Home
supporting the Clint Eastwood State Fightin' John Waynes since 2011

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home Diaries Chrisgocomment's blog

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Brice's Recruiting
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Football Recruiting
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Get Yer Tickets

Find the best US sports betting sites on the web at onlinebetting.com. Sports wagering is getting more and more popular each year, so place your bets online today.

Enjoy online gambling? Why not try online poker or online roulette? Especially online roulette for real money. If you are going to play poker, then make sure you use the PartyPoker bonus code or PokerStars marketing code when signing up to these two poker giants.

If you're looking for online sports betting, Sportsbooks is your best option. Nothing else compares in variety and reliability.

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Always better to play free blackjack and free Flash slots online before making a purchase on any real online casino.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • College Football 101 (#100)
    cstalionsuofm - 5 hours ago
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings: 5-21-12
    Ace - 16 hours ago
  • College Football 101
    cstalionsuofm - 1 day ago
  • Space, bitches...wallpaper edition...
    jonvalk - 1 day ago
  • Nebraska Recruiting, Michigan and the rest of the B1G
    UMgradMSUdad - 1 day ago
  •  
  • 1 of 5
  • ››
more
  • Dear Mr. Woodson; Quit talking to Mark Snyder.
    Section 1 - 4,805 views
  • Nebraska Recruiting, Michigan and the rest of the B1G
    UMgradMSUdad - 2,878 views
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings: 5-21-12
    Ace - 2,776 views
  • The Blockhams in "SUMMER BREAK"
    Six Zero - 2,077 views
  • Beware History
    Blazefire - 2,073 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Dear Mr. Woodson; Quit talking to Mark Snyder.
    Section 1 - 131 comments
  • College Football 101
    cstalionsuofm - 42 comments
  • Conference Champions Only? A Playoff Case Study
    stephenrjking - 38 comments
  • Choosing Playoff Participants: Poll, Committee, or Autobid?
    oakapple - 27 comments
  • Nebraska Recruiting, Michigan and the rest of the B1G
    UMgradMSUdad - 9 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Darius Morris sighting
    13 replies
  • OT: Ways to Watch House tonight?
    27 replies
  • Bennie Joppru had a stroke
    18 replies
  • UM softball to play thursday/friday
    37 replies
  • META: Need 2 sponsor level names for HTTV
    69 replies
  • OT: Former WVU coach Bill Stewart dead
    28 replies
  • B1G payout nearly 25 million per team
    19 replies
  • OT - ESPN 30 For 30 announces vol. 2 (includes Clarett story)
    38 replies
  • OT- Titus Young punches Delmas, is asked not to show up to OTA's
    23 replies
  • DE Jonathan Allen to Alabama - Not Surprising
    23 replies
  • Lions Stafford bids 15k at Motts
    18 replies
  • Where are they now? 2009 Elite 11 QBs including Gardner, Bolden & Boisture
    37 replies
  • OT-Pam Ward removed from ESPN college football coverage
    86 replies
  • CFN / Scout posts their 2012 Michigan preview- good news?
    17 replies
  • 2015-2016 Big Ten football schedule released
    25 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT-Pam Ward removed from ESPN college football coverage
    86 replies
  • OT: Ways to Watch House tonight?
    27 replies
  • META: Need 2 sponsor level names for HTTV
    69 replies
  • UM softball to play thursday/friday
    37 replies
  • OT: Former WVU coach Bill Stewart dead
    28 replies
  • Darius Morris sighting
    13 replies
  • Where are they now? 2009 Elite 11 QBs including Gardner, Bolden & Boisture
    37 replies
  • Bennie Joppru had a stroke
    18 replies
  • B1G payout nearly 25 million per team
    19 replies
  • CFN / Scout posts their 2012 Michigan preview- good news?
    17 replies
  • OT- Titus Young punches Delmas, is asked not to show up to OTA's
    23 replies
  • Dallas Morning News: Big 12 Source said "We Might Be Moving Toward 4 Superconferences"
    96 replies
  • OT - ESPN 30 For 30 announces vol. 2 (includes Clarett story)
    38 replies
  • Lions Stafford bids 15k at Motts
    18 replies
  • DE Jonathan Allen to Alabama - Not Surprising
    23 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • Ty Isaac to USC
    328 replies
  • OT: Friday Afternoon "Whatcha Doing?" Open Posbang Thread
    252 replies
  • DAB: Alternate FB Uni Plan Forthcoming
    150 replies
  • MICHIGAN SOFTBALL: REGIONAL CHAMPS
    147 replies
  • Not so cryptic update from Tremendous re: Maurice Hurst Jr.?
    117 replies
  • Experiencing the Big House
    116 replies
  • OT - Grantland on the Girl/Baseball issue from last week
    114 replies
  • Softball vs. Louisville open thread
    111 replies
  • Denard in #1 Jersey?
    98 replies
  • OT: Champions League final discussion & live thread
    98 replies
  • Devin Gardner changes Number
    96 replies
  • Dallas Morning News: Big 12 Source said "We Might Be Moving Toward 4 Superconferences"
    96 replies
  • Scout revamps their player rankings
    95 replies
  • 5 star RB Davis to USC
    95 replies
  • Roy Roundtree to wear #21
    94 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Former U-M tight end Bennie Joppru, 32, recovering from stroke

    best wishes

    2 comments
  • Michigan's Lewan maturing into a leader

    but what about the bike?

    1 comments
  • Relegation in College Football!

    amazingly, we don't go down in 2008.

    2 comments
  • Newest commit Copp discusses high-school football career, decision to pursue hockey

    “We’ve had season tickets (at Yost Ice Arena) ever since I was born,” he said. “It’s always been the dream to play there.”

    0 comments
  • FACES OF DESPAIR: BIG TEN MEETINGS

    "The wolf is the only constant, Adam. It takes care of its own and lives in the wound called the world. She rips it anew each day for the blood she needs to survive."

    0 comments
  • DTotD: An overhead kick to the throat in MLS

    Justin Meram didn't just score

    0 comments
  • Devin Booker blowing up, sticking to roots

    offer coming in a month, most likely

    0 comments
  • Versatile Nik Stauskas ready to do a bit of everything for the Michigan basketball team

    "I had so many Michigan fans and other people messaging me on Twitter and saying 'I hope you're ready to play point guard. I was a little bit worried."

    1 comments
  • Eso Akunne of Michigan Wolverines holds memories of mom close

    "Come home. We need to talk about mom."

    0 comments
  • Get Familiar: Michigan verbal Taco Charlton

    Enjoys things with "game" in the title.

    2 comments
  • Scouting Video: Derrick Walton at 2012 Spiece Run ‘n Slam

    sounds like all three Michigan commits are improving their stock so far

    0 comments
  • WTKA 1050AM Mott Takeover Schedule

    all of the people

    0 comments
  • Borges on Alabama game: Preparation 'has already begun'

    I'd hope so

    0 comments
  • Glen Steele tribute - YouTube

    one of the greatest names of all time #ofalltime

    1 comments
  • Quitting on Bo Schembechler was no easy task for baseball Hall of Fame-bound Barry Larkin

    Larkin said Schembechler scattered papers with a pound of his fist and "almost climbed over the desk" to point and tell him, “No one comes to the University of Michigan and plays stinkin’ baseball!”

    4 comments

The 85 Scholar Question

By Chrisgocomment — July 28th, 2008 at 11:51 AM — 2 comments
Filed under:
  • alabama
  • Nick Saban
  • Scholarships

I found an interesting write up on that "Bryant Scholarship" thing at the Bama Sports Report, which I don't think was shown here. 

Quick note: I'm not trying to rehash this stupid blog war with Bama about the Scholarship thing, I just don't think this particular aspect of it was ever detailed.  After reading the author's post I found it compelling and wanted to share it:

http://www.bamasportsreport.com/2008/07/01/the-bryant-scholarship-the-nu...

In brief, the Bryant Scholarship is awarded to the children of any former player or coach of Bear Bryant.  It is not football related, it isn't even an athletic scholarship.   Also, it’s really, really confusing....

What that boils down to is that a recruited player, as Scott Deaton was, only counts towards the football scholarship numbers when he plays in a game. If he never plays in a game, regardless of practice participation, he never counts towards the scholarship numbers. If he ever plays, even 1 snap, then he counts. Because Scott has not played, he does not count against Bama’s 85 limit.

If a player is not recruited, he does not count, regardless of game action.

Is this the same as other scholarship players?  I see plenty of Michigan players on the sidelines that I've never heard of, I assume they are on scholarship but never play.  If we have a guy on scholarship that never plays a down, does he go against our 85 limit or not?  I assumed that that player counts, but with this wacky scholarship you can basically have a guy suit up as an insurance policy.  Weird.

I find it strange that you can recruit one of these kids, give them a scholarship, but then not have that scholarship count against the limit.  This basically gives the coach the ability to maneuver around the 85 limit based on this rule.  If the player doesn't play, well then you can have one more player on scholarship to take his place.

Now here's the interesting part, incoming freshman Wesley Neighbors is the son of a former Bryant player.  In short, if Saban needs to knock his incoming class down by one, all he has to do is not play this kid for two years.......Bama Sports Report:

If the decision is made to do that by having Wesley Neighbors take advantage of the Bryant Scholarship, then the coaches have to be absolutely certain that he will not play for his first 2 years on campus. They also have to be prepared to have room to count him towards the 85 limit if he plays at any point in time after 2009.

They could give Neighbors a regular scholarship and count him as part of the 85, or they could put him on Bryant Scholarship and sit him for two years, at which point he will then count against the previously signed class...uhhh... my brain hurts....

If the Bryant Scholarship recipient plays during his 1st two years on campus, then he counts towards the recruiting class that he enrolled with. If he does not play during those 2 years, then he does not count as an initial scholarship - again, only counting towards the 85 when he plays, if he is classified as a recruited player.

So there you go.  With this Bryant thing Saban can play around with the numbers a little more than the average coach.

So.....why doesn't Michigan do this?  Why not have a “Schembechler Scholarship”?  Braylon could have been on that.  Woolfolk too.  If the NCAA is ok with this where is Michigan on this one?  It’s a really interesting loop hole in the scholarship talk.  

Not that it needs to be brought up again, and I’m not saying this is bad or good, I just thought it was an interesting subject.

  • Chrisgocomment's blog
  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:00 PM | Yeah, I thought about that (Score:1)
Brian
Brian's picture
Joined: 05/26/2008
MGoPoints: 50774
Yeah, I thought about that when Pat Fitzgerald rattled off guys he was hoping would start in the secondary and listed not one but two defensive backs whose dads played for Michigan but couldn't swing a scholarship. Neighbors himself had a Georgia Tech offer. These are useful players that Alabama can spend half a scholarship on, and one of two things should happen: 1) the NCAA should ban the practice or 2) we need to get ourselves a Bo/Mo/Llo scholarship.

MGoBlog |  HTTV 2010 | email

  • Login or register to post comments
July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 PM | If the NCAA doesn't ban it, (Score:1)
Tacopants
Tacopants's picture
Joined: 07/06/2008
MGoPoints: 2204
If the NCAA doesn't ban it, every school that has the need should get one of these scholarships. Think about it, you can bring in a 2/3 star who is not expected to make an immediate impact, let them train and practice for 2 years, then re-evaluate and see if they can hack it on the 85 man roster. If they can't, coaches can say they were given a legitamite shot, and nobody has to go around fudging medical disabilites, and nobody loses their scholarship. If they want to transfer, its all on them, theres no pressure to get under the 85 limit. For the players, it gives them a shot at a Michigan legacy that they may not have gotten. As long as they/their parents understand this it should be fine. For the school/coaches, it gives them a backup they can use if they need if they're approaching the 25/85 limit, a free 2 year evaluation period on a player, and insurance in case a member of their class sticks up Blue Front or something. It's a win-win for big schools, not so much for little schools. And when other big schools implement it, expect it to be banned immediately.
  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.