BCS Conf School Rankings

Submitted by superstringer on

[Ed - Prof: Bumped for general diary-worthiness]

 

This is a follow-up to an earlier forum post with the US News ranking UM the #28 school in the country. (I know, it's a very flawed and simplistic tool, but it's also the most famous by far.) I've always wondered just how much better the Big 10 was than, say, the SEC overall, and the rankings let us measure all of the BCS conferences.  I only look at football, so the Big East doesn't get the benefit of very excellent but basketball-only schools (Notre Dame, Georgetown, etc. etc.). (For the record, I already have TAMU in the SEC. Seems to be a foregone conclusion, and if we're arguing who's better, might as well do it looking ahead and not backwards. OU, OSU(NTOSU), and TTU might cause some re-jiggering.)

AVERAGE RANKING, ALL SCHOOLS:
This is just a mathematical average of the USNWR ranking for each school in the conference:
ACC         49 (best)
BIG TEN   56
PAC 12     79
SEC         104
BIG EAST 105
BIG XII      124 (worst)
This isn't really a great measure, because schools can be bunched in the middle versus at the top, but as an overall measure, clearly the ACC and Big Ten are the best two academic conferences. For all of its quality in its top 4 schools, the Pac 12 is dragged down by some really pathetically crappy party schools. The Big XII by far lags behind.

To get a sense of distribution of the schools' qualities, I looked at the average Top 5 and Bottom 5. No surprises here:
Average Ranking, Top 5 Schools:
PAC 12    23
ACC         24
BIG TEN   34
SEC         54
BIG EAST 69
BIG XII      82
This means the Pac 12 and ACC have the best group of top schools, with the Big Ten back quite a bit, but the others dropping precipitously behind. Again Big XII sucks.

Average Ranking, Bottom 5 Schools:
BIG TEN   77
ACC         80
PAC 12     127
BIG XII      127
SEC         136
BIG EAST 150
This just means our worst 5 schools are better than the worst 5 from any other conference.  Note that our worst five (avg. 77) are still, on average, better than the Big XII's best 5 (avg. 82)!!!  No wonder we don't want Oklahoma.  And as bad as the Big XII is overall, its worst five are about the same as the Pac 12's worst five. The Big East has by far the worst group of five schools of anyone.  That would drop even more if you took locations of the schools into account (see: West Virginia) (but but see:  South Florida).

GRADED RESULT, ALL SCHOOLS:
To get a more fair measure of the conferences based on the distribution of schools' rankings, I "graded" the conferences with a rigid mathematical formula. Each conference received 10 points for each school in the Top 10; 8 points for each school ranked 11-20; then 6 points down to 1 point for each school, respectively, ranked 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, 51-75, 76-100, and 101-125. No points for schools ranked 126 or worse. So conferences with proportionately more "high" (good) rankings will get scored better, with a bonus for top-rated schools. Then I divided each conference's total points by the number of schools, so it's a fair comparison (no extra points just by having more schools). The results:
ACC         4.5 (best)
BIG TEN   3.4
PAC 12     3.2
SEC         1.9
BIG EAST 1.8
BIG XII      1.4 (worst)
So by this more telling methodology, the ACC is by FAR the best overall academic conference; the Big Ten just nudges out the Pac 12 (because our middle- and low-ranked schools overall make up for the fact that the Pac 12 has the best "top 4" of any conference but among the worst "Bottom 5"). The SEC and Big East are about the same, lagging way behind, and the Big XII brings up the rear. Again.

So my conclusion: While I might have guessed the SEC would be deal last here, in fact, the Big XII clearly is dead last.

 

Comments

justingoblue

September 13th, 2011 at 6:49 PM ^

My research ranking numbers showed the Big Ten to be dominant, including over the Ivy League. Honestly, I think that's a much more accurate measure of how conferences and schools view themselves. An admissions director might care a lot about US News, but I highly doubt faculty or administration do. 

Still, nice work putting it all together.

Edit: Seems like sucky is the definitive answer on the BXII, though. Especially withot TAMU.

Jeff

September 16th, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^

 

Without looking it is interesting to guess each conference's top 5.  Most of the time the top 3 are pretty obvious but 4 and 5 are tougher.
 
The Pac-12's "top 4" is Stanford, Cal, UCLA and then USC or Washington (with the other being fifth I assume).  That is a very good top 4/5.  Here I am very confident about the top 5 but not sure which is 4th or 5th.
 
Who are the ACC's top 5? Duke, Virginia, UNC are almost certainly the top 3.  Then two of Maryland, Miami, Georgia Tech?
 
Big Ten's top three are easy: Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin.  While not as confident as the Pac-12 I am pretty sure Illinois and Ohio State are probably 4/5.
 
The others are tough because there are not as many very good schools.  I would  guess the SEC has a top 3 of Vanderbilt, Florida, Georgia and then a big cliff.  For the Big East I would imagine Pitt and Syracuse are the top 2 with maybe Rutgers as third?
 
The Big Twelve has Texas and then something even more drastic than the SEC/Big East cliff.