisle | OL | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Billy Price | DT | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ezekiel Elliott | RB | MO | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Jayme Thompson | S | OH | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Darron Lee | ATH | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Tracy Sprinkle | DE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Taivon Jacobs | WR | MD | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
| Johnny Townsend | P | FL | NR | 3 | 2 | NR |
The Buckeyes get a commitment from MD WR Taivon Jacobs. Jalin Marshall is downgraded from five to four stars on 247, Johnny Townsend gets three stars on Scout, and Darron Lee picks up three stars from ESPN.
| #4 Penn State - 13 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Adam Breneman | TE | PA | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Dorian Johnson | OL | PA | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 |
| Christian Hackenberg | QB | VA | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Garrett Sickels | DE | NJ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Ross Douglas | CB | OH | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Brendan Mahon | OL | NJ | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| William Fuller | WR | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Zayd Issah | LB | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Andrew Nelson | OL | PA | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Brandon Bell | LB | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Zach Bradshaw | WR | MD | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Curtis Cothran | DE | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Neiko Robinson | S | FL | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
Four-star NJ DT Greg Webb is the first Penn State decommit in the wake of the Freeh Report, changing his commitment to North Carolina yesterday.
| #5 Iowa - 16 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| David Kenney | DE | IN | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Delano Hill | S | MI | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Jon Wisnieski | TE | IA | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Colin Goebel | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Brant Gressel | DT | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| John Kenny | LB | IN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Derrick Mitchell Jr. | S | MO | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Malik Rucker | S | MN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Solomon Warfield | S | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Sean Welsh | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Derrick Willies | WR | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Nathan Bazata | DT | NE | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Nic Shimonek | QB | TX | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Trevon Young | LB | IA | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
| Ike Boettger | TE | IA | NR | 2 | NR | 2 |
| Andre Harris | ATH | MO | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
The Hawkeyes add in-state TE Jon Wiskieski. Delano Hill is bumped to four stars on 247; Ike Boettger and Andre Harris each get two-star ratings from Scout. Iowa jumps Illinois in the standings and could easily pass Penn State if the Nittany Lions suffer any more attrition, which appears likely—if not inevitable—at this point.
| #6 Illinois - 15 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Aaron Bailey | QB | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Caleb Day | CB | OH | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Darius Mosely | CB | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Jarrod Clements | DE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Reon Dawson | CB | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Christian DiLauro | TE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kenton Gibbs | DT | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Merrick Jackson | DT | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Dillan Cazley | CB | IL | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
| Joshua Jones | S | MI | 3 | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Kendrick Foster | RB | IL | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Dawuane Smoot | DE | OH | 3 | 2 | NR | 3 |
| Jesse Chadwell | OL | MI | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Austin Schmidt | OL | OH | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Bryce Douglas | DT | IL | NR | 2 | NR | 3 |
Bryce Douglas gets two stars from Scout and three from ESPN; Dawuane Smoot also gets three stars from ESPN.
| #7 Northwestern - 15 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Matt Alviti | QB | IL | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Sam Coverdale | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Blake King | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Brad North | OL | TX | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kyle Queiro | ATH | NJ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Anthony Walker Jr. | LB | FL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Eric Joraskie | DE | PA | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
| Warren Miles-Long | RB | CA | 3 | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Macan Wilson | WR | TX | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Jayme Taylor | TE | TX | 2 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Xavier Menifield | RB | CA | 2 | 2 | NR | 3 |
| Matt Harris | WR | IL | NR | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Tyler Lancaster | OL | IL | NR | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Brett Walsh | LB | CA | NR | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Hunter Miswander | K | OH | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
The Wildcats haul in four commits over the last couple of weeks: FL LB Anthony Walker Jr., TX TE Jayme Taylor, IL WR Matt Harris, and CA LB Brett Walsh. Xavier Menefield picks up three stars from ESPN and Hunter Niswander gets two stars from Scout. Northwestern leaps all the way up from 10th to 7th in the rankings, though that's unlikely to hold as the teams below fill out their classes.
| #8 Nebraska - 12 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Marcus McWilson | S | OH | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| Josh Banderas | LB | NE | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Marcus Newby | LB | MD | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Christian Lacouture | DE | TX | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
| A.J. Natter | DE | WI | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Courtney Love | LB | OH | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Johnny Stanton | QB | CA | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
| Nathan Gerry | S | SD | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Kevin Gladney | WR | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Greg Hart | TE | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Dan Samuelson | OL | IN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Gabriel Miller | LS | IN | 2 | 2 | 2 | NR |
The Cornhuskers pick up CA QB Johnny Stanton but lose LA ATH Tre'vell Dixon.
| #9 Wisconsin - 11 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Darius Latham | DT | IN | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Chikwe Obasih | DE | WI | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Rob Wheelwright | WR | OH | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 |
| Austin Ramesh | ATH | WI | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Garret Dooley | LB | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Jack Keeler | OL | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Hayden Biegel | OL | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Matt Miller | OL | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| T.J. Watt | ATH | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Sam Raridon | DT | IA | 3 | 3 | NR | 3 |
| Jazz Peavy | WR | WI | 3 | 2 | 2 | NR |
No change for the Badgers.
| #10 Michigan State - 10 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Jon Reschke | LB | MI | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Shane Jones | LB | OH | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Damion Terry | QB | PA | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 |
| Darian Hicks | CB | OH | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Jalyn Powell | S | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |
| Gerald Holmes | RB | MI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| R.J. Shelton | RB | WI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Trey Kilgore | WR | OH | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Jay Harris | WR | PA | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Dylan Chmura | TE | WI | NR | 2 | 2 | NR |
Trey Kilgore and Jay Harris get three stars each on ESPN; Dylan Chmura picks up two stars on Scout.
| #11 Purdue - 8 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Danny Etling | QB | IN | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Randy Gregory | DE | AZ | 3 | 3 | 3 | JC |
| David Yancey | RB | IN | 3 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Myles Norwood | WR | TX | 2 | NR | 3 | NR |
| Johnny Thompson | DE | GA | NR | 3 | NR | NR |
| Jake Replogle | DE | OH | NR | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Parker Cothren | DE | AL | NR | 2 | 2 | NR |
| John Strauser | DE | IL | NR | 2 | NR | NR |
The Boilermakers add three commits: TX WR Myles Norwood, GA DE Johnny Thompson, and AL DE Parker Cothren. Jake Replogle is upgraded to three stars on ESPN.
| #12 Minnesota - 6 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Keelon Brookins | CB | MN | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Alex Mayes | OL | TX | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Owen Salzwedel | DE | WI | NR | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Chris Wipson | LB | MN | 2 | 2 | NR | NR |
| Chris Streveler | QB | IL | NR | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Jordan Hinojosa | DT | KS | NR | 2 | NR | JC |
The Gophers add in-state LB Chris Wipson and JuCo DT Jordan Hinojosa, who reclassified from their 2012 class. Owen Salzwedel gets three stars from ESPN.
| #13 Indiana - 4 Commits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | State | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN |
| Danny Friend | TE | IL | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| Isaac Griffith | WR | IN | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Evan Jansen | TE | OH | 3 | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Patrick Dougherty | DE | OH | NR | 2 | 2 | 2 |
The Hoosiers pick up IL TE Danny Friend.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 PM | 
Penn State Class
Penn State Class
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:29 PM |
I would put ND in that same
I would put ND in that same
I would put ND in that same category once Grimus gets canned.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 AM |
Indiana
Indiana
IU is about to pdominate PSU
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:58 PM |
I'm not too into recruiting,
I'm not too into recruiting,
I'm not too into recruiting, so what's the deal with Wisconsin? It's a little strange to see them that low. They have (at least recently) put a pretty good product on the field. How do they usually end up in the recruiting rankings?
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:01 PM |
They never really "kill it" in the rankings...
They never really "kill it" in the rankings...
but they're known for succeeding with under-the-radar guys
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1049399-2012-wisconsin-badgers-why-re...
I LOVE MICHIGAN
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:58 PM |
Hackenberg is still in a wait-and-see position
Hackenberg is still in a wait-and-see position
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:12 PM |
Purdue needs more DEs.
Purdue needs more DEs.
Purdue needs more DEs.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 PM |
If
If
the Penn State sanctions are as bad as rumored, how many kids do you see them losing as a direct result of them? I figure they lose Hackenburg for sure, but i also have a feeling they lose Breneman also. I think these two recruits have to much riding on this decision to decide to play somewhere that could possibly be down for the greater part of the next century if the sanctions are what's rumored. If I was one of their parents I feel as I would decide this for them.
July 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 PM |
With our class as big as it
With our class as big as it
With our class as big as it is already, and so many question marks on our d-line depth I think its likely the coaches would keep the door open for TE Breneman who they did offer, or for Michigan natives Jr WDE CJ Olaniyan and Soph SDE Anthony Zettle.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 AM |
i dont see them losing
i dont see them losing
i dont see them losing breneman. based on some of his comments when webb decommitted, he's very much their shane morris..a leader trying to keep the class together.
July 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 PM |
It's good to see that the
It's good to see that the
It's good to see that the Hoosiers haven't given up.
July 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 PM |
Taivon Jacobs
Taivon Jacobs
What's up with those Taivon Jacobs ratings? I don't think I've ever seen a guy ranked as a 2-star at one place and a 4-star at another. Anyone have any infor on him that could explain that gap? (or is it more common than I think it is?)
July 22nd, 2012 at 7:32 PM |
Watch Purdue beat out
Watch Purdue beat out
Watch Purdue beat out Michigan State for 10th place on signing day.
Special Teams means special times!
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 PM |
Take a look at MSU's average
Take a look at MSU's average
Take a look at MSU's average - they'll be middle of the pack once they catch up in number of commits.
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 PM |
Notre Dame
Notre Dame
Notre Dame's recruiting success (on paper) is both a blessing and a curse. A blessing if Kelly can do something with it; a curse if he can't.
Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 PM |
Really solid class for ND
Really solid class for ND
I agree, a shame if it gets squandered.
A repeat national championship in 2017…what better way to celebrate the bicentennial?
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 PM |
Kelly is on something of a
Kelly is on something of a
Kelly is on something of a hot seat. Not immediate, but the flame has been turned up a bit. Nothing is going to happen to him this year (unless he really tanks, which I don't think he will). But with these kinds of incoming classes he has to do well or ... or one must think he's not up to the task of being a Notre Dame coach and turning quality recruits into winners.
Simply reality. He knows it. The administration at ND knows it.
Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 PM |
Their play is all over the
Their play is all over the
Their play is all over the map, and they have at least 7 "loseable" games this year playing against the likes of USC, Oklahoma, Michigan, Stanford, Miami, State, and Purdue. With recent Kelly losses against teams like Navy, Tulsa, and others I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the season without a bowl game...
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 PM |
I will be pissed if OSU takes
I will be pissed if OSU takes
I will be pissed if OSU takes advantage of PSU's misfortunates for a second consecutive to beef up their class.
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 PM |
Prepare to be pissed.
Prepare to be pissed.
Prepare to be pissed.
Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 AM |
I disagree here. I think with
I disagree here. I think with
I disagree here. I think with the fact that there is not much room in the class, there are only a few players the staff would take. Probably limited to Johnson and Brenemen. Brenemen will likely stick, while Johnson has cited money problems keeping him close to home. Many think he will go to Pitt or WVU, but he did mention another OSU visit
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 PM |
Surprised to see so few FL
Surprised to see so few FL
Surprised to see so few FL commits to Ohio. I would've though Urban would be tapping up some of his old Florida pipelines. Pahokee certainly has no issue sending its sons up north.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 PM |
Maybe it wasn't urban who was
Maybe it wasn't urban who was
Maybe it wasn't urban who was killin it down in florida.....I'm starting to guess mattison, strong, mullen had a lot to do with the great recruiting down in florida for Urban.
Not saying he is a bad recruiter or anything, but when you have those 3 guys on the same staff it shouldn't be to difficult to dominate the state of florida.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 PM |
Pulling quality recruits from
Pulling quality recruits from
Pulling quality recruits from Florida is like pulling Jupiter's moons away from ... Jupiter.
Florida and Florida State are the local gravity centers. Miami to a degree, but they seem to have residual problems. Alabama is alike a temptress beckoning, as are many of the SEC teams.
Ohio might as well be on the moon. Ditto Michigan and ditto Arizona (for the coach-that-shall-not-be-named). Yeah, they'll get a recruit here or there, but they simply will not pull the cream to the northern climes.
Hoke is absolutely correct in focusing on Michigan and Ohio first, then branching out from there. I'm sure Meyer realizes the same.
Let the battle begin.
Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:38 PM |
My 2 cents
My 2 cents
I'm 100% UM blue, but I'd like to make 3 comments about the chart.
1, I don't like ND included in the ranking. I understand the regional interest, so put them after/under the 12 B1G teams. not ranked 13, just "I" for independant or Interest or Information, whatever.
2, I don't believe that the top criteria should be quantity. Either total points or average rating would be better, IMHO.
3, I wouldn't include Punters, Kickers, and LSs, as their actual value far exceeds their star rating.
Great information! I couldn't/wouldn't do all that work. But I can criticize! LOL!
Thanks! Go Blue!
"We all live under the same sun." Scorpions
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 PM |
(No Subject)
(No Subject)
1. When this class of recruits is in school, we will play Notre Dame more times than Wisconsin and a handful of other teams in the Big Ten. We recruit against Notre Dame more often than Northwestern, Indiana, and Illinois. Notre Dame's inclusion is appropriate.
2. Quantity is not the top criteria. It's a combination. If you take quantity * avg you can figure out approximately how the classes are ranked.
3. This isn't a bad point, but if every team needs to take a P, K, LS at some point, it all evens out.
Side Note - Ending comments wtih "Go Blue!" is cheesy as shit.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 PM |
Oops, not allowed to criticize.
Oops, not allowed to criticize.
How was my post trolling? Did I not make valid points, or attack anyone? I understand your sig phrase. (I twice)
On the chart, only ND is not B1G. The only way UM is #1 is quantity. If criteria for #1 is a combination, it would be more clear to state that.
If I said Go Badgers, would that be more cheezy?
Go Blue!
"We all live under the same sun." Scorpions
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 PM |
I don't think your post was
I don't think your post was
I don't think your post was "trolling," and I see you've since been upvoted to 1 point.
But having ND in that mix makes some sense ... they are geographically in the heart of the Big 10. They are often considered part of the "midwestern football ethos." They compete for many of the same recruits. So yeah, having them part of the Big 10 recruiting discussion makes some sense.
Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 PM |
Wow…
Wow…
All those 4s makes me a little dizzy. The consensus regarding the quality of Michigans class and the shear number of recruits is pretty amazing. And we could add another couple of stud recruits to boot. Of course I want the lowest ranked recruits to turn out to be gems as well and hope Hoke's assessment is spot on for them ALL.
A repeat national championship in 2017…what better way to celebrate the bicentennial?
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:53 AM |
Hackenberg
Hackenberg
Hackenberg may have also decommitted.
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
Subject to change.