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oriental andrew's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 20029

No "Great," just plain ol' Lakes and Plains for me.

Cultural Enrichment's picture
Joined: 12/17/2010
MGoPoints: 64

Lakes and Planes.... I like it.  I change my vote to that.

oriental andrew's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 20029

so, you like:



Or is it


Tim Waymen's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1847

I've always liked how the Atlantic Coastal Conference has the Atlantic and Coastal divisions.  Taking a cue from the ACC, I propose the Big and Ten divisions.

Yes, that was a joke, but I challenge you to find a better name from the list of candidates.  Can't?  Yep, that's what I thought.

MaizeSombrero's picture
Joined: 07/19/2008
MGoPoints: 2064

I think this makes a lot of sense. Here's how I see the breakdown:

Big: Michigan, Ohio State

Ten: Everyone else.

M-Wolverine's picture
Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 42199

I actually thought this too; that it couldn't be any worse than what they came up with. It may be silly, but everyone would know why they came up with it (plus accentuates that they're a conference with 12 teams named "Ten" and don't give a fuck). Though I voted for Lakes and Rivers. There was at least some geographical sense to that. (And while it'd be awesome, I can see how Bo/Woody is a non-starter).

Zone Left's picture
Joined: 07/03/2008
MGoPoints: 16278

Nerd it up:

P & Not P

Edit: It actually makes sense. We've probably got the highest overall university rankings of the FBS leagues (maybe PAC-12).

Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 95259

We're way way above the Pac now, according to last year's average rankings of the major rankers (I still have my spreadsheet from the Willy Wonka diary). They're mintier at the top since the California schools are all up there with or even ahead of Northwestern and Michigan, but after that there's a precipitous decline while the Big Ten is mostly bunched up in the next sub-group. Most of their conference wouldn't beat the bottom of the Big Ten (which is now Nebraska by a decent margin).

Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 594

Stanford > Northwestern

Cal > Michigan

UCLA > Wisconsin

USC > Illinois

Washington > Indiana

Oregon > Penn State

Arizona > Minnesota

Colorado > Purdue


Their top 8 school's are all better than our top 8 school's. I graduated from Michigan, but I can admit that academically the Pac-12 is much better than the Big Ten as an overall conference. 

Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 95259

Agree - Oregon isn't in the discussion; it's lower than any Big Ten school. Also: Arizona is under Minnesota.

marc_from_novi's picture
Joined: 02/02/2009
MGoPoints: 1656

Manifest and Destiny seem to fit 

Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 95259

That's a neat idea.

I tried to figure out a first nation naming convention (figuring there might be a Huron/Ojibwe split?) but the "borders" of historic linguistic and tribal divisions did not at all fit the divisional breakup. There's a split between Algonquin and Sioux but that split's at Lake Michigan. I hadn't thought of using the pantheon of gods. That's brilliant! It's like if Greece had an Apollo Division and a Hephaestus Division.

Of course it'll never fly -- thanks generations of American forebears who paid mocking tribute to our aboriginal cultures rather than, as usually happened in history, embracing the past of the place as the past of the present population.

Will Vereene's picture
Joined: 10/15/2010
MGoPoints: 83

Non Biased Approach: The Dallas Exception


Ever since I can remember, theDallas Cowboys of the NFL have been in the NFC East, even though their geographic location puts the in the south or perhaps even the west.

For argument sakes, I'll refer to this as the Dallas Scenario. With all the negative feedback (expected or not),

I suggest that the Divisions be named just North and South. The North (IA, MI, MSU, MN, NU, NE) with all schools residing above the 40.4°N. The South (OSU, PSU, IN, PU, IL, WI) with the exception of WI, are all below 40.4°N. WI would then be regarded as the Dallas Exception. The NFL will have set precedence and the geographic location names will be more "accepted" the second time around.

ST3's picture
Joined: 09/11/2010
MGoPoints: 32644

North and South are much closer to getting it accurate geographically than East and West. I never understood the East and West names. Wisconsin is in the southern part of the state, so it sort of works for them too. Switching Wisconsin and Illinois would make the North too strong, so I like keeping it like it is (division-wise) but changing to North and South so I can remember who is in which division. 

Joined: 07/22/2008
MGoPoints: 3793

The most important thing is for the names to be easily associated with the schools in the divisions, so you can just say the division name without having to remind people of which teams are in which division. The only way to do this is to use geography, which doesn't have to be perfect. The new Pac-12 called its divisions North and South even though Utah and Colorado in the South are north of Cal and Stanford in the North. I think people will remember that the NorCal schools are wi th the OR/WA schools, which are obviously in the North. If you call the B1G divisions North and South, the only illogical thing people will have to remember is that Wisconsin is in the South. East and West are messier because people would have to remember that the MI schools and NW are all in the West, but at least Neb and Iowa are in the West and PSU and OSU in the East.

Leaders and Leg ends are meaningless and might as well be Tweedledum and Tweedledee, but the other proposed names aren't helpful either. Even Lakes and Plains won't work because most people will assume that Nebraska and Iowa have to be in the Plains and the Michigan schools have to be in the Lakes, and of course they are all in the same division. 

San Diego Mick's picture
Joined: 05/11/2011
MGoPoints: 18472

That's what I was going to suggest, North & South.

I think Wisky and Neb are the only two in their respective divisions that screw that up, 5/6 in each division seems like enough of a reason to me.

Additionally, it almost seems like The B1G purposely put us in the Legends Division instead of the Leaders, which is our motto, you know?

UMxWolverines's picture
Joined: 03/01/2009
MGoPoints: 33716

Would have been easier if they didn't jumble teams up in the first place.

Undefeated dream season of 1992's picture
Joined: 09/17/2008
MGoPoints: 1560

Pioneer -- for exploration of land, science, etc. Sort of helpful mnemonic to remember that it includes the P, I, O teams (except Iowa): Purdue, Penn State, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, and (dammit!) Wisconsin

Industry -- I wish I could come up with something about manufacturing, making stuff, that used an M, but I'm stumped. Industry isn't great but it again helps you remember it has Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern (and Michigan, Michigan St., Minnesota)!


Silly Goose's picture
Joined: 04/17/2010
MGoPoints: 882

Lancaster and York. Championship game is called War of the Roses.

Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 95259

I'd be down for calling the Championship game the War of the Roses either way.

The house names aren't very descriptive. Is there anything profoundly Lancastrian about Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Indiana, Illinois and Purdue? I guess, maybe, they're more old school or something? And you know Minnesota's been shacking up with Liz Woodville, eh eh?

If we did this it should be stipulated that whoever's the Lancastrians has to choose a player to deliver Henry V's Crispin's Day speech before the champ game. Make it happen!

Tshimanga Cowabunga's picture
Joined: 08/09/2009
MGoPoints: 1133

Ok. Who voted for Leaders and Legends? Seriously guys...

Don's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 71158

Paterno and Stagg Divisions.

Joined: 07/05/2008
MGoPoints: 6995

Grant and Sherman divisions.  Name the divisions after important historical figures from the Big Ten footprint.  Grant was from Illinois; Sherman from Ohio.

If the divisions are named "Bo" and "Woody",  I think the only acceptable way to proceed would be if Michigan were in the "Woody" division and Ohio State in the "Bo" division.  I would also prefer "Yost" and "Stagg" to "Bo" and "Woody".  Let's not pretend that history started in the 1950s.

GunnersApe's picture
Joined: 11/19/2009
MGoPoints: 6677

Doesn't matter, B1G will have to realign once super conference come online. For argument sake (let's not start a war) suppose ND, Rutgers, Mizzo, Syaracuse join, how the hell do you split that up? PSU has to be living off borrowed time once JoePa corpse finally stops moving and do they step down a peg? Just saying logically UM will have the tougher road. Iowa will always be Iowa, Nebraska should be power, I'm not sure Wisconsin and PSU will be able to maintain. Now throw ND on our side and if OSU can rebound from the JT "shitshow" in five years they set pretty good in picking up RUT/SYR. Ah hell I quit.  

Roanman's picture
Joined: 07/08/2008
MGoPoints: 770


Joined: 11/21/2009
MGoPoints: 5360

I'm going with "East'ish" and "West'ish"

The Squid's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 310

North and South. Easy, simple, obvious, non-stupid.

But my real vote is anything besides Leaders & Legends. Steel & Coal, Corn & Rust, H20 & C55H72O5N4MG-CH3. Anything else.

BlueDragon's picture
Joined: 11/14/2010
MGoPoints: 21724

Oh boy, organic chemistry (I think)!  I'm looking forward to getting 'initiated' this summer.

Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 594

How about the Foot and Ball divisions? Then we could have fun stuff like the foot conference kicking the shit out of the ball conference. 

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