WolvinLA not intelligent?
He and I don't see eye to eye politically, but he's proven to be far from "not intelligent."
For us in-staters, particularly in the Metro-Detroit area, MSU is a huge rival, above Notre Dame. The Detroit papers and radio are all Sparty crazy, and we're all surrounded by MSU grads.
Outside of the state -- not so much. Oh, any sports fan knows Michigan State the same way we're aware that Oklahoma State or Mississippi State exist. But drop down to the average joe, and they've heard of Michigan, but not State. I saw a guy in Seattle with an MSU sweatshirt on, and being with my Little Brother (who went to State), we approached him and said what's up -- you from Michigan? He answered, "no, but I like the Wolverines."
That's one story. There have been many more. Michigan is an international brand -- we had a high school exchange student from France who came here on a mission to pick up maize and blue gear, because it was all the rage with the Americanized teens (kind of like Americans going around London asking for Manchester United schlock, which by the way is a no-no).
All this is a way of saying be careful who you question. I respect a rival fan coming on these boards and providing a break from groups that can become insular and self-convincing, etc. But be careful who you go dissing or calling little kids -- we like WolvinLA.