I haven't seen him
since the initial flurry
I did not make this headline up
I haven't seen him
since the initial flurry
Serious question: who loses their current job first, RR or Dave Poe?
Everyone basically took the words right out of my mouth.
3 years until you can discuss firings, 5 years until the actually happen. Period. Weis has taught us that much.
the best part is when he talks about Michigan like he's around the program every day, and has all this insider information about the goings-on and daily activities, and knows tons of people who are Michigan fans (like the entire alumni base). Then he proceeds to tell us that there is no doubt RichRod will lose a lot of games, get killed by Ohio State, and then be fired. He gives no evidence to support his theory; he just says it like it's a widely accepted fact. This article could have very well been a long-winded rant on a WVU or Buckeye or Sparty message board, grammatical errors and all.
But no, this guy is in fact a professional sports-writer. I mean somebody actually PAYS this guy to write - about sports - in an actual newspaper.
It would be funny if this guy was a troll on purpose to see how many people from Michigan read his article compared to the number of West Virginia folks. He could claim he did his job and brought in more readers.
I enjoyed the article immensely. Now I sit here and ponder if Mr. Poe is an alias and if he breeds Bulldogs?
I miss that Mcf . . .guy. Marty Mcfly that is.
Ridiculous premise. No data to lend credibility to ridculous premise. I'm pretty sure I've seen this journalist posting comments on Freep.com. I guess some trolls do get paid....
I guess this is what passes for quality in West Virginia. I almost miss the appropriately-named David Hickman.
michigan has never fired a coach before
He will NOT get six years to turn the program around. He will get a minimum of three and probably even four to right the ship.
Gotta love how I get a negative point for my above post. Anybody that believes Rich Rod would be allowed six subpar seasons before he would be fired is clueless.
Neither one of you specified the conditions under which those 3/4 or 6 seasons would play out. Does subpar mean 3-9? If so, of course he won't last 6 years. Does subpar mean 7-5 or 8-4? Now yer debatin'!
In fairness to the poster, he did not say M was going to have 6 subpar seasons, that was your assumption.
Maximum is 5, he has to graduate one full class for the experiment to have failed. Though if there are no results, say it looks like 3-9, 4-8 and 4-8 again, then you have to fire him before too much damage is done... ie the cupboard being equally bare for the next coach as it was for RR.
Moeller (regardless of what we officially claim) was fired. But it was not performance-related.
Nobody ever resigns from the best job they're ever going to get. Moeller was "gently" pushed in that direction, trust me.
Of course he would have been fired, but that he was allowed to resign rather than outright fired says a lot about our athletic department, as well as the unlikelihood of what this article is trying to convey.
"It is obvious this will be RR's last year as UM football coach" my ass.
Well of course the article is shit, but honestly I think that if it came down to it (like 0-12 bad) that he'd be fired if only to appease the alumni base who would be in a froth of anger.
I don't think there was a massive outrage with Mo, more like a sense of it being wrong. It could have been forgiven had the team been in contention.
Officially, Moeller resigned. Unofficially, Joe Roberson fired him. Whether you call it a firing or resignation, in no way did Moeller choose to leave. Bo Schembechler was on a fishing trip at the time and became absolutely incensed when he found out. Many believe that had Bo simply been around at the time, Roberson wouldn't have had the courage to pull the trigger.
Wow, Michigan does have a tradition of shit hitting the fan while important people are on a boat.
I am completely unable to hear/see/think of the phrase "on a boat" without hearing "I'm on a Boat" in my head.
That was the intent! I didn't embed the video because it's not really SFW I guess.
WTF does SFW mean?
SFW = safe for work
NSFW = not safe for work
Brodie, meet MGoBoard, MGoBoard, meet Brodie - king of NSFW.
safe for work
I'm not even speaking as a Michigan homer when I say that's one of the worst pieces of journalism I have ever read. Shot off an e-mail to him dressing him down for that dribble.
When I read material like this, it just makes me think this guy is truly scared of what RR is capable of and what he will eventually turn Michigan back in to.
They get their shots in before his future, impressive on-field performance forces them to STFU and have a good cry.
Enjoy the Board, I trust your Opinions, and thoroughly enjoyed your critiques of the article......
Based on the collection of comments, I did not click on the link but have this funny visual I thought I would share....
I picture some rube "hee haw/joe dirt" in-bred, wide eyed, red neck wearing jean bib overalls and no shirt, with a 12 inch blade of grass stuck between his only two teeth, banging the keys of a "new" computer with his toes since both arms were injured in a hunting/farming accident....all of this of course done, while banjo music plays in the background....
That Pat4D had a new email address and writing gig. As always if you hate him, please email him at his usual location Pat4D@ESPN.com
When I read things like this (and there have been many articles and comments like this in regard to RR) it brings me back to my childhood. Parents have always told children that a person bully's them because they are jealous of them or a boy bugs a girl because he secretly likes her. I used to laugh as a child and think "that is foolish", but it has been my experiences since that has proven them to be right.
If RR was such a terrible coach WVU fans would have no issue with him leaving regardless of circumstances. If he was such a terrible person why do they care that he left? It is because he is a great coach that the WVU fans are still, almost two years later, crazy over his departure.
I loved Lloyd Carr, but when he left I knew it was time. Had he left to coach someone else I would have wished him well and simply been glad that he would no longer be holding UM back in the stone ages., If WVU fans really fealt the way they claim there would be none of this constant bashing of RR.
P.S. I know this article isn't exactly bashing him as much as saying he will fail but I felt this was as good a place as any to vent on this issue.
if tommy can field okay teams for 6 years, i think rodriguez gets a bit longer than a 2 year leash. bill martin has shown he prefers to invest in coaches and give them time to develop their program. he's not joe d, folks. putting up a donut in the win column this year is the only way that his seat will increase in warmth.
I'm ok with him being Joe D if by that you mean win his division like 5 years in a row and deliver a championship as well.
No, if he repeats 3-9 or does worse than that his seat will get hotter. We shouldn't mistake giving him time for not having any expectations, the team should show improvement year to year and if none is shown this season, then that's a bad sign.
The basketball team is a horrible comparison. Michigan basketball is largely irrelevant if they're not doing well and there are no donors who will base their gifts to the University on basketball performance. They aren't doing a massive, costly upgrade to Crisler.
Great post, Brodie.
They've been talking about this article on 97.1 since early this morning. Embarrassing. It's getting to a point where I might finally stop listening to the station because they'd rather support bullshit talking head conjecture than reasonable analysis on anything sports-related simply because the Springer dollar is an easy one to make.