I think it's time to start the Se'Von Pittman to OSU watch. He was apparently on the OSU sideline yesterday and chatted with Gordon Gee.
Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 9-25-11
Just a little bit more action this week after literally nothing happened the week prior, but there is a new feature on the rankings, per request—the "average average"—which is simply the average for each team of the four recruiting service averages. That sentence made zero sense, and may have broken the record for most times using the word 'average' in a sentence, but I think you get the idea. Action since last rankings:
9-16-11: Illinois picks up Vontrell Williams.
9-18-11: Notre Dame picks up Chris Brown.
9-19-11: Nebraska picks up Tommy Armstrong.
9-23-11: Purdue picks up Danny Anthrop.
[EDIT: I had a minor formula error in the spreadsheet I use to do these rankings that threw off the averages for Notre Dame and Indiana—those numbers have been fixed, and Notre Dame has been moved back up to #2 in the rankings.]
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|Rank||School||# Commits||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||ESPN Avg||24/7 Avg||Avg Avg^|
*ESPN doesn't rate JUCOs, so Isaac Fruechte (Minnesota), Darius Stroud (Indiana), Steffon Martin and Devin Smith (Purdue) are exluded from their respective team averages.
^Averages are calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
On to the full data, after the jump.
|#1 Michigan - 22 Commits|
No change for the Wolverines.
|#2 Notre Dame - 15 Commits|
The Irish pick up WR/ATH Chris Brown, who's a three-star across the board.
|#3 Penn State - 17 Commits|
The Nittany Lions don't pick up any recruits, but Austin Johnson (three stars), Jake Kiley (two stars), and Derek Dowrey (three stars) get ranked by 24/7.
After looking at the averages, I haven't found a good reason not to jump Penn State above Notre Dame. A mathematical messup would qualify as a good reason. Oops.
|#4 Ohio State - 12 Commits|
No change for the Buckeyes.
|#5 Michigan State - 14 Commits|
No new commits for the Spartans. Kodi Keiler picks up three stars from 24/7.
|#6 Wisconsin - 10 Commits|
No change for the Badgers. Reggie Mitchell and Arthur Goldberg both get three-star ratings from 24/7.
|#7 Indiana - 18 Commits|
No change for the Hoosiers. Darius Stroud garners three-star ratings from both Rivals and 24/7.
|#8 Northwestern - 16 Commits|
No change for the Wildcats. Jaylen Prater and Chris Fitzpatrick pick up two-star ratings from Scout and ESPN, respectively. Ian Park gets three stars and Connor Mahoney two from 24/7.
|#9 Iowa - 10 Commits|
No change for the Hawkeyes. Connor Kornbrath earns a two-star rating from 24/7, giving Iowa an even 3.00 average across the board from the four services.
|#10 Minnesota - 20 Commits|
Several ratings additions from 24/7 for the Gophers, as Jamel Harbison, Jordan Hinojosa, Maxx Williams, and Drew Davis all pick up three stars while Eric Murray, Isaac Fruechte, and Barrington Morris get two stars.
|#11 Purdue - 17 Commits|
The Boilermakers add Lafayette receiver Danny Anthrop.
|#12 Nebraska - 7 Commits|
The Huskers (finally!) add another recruit in three-star Tommy Armstrong, who has a very fitting name for a quarterback.
|#13 Illinois - 9 Commits|
The Illini grab three-star defensive tackle Vontrell Williams. Elliot Faerber and Tyler Barton each pick up two-star ratings from 24/7, and Barton also gets two stars from Scout.
Gee: "Son, with the NCAA on our ass and the economy in decline things have had to change a lot around here..."
Pittman: "How so Gordon?"
Gee: "Well, to start with we had to get rid of...I mean the old coach had to resign and I had to hire this discount lackey Fickell".
Pittman: "I see".
Gee: "Further, we've had to implement cutbacks in various initiatives to support our athletes. The 'real Buckeyes' program is over."
Pittman: "You mean the one involving the free tats that Braxton was talking about?"
Gee: "Well...yes, that and the vehicle component as well..."
Pittman: "Braxton mentioned that...but he identified there were still lots of openings in the charitable appearance program".
Gee: "Well, we might have to make some revisions in that area as well...it seems that even $200 these days is a problem". Things change.
Pittman: "They sure do...this is certainly making Michigan State look more attractive".
Gee: "You've got to be kidding me. Sure, you go up there you can enter into a life of crime and get off without recourse. You can play for one of Tressel's sycophants...he's used to letting players get awway with anything. But really, kid, if you weren't getting a commitable offer from Ann Arbor then why the hell not come to Columbus?"
Pittman: "74 0000 truck drivers?"
Just don't tell MSU; they're in denial. Apparently he gave an interview afterward that said he is still 100% to MSU and only came to watch one of his friends play. Thus there's nothing to worry about to them.
They just don't seem to understand that OSU doesn't really make it a habit to let committed prospects visit and get the full treatment when there's no interest at all. The rumors on the OSU boards are that Pittman initiated contact (like it usually is) and also brought his mom along on the visit. So basically he's 100% to MSU like Dunn is 100% to OSU.
using the rapper Chris Brown, the player Chris Brown, the rapper Chris Brown hitting women, and ND players being accused of sexual assault? If Chris Brown ends up being a player, opposing fans are going to have a field day.
What's going on with Nebraska? I hear they're slated for a small class, but is it the move that's killing them? Traditional powerhouse teams ranked in the top ten preseason don't normally have a small smattering of three stars at this point, do they?
Notre Dame is one of our primary competitors in recruiting, so it's interesting to see their class here.
I'll admit, though, that ever since it leaked that they'd prefer the ACC to the Big Ten, I've thought that it's time to cold shoulder those bastards whenever possible.
I plussed that first question, so you should be back in the blue(?). Sadly, Pitt can't really compete with the Big Ten/ Michigan recruiting wise. Many of their players also come from outside the traditional footprint (a ton of guys from NY and NJ) that a school like Michigan recruits.
ND, while they are a bunch of blankety blank blankers, still is a recruiting juggernaut, and it's common to see a top three including both Michigan and ND. They're also our only yearly out of conference rival, so it's a good idea to keep tabs, IMO.
They're labeled the Big Ten+ rankings. If there was an SEC/ACC school in Big Ten country, they'd be included as well.
In addition to all the reasons said above, we play them every year. I like seeing how we stack up with teams we play regularly.
By the way, ESPN's ranking of Ondre Pipkins seems a little ridiculous, no? They have him as the #46 DT (and 11th-best player in Missouri), which makes him a mid-3-star recruit.
The scary thing is, ESPN was the only service that was not high on Will Campbell. I believe that they even had him rated as an OT rather than a DT. That seems rather prescient now, does it not?
I seem to recall BWC being raw coming out of high school so richrod prompty torched his redshirt for special teams duty and early returns on mattison says that there was some criminally bad coaching going on the last few years. I think BWC won't quite meet expectations, but I think he can be a good DT before he graduates
Which player would you guess is better based on the offer sheet:
Stanford, IU, MSU, Minnesota, Missouri, Neb, Tulsa, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, KSU, Purdue
USC, Florida, MSU, Minnesota, Missouri, That School in Ohio, Oklahoma, Alabama, Tennessee
Player B is Ondre Pipkins. Player A is a DE rated three spots ahead of him in the Missouri rankings.
How does ESPN come to this conclusion about player A with no video or even picture of this kid. Have they ever seen him or know what he looks like?
The averages for ND appear to be much lower than they should be. I seem to remember that they had a very high Scout rating the last time you posted this update (around 3.8 IIRC) and now they have dropped down to 3.47 with the addition of just one 3 star recruit? New math?
You're right ... error in the formula on the spreadsheet I keep. Crap. Time to go back through all of these and do the old double-check. Sorry about that.
I think you edited it, but it still doesn't look right. Looking only at Notre Dame's Rivals rankings, they have six 4-star recruits, eight 3-star recruits, and a 2-star recruit.
(6*4) + (8*3) + (1*2) = 50, and 50/15 should be 3.33, not 3.4
Illinois is surprising. Wasn't Zook supposed to be a good (and possibly dirty) recruiter?
I think Mike Locksely was his ace recruiter, especially in the D.C. area. That might explain the drop-off in recruiting prowess displayed by Illiniois.
We need a HELLO........already.