Annoying Fans & QB Sneak

Submitted by jcgary on

So I have two things that I really need to say something about:

 #1:  I sit in Section 16 at Michigan Stadium for every home game.  I have a buddy that likes to paint his body/face for the games and when necessary he gets really into the game and tries to help the team.  At the beginning of the Toledo game he stood up for one play in a primarily sitting section and an old guy 2 rows back told him to sit down.  He wanted to yell at the guy but I told him to just sit down and not say anything back.  I told him why pick a fight in the Toledo game when maybe during the MSU game in a couple weeks he could turn around and say, "I sat down for you the entire Toledo game so maybe you can stand up for this game."  My buddy agreed and sat down.  Then in the 4th quarter when we were trying to come back the section starting at field level began to stand and so my buddy stood up again for one play and at this point the stadium was getting as loud as it could for Toledo and the old man then yelled to sit down again.  So my friend now turned around and told him we were at a football game and not a polo or croquet match.  I kind of laughed and then my buddy sat down and said, "sorry but I had to say something."  I told him he was in the right there.  I always knew why we were a quiet stadium but I got to experience first hand the problem. 

 #2:  Ok this has more to do with play calling.  In the Illinois game we had the ball on the 1 yard line and McGuffie was left in to try to run the ball in and we lost yards.  Then we gained a couple back on the next play with Threet keeping the ball on a shotgun snap but he didnt get in after the replay.  So then I am thinking either put Kevin Grady in or QB sneak the ball.  What do we do?  A halfback sweep with McGuffie and get stopped.  And then on 4th and half a yard we had to throw the ball to score the TD.  I couldn't believe we didn't do a QB sneak but I just figured it was a one time problem.  But then during the Toledo game we needed one yard and instead of doing a QB sneak we hand the ball off 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage and get stopped.  Now I do not claim to know as much as the coaches and I still really like the off season hire but can anyone tell me the reason we do not QB sneak when we need a yard or less?  To me it makes no sense to run backwards 3-5 yards after the snap to hand the ball off especially when our line is not that great.  It just makes more sense to take the snap and more or less fall forward.  One friend of mine told me that we didn't QB sneak because we don't want our QB to get hurt but I don't buy that because we run an offense where the QB gets alot of carries. 

If anyone has any insight into the QB sneak thing please let me know because I would like other points of views because that is driving me crazy. 

Comments

Bronco648

October 13th, 2008 at 3:07 PM ^

that by handing off to a back allows time for the line to open holes and give the back more than one option where to go. Also, a back is more likely to get YAC than a QB is. Just my $0.02.

Magnus

October 13th, 2008 at 3:10 PM ^

Your friend is dumb. I have NEVER seen a quarterback get hurt on a quarterback sneak. Never. It doesn't happen. Nobody's hitting with any velocity. The only way he would get hurt is if someone poked him in the eye.

Farnxl Shpxre

October 13th, 2008 at 6:54 PM ^

Sorry, Magnus...it happens.  2006 - Colt McCoy against Kansas State

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2658325

"McCoy, who went up the middle from a yard out on fourth-and-goal to put Texas up 7-0, was buried under a pile of defenders on the play.

He was holding his right shoulder after the play and he later left the sideline."

PattyMax64

October 13th, 2008 at 3:15 PM ^

The reason we don't QB sneak is because that is all about getting the push up front. If our lineman can't push their line back at all then we will not get the yards we need. I think that we won't see it until our line is better.

jcgary

October 13th, 2008 at 3:29 PM ^

I can see what some of you are saying about needing the O-Line to be able to get a push but if you are on the 2 inch line to get into the endzone I would think that the QB should be able to get at least 2 inches or even a half a yard.

willywill9

October 13th, 2008 at 5:12 PM ^

He's been hanging out in Syracuse...perhaps looking for the next Mike Hart or his next job? But seriously, good point. If Threet and the O line can't push forward, then send out our D Line and Feagin, maybe they can move the ball a yard or two.

tricks574

October 14th, 2008 at 2:17 AM ^

They were hoping that the d-line would be looking for the sneak, and try to pinch down towards the center and in order to get as much force as possible in there. If they were to do this, it would give the play-side guard and tackle easy down blocks on their defenders. If you don't trust you're interior lineman to get a push on the d-lineman, why not try and take advantage of the defenses aggressiveness and use their own momentum against them. Sort of like Judo, or Jujitsu, I forget which one, and am far to lazy to do the Google search to clarify it. QB sneak is probably the right call most of the time, or something less complicated, but if RRod had seen his interior line being dominated all day, he had to try and make that matchup less important on that play.

Anonymous Coward (not verified)

October 14th, 2008 at 9:24 AM ^

Threet is around 6'6" and 230 lbs. If he can't squeeze a yard out of that frame, there are serious problems. We used to do it with Navarre and get 2-3 yards easily.