Many of you won't like to read this but I am betting it's Sheridan. It will be up to Tate to pry that away from Nick.
Update: Carlos Brown fastest on the team with a ~4.38/40 40.
I read something on the Scout free board that indicated Sheridan would probably be the starter.
I forgot how funny that was. "Deadliest catch without the crabs, we're runnin' out a gas, call the Arabs!" That is pure comedic genius. As is the rest of the song.
If you knew anything about football the obvious answer is Sheridan. It's called respect.
Explain to me how it's obvious?
And, what is called respect?
i think the norm is that you give the returning starter the nod over the incoming freshmen. the coaching staff has to send the message that everyone gets a fair chance if they work hard enough and that nothing is assumed about someone based on their play in high school and status as hotshot recruit. its good for team chemistry. also you don't want to give any freshmen the sense of entitlement. its all about establishing a culture of earning respect and playing time.
obviously in this case, the coaching staff expects tate to beat sheridan out. but let him prove it.
I believe there are some/many not part of the program (ie FANS) that just thought Tate would get the nod. Sam Webb is one who thinks Tate would be the one to get the first reps if I understood him correctly this morning on the radio.
If you knew anything about football, you'd know that Nick Sheridan was not very good last year. If he takes the first snap with the 1st time in the spring, it's only because he's a veteran. But the suggestion that he's in any way entitled to more reps with the first team is absurd. Regardless, I don't know why the answer is "obvious."
I'd like to see Tate Forcier and/or Denard Robinson get the majority of the reps with the 1st team in the spring. Whether or not they're ready, one of them is likely to be starting for us very early next season. The more reps they get before that happens, to better.
I am talking about spring practice to which D Rob won't be part of. My gut feeling is that D Rob will be in over his head when he comes in. This is Tate's to lose. But don't be surprised to see Nick playing this season. The QB situation is still dicey for U of M.
if by football, you mean "union" then sure it's all about..umm..respect.
said that he was going to give everyone equall snaps in spring practice. Sheridan might get snaps first, but it will be spread out equally.
Did he say this before or after Threet transferred?
He said it both before and after. He said he wants some good competition.
last year also. it really doesn't matter who gets the first reps.
Our fastest person, Carlos Brown only runs a 4.38 40 time? No wonder why we were 3-9. We don't have that SEC speed. We need to get guys with sub 3 second 40 times like every team in the south.
I don't care how fast a kid runs the 40 if he doesn't have football speed. A fast 40 time doesn't do much when you get caught in the backfield or LOS. Mike Hart proved you don't have to be fast to be a dangerous RB. Vision and balance, imho, is what makes for a good RB regardless of speed. Sure speed helps when in the open field but that's not how FB is played. These kids need to have vision, see the hole, and hit it. And having a strong OL helps a ton.
I agree with you. Barry Sanders also wasn't super fast for an NFL RB.
I was just joking. Hence the sub 3 second 40 time.
I would love to see him healthy and actually on the field next year. He looked really solid in the Northwestern game last season and he was not even full strength. Hopefully this fall Brown will be able to contribute and display his full potential.
Speed isn't really a problem at any position for us, except perhaps outside wide receiver. Our running backs, linebackers, slot guys, safeties, corners, and our soon-to-be QB's all have speed. And our defensive line isn't too slow, either. The problem is experience and discipline.
I would say that is probably correct that Nick will take first reps at spring practice. RR is ot allowed to see what TF is doing so out of respect I think Nick will see the ball first, but based on what I have seen of him (TF) and heard of him I would say that he will be getting the starting job by the time the spring ball game rolls around.
"If you knew anything about football, you'd know that Nick Sheridan was not very good last year. If he takes the first snap with the 1st time in the spring, it's only because he's a veteran. But the suggestion that he's in any way entitled to more reps with the first team is absurd. Regardless, I don't know why the answer is "obvious."
I'd like to see Tate Forcier and/or Denard Robinson get the majority of the reps with the 1st team in the spring. Whether or not they're ready, one of them is likely to be starting for us very early next season. The more reps they get before that happens, to better."
You're retarded. Denard Robinson isn't in A2 for the spring.
Doesn't common sense dictate that Forcier is going to get the majority of snaps? I mean, even with Threet gone, does anybody really think Sheridan will be anything other than a backup come fall? I've got to think that the coaching staff's number one goal in the spring will be bringing Forcier up to speed as much as possible before Fall camp.
"I've got to think that the coaching staff's number one goal in the spring will be bringing Forcier up to speed as much as possible before Fall camp."
You're right. And who does Forcier need to be brought "up to speed" to compete with?
Not too many people are saying that Sheridan will be our de facto starter. What they're saying is that it would be a slap in the face to Sheridan if Rodriguez said at the very first spring practice, "Okay, freshman - you've been in college for two months. Jump in there!"
At least in spring practice, Sheridan and Forcier will be the top two quarterbacks. The first snaps with the first stringers should go to Sheridan. An equal number of snaps should be given to both players.
After spring practice, perhaps common sense tells us that Forcier will get more and more snaps. But when you have a returning starter, you don't necessarily just hand the starting job to a precocious freshman.
I see what you are saying. Actually, I hope they do that.
"But when you have a returning starter, you don't necessarily just hand the starting job to a precocious freshman."
If Steven Threet were still here, I'd be in total agreement. This is kind of a moot point, seeing as we only have 3 QBs on the roster for Spring, so there are plenty of snaps to go around. But I don't think there's going to be any competition, frankly, now that Threet is gone, either now or in August. Sheridan may have started some games last year, but I don't think that experience will count for much when there is (or should be, anyway) such a talent gap between him and Forcier.
I'm of the mind that come September Forcier will have had as much experience in Rodriguez's offense as Sheridan/Threet did last year, the difference being that his skills set fits the system.
It would make sense that they should be getting Forcier ready, not trying to show leadership by preparing Sheridan to start. I get it with the "upperclassmen should get the starting job" thing, but not if he has no real experience with this offense. Think back to 2004. No one knew if it would be the incoming freshman(Chad Henne!)or Matt Guiteriz. Lloyd went with Chad and look what happened! They went to the Rose bowl and almost knocked off a much better Texas team! If Rich isn't busy making sure Tate is ready, then he's nuts. No way should Sheridan start come next season.
Lloyd "went with Chad" only because Gutierrez tore his shoulder in Fall camp
really? I don't remember that. I learned something new today.
Texas was "superior" to us that year, at QB for sure, but we should have won that game and would have if it were not for some truly criminal tackling
Or if Ernest Shazor had moved his left hand literally an inch to the side on the field goal attempt.
Part of learning the system is watching it run correct. TF will watch Sheridan run the play before he gets the chance to run it himself. This will continue for the first few days. Then you will see who gets more of the snaps. They will get equal time until TF has watched it for a bit. Fall he will get almost all of the snaps with DR watching.
Just out of curiosity - do you have a source on the 40 time? Is this from spring workouts?
The first snap will be taken by the Coner. It will be the tiniest of first steps toward his initial Heisman.
Last year at this time that was the daily rumour du jour. I know we're all expecting the dawn of the Tate era, but given the dearth of qbs on the depth chart, I'm a little curious that there hasn't been any discussion of Brown taking snaps?????
I would say that the fact he didn't see any snaps last year while the team wallowed in the depths of desperation speaks volumes about his inability to qb and the coaches' opinions thereof.
That's probably why he isn't being mentioned this time around.
Rodriguez was asked this question today and he said:
"That'd be Nick Sheridan. I think Nick has done a great job of improving his knowledge of the offense."