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What would happen if Turner and Witty don't qualify?

It's possible that Adrian Witty and Justin Turner won't get past the Clearinghouse. I like to think about hypotheticals, so what do you think the team would do to fix the depth issues at cornerback?

Our only three scholarship cornerbacks would be Boubacar Cissoko, Donovan Warren, and J.T. Floyd. After that it would be Zach Johnson, probably.

Would we move Woolfolk back to CB? Would we move James Rogers back to CB? Would we stick with what we've got.

Personally, I think moving Rogers would have the least negative effect on the team. He's not getting much playing time on offense, and he would have some time to adjust back to playing cornerback. If cornerbacks get hurt, it's usually a quad or hamstring strain, since they're not quite as physically involved as many other players; therefore, Cissoko and Warren are less likely to get injured than, say, a defensive lineman, offensive lineman, or running back.

Zach Johnson is also a good special teams player, so I think he could be adequate as a corner as long as Greg Robinson doesn't leave him on an island.

Hypothetical depth chart (that I hope isn't necessary):

Warren
Cissoko
Floyd
Rogers
Johnson
Woolfolk (if there are massive injuries)

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:09 AM | With that depth chart at (Score:1)
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With that depth chart at corner, we are fucked.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:12 AM | correction, we would be (Score:1)
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correction, we would be super-fucked

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:39 AM | Not getting Turner would be (Score:1)
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Not getting Turner would be like being kicked in the balls and then dumped by a super hot girl. It's just a really bad feeling.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:10 AM | In other words, if Warren or (Score:1)
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In other words, if Warren or Cissoko go down with an injury or don't play well, we're screwed.

My stomach aches.....

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:25 PM | Sheridan at (Score:1)
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corner/safety!!

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August 6th, 2009 at 2:27 PM | If JT Turner doesn't qualify (Score:1)
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If JT Turner doesn't qualify I would expect Michael Williams to play the nickel back spot while rotating in another safety (assuming he even starts at safety). If Cissoko or Warren get hurt though, we're probably screwed given that Williams is probably not suited to play out and out corner.

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August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 AM | I think if Turner (Score:1)
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does not qualify, then Woolfork would slide back to CB and our safeties would be Williams and Vlad. Or Woolfork remains at safety and he slides down to nickel back when Williams/Vlad come on the field and replace him at safety. Either of these could work as long as Woolfork doen't seem overwhelmed if he has to move back and forth. Hopefully Woolfork is an intelligent football player who knows the responsibilities of the entire secondary.

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August 7th, 2009 at 10:47 AM | Troy WoolfoLk. He's the son (Score:1)
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Troy WoolfoLk. He's the son of Michigan's #5 all-time leading rusher, Butch Woolfolk. Who played many years for the Giants.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:16 AM | I think that we would see kittens... (Score:1)
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Lots and LOTS of kittens... :(

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:31 AM | Dammit. Before hearing this (Score:1)
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Dammit. Before hearing this news, I thought I was going to be able to sleep this weekend.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:17 AM | a solution (Score:1)
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I advice you all to start having young boys with 4.3 speed as soon as possible.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:35 AM | I prefer 3.9 speed. So make (Score:1)
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I prefer 3.9 speed. So make sure you let your wives' know

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:17 AM | scheme to assauge the depth issues: (Score:1)
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play a 5-5-1. or a goal line D all the time.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:26 AM | When I was 10, I used to use (Score:1)
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When I was 10, I used to use only Punt Block formation on Madden for every play. Runs were always stuffed, and the QB would be sacked before he could get rid of the ball. I suggest we use Punt Block formation 100% of the time on defense.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:47 PM | Yes this only makes sense. We (Score:1)
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Yes this only makes sense.

We should also only throw long bombs down the field.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:20 AM | Maybe Denard will be a (Score:1)
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Maybe Denard will be a two-way player for us as a freshman.

Just kidding

Maybe.....

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:23 AM | I would expect the teams we face to run a lot of sweeps . . . (Score:1)
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or any other play that physical engages the CBs.

We may be out of CBs by the time the big ten season starts.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:46 AM | Why it's not like the teams are running a gauntlet on us? (Score:1)
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They aren't really in cahoots if anything I think that we'd see a lot of passing plays and play-action to get the inexperienced safeties to bite.

****EDIT*** and again why is this -1?? I'm starting to get sick of this shit

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:28 AM | I just expect our opponents (Score:1)
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I just expect our opponents to spread the field with 3 or 4 WRs and force us to put our walk-ons out there on the field to play.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:25 AM | Florida recruited him as a (Score:1)
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Florida recruited him as a db. If it's late in the season and one of Cissoko/Warren get injured he'd probably be give a shot. Only if its late in the season and Tate wins the QB job outright.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:27 AM | I thought they recruited him (Score:1)
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I thought they recruited him in a Percy Harvin type role with a shot to compete at QB?

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August 6th, 2009 at 2:16 PM | I don't see that happening (Score:1)
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I don't see that happening unless it is clear to the coaches that he won't pan out at QB, and Sheridan/Furrha is way ahead in the battle for #2. He would have very little knowledge of the defense and zero practice as a DB. If it was late in the season he probably wouldn't see the field for the rest of the year anyway.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:25 AM | We institute a draft... (Score:1)
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every able-bodied man will go through a Barwis-ian workout after which they will be assigned a position that they will work at for a term of 1 year.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:36 AM | sounds like the USSR (Score:1)
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sounds like the USSR

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:25 AM | This would be a very bad scenario (Score:1)
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I see the Vlad Emilien being a huge benefactor of this scenario

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:27 AM | What about Anderson? RR (Score:1)
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What about Anderson? RR sounded like he thought that they'd both make it. Denard could be a two way player. He'll probably only get a few snaps a game so he wouldn't be too tired to play corner. I don't know if you can move Woolfolk back. Safety is just as bad. Then we'd have to move Brown back to safety.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:28 AM | In all seriousness, I can see (Score:1)
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In all seriousness, I can see Stevie Brown and Brandon Smith moving back to safety, and some of those WR commits move to the other side of the ball.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:31 AM | Not sure about that (Score:1)
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That could be just as disastrous for our secondary, though. By all accounts, Brandon Smith just doesn't have the speed to be an effective DB at the collegiate level, which is why he was moved to linebacker.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:37 AM | Rogers to CB (Score:1)
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With next year's WR class... and Rogers at the #6 WR this year... move him back now. NOW!!!!

Maybe Vlad is pushed into the starting safety spot, allowing Woolfolk to be a back-up S/CB. But that doesn't do much for our over-all DB depth

Has Babb got on the plane yet?

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:55 AM | Well, this leaves our 4th CB (Score:1)
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Well, this leaves our 4th CB as a walk-on. If we moved Woolfolk, our 4th S would be a walk-on. We'd have to move Rogers, I guess.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:02 PM | Wide receivers start becoming (Score:1)
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Wide receivers start becoming cornerbacks. Cam Gordon, maybe, or maybe I'm just way off base there.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:06 PM | Hes not fast/quick enough for (Score:1)
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Hes not fast/quick enough for corner. Maybe he goes to safety and Woolfolk goes back to CB for the year.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:05 PM | Cam Gordon is probably a (Score:1)
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Cam Gordon is probably a Linebacker on D.

I don't see this being an issue. RR didn't seem too concerned about Turner.

Witty on the other hand seems like he could go either way.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:36 PM | Seems like (Score:1)
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...you've got some inside information on Witty beyond the football arena....

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:37 PM | Oh the humanity (Score:1)
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If secondary depth gets any thinner there will be consequences not only on Saturdays, but on the scout team too. It can't help our receivers to go up against walk-ons and each other in practice, only to face Spievey or Chekwa when it counts.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:57 PM | We would be fucked about (Score:1)
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We would be fucked about eight different ways, none of them enjoyable.

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:10 PM | I thought (Score:1)
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the results of the test Turner had to pass were supposed to come out today or very soon. Him not being at practice today doesn't mean he hasn't qualified, but yeah, if he and Witty both did not qualify we are fucked with a capital F

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:36 PM | Screwed (Score:1)
mgovictors23
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Simply put if they don't make it we will be screwed in the secondary. Isn't Floyd Simmons still at corner as a walk-on too. If they don't make it our depth chart would be:

Warren
Cissoko
Floyd
Simmons(if he is still at corner)
Anderson
Rogers???Woolfolk???

If we got both of them which I'm really hoping we do it would be this:

Warren
Cissoko
Floyd/Turner
Turner/Floyd(don't know who would be the third or fouth)
Witty
Simmons
Anderson

That to me leaves some depth issues still but is certainly much better than the first option.

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:49 PM | There seems to be (Score:1)
Blue in Yarmouth
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a few different solutions (I mean band aid solutions here) but the only ones that make any degree of sense is moving some of the many WR's to DB. Moving anyone in the DB is not going to work because we are thin at all positions there. As for our WR's, there are only a couple who could make the switch. As I said....this is a band aid solution for a massive laceration with an arterial bleed........we're in some shit!

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:56 PM | If Witty doesn't qualify, (Score:1)
WolvinLA
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If Witty doesn't qualify, then it was TOTALLY worth it offering him to get Denard.

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:39 PM | Maybe im crazy but i have (Score:1)
MichiganMan_24_
Joined: 12/31/2008
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Maybe im crazy but i have heard Witty has looked alot better than a 2* ... i hope he qualifies

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:45 PM | Witty hasn't attended a (Score:1)
chitownblue2
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Witty hasn't attended a single practice.

wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:48 PM | Two Words: (Score:1)
Jay
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Remote Viewing

"I'm Leslie E. Miles and I approve of this message."

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:53 PM | Seriously. Witty may be (Score:1)
chitownblue2
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Seriously. Witty may be Charles Fucking Woodson. I don't know. But there has not been a single practice held since he would have arrived in AA.

wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

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August 6th, 2009 at 5:54 PM | He's talking about (Score:1)
me
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the player organized 7-on-7 drills. But yeah those are not official practices.

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August 7th, 2009 at 10:25 AM | Don't recall who (Score:1)
TIMMMAAY
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But someone on the team commented a week or so back, that Witty would probably impress, from what he had seen.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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August 6th, 2009 at 7:07 PM | scary (Score:1)
maizenbluedevil
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That depth chart is incredibly scary even if you add Turner and Witty, who are both freshmen, and Witty wasn't highly touted.

I'll be *thrilled* with 7-5 this year.

 

CJK5H

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August 6th, 2009 at 7:21 PM | FWIW, Sam Webb doesn't think (Score:1)
Michael
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FWIW, Sam Webb doesn't think JT Turner will have any trouble making it in. He seems to think it's more of a paperwork issue, whereas Witty is waiting on a test score.

c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

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August 7th, 2009 at 7:19 PM | I really hope both make it (Score:1)
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I really hope both make it in.

Pronounced Ahh-Neh-Muh

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August 7th, 2009 at 7:22 PM | Worlds will collide. (Score:1)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
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Worlds will collide.

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