Subject to change.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
The recruiting rankings return this week with Northwestern(!) making a big move up the board. Also, the fallout begins from the Freeh Report and the teams at the bottom begin to fill in their classes. Changes since the last rankings:
7-8-12: Notre Dame picks up Alex Anzalone. Minnesota picks up Chris Wipson.
7-9-12: Nebraska picks up Johnny Stanton.
7-12-12: Iowa picks up Jon Wisnieski. Northwestern picks up Matt Harris. Minnesota picks up Jordan Hinojosa. Indiana picks up Danny Friend.
7-13-12: Tre'vell Dixon decommits from Nebraska. Northwestern picks up Jayme Taylor.
7-17-12: Northwestern picks up Anthony Walker Jr. and Brett Walsh. Purdue picks up Parker Cothren and Myles Norwood.
7-19-12: Ohio State picks up Taivon Jacobs.
7-20-12: Purdue picks up Johnny Thompson.
7-21-12: Greg Webb decommits from Penn State.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|Rank||School||# Commits||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||24/7 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^|
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
|#1 Michigan - 22 Commits|
|Maurice Hurst Jr.||DT||MA||3||4||4||3|
Shane Morris earns his fifth star from 247, Taco Charlton is upgraded to four stars on Scout, and Channing Stribling goes from unranked to three stars on ESPN. With Charlton's bump, Michigan now has 13 consensus four-stars (or better).
|#2 Notre Dame - 17 Commits|
The Irish land former Ohio State commit Alex Anzalone. Devin Butler moves up to four stars on 247.
|#3 Ohio State - 15 Commits|
The Buckeyes get a commitment from MD WR Taivon Jacobs. Jalin Marshall is downgraded from five to four stars on 247, Johnny Townsend gets three stars on Scout, and Darron Lee picks up three stars from ESPN.
|#4 Penn State - 13 Commits|
Four-star NJ DT Greg Webb is the first Penn State decommit in the wake of the Freeh Report, changing his commitment to North Carolina yesterday.
|#5 Iowa - 16 Commits|
|Derrick Mitchell Jr.||S||MO||3||3||3||3|
The Hawkeyes add in-state TE Jon Wiskieski. Delano Hill is bumped to four stars on 247; Ike Boettger and Andre Harris each get two-star ratings from Scout. Iowa jumps Illinois in the standings and could easily pass Penn State if the Nittany Lions suffer any more attrition, which appears likely—if not inevitable—at this point.
|#6 Illinois - 15 Commits|
Bryce Douglas gets two stars from Scout and three from ESPN; Dawuane Smoot also gets three stars from ESPN.
|#7 Northwestern - 15 Commits|
|Anthony Walker Jr.||LB||FL||3||3||3||3|
The Wildcats haul in four commits over the last couple of weeks: FL LB Anthony Walker Jr., TX TE Jayme Taylor, IL WR Matt Harris, and CA LB Brett Walsh. Xavier Menefield picks up three stars from ESPN and Hunter Niswander gets two stars from Scout. Northwestern leaps all the way up from 10th to 7th in the rankings, though that's unlikely to hold as the teams below fill out their classes.
|#8 Nebraska - 12 Commits|
The Cornhuskers pick up CA QB Johnny Stanton but lose LA ATH Tre'vell Dixon.
|#9 Wisconsin - 11 Commits|
No change for the Badgers.
|#10 Michigan State - 10 Commits|
Trey Kilgore and Jay Harris get three stars each on ESPN; Dylan Chmura picks up two stars on Scout.
|#11 Purdue - 8 Commits|
The Boilermakers add three commits: TX WR Myles Norwood, GA DE Johnny Thompson, and AL DE Parker Cothren. Jake Replogle is upgraded to three stars on ESPN.
|#12 Minnesota - 6 Commits|
The Gophers add in-state LB Chris Wipson and JuCo DT Jordan Hinojosa, who reclassified from their 2012 class. Owen Salzwedel gets three stars from ESPN.
|#13 Indiana - 4 Commits|
The Hoosiers pick up IL TE Danny Friend.
Subject to change.
I would put ND in that same category once Grimus gets canned.
IU is about to pdominate PSU
I'm not too into recruiting, so what's the deal with Wisconsin? It's a little strange to see them that low. They have (at least recently) put a pretty good product on the field. How do they usually end up in the recruiting rankings?
but they're known for succeeding with under-the-radar guys
Purdue needs more DEs.
the Penn State sanctions are as bad as rumored, how many kids do you see them losing as a direct result of them? I figure they lose Hackenburg for sure, but i also have a feeling they lose Breneman also. I think these two recruits have to much riding on this decision to decide to play somewhere that could possibly be down for the greater part of the next century if the sanctions are what's rumored. If I was one of their parents I feel as I would decide this for them.
With our class as big as it is already, and so many question marks on our d-line depth I think its likely the coaches would keep the door open for TE Breneman who they did offer, or for Michigan natives Jr WDE CJ Olaniyan and Soph SDE Anthony Zettle.
i dont see them losing breneman. based on some of his comments when webb decommitted, he's very much their shane morris..a leader trying to keep the class together.
It's good to see that the Hoosiers haven't given up.
What's up with those Taivon Jacobs ratings? I don't think I've ever seen a guy ranked as a 2-star at one place and a 4-star at another. Anyone have any infor on him that could explain that gap? (or is it more common than I think it is?)
Watch Purdue beat out Michigan State for 10th place on signing day.
Take a look at MSU's average - they'll be middle of the pack once they catch up in number of commits.
Notre Dame's recruiting success (on paper) is both a blessing and a curse. A blessing if Kelly can do something with it; a curse if he can't.
I agree, a shame if it gets squandered.
Kelly is on something of a hot seat. Not immediate, but the flame has been turned up a bit. Nothing is going to happen to him this year (unless he really tanks, which I don't think he will). But with these kinds of incoming classes he has to do well or ... or one must think he's not up to the task of being a Notre Dame coach and turning quality recruits into winners.
Simply reality. He knows it. The administration at ND knows it.
Their play is all over the map, and they have at least 7 "loseable" games this year playing against the likes of USC, Oklahoma, Michigan, Stanford, Miami, State, and Purdue. With recent Kelly losses against teams like Navy, Tulsa, and others I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the season without a bowl game...
I will be pissed if OSU takes advantage of PSU's misfortunates for a second consecutive to beef up their class.
Prepare to be pissed.
I disagree here. I think with the fact that there is not much room in the class, there are only a few players the staff would take. Probably limited to Johnson and Brenemen. Brenemen will likely stick, while Johnson has cited money problems keeping him close to home. Many think he will go to Pitt or WVU, but he did mention another OSU visit
Surprised to see so few FL commits to Ohio. I would've though Urban would be tapping up some of his old Florida pipelines. Pahokee certainly has no issue sending its sons up north.
Maybe it wasn't urban who was killin it down in florida.....I'm starting to guess mattison, strong, mullen had a lot to do with the great recruiting down in florida for Urban.
Not saying he is a bad recruiter or anything, but when you have those 3 guys on the same staff it shouldn't be to difficult to dominate the state of florida.
Pulling quality recruits from Florida is like pulling Jupiter's moons away from ... Jupiter.
Florida and Florida State are the local gravity centers. Miami to a degree, but they seem to have residual problems. Alabama is alike a temptress beckoning, as are many of the SEC teams.
Ohio might as well be on the moon. Ditto Michigan and ditto Arizona (for the coach-that-shall-not-be-named). Yeah, they'll get a recruit here or there, but they simply will not pull the cream to the northern climes.
Hoke is absolutely correct in focusing on Michigan and Ohio first, then branching out from there. I'm sure Meyer realizes the same.
Let the battle begin.
I'm 100% UM blue, but I'd like to make 3 comments about the chart.
1, I don't like ND included in the ranking. I understand the regional interest, so put them after/under the 12 B1G teams. not ranked 13, just "I" for independant or Interest or Information, whatever.
2, I don't believe that the top criteria should be quantity. Either total points or average rating would be better, IMHO.
3, I wouldn't include Punters, Kickers, and LSs, as their actual value far exceeds their star rating.
Great information! I couldn't/wouldn't do all that work. But I can criticize! LOL!
Thanks! Go Blue!
1. When this class of recruits is in school, we will play Notre Dame more times than Wisconsin and a handful of other teams in the Big Ten. We recruit against Notre Dame more often than Northwestern, Indiana, and Illinois. Notre Dame's inclusion is appropriate.
2. Quantity is not the top criteria. It's a combination. If you take quantity * avg you can figure out approximately how the classes are ranked.
3. This isn't a bad point, but if every team needs to take a P, K, LS at some point, it all evens out.
Side Note - Ending comments wtih "Go Blue!" is cheesy as shit.
How was my post trolling? Did I not make valid points, or attack anyone? I understand your sig phrase. (I twice)
On the chart, only ND is not B1G. The only way UM is #1 is quantity. If criteria for #1 is a combination, it would be more clear to state that.
If I said Go Badgers, would that be more cheezy?
I don't think your post was "trolling," and I see you've since been upvoted to 1 point.
But having ND in that mix makes some sense ... they are geographically in the heart of the Big 10. They are often considered part of the "midwestern football ethos." They compete for many of the same recruits. So yeah, having them part of the Big 10 recruiting discussion makes some sense.
All those 4s makes me a little dizzy. The consensus regarding the quality of Michigans class and the shear number of recruits is pretty amazing. And we could add another couple of stud recruits to boot. Of course I want the lowest ranked recruits to turn out to be gems as well and hope Hoke's assessment is spot on for them ALL.
Hackenberg may have also decommitted.