Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home Diaries Ziff72's blog

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (53)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • Does Expansion Actually Lead to More Recruits From a Certain Region?
    maizeonblueaction - 6 hours ago
  • Raiding the B1G-er Big Ten: Recruiting Prospects in Maryland and Rutgers Territory
    The Mathlete - 1 day ago
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 2 days ago
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 3 days ago
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 3 days ago
  •  
  • 1 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 870 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 776 views
  • UMich NFL draft history, Part III
    blueheron - 751 views
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 680 views
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 564 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 4-30-13
    Ace - 81 comments
  • Using Rivals' Star Ratings To Look At Big Ten Football Recruiting: 2002-2013
    LSAClassOf2000 - 19 comments
  • LIGHT IT UP, AGAIN. WALLPAPER
    jonvalk - 17 comments
  • A Cynical Take on Why Expansion May be Dead for the Forseeable Future
    maizeonblueaction - 17 comments
  • Raiding the B1G-er Big Ten: Recruiting Prospects in Maryland and Rutgers Territory
    The Mathlete - 12 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    2 replies
  • OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012
    16 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    22 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    30 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    182 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    32 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    131 replies
  • Baseball Eliminated from B1G
    19 replies
  • Denard, other rookies discuss Star Trek
    52 replies
  • Urbs and his obsession with butts
    51 replies
  • Very OT: The Hangover 3 *Thread May Contain Spoilers*
    57 replies
  • Scouting Report: Jabrill Peppers
    148 replies
  • Awesome Uniform Timeline on MVictors
    39 replies
  • Baby’s life saved with 3D printed device at C.S. Mott
    36 replies
  • OT: Mott Takeover
    15 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    131 replies
  • OT: Star Trek + Dilithium = Esplode…. Esplode clarity
    2 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    182 replies
  • Urbs and his obsession with butts
    51 replies
  • OT - ND paid Charlie more than Brian Kelly in 2012
    16 replies
  • Scouting Report: Jabrill Peppers
    148 replies
  • Very OT: The Hangover 3 *Thread May Contain Spoilers*
    57 replies
  • OT: ESPN hires Paul Finebaum
    30 replies
  • OT? Graduatin' Season. Who had the Worst Commencement Speaker?
    140 replies
  • Mark May Trolls Ohio State Again, Buckeyes Fans Let Him Have It On Twitter
    32 replies
  • Softball SuperRegionals Open Thread
    22 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    91 replies
  • Awesome Uniform Timeline on MVictors
    39 replies
  • ESPN's Luginbill Predicts Top 5 Impact Freshmen, includes Derrick Green
    71 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    148 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 3 Open Thread
    203 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 4 Open Thread
    182 replies
  • OT - Official MGoBaby Thread (you got 'em, we want to see 'em)
    148 replies
  • Scouting Report: Jabrill Peppers
    148 replies
  • How much do you really hate ohio?
    145 replies
  • OT? Graduatin' Season. Who had the Worst Commencement Speaker?
    140 replies
  • Who should replace ND in a long-term series?
    131 replies
  • Speight and TomVH on Peppers
    116 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    114 replies
  • Prayers for Moore, Oklahoma
    112 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • 5 star 2013 DT may not be enrolling at Notre Dame
    91 replies
  • OT: NBA Draft Lottery
    78 replies
  • ESPN 30 for 30 on the Bad Boys
    77 replies
  • Michigan Softball vs. Cal Open Thread
    75 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • This college baseball team is the best at postgame interviews

    national champs baby

    0 comments
  • Rounding up the latest in NCAA absurdities.

    Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.

    0 comments
  • Cornell wrestler tops Michigan's Trey Burke for Sports Illustrated award | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

    first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"

    0 comments
  • Burke hearing he'll go two through six in NBA draft

    stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly

    0 comments
  • 2013 NHL Draft Prospect: Andrew Copp

    rundown of Michigan's riser

    0 comments
  • Michigan's key returnee: Glenn Robinson

    needs moar usage

    0 comments
  • Former Arkansas QB Brandon Mitchell transferring to NC State

    so much for that

    0 comments
  • The B1G List: Ranking the State Fossils of the Big Ten

    This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.

    0 comments
  • Trey Burke turns to inner circle to prepare for NBA draft

    will be michigan's highest pick in a while

    2 comments
  • B1G assistant coach salaries on the rise

    money has to go somewhere

    0 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. is motivated by his critics and doubters, and supremely confident in his ability

    I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.

    0 comments
  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. turning heads, viewed as a first-rounder by some teams, analyst says

    If you're gonna go please be in the first round.

    0 comments
  • Michigan-Ohio State once, Indiana-Purdue once? The Big Ten has to protect its hoops rivalries

    another delightful side effect of a 14 team conference

    0 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

Another Game Theory Debacle

By Ziff72 — September 15th, 2008 at 9:04 AM — 12 comments

Another weekend of pulling my hair out watching coaches or players making the most amazingly stupid decisions.  Ryan Mundy is my hall of famer for biting onthe 2nd and 1 in The Game in 06.  This weekend was great.

Fat Bastard Genius Weis-Up 14-0 they stop Mich near midfield.  Mich faces a 4th and 2 a place to be wary of the fake.  We line up and ND calls time out, Mich still goes thru half their play before they hear the whistle so you see the roll out punt.  The ND brain trust sees all this talks about it and they overload the formation to the other side Zoltan rolls out no one is there and 1st down.  Simply amazing.

Not sure of the coverage I think cover 3 on ND's bomb.  What in the name of Mundy is Harrison thinkin??  ND hasn't ran the ball in 2 years we have a great front 4 they don't need safeties in run support.  How he can take a false step on 1 and 10 is  beyond me just terrible.  If it's the Lions and your front 7 is getting blown up yeah maybe, but the ND rush game in the 1st qtr come on.

Romeo Crennel last night is too much down 10-3 with 5 minutes at the Pit 30 he hands off to J. Lewis then huddles on 2nd down hand to J. Lewis then huddle.  3rd down incomplete pass. It's 4th and 6.....then he brings the FG team out??? Are you kidding?? Let's see what are the better odds make a 4th and 6 or make a 40yd fg in a slopped up field with wind and rain, kick off into the wind and don't allow Pitt 1 1st down then march 70yds with no timeouts and get a td which you haven't acomplished in the 1st 58 minutes of the game.  Fire him now.

The decision which actually has some merit to debate was Shannahan going for 2 and the win.  For the situation I love it.  His D had stopped no one in the 2nd half so instead of letting your game rest on a coin flip he took matters into his own hands.  Most times I 'm not sure I would agree, but given his d's perfoprmance I liked it.  Then with 24 seconds and no time outs they allow SD to complete a pass and get out of bounds adn was an inch from getting into fg position.  No idea how that happens...

So far from Rich Rod I did not like allowing Sheridan to throw against Utah at the end of the half and swinging a pass to Minor seemed kinda senseless on the 1st drive but so far not a lot of data in yet.

Rod did fall into the same thing I see a lot of coaches fall into when games are getting out of control.  We should have went for it in the 4th qtr when we were way down.  I think a lot of times coaches are worried about giving away points and getting blown out.  Chances were very slim for a comeback, 3 scores with 7 minutes to go, but there is nothing to lose other than some meaningless scores just keep going for it.

Thanks for your time, let me know your thoughts or other boneheaded play you saw this week. 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  • Ziff72's blog
  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:31 AM | The power of 72. (Score:1)
Lordfoul
Lordfoul's picture
Joined: 07/01/2008
MGoPoints: 1459

Ahh, the luckiest number in the universe! Tell me why you picked it in your handle. I need to know.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 10:41 AM | 72 solved (Score:1)
Ziff72
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 5147

When I signed on to aol.  I entered my nickname handed down thru my brothers friends.  Knowing Mike wouldn't be unique.  To my amazement Ziff was taken, even more shocked Ziff1 was taken Ziff2 was taken then I thought outside the box.  I'm a golfer at the time my best score was 72.  Bam!!

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 12:34 PM | Ah, the days of AOL (Score:1)
sdogg1m
sdogg1m's picture
Joined: 09/13/2008
MGoPoints: 269

and funny nicknames. The reason why I get asked once a week, "why is your nickname sdogg1m?"

  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2008 at 7:09 AM | That was fortunate for you. (Score:1)
Lordfoul
Lordfoul's picture
Joined: 07/01/2008
MGoPoints: 1459

I am really not supersticious (sp?) but I believe in the power of 72.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 11:01 AM | Tressel always does play action on that down and distance (Score:1)
imafreak1
imafreak1's picture
Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 1367

Mundy biting on the play action in 2006 has always made me crazy.

I thought RR did a great job on Saturday. The offense moved the ball well. The fake punt was great. The blocked punt was great. That kind of stuff never seemed to happen under Carr. I don’t really get the criticism for the swing pass to Minor. That’s not supposed to be a backward pass so it’s perfectly safe. It’s hardly RR’s fault that a bunch of freshmen fumbled in the rain. Those games will happen and it’s not surprising we had one in this teams first road game. They fought back but were up against fate. This loss leaves me much less disgusted than 2004 or 2005 where it seemed like the coaches didn’t particularly want to win.

Crennel botched plenty last night. At the end of the first half, they should have called their last TO after the 9 yard gain and preserved 23 seconds. That gives you two endzone shots before you kick the FG on 4th. That was all time would allow so the first down didn’t really matter. After the Browns got the first down they needed to use the remaining 8 seconds to kick the FG. I thought Crennel’s mistake at the end of the game was taking 7:30 of the 4th quarter to kick a FG that left them still needing a TD. On the last set of downs they ran on first and second. Tick tock, Romeo, you need two scores. Stop with the 3 play 10 yard increments. Going on 4th was probably the play that gave them the best chance of winning from there on out.

Give it to Wheatley!

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 9:59 AM | Agree 100% with (Score:1)
willis j
willis j's picture
Joined: 08/11/2008
MGoPoints: 178

the RAC comments in the Browns game. Two gamse in a row that RAC makes a stupid decision. Really, Lewis who is averaging 2 yards a run, lets run him 2 times in a row and leave 3rd and long. DA can tip off the slant to Edwards we all knew was comming then we can kick the FG. Hey , you didnt want points on the board? But hey if they hold them to 3 and out they can drive the 70 yards with <2 min and 0 timeouts just like the OP said. So whatever.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 10:38 AM | Harrison had the top half of (Score:1)
Magnus
Magnus's picture
Joined: 07/17/2008
MGoPoints: 27472

Harrison had the top half of the field (from the TV camera angle) on that bomb. They were in Cover 2. That TD to Golden Tate was all Morgan Trent and/or Steve Brown.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 11:13 AM | Hopefully Brian has the (Score:1)
Ziff72
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 5147

Hopefully Brian has the reply on his UFR in any case I would love to know what the coaches are telling them in film study all week.  The ND line is/was horrid they may be improving, but going into that game I can't imagine the coaches were worried that they would have to get the safteies involved in the run game so to bite is inexcuseable.  Maybe Gsimm has some insight on what keys they are looking at.  In rudimentary HS ball FS position I was taught  unless I was blitzin I wasn't allowed to make a move forward until the ball passed the LOS. 

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 11:05 AM | Re: safety play (Score:1)
ThWard
Joined: 07/10/2008
MGoPoints: 2633

I thought that was Brown that bit on the PA as well. Gsimmons seemed to think it was Trent's fault, based on the coverage, that he shouldn't have been relying on safety help. Dunno. Either way, it was clear that Trent, Brown, and Harrison weren't on the same page.

  • Login or register to post comments
September 15th, 2008 at 10:25 PM | like i have said (Score:1)
gsimmons85
gsimmons85's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 173

it looked like shafers 2 match defense... which is a two read safety robber defense.... no number 2 to browns side, so he is run support, (notice his allignment closer to the los on the weakside then the strong safety who has a number 2 that could go vertical) and or help underneith of number 1. that was what RR was refering too when he says "some might have looked like stevies fault" its tough being a safety, becasue most fans that have no idea what defense is being taught, see the closest man to the ball and assumes he was the one responsible for that play.

www.gsimmons85.blogspot.com

  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2008 at 12:11 AM | it also (Score:1)
gsimmons85
gsimmons85's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 173

looks like it may be a cover three roll concept, in which case the other safety didnt get to the middle of the field, either way,  trent should have squeezed it.  stll dont see it as browns fault...  that would also expalin his tighter to the los allignment, in that case his job would be to get under number 1 working towards the flats.... 

www.gsimmons85.blogspot.com

  • Login or register to post comments
September 16th, 2008 at 11:28 AM | thanks (Score:1)
Ziff72
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 5147

Tthanks for the input.  I kept hearing people trashing Brown and couldn't understand why.  He had some problems, but unless he got the defense wrong I couldn't have been to blame.  I think you explained it well.  Trent has to shoulder some of the blame, I thought it was a cover 3 with the corners bailing and Harrison in the middle.  That is why I blamed Harrison for not getting depth, but I can see it both ways.

I'm still a little frustrated by the lack of jamming the WR at the LOS.  I was hoping for more of that in Schafers defense.  I'm continually frustrated by the lack of contact by the db's early in the route..especially in college when you can beat em to hell before the ball is thrown.  I used to love playing cb in a zone or with safety help knowing I could mug the guy and disrupt the timing of the routes.  The faster the guy the closer I wanted to get... a little bump evens the speed up real fast.  Any thoughts on that gsimm??

 

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.