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2012 Turnover Analysis – Updated Thru Air Force

By Enjoy Life — September 11th, 2012 at 3:30 PM — 10 comments
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Preseason Prediction: Michigan will end the year with a +8 Turnover Margin (TOM) or better (2011 was +7).  The prediction for TOM for M for this year is based on the prediction that M will be a very good team again this year and is not based on the actual TOM of last year. (Very good teams will have a TOM of +5 or better.)

Synopsis for Turnovers: M ended the game with a TOM of –1. That is 2 games in a row with a negative TOM while last year there were only 4 games with negative TOMs (SDSU, NW, Purdue, Iowa). Michigan has a TOM of –4 for the year (ranked #94). Denard was charged with another interception but it was clearly Vincent Smith's poor play that resulted in the tipped ball and subsequent interception. Even with the charged interception, Denard dramatically reduced his interception ratio from 11% in the first game to just 4% in this game. Air Force defied all odds for a triple option offense and ended the game with no lost fumbles (last year AFA was #107  nationally with 15 lost fumbles).

After 2 games, M has not fumbled once (ranked #1) but also has no interception takeaways (ranked #76).

 imageSynopsis for Expected Point (EP) Analysis: M lost the TO battle but won the game (approximately 17% of all college football games are won by the team that loses the TO battle). imageWithout TOs, M would have won by approximately 6.84 points instead of 6 points.

Since Air Force scored a touchdown on the drive after the TO, why is the EP so small? This is where any analysis that relies on "what if" suppositions (as many analyzes do) may provide a less than satisfying result. It was 3-3 on the M44. If the pass had been incomplete, M would have punted on 4-3 at their own 44. Thus, M did not lose any EP because they would have still given up the ball on the next play. AFA took over on their own 44 instead of at their own 20 (assuming a net punt of 36 yards). Therefore AFA only gained the advantage of 24 yards of field position which results in just 0.84 EP. If the assumption is that Smith would have caught the pass for a first down then M would have lost an additional 2.35 EP for a total of 3.19 lost EP.

(See the Section on Gory Details below for how the adjustment for Expected Points (EP) is calculated.)

imageNational Rankings: There is almost unanimous consensus that games against non-FBS opponents distort the statistics and muck up the analysis of data. Therefore, all rankings include games between two FBS teams ONLY and are from TeamRankings except for forced fumbles which is from CFBStats. imageThe four columns with *** show the best correlation to offense and defense (per Advanced NFL stats).

The Gory Details

Details for Turnovers: Here is overall summary for all games by player (data in yellow was affected by this week's game).

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Expected Point (EP) Analysis: Basically, the probability of scoring depends on the line of scrimmage for the offense. Therefore, the impact of a TO also depends on the yard line where the TO is lost and the yard line where the TO is gained. Each turnover may result in an immediate lost opportunity for the team committing the TO and a potential gain in field position by the opponent. Both of these components can vary dramatically based upon the down when the TO occurred, the yards the TO is returned, and whether the TO was a fumble or an interception.

Here are the details for the game.

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The analysis is a bit tricky because: (A) the TO may directly result in lost EP for the offense but (B) only modifies the EP for the team gaining the TO because the team gaining the TO would have gotten another possession even without the TO (due to a punt, KO after a TD, KO after a field goal, etc.). The Net EP Gain must take into account the potential EP gain without the TO. The EP gain without the turnover is based on where the field position would have been for the next possession if the TO had not occurred.

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image_thumb17_thumb_thumb_thumb_thum[2]The expected point calculations are based on data from Brian Fremeau at BCFToys (he also posts at Football Outsiders). Fremeau's data reflects all offensive possessions played in 2007-2011 FBS vs. FBS games. I "smoothed" the actual data.

Here is a summary of the smoothed expected points.

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September 11th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | Air Force did fumble twice, (Score:2)
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Air Force did fumble twice, but they recovered it both times. Again, as all of the analysis seems to point to, turnovers == random.  Yes I would love to see Michigan win the TO battle a few times this year. The game against UMass won't count on the statistics, then we get to ND. Thru 2 games what is ND TO ratio? That might give us a clue, last year they were horrible, I doubt they can repeat that type of ratio again.

Still interesting to see.

EDIT: Ooops, UMass is FBS this year so the stats will count from them, currently they are a +1.5 TO margin even though they have lost both games badly. ND has a +2 TO margin also...Michigan needs to win this battle some this year or it will hurt.

 

 

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 7:03 PM | I'll Keep Saying It (Score:2 Normal)
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Nope, TOs are not random. Very good teams have good TO ratios, very poor teams have poor TO ratios.

If TOs were random:

1) There would be a 50/50 chance that every team (including M) would have a negative TOM every year. M has had a positive TOM 10 of the last 14 years and that includes the 3 RR disaster years (when M was a very bad team).

2) M has not been a very good team so far this year. Therefore, I am not surprised that the TOM has been poor. If they do not improve significantly, the win/loss record will not be good and the TOM will not be good either.

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September 11th, 2012 at 10:37 PM | #1 (Score:2 Normal)
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works against you. so we were a very bad team during the 3 RR years, and yet we still had a positive TOM? how does that support the idea that "very good teams ahve good TO ratios, and very poor teams have poor TO ratios?"

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September 12th, 2012 at 10:33 AM | Check It Out (Score:1)
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Check out the data -- M had double digit NEGATIVE turnover margins in every one RR's 3 years.

So, it is totally consistent with the theory that poor teams have poor TOMs.

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September 11th, 2012 at 10:44 PM | Who's disagreeing with you? (Score:1)
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I don't think any responsible analyst believes that turnovers are totally random, but unlike most other measurables, they do have a significant random component. For instance, Air Force benefited from an interception in the game but did nothing to cause it. No Falcon defender was anywhere near Vincent Smith. The defender did need to catch the ball after Smith tipped it, but it wasn't any remarkable catch.

Players can be coached to cause fumbles (or for that matter to avoid them), but once the ball is on the ground, it's totally random which team is lucky enough to fall on it. I don't think there's any evidence that recovering fumbles (as opposed to causing them) is coachable. Interceptions are a bit different, because many of them are caused by coverage or pressure, both of which require some ability. But as this game showed, sometimes even interceptions are lucky.

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September 12th, 2012 at 3:17 PM | But Denard threw an (Score:2)
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But Denard threw an inaccurate pass that Smith wasn't ready for and it was tipped into the air.    A more accurate pass would not have been picked off.   Air Force was in the right place at the right time, but it was not a fluke that the ball ended up being tipped in the air.

 

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 PM | I think? (Score:1)
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You added the 0.84 to AFA instead of subtractting it? I think? Equationz n numberz confuze me

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September 12th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | Oooops (Score:1)
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Yes, you are right.

Score without TOs should be: M 31 --- AFA 24.16

Thanks

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September 12th, 2012 at 2:54 AM | Vote for Denard! (Score:1)
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espnallamerica.com

Currently they have his stats in from last years Notre Dame game and they have Matt Barkley's as throwing 7 TD's instead of 6. They must have relegated Mark May to updating the website. If I wasn't such a homer I would vote for Browning but we need Denard back in the Heisman hunt.

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