Almost makes you wish you could play Indiana every year right before the biggest game on your schedule.
Big Ten Recruiting Rankings: 5-21-12
The offseason is really starting to drag and recruiting is relatively calm after a frenetic start. At times like this, I have only one question: Has Indiana picked up a 2013 commit yet?
No, no they haven't.
Changes since the last rankings:
5-16-12: Nebraska picks up Greg Hart.
5-17-12: Iowa picks up Nic Shimonek.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|Rank||School||# Commits||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||24/7 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^|
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
|#1 Michigan - 18 Commits|
No change for the Wolverines.
|#2 Ohio State - 11 Commits|
No change for the Buckeyes.
|#3 Notre Dame - 12 Commits|
Rashad Kinlaw picks up a three-star rating from Scout.
|#4 Penn State - 8 Commits|
Curtis Cothran and Andrew Nelson both garner three-star ratings from Scout; Nelson also get three stars from 247.
|#5 Nebraska - 7 Commits|
The Cornhuskers add Ohio tight end Greg Hart.
|#6 Michigan State - 7 Commits|
Damion Terry goes from unranked to four stars on Scout.
|#7 Iowa - 7 Commits|
The Hawkeyes get a commitment from unranked Texas QB Nic Shimonek. Nathan Bazata gets a two-star ranking from Scout.
|#8 Wisconsin - 6 Commits|
No change for the Badgers.
|#9 Illinois - 9 Commits|
Kendrick Foster and Austin Schmidt pick up two-star ratings from Scout.
|#10 Northwestern - 2 Commits|
Blake King gets three stars from Scout.
|#11 Purdue - 2 Commits|
No change for the Boilermakers.
|#12 Minnesota - 1 Commit|
No change for the Gophers.
Indiana is the lone Big Ten school without a commit.
... or as your protected, cross-divisional rival, for that matter.
as others mentioned, they are paired with MSU! Brothers until the end!
Personally, I love it.
I love the way the whole division thingy broke down.
The bigten is becoming really tough - esp for teams like MSU and UofM that play ND every year.
May be fun to rip on ND, but they are going to be really good for many years to come.
Point being, every team needs a break here and there - can't play all of the good teams every year.
The divisions split up/protected game favors MSU. It mostly comes down to region and recruiting.
There will be years where MSU gets dumped on with cross division tough teams, but here's what we have with the division automatic games:
OSU and UofM were split in different division.
MSU gets UofM. No offense, but I'd rather play UofM on a consistant basis. And MSU players can get up for this game like no other.
PSU and NEB split.
PSU gets a lot of first picks in Pennsylvania recruiting. Neb gets the state of Nebraska. Neb is always relying heavily on imports. Not sure what the draw is in Nebraska aside from football history, which PSU already has - probably more history.
Wisconsin and Iowa split. Iowa is a good program, Wisconsin is better.
Of the remaining teams (not counting MSU), Illinois has the most potential to be a strong program. Purdue is probably second. Neither are in MSU's division.
MSU gets Minny and Northwestern as automatics...and IU as a protected "rivalry":).
Those should all be 9 out of 10.
Dantonio is pulling in some bigtime programs pre-bigten season (Boise, West Virginia, Bama..twice). That might be tough, but the division break down looks to have MSU bowling for decades. And recruiting well for a nice long time.
Michigan State fans constantly bitch that Michigan commits get the "michigan bump" when they commit here. Their unrated QB just got moved up to 4 star. Will they understand the irony, or will they overlook this detail?
if anyone from state cares. They bitch about us but they cant sell out a 80K stadium. They have to resort to "buy a foot long sandwich and get a free ticket".
No one cares about msu football, not even the students.
Are you being serious? "Free MSU ticket with purchase?"
NR at this point often means the site has not scouted them- not that they aren't good. When a player commits to a big program (which MSU is) then they likely expedite that process so that they have scouted players commited to top schools.
So the bump up at this stage is mostly a reflection of the tremendous amount of change possible in the early stages. When a player goes unchanged or unranked through multiple rounds of ranking updates and then commits and sees a huge bump you can argue its due to a "bump" but in this case I think its fairer to say its early in the game and the rankings change quickly.
Plus, I tend to agree that recruits to top schools get more hype, and that often translates to a "bump" in rankings that may not always be fair. And because Michigan has a bigger fanbase, and one that follows recruiting so heavily, it makes it more likely our recruits get a higher "bump" than those of many schools.
But rankings are only a reflection of success recruiting- a player won't be any better when they get to campus if they were a 5-star rather than a 4-star- its just that the expectations and class rankigs will be higher.
I suspect it is only a matter of time before this happens with York.
Terry got a 4, HEY!
Terry got a 4, HEY!
Terry got a 4, HEY!
Terry got a 4, HEY!
He already had a 4 from...I think espn's ranking system. Maybe it was a day after that chart came out.
Maybe, he's actually good enough to be a 4.
Or maybe, the rating sites are finally got embarrassed enough by MSU sending half of their sr class and two jr's to the NFL, and back to back 11-win seasons with mediocre class rankings.
Maybe, some MSU players should get a bump. Dantonio is clearly seeing something the recruiting sites are missing. Maybe an MSU recruit should be considered for that majestic star bump.
2* guys for MSU during the Dantonio era: Trenton Robinson, Le'Veon Bell, Darqueze Dennard, Joel Forman.
3* guys for MSU during the Dantonio era: Greg Jones, Kirk Cousins, Nick Foles (left from competition), B.J. Cunningham, Johnny Adams, Keshawn Martin, Jerel Worthy, Denicos Allen, Travis Jackson, Marcus Rush, Anthony White.
Lots of 3 star future NFL prospects in the 2011/2012 classes.
I'll just leave their names out for now, but there are a lot of them.
And yes, there are some high ranked players as well:)
Most of the UofM football journalists are saying that MSU and Dantonio are for real, and are here to stay.
don't be annoying.
They won't care since recruiting rankings don't matter except in basketball.
I agree w/ half your statement. I honestly don't care too much if some recruiting service gave him an extra star. His skillset has not magically improved since last week because he got a fictitious ranking by some guy in an office watching hundreds of hours of film. From the last couple years, MSU's highly ranked recruits has contained more Fred Smiths and Antonio Jeremiahs than Will Gholstons. I don't get too giddy and bogged down with stars. Same can go for basketball (Goran Suton vs. Marquise Gray)
I think basketball recruiting rankings are more accurate because in football you cant expect a true freshman to play right away, there is a ton of strength and conditioning that the player must do to be as good as the experienced ones in college. In basketball, you can expect a true freshman to start if he's a top 25 national player. You wont expect a top O-lineman to start for you as a true freshman against Big Ten D-lineman who are 3rd or 4th year players.
Also there are A LOT less players in basketball than there are in football, which leaves less "diamonds in the rough" type players who havent been rated by the system just because there are so many other players. In basketball there are only 2-4 players in a class usually so it can be more accurate to rate them all.
Just wondering how these are ranked? OSU has a higher average than michigan but they are ranked lower. Wisconsin also has a higher average than iowa but they are ranked lower. Is there a system, or do you just not bother changing it?
18 recruits with an average of 3.82 is > 11 recruits with an average of 3.91.
Once the classes start filling out you get a better idea of the actual class rankings.