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Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 6-27
Action since last rankings:
6-21-10 Minnesota gains commitment from Quinn Bauducco.
6-22-10 Indiana gains commitment from Jalen Schlachter. Iowa gains commitment from Henry Krieger-Coble. Nebraska gains commitment from Zach Sterup.
6-23-10 Indiana gains commitment from Jay McCants. Iowa gains commitment from Austin Vincent.
6-24-10 Michigan State gains commitment from Paul Lang.
6-25-10 Notre Dame gains commitment from Eilar Hardy.
| Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rank | School | # Commits | Rivals Avg | Scout Avg | ESPN Avg |
| 1 | Ohio State | 15 | 3.47 | 3.67 | 79.20 |
| 2 | Nebraska | 12 | 3.33 | 3.25 | 73.00 |
| 3 | Notre Dame | 11 | 2.91 | 3.55 | 75.73 |
| 4 | Michigan | 5 | 3.40 | 3.20 | 78.20 |
| 5 | Michigan State | 6 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 76.33 |
| 6 | Indiana | 18 | 2.67 | 2.33 | 72.11 |
| 7 | Iowa | 5 | 2.80 | 2.00 | 71.20 |
| 8 | Purdue | 5 | 2.20 | 3.00 | 70.00 |
| 9 | Northwestern | 5 | 2.60 | 2.40 | 71.00 |
| 10 | Minnesota | 5 | 2.40 | 2.20 | 69.80 |
| 11 | Wisconsin | 4 | 2.25 | 2.25 | 61.50 |
| 12 | Illinois | 4 | 2.00 | 2.50 | 60.50 |
| 13 | Penn State | 1 | 1.00 | 2.00 | 76.00 |
Rivals and Scout are on the 5-star scale, ESPN is on their numerical rankings. In next week's update, I may convert Rivals to their "RR" rating. Please bear with me (and let me know) if you see any errors in the charts, as adding Nebraska may have screwed with some stuff that I didn't notice.
| #1 Ohio State - 15 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Steve Miller | DE | 4 | 5 | 84 |
| Braxton Miller | QB | 4 | 5 | 84 |
| Michael Bennett | DT | 4 | 4 | 80 |
| Brian Bobek | OL | 4 | 4 | 79 |
| Chase Farris | DE | 4 | 4 | 79 |
| Kenny Hayes | DE | 4 | 4 | 78 |
| Jeremy Cash | S | 4 | 3 | 80 |
| Evan Spencer | WR | 3 | 4 | 81 |
| DerJuan Gambrell | CB | 3 | 4 | 77 |
| Jeff Heuerman | TE | 3 | 3 | 80 |
| Joel Hale | DT | 3 | 3 | 79 |
| Chris Carter | OL | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Tommy Brown | OL | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Devin Smith | WR | 3 | 3 | 76 |
| Antonio Underwood | OL | 3 | 3 | 75 |
Buckeyes stay atop the rankings.
| #2 Nebraska - 12 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Bubba Starling | QB | 4 | 4 | 81 |
| Jamal Turner | QB | 4 | 4 | 81 |
| Ryne Reeves | OL | 4 | 4 | 79 |
| Ryan Klachko | OL | 4 | 4 | 78 |
| Tyler Moore | OL | 4 | 4 | 78 |
| Tevin Mitchell | CB | 4 | 3 | 79 |
| Zach Sterup | OL | 4 | 3 | 78 |
| Kevin Williams | DT | 3 | 3 | 79 |
| Dylan Admire | OL | 3 | 3 | 77 |
| Daniel Davie | S | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Aaryn Bouzos | CB | 2 | 2 | 76 |
| Daimion Stafford | S | NR | 3 | NR |
The newest member of the Big Ten is quietly putting together the #2 class in the conference.
| #3 Notre Dame - 11 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Ben Koyack | TE | 4 | 5 | 81 |
| Matt Hegarty | OL | 4 | 4 | 83 |
| Eilar Hardy | S | 4 | 4 | 79 |
| Jordan Prestwood | OL | 3 | 4 | 80 |
| Jarrett Grace | LB | 3 | 4 | 78 |
| Tony Springmann | OL | 3 | 4 | 78 |
| Conor Hanratty | OL | 3 | 4 | 76 |
| Brad Carrico | OL | 3 | 3 | 77 |
| Matthias Farley | CB | 3 | 3 | 77 |
| Clay Burton | DE | NR | 3 | 79 |
| Kyle Brindza | K | NR | NR | NR |
Safety help come in the form of Ohio's Eilar Hardy.
| #4 Michigan - 5 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Brennen Beyer | DE | 4 | 4 | 79 |
| Delonte Hollowell | CB | 4 | 3 | 79 |
| Chris Rock | DE | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Shawn Conway | WR | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Greg Brown | CB | 3 | 3 | 77 |
Michigan manages to stay ahead of the Spartans on virtue of average value per commit. Will they have a QB in the class at this time next week?
| #5 Michigan State - 6 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Lawrence Thomas | LB | 5 | 5 | 80 |
| Onaje Miller | RB/Ath | 3 | 4 | 78 |
| Taiwan Jones | Ath/LB | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| AJ Sims | CB | 3 | 2 | 78 |
| Connor Cook | QB | 3 | 2 | 76 |
| Paul Lang | TE | NR | 2 | 68 |
Sleeper TE Paul Lang goes green.
| #6 Indiana - 18 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Raymon Taylor | CB | 4 | 3 | 77 |
| Zack Shaw | LB | 4 | 2 | 76 |
| Max Pirman | LB | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Jake Reed | TE | 3 | 3 | 77 |
| Jalen Schlachter | TE | 3 | 3 | 75 |
| Ralston Evans | OL | 3 | 3 | 74 |
| Nick Stoner | S | 3 | 3 | 74 |
| Kirk Harris | OL | 3 | 2 | 77 |
| Tre Roberson | QB | 3 | 2 | 76 |
| Kyle Kennedy | LB | 3 | 2 | 76 |
| CJ Robbins | DE | 3 | 2 | 75 |
| Mark Murphy | S | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Kenny Mullen | CB | 2 | 3 | 74 |
| Mike Replogle | LB | 2 | 2 | 74 |
| Donte Phillips | DE | 2 | 2 | 74 |
| Jay McCants | WR | 2 | NR | NR |
| Shafer Johnson | DT | NR | 2 | 77 |
| Nick VanHoose | DB | NR | 2 | 74 |
Hoosiers still paving the way in terms of number of commitments. They also have better quality in commits (two 4-stars?!?!) than they have in the past. I still don't think Taylor will finish ranked this high.
| #7 Iowa - 5 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Austin Blythe | OL | 4 | 3 | 79 |
| JaCorey Shepherd | WR | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Marcus Grant | WR | 3 | 2 | 76 |
| Henry Krieger-Coble | WR | 3 | NR | 78 |
| Austin Vincent | WR | NR | NR | NR |
Iowa barely hangs on ahead of Purdue on the basis of Rivals and ESPN averages. When both schools' commits are fully ranked, we'll see how it shakes out.
| #8 Purdue - 5 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Russell Bellomy | QB | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Robert Kugler | TE | 3 | 3 | 78 |
| Brandon Cottom | LB | 3 | 3 | 76 |
| Michael Rouse | DT | NR | 3 | 73 |
| Randy Gregory | DE | NR | 3 | NR |
No change for Purdue. They're awaiting Rivals rankings for two of their guys.
| #9 Northwestern - 5 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Sean Cotton | S | 3 | 3 | 79 |
| Jarrell Williams | CB | 3 | 3 | 76 |
| Shane Mertz | OL | 3 | 3 | NR |
| Mark Szott | TE | 3 | 2 | 77 |
| Max Chapman | DE | NR | NR | 78 |
No change in Evanston.
| #10 Minnesota - 5 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Max Shortell | QB | 3 | 3 | 74 |
| Tommy Olson | OL | 3 | 2 | 79 |
| Quinn Bauducco | LB | 3 | 2 | NR |
| Sam Rohr | TE | 2 | 2 | 74 |
| Jephete Matilus | LB | NR | 2 | 77 |
Minnesota picks up Quinn Bauducco and passes Wisconsin on the basis of his rankings.
| #11 Wisconsin - 4 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Jake Keefer | LB | 4 | 3 | 78 |
| Sam Arneson | TE | 3 | 2 | 78 |
| Austin Maly | TE | 3 | 2 | 76 |
| Eric Steffes | TE | NR | 2 | NR |
Passed by Minnesota.
| #12 Illinois - 4 Commits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Zeph Grimes | S | 3 | 3 | 77 |
| Chris O'Connor | DE | 2 | 3 | 75 |
| Hunter Wells | OL | 2 | 3 | NR |
| Marquise Mosley | WR | NR | NR | NR |
No change for UI.
| #13 Penn State - 1 Commit | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Position | Rivals | Scout | ESPN |
| Kyle Carter | TE | 2 | 2 | 76 |
Penn State still seriously lagging behind. Does that mean a slow start to the season could doom their recruiting class?
June 27th, 2010 at 9:44 PM | 
I played against Zach Sterup;
I played against Zach Sterup;
June 28th, 2010 at 12:00 AM |
But does he know how to
But does he know how to
But does he know how to punctuate correctly?
"Relax you panic monger" -Megatron
June 27th, 2010 at 10:42 PM |
I'll take
I'll take
three OL and two linebacker silent verbals for 100 Alex.
Thanks Tom for the update.
"Runnnn!!! get to da choppa"
June 27th, 2010 at 10:57 PM |
Good
Good
info Tom, thanks for the update.
Those who stay will be champions...
June 27th, 2010 at 11:38 PM |
or
or
we could thank Tim, who has been doing this feature forever.
June 28th, 2010 at 2:08 AM |
PSU
PSU
What is going on with Penn State? One commitment? I know the state of Pennsylvania is supposed to be light this year, but that just means they should be working harder to pull from other states.
June 28th, 2010 at 7:33 AM |
they made a lot of mistakes
they made a lot of mistakes
they made a lot of mistakes early in the year when getting their offers sent out and are suffering because of it. One of their near locks just committed to Virginia
Current Smug rating: "lethal"
June 28th, 2010 at 8:54 AM |
what kind of mistakes?
what kind of mistakes?
not enough postage?
Auwê ka hua`i lâ
June 28th, 2010 at 9:01 AM |
Could you elaborate a little
Could you elaborate a little
Could you elaborate a little more? What kind of mistake in the offers process causes you to lose out on "near locks"?
June 28th, 2010 at 10:30 PM |
The scholarship writing
The scholarship writing
The scholarship writing coach(s?) were on vacation, Joepa was in Hawaii, and as a result had only offered literally a total of 6 (I think, it was single digits for sure) recruits in March. It has put them so far behind, that they are losing out on many who were expected to be at PSU. Its still far from NSD, but teams who changed their entire coaching staffs and much less to work with than PSU have better classes by a long ways.
Guys like Savon Huggins should have PSU the team to beat, but PSU isn't even a lock for his top 10 cut down. Their lone commit Carter, who I am not trying to bag on in anyway, only had offers from Dartmuth and Delaware. Albert Louis-Jean committed to Miami without even visiting PSU, I believe. Brandon Phelps, just committed to Virginia over PSU; UVA ended their season in a 42-17 loss to VT going 3-9 overall, PSU just went 11-2 with a Citrus bowl win. I don't know what they were thinking, but not getting those offers out has put them a long way behind the rest of the country, be interesting to see how it plays out
EDIT: Appears Pitt just stole another one, but PSU might just have doubled their commits
Current Smug rating: "lethal"
June 29th, 2010 at 10:50 AM |
@ the edit
@ the edit
im assuming you are talking about marquise wright as the prospect that pitt stole from penn state? he had a PSU offer, so im simply guessing you didnt mean lafayette pitts(no psu offer). who is the commit that you think committed to psu? ive been updating my twitter(im following a bunch of recruiting people) and i dont see anything on a new psu commit.
Hook 'em Horns
June 29th, 2010 at 1:02 PM |
yeah Wright to Pitt, Shawn
yeah Wright to Pitt, Shawn
yeah Wright to Pitt, Shawn Oakman to PSU - not official yet I don't think
Current Smug rating: "lethal"
June 28th, 2010 at 8:25 AM |
Tim
Tim
Do you think that given the relative rareness of 5* players (rivals has only 11 I believe) that this would outweigh the advantage of us having a 3* compared to a a 2* from MSU? Being separated by 1* keeps the average for M better, but you have to think at this point you would rather have MSU's class. Basically, having a 5* should far outweigh a few 2* not being 3*s. Thoughts?
June 28th, 2010 at 8:44 AM |
Definietly Fuzzy Logic
Definietly Fuzzy Logic
If early on one team has two 5* players and another has 2 4* players, the first class is obviously better. Now add a 1* to the first class, and the star average is now less than 4 for the entire class. Therefore we have subtraction by addition.
June 28th, 2010 at 9:12 AM |
If early on one team has
If early on one team has
If early on one team has two 5* players and another has 2 4* players, the first class is obviously better. Now add a 1* to the first class, and the star average is now less than 4 for the entire class. Therefore we have subtraction by addition.
Your logic makes sense, but that's not what happened. Michigan was already ahead of Michigan State before the Spartans' newest commit. This case is more an instance of "no change by addition," since Lang on his own is not worthy of bumping the Spartans past Michigan.
The schools are basically neck-and-neck. Michigan was slightly ahead last week, and now they're about even. When in doubt, I'll keep them ranked in the same order thanks to inertia.
June 28th, 2010 at 10:27 AM |
I see your logic
I see your logic
and agree with it. Thanks for the clarification.
June 28th, 2010 at 9:10 AM |
My main issue is that
My main issue is that
My main issue is that Michigan State has one star player, then, in all honesty, a bunch of prospects who are just guys. Michigan at least has multiple 4-star guys, as well as some lesser-rated prospects (so far) that had some other fairly serious offers - Rock held tenders from the likes of Notre Dame, Oregon, and Pitt.
By the time full rankings are released, there's a good chance Michigan State's current 6 could be better than Michigan's current 5, but that's not the case yet.
June 28th, 2010 at 8:51 AM |
Rankings
Rankings
Sorry if this is obvious and I just don't see it, but how do you rank the schools? It doesn't seem to line up with any of the categories, so some sort of calculation?
June 29th, 2010 at 12:31 PM |
Comparing side-bu-side and
Comparing side-bu-side and
Comparing side-bu-side and basically just going with which class looks better. There's a much heavier emphasis on quality of commits than number of commits (see Indiana behind Michigan and MSU), but it's basically just what I think looks better.
No scientific calculations or anything.
June 28th, 2010 at 9:55 AM |
Tim
Tim
I like the idea of using the Rivals Rankings. That would help give a little better definition. Also, you could add your own ranking because you editorialize on the other recruiting services' rankings anyway. Might be a way to easier justify your class rankings.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:04 AM |
I plan to switch to the RR
I plan to switch to the RR
I plan to switch to the RR rating for Rivals once their rankings are a little more complete - though I guess I could do it as early as next week.
As far as my own rankings, I don't pay enough attention to all the prospects to actually rank them all. I have solid opinions on a select few, but the rest is simply based on some amalgamation of what the different recruitniks are saying.
June 29th, 2010 at 10:39 AM |
honest question...
honest question...
why do most mgoblog readers favor Rivals over Scout for recruiting rankings (or so it seems)?
Scout seems to have a good presence in the Ohio-Michigan-Pennsylvania area.
June 29th, 2010 at 12:32 PM |
I like Rivals more simply
I like Rivals more simply
I like Rivals more simply because, as long as I've been following recruiting, I think they've done a much better job ranking players.
June 29th, 2010 at 10:40 AM |
not that it truly matters but
not that it truly matters but
how does purdue stay ahead of northwestern?
Hook 'em Horns
June 29th, 2010 at 12:34 PM |
They were just about dead
They were just about dead
They were just about dead even, but Purdue has more upward mobility with 2 guys currently unranked on Rivals. If you bump either of those guys to the minimum (2 stars), they would move even with Northwestern in average Rivals ranking as well.
Also, when two teams are so close in the rankings, I generally stick with the order I had teams in the previous week.
June 29th, 2010 at 4:36 PM |
I suppose that...
I suppose that...
...with the Jack Miller commitment the U-M/MSU reranking debate is OBE for now.
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:44 PM |
I haven't run the numbers
I haven't run the numbers
I haven't run the numbers yet, but I assume this will indeed keep the Wolverines ahead. Another commit in the next few days would welcomed too, of course.
I played against Zach Sterup; the Nebraska commit, two years ago (I lined up against him on the line). he's a four star, but lazy he'll play hard for 2 downs then start to slack, but he's HUGE.
His team (Hastings St. Cecilia) is my Alma's arch rival.