"......because Penn State blogging these days is a lot like being the guy in charge of the HR e-newsletter at Blockbuster."
And this is why I love me some Mgoblog every day. Well played sir.
Michigan's not the only Big Ten East power program holding introductory press conferences this month. PSU has a mostly new staff, and Ohio State poached a legendary assistant from them while also adding what appears to be one of the more competent guys from the Bielema group. How does this change things?
Nussmeier to Michigan, Franklin to Penn State, Ash and Johnson to Ohio State, Pat Narduzzi to...dammit all to hell, how can a guy mentioned in every coaching search not go somewhere?!?
How will these recent coaching changes affect the balance of power in the Big Ten East, and the Big Ten in general? Who'll still be coaching at the same place, and who will be the happiest with their guy three years hence?
Ace: If nothing else, recruiting in the Big Ten East is going to be an absolute war. We've discussed the recruiting upgrade Nussmeier provides over Al Borges in this space. Now Penn State lands James Franklin, who managed to reel in the #26 (247 Composite) class at Vanderbilt in 2013 and was on his way to repeating that feat this year before his departure; given the foundation laid by Bill O'Brien and the ever-receding shadow of the sanctions, he should be very successful as an energetic, big-name recruiter in a relatively talent-rich area. Franklin's already had three prospects commit (or flip their commit from Vandy) to Penn State since he took over; he's a coach who players commit to over a program, and now he's got a big-name program to pitch, as well.
Meanwhile, Ohio State gets the Nittany Lions' longtime ace recruiter in Johnson, who should pick up any slack lost when Mike Vrabel bolted for O'Brien's Houston staff—coaching musical chairs! It can be weird!—and Ash also carries the reputation of a solid recruiter.
|Those who've witnessed a James Franklin press conference admit Penn State won this round. [Justin Aller/Black Shoe Diaries]|
All in all, I think Michigan benefits the most right away from their recent hire, though I can also see the argument for Ohio State. The upgrade from Borges to Nussmeier should pay immediate dividends on and off the field; while OSU is very much the team to beat in the division, U-M's recent recruiting success and strengthened coaching staff should start closing the (for now, relatively wide) gap between the two programs.
The Buckeyes, for their part, landed a quality co-DC in Ash whose specialty—coaching defensive backs—is exactly what they need to patch up a porous secondary playing well below its talent level. He improved Wisconsin's pass efficiency defense from 53rd in his first season there (as the defensive backs coach) to 22nd in his third year (his second as DC and DBs coach) before moving on to Arkansas; how much he's to blame for the Razorbacks' #105 ranking in that regard in his lone season there is unclear.
[After the jump: the stuff after the jump. Also: tautology]
While I think Franklin is a very good coach—and probably the best possible hire PSU could've made—it's difficult to look at him as an upgrade considering O'Brien is now spearheading an NFL franchise after going above and beyond any reasonable expectation for success in Happy Valley in the wake of the sanctions both as a coach and recruiter. O'Brien is an NFL-level coach and Franklin still has to prove he can excel at a major program.
There's no question that the Big Ten East is the stronger of two divisions by a significant margin, and the recent coaching moves only add to that. While I think the coach with the best long-term outlook with his new program is Franklin, I just argued that U-M and OSU made bigger upgrades to their respective staffs with their moves. Since the biggest apparent worry with Nussmeier is that he'll move on to a head coaching job after a few years—which would require a very successful run as the OC in Ann Arbor, and then Michigan can throw buckets of money at another rising coach—I'd say the Wolverines did the best job of improving both their short-term and long-term outlook. Franklin's ceiling seems too similar to O'Brien's, Vrabel and Johnson basically cancel each other out, and Ash's resume doesn't strike me as being as strong as Nussmeier's. That said, all three of these programs did very well with their hires and the division should be remarkably competitive for the foreseeable future, especially once Penn State is entirely clear of their scholarship limitations.
Coach Brown: If nothing else the Big Ten appears to have brought in some solid coaches at multiple programs who have a history of solid coaches. Ace talked about it already but the Big Ten East is just far better than the West. Ohio State still has a talent edge and a winning mentality quite a bit higher than everyone else, although Michigan State seems to do just fine with lesser talent. If coaching changes aren't something that occurs every season Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Penn State could really beat up on each other.
|David Cornwell, Bama's top-ranked QB recruit, was reeled in by Nuss. [The M Block]|
I think the recruiting aspect is going to be very interesting. Nussmeier brings a lot more to the recruiting table than Borges and everything I've heard directly from recruits proves that. I honestly don't know a ton about Johnson but from all accounts he's been an ace recruiter for a lot of years in a talent-rich areas and has built solid pipelines that he may be able to plug into Columbus....yay. Franklin's recruiting ability is also top-notch as he turned a Vanderbilt program into a respectable outfit on the field (off the field is another story) by recruiting at a level far above what Vanderbilt was accustomed to.
Schematically it would appear that every team improved their stock. Johnson has a great reputation as a defensive line coach and Ash specializes in the secondary where the Buckeyes looked pretty porous. Nussmeier should be able to outperform Borges simply because it'd be almost impossible not to. Plus his track record speaks for itself. As intense and energetic as Bill O'Brien seemed to be, Franklin brings even more of both to the sideline. Recruiting shouldn't be a problem for him so I'd expect the product on the field to improve at a faster rate than it did at Vandy.
The future of coaches can be next to impossible to figure out. As poorly as Borges did this season I didn't really think he'd get fired. Coaching changes sometimes seem so obvious and don't happen, and other times coaches fly the coupe out of the blue. I think Franklin will be very successful but I wonder if his personality will be too much at a place like Penn State. One could argue that Vandy is cut from the same cloth as some of the Big Ten schools academically and morally but let's be honest, it's still the SEC. Ohio State is going to be Ohio State. They recruit as well as anyone in the country, accept every one, develop players well, and Urban flat out wins ball games. Ash and Johnson both roll into Columbus with an overstocked cupboard and will get results on the field. They won't be going anywhere unless they want to.
With Nussmeier it's tricky. If he succeeds out of the gate, he's probably gone in a year or two as he's already been a candidate for legitimate head coaching positions. If he doesn't succeed, then he's just Al Borges in a much different body, and that may lead to other changes in the near future. 2014 will be interesting.
BiSB: It's becoming increasingly clear that the Big Ten East is an elaborate prank on Rutgers and Maryland, or at the very least a macabre initiation ritual. You could argue that all four big teams in the East are in better position than they would have expected a months ago. Michigan State was probably figuring to lose Narduzzi, and unless Vandy hires him (HIRE HIM, VANDY), they will get at least one more year with their death-merchant.
|Your assessment of Nussmeier's effect at Michigan probably has a lot to do with how you felt about Borges.|
Ohio State lost Mike "Gold Bond" Vrabel, which was painful, but the rest of the staff remained intact and Ash and Mister Larry Johnson will probably more than compensate for Vrabel. And while the Nussmeier hire has been discussed ad infinitum, it remains an upgrade from a recruiting standpoint and certainly not a downgrade from a playcalling standpoint. All four stand to lose coordinators in the next few years, but the situations (with the possible exception of Hoke) seem remarkably stable right know. Poor Damn Kevin Wilson.
I'll disagree with Ace a little bit, in that I think the hiring of James Franklin is a bit of an upgrade over BOB. O'Brien is a fine coach, and he did more with the sinking corpus of the S.S. Nittany Lion than could be reasonably expected, but there was always the sense that his stop in college was a temporary one. So, while I think O'Brien was every bit the coach and recruiter Franklin is, this is as smooth of a transition from "we need someone to save us from going ker-blammo" to "okay, time to rebuild" could go. Franklin is a long-term answer, which settles one of the large remaining clouds over Penn State.
Seth: If nothing else these changes have already had a profound effect on our roundtablers beginning their responses with "If nothing else." This also give me a chance to table the disparity between Michigan's division and the one Nebraska and Wisconsin get to fight over:
|Big Ten East|
|School||Head Coach||3-year record||All-time||3-yr Recr Rk*|
|Ohio State||Urban Meyer||30-9||741-251-36||2nd|
|Michigan State||Mark Dantonio||31-10||535-355-30||32nd|
|Penn State||James Franklin||24-13||820-362-37||31st|
|Big Ten West|
|School||Head Coach||3-year record||All-time||3-yr Recr Rk*|
*247 composite rank among FBS schools for 2012-'14 classes as of 1/16/2014
The East has the Alabama of the Big Ten, three of the four programs with 700+ wins, five of the eight schools over .500 the last three seasons, one doormat (Maryland) to two in the West (Illinois & Purdue), and the only two schools recruiting among the Top 25 in the country.
You guys are saying most of what I wanted to say about the Franklin hire and we've discussed Nuss a lot so I'll tackle the Buckeye guys. While doing an HTTV-like book with Penn State's bloggers last year I was inundated with their feelings on Larry Johnson Sr. They talked about him like he is the program.
They're trying to be cool about it now because Penn State blogging these days is a lot like being the guy in charge of the HR e-newsletter at Blockbuster.* But trust me, there is no assistant in the history of position groups who has been more beloved, or comes with a better track record. It is astounding that he's never wanted to be more than that. He turned a crappy Maryland high school into one of the state's biggest powerhouses. His brother is the AD at the school that Remember the Titans is about. Every high school coach east of the Appalachian Mountains and north of the Carolinas thinks of Johnson Sr. the way you think of Bo. He is their first phone call when a D-I player emerges, he closes like Urban Meyer, and his record at sifting through busts was the engine behind Paterno's zero-attrition defenses. What he couldn't add by recruiting he went ahead and reproduced on his own, sending two sons to Penn State, one of them being the Jr. you know about.
He can coach the position better than guys who've ridden just that ability to head coaching gigs at power programs and in the NFL. Remember how PSU's defensive line just did things against Michigan even when we weren't running into 9-man fronts?
|College football would be way less fun if Ohio State defensive backs could tackle. [Andy Morrison/Toledo Blade]|
When O'Brien rumors started in earnest I gchatted Brian to say "Michigan needs to get this guy!" no matter how much we both knew defensive line is covered by Brady and Mattison. Hoke probably thought about finding a cushy landing spot for Mark Smith or Roy Manning anyway; this is a guy you make room for. As it happens Ohio State had just lost Vrabel. Damn them.
* [Here's 19 Incredible Things You'll Find While Cleaning Out Your Desk!]
As for Ash, despite inheriting a lot of Courtney Avery types, he did some great work with the Badgers' pass defense. Like MSU, it involved a lot of subtle pass interference of the kind that doesn't get called in the Big Ten. A young dude, that two-year turnaround was enough to put him on lists of up-and-comers. Then he went to Arkansas and oversaw a pass defense equivalent to Michigan's in 2010.
Razorback fans blamed Petrino for Rodriguezian recruiting. At Arkansas he had guys who weren't talented or particularly clever, and he had them sit 15 yards off the line of scrimmage because if they didn't they'd be the 120th passing defense instead of the 116th. Here's Arkansas's SBNation blogger talking to OSU's:
Arkansas was very conservative on defense most of the year due to talent deficiencies in the secondary. Opposing receivers typically received pretty generous cushions in an effort to prevent big plays. It didn't always work – look at the game-winner for LSU to end the season – but Arkansas' defense did gradually improve through the season (We did hold Auburn to 35 points in November, which is much more impressive now than it was then). I'm sure he wanted to attack more as most coaches say they want to, but we just didn't have the personnel to do it.
"Fans were disappointed in basic tackling by the secondary, something for which he actively promotes himself. You can see a particularly egregious performance from Tevin Mitchel in the Ole Miss game on a play that went for a touchdown in the second half and essentially lost the game for us."
You probably already know this from the last three games against OSU and all of our previews, but the Buckeyes have very talented defensive backs who're constantly forcing writers to come up with nice ways of calling them "dumber than a box of rocks." So I'm guessing the magic he worked with Wisconsin's guys isn't repeatable in Columbus.
Ace gave you the efficiencies, here's the relevant stats, with the teams Ash coached in bold (I included befores and afters for comparison):
|2007 Iowa State||7.6 (94th)||24 (88th)||10 (90th)|
|2008 Iowa State||8.9 (118th)||31 (114th)||11 (67th)|
|2009 Iowa State||7.5 (83rd)||23 (96th)||15 (28th)|
|2010 Iowa State||7.2 (65th)||21 (63rd)||12 (55th)|
|2009 Wisconsin||7.3 (75th)||21 (85th)||15 (28th)|
|2010 Wisconsin||6.9 (52nd)||20 (63rd)||14 (43rd)|
|2011 Wisconsin||6.5 (24th)||15 (21st)||16 (18th)|
|2012 Wisconsin||5.8 (7th)||18 (38th)||8 (92nd)|
|2013 Wisconsin||6.2 (13th)||16 (26th)||9 (92nd)|
|2012 Arkansas||8.2 (109th)||24 (87th)||6 (109th)|
|2013 Arkansas||7.9 (101st)||25 (99th)||8 (98th)|
If you say "well Iowa State recruiting" I respond he was ISU's recruiting coordinator since 2004, when he got the job only because every team needs a Beyonce and he's young. Everyone is pretty much in agreement that he isn't a recruiter.
Johnson is, and he gives OSU a lock on the region Michigan was trying to pry away from them during Penn State's time in the penalty box. He'll keep Ohio State's defense as annoyingly good up front as they've been for all of Fickell's tenure. Net result: maybe not so much. Ohio State is repeating strengths; until their defensive back recruiting shifts from a million Ted Ginns they're going to remain dudes who live and die with their talent, which is considerable enough to usually be good enough.
So predictions. In three years:
Brian: You guys covered it to the point where I could say something but it would only make the post longer. Gold stars for everybody.
"......because Penn State blogging these days is a lot like being the guy in charge of the HR e-newsletter at Blockbuster."
And this is why I love me some Mgoblog every day. Well played sir.
Anyone think Johnson may lose some of his recruiting cred, at least in penn, by moving away from psu? One can be hopeful no?
No matter how great he is as a person, you know there are plenty of people there that will be sour about his moving to a rival.
I can haz SEC coaches?
P.S. It's Happening....
MAC > B1G <> SEC
I see them getting better with age but I doubt they ever reach the levels of the Florida Defenses that had both Mattisoin and Strong coaching. Those teams also benefitted from a relatively slow pace for a spread offense as Tebow would methodically take them down the field.
Seeing how we didn't replace Montgomery directly when he left (Mattison & Hoke took over those duties) who did we essentially replace him with? I know we're at our limit for coaches which means another position coach must've been added that didn't exist previously and I cant remember who that was.
Roy Manning right?
They decided to add him instead of another DL coach, and Hoke and Mattison split that duty.
OSU fans (recruiting watchers, anyway) believed for a long time that Johnson would tell recruits that OSU and Michigan didn't care about graduating black players. I don't know whether this is true, but the perception is enough to make this something of a funny marriage.
He'll tell people that Michigan and the new regime at Penn State don't care about graduating black players. I mean, seriously? The dude supposedly did that? I suspect it would sicken me to hear the kind of things people say when they negatively recruit.
...have no first-hand knowledge of it, and it could of course be complete crap. But I always gave it a little bit of credence because it was OSU people saying that he would make that claim re: OSU and Michigan. I don't know why OSU people would make something up that included the part about Michigan.
Speaking as an OSU recruit-nut, this is definitely the accepted story among OSU recruiting insiders. Not knowing for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Penn State's graduation rates among African-American football players, at some point in the past 10 years, was higher than OSU and Michigan's.
I very much doubt he did that.
I have a hard time discounting stories of sanctimony coming from the Paterno regime - they really thought they were better than everyone else as far as I could ever tell - but that is admittedly a bias on my part. I am fairly familiar with PSU via my extended family, and I dislike that football program more than perhaps any other. So again, I am biased.
I remember the recruiting letter McQueary sent emphasizing they had never been on probation.
"Doug Nussmeier will be leaving Michigan to be the head coach of something, because good coaches at strong programs do that."
This will be my expectation because it's by far the safest one. . . let's just get that out of the way. I figure there's a 90% chance he'll be gone after three seasons, because in most cases those odds would be 100%.
Having said that, there are three reasons why I put that chance at only 90%:
1) Work-life balance. Not everyone is pathologically ambitious. Greg Mattison left the NFL to work for Brady Hoke and yes I'm aware Baltimore didn't try too hard to keep him, but he wasn't fired either. He has as impressive a resume as any DC in the country and yes he's getting paid, but he's said in numerous interviews that Brady Hoke runs a family-friendly program and all indications are he deeply appreciates that. A major football program with any semblance of work-life balance is rather rare (not gonna happen working for Saban), and difficult to quantify because it all comes down to how much it's valued by the person taking the job. With that in mind. . .
2) Nussmeier already was offered HC jobs. And turned them down. Among them Washington, and yes UW has been irrelevant for some time, but this isn't a junk program either. He's already worked there. Old-timer Michigan fans would remember them as something of a rival in the early 90s; their last NC was a split title in 1991. That's a long time ago but not ancient history either; certainly not much worse than Michigan's 1997 title. If being a HC was the be-all end-all, he's already got his offer in hand.
3) Benefits of having a boss without the downsides of being one. This is another Brady Hoke thing. I'm thinking most coordinators want to be HCs because they have a vision and want control, and credit for success would be nice. At Michigan he's being paid a lot of money to do what he does with minimal intervention, and the coordinators aren't in anyone's shadow. Meanwhile, Hoke's responsible for all the annoying aspects of head coaching. Is being UM's OC like sitting on the Iron Throne? No, but as long as his O-line doesn't lead the league in TFLs what's not to like? Again, if he REALLY wanted to sit under a Sword of Damocles, he's already been offered those chances.
Nussmeier has left the highest-profile program in the country and turned down a not-crappy HC gig to work at Michigan. He's probably not going to be Michigan's OC forever but I also think there's a dark horse's chance that he's not in nearly as much of a hurry to join the 20-hour-days-under-glaring-scrutiny fraternity.
I liked your post, especially its core message that not everyone is O/C about advancement in their field. Your post is thoughtful and thought-provoking.
Two things, though. First, Coach Nussmeier has been very open about wanting a head coaching position. He made statements to this effect as recently as last week at his introductory conference (he acknowledged the ambition, but then - properly - focused on his role as OC in Michigan's program). So I don't see him as a Mattison type who's content in an OC role long-term.
Second, I had understood that while he was a finalist for the Washington position, he came in second and was not offered. I've not heard or seen elsewhere that he had that position "in hand" and decided to go elsewhere.
Again, a nice post. But I think it's pretty clear Nussmeier's next step will be to be an HC, assuming his stint at Michigan is successful.
But...what jobs has Nuss been offered as HC? My understanding was the UW he was a heavy favorite, but was it him saying "no" or was it UW just deciding on someone else?
Did he really get offered the Washington job? I thought I read that he was a possible candidate, and not too much more.
Guys Nuss interviewed for the UW job but didn't get it. They offered it to Chris Peterson, the former Boise st. coach, instead. He accepted it.
It's unclear whether he would've accepted it if UW offered. I'm betting he would. I mean it's a good HC job and he used to be the OC there. Nuss stated he one day wants to be a head coach. Comparing him to Mattison is largely irrelent. Nuss is a young 42 and is a "hot, up and coming young coordinator", Mattison is in his 60's and, while still an amazing coordinator and recruiter, he is nearing retirement age. I recall a post on this blog stating that Mattison took the Michigan DC job because a) he coached the Mich DL from 92 to 96, b) his daughter and grandchildren live in Ann Arbor, and c) preferred the atmosphere in AA and in the college game over the intesity of the NFL to finish his career. Im sure the money helped as well. Point is, these two guys are in different stages of their careers.
Nuss, for better or worse will eventually leave to be a HC, assuming he has success here.
Urgh. Yeah, now I remember he was a "finalist".
Just be glad my memory isn't tasked with picking up a double-A gap blitz.
Okay, recruiting doesn't correlate to performance like we'd all want, but this latest class has a very, very clear talent advantage over everyone save OSU. We'd better kick ass in a couple of years.
I agree with Seth, the worst may still be to come for Penn State. Remember how excited we were in 2011 with the immediate turn around, and how the recruiting hole of 2010 came around to smack us over the head a year or two later? That'll be Penn State but worse. Yes the sanctions have eased, but the effects tend to lag by the average time it takes a recruit to develop into a starter: 2-3 years. If Franklin can win, it's all moot, but if he doesn't the fanbase will become restless and he's fiery personality will become a lightning rod for criticism from all angles. BoB maybe saw some of this coming and decided the honeymoon period, if there is such a thing in there situation, was coming to an end and it was time to leave while his reputation was at a peak.
Penn State's chances are going to rely very heavily on the arm of Hackenberg. If Franklin's staff has a dedicated QB coach who knows what he's doing, and with their two top 2014 guys being WRs, they could be a dangerous offense. The OL and the entire defense will be the great question marks, especially now that they're fully removed from Paterno's coaching regime with Vanderlinden and Johnson out. I can see them becoming like Indiana (give up a lot of points, but also score a lot) for the next 2-3 years while they rebuild the roster with 25+ man recruiting classes.
It's also going to be a relatively easy recruiting job for Franklin, as besides QB he'll have a lot of playing time to offer top level guys. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them reel in a top-5 or 10 class in 2015 and 2016.
I believe that M due to their schedule will perform much better in W/L department next year. The trap games like Iowa plus 5 killer games in November with no bye week wore down the team this past season. 2014 has 6 definitely should win games, 3 should win games and 3 tough games-ND OSU and Sparty. ND comes early in the season, Sparty comes in late October with a bye week before going to east lansing. M gets a bye 2 weeks before The Game and plays Maryland the week before which should be a good tune-up. Because the schedule is so favorable I believe M will flirt with a 10 win season. Its assuming incremental improvement on the Oline and a reasonable step up in the D performance. Also Sparty is losing 11 starters off the 2013 team and OSU is replacing some lineman and losing their power RB (Hyde) making those games more interesting. We will see....
I like it.
a rape allegation at Vandy, as is alleged, I don't necessarily see that one working long-term. (Some of us are even staid enough to find the "assistants with hot wives" thing dodgy.) PSU fans will be rabid for him for a minute, against him (quite possibly) a minute from now and the upright fig leaf O'Brien furnished after JoPa will be long gone.
My new internet handle is Fly De Coupe and I hate Ohio State.
Bill O'Brien showed the world that PSU could be a good job, and the program can return to prominence much quicker than expected. It's nowhere near the shitshow that O'Brien inherited. The position was viewed as a good position, and PSU seemingly would have lots of choices for a new head coach.
So Penn State hires a guy who apparently poorly managed a rape allegation? To be their head football coach?
A potential head football coach poorly handling rape allegations is a serious consideration at any school. But given Penn State's history of poorly handling rape allegations - with disastrous effects for the victims and their families, and the resulting deep tarnishing of PSU's reputation - makes Franklin's hire befuddling to me. Not to be too blithe about this, but hasn't PSU already seen that movie?
(The distinction between the PSU tragedy involving a coach raping kids and the Vandy allegations involving players seems to be a relatively minor one in this context. So maybe it's not exactly the same "movie". But I still want zero doubt about whether my head coach knows how to properly handle a rape charge against someone under his supervision - player or coach.)
Franklin's recruiting ability is also top-notch as he turned a Vanderbilt program into a respectable outfit on the field (off the field is another story) by recruiting at a level far above what Vanderbilt was accustomed to.
Specifically, what happened off the field that isn't respectable? Granted, it's Vanderbilt, but we don't hear much about any possible issues from there...
Didn't realize they were having so many problems...
The recruiting rankings in the B1G, how the hell does Michigan lose 5 games in the conference? It would seem illogical if not impossible, but then again, there you go.
for the same reason we expect Penn St. to get notably worse in the near future. this chart lists B1G recruiting rankings for 2014. In large part, our success this year should correlate with our recruiting rankings in 2010 and 2011, which were not as good as they have been. to put this in perspective, Penn St. recruited better than UM in 2010. I don't know where we were relative to Penn St. in 2011, b/c we were both outside the top 25. But that was RichRod's last year, so we know our class wasn't that good. It was before Sandusky, so I doubt Penn Sts was that bad. Bottom line, our recent, Grand Canyon-like recruiting differential with Penn St. won't really show until the 2014 season, at the earliest. It's been said before, we are young. Don't freak out.
Actually it's not 2014 recruiting, it's an aggregate of 2012-2014 recruiting, figuring those three classes will be an indicator of performance in 2015-17.
Agree with Seth about the Franklin/PSU marriage possibly being rockier than anticipated. Reasons:
1. There's something very strange about how Johnson's departure went down. Normally your longtime assistant-turned-interim coach does not bolt at the first opportunity when a new permanent coach is hired. I think there is a larger story there that's going to come out and will probably hurt Franklin's image with the fanbase.
2. I'm not totally sure Franklin is a college lifer, either. He was mentioned as a candidate for a couple of NFL positions, and those rumors don't come out of nowhere. I would not be surprised if he continues to be linked with NFL teams in the future.
3. A closer inspection of Franklin's record reveals a lot of wins over SEC dregs and non-conference cupcakes and not many over quality opponents. By Vandy standards, that still constituted an upgrade (they were one of the dregs before him) but is not evidence he can get to the next level. There are no Harbaugh-over-USC monster upsets on his résumé. Wil he keep them at a Bill O'Brien level or step it up?
Franklin will have to do his best coaching job to date at PSU. First by keeping his players out of trouble, which he didn't do so great at Vandy, and also keeping his own foot out of his mouth. The comment about only hiring assistants who have hot wives was way out of line and won't fly at a school dealing with its own morality issues like PSU.
in the middle of one of the worst scandals and most crushing sanctions in NCAA history has basically the same record over the last 3 years as Michigan. And that is with Michigan having its best season of the last decade in year 1 of that 3 year cycle.
If that doesn't show how craptastic our football program has been recently, I don't know what does.
I respectfully disagree; Penn St. outrecruited us for the years that mattered most in the 2013 season. We outrecruited them for the years that will matter most in 2015-16. the penn st. situation actually shows why we are likely to come out of the slump in '14 or '15. it does not indicate that we are in desparate times. its just rebuilding
just for fun, when you look at MSU, Dantonio was 25-23 as a head coach when MSU hired him, with his best season 7-5. Not all that impressive really and certainly not the harbinger of a Sparty football renaissance that we have seen this season. His 3rd season he went 6-7, 4-4 in the conference and lost the bowl game. His 4th year 11-2, lost the bowl again (he actually lost his first 4 bowl games at MSU), 5th year 11-3 and a win in a bowl. How is this relevant to M? Its simply a lesson that fans need to be patient through this process and that coaches really do need the 5 year opportunity to make it work. Sparty wasn't recruiting 3 stars and now is recruiting 5 stars, they simply had to allow some stability to settle in and for coaches a chance to develp players. Also, a word on the recruiting services, there is definitly a SEC tilt still, first due to raw numbers as SEC teams tend to oversign (e.g. Tennesse has 34 players in their 2014 class so far) skewing the recruiting overall rankings and there is a tendency for kids to get ranked a bit higher if they hold an offer from LSU or Alabama. Its a highly subjective eval at best. The BgTn isnt that far off in terms of recruiting particularly OSU and Michigan. I believe the major difference right now between the leagues is simply coaching. I believe the current M coaches have the goods and this latest hire really shows their commitment to winnning/improving the team. We gotta hang in there its gonna get better!
faced the last couple of years. They had 45 true scholarship athletes this year and still beat us. Last year wasn't much better.
The all-time wins column in the Big Ten East vs. West table seems to be outdated.
I used college football reference for that.
Let me know if you see any errors and I'll fix them.
Mgoblue has Michigan at 910-321-36 http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/050809aaa.html
It would just appear that the records posted are off by the last 3 years so if you add where you have listed last 3 years to total it should correct all w-l totals.
OSU loses only one coach and hires 2. I thought there was a limit to how many coaches you could have on a staff? Were they already short a staff member ? I haven't seen anything about this.
OSU lost two coaches. Co-defensive coordinator Everett Withers left to become HC at James Madison and DL Vrabel left to join Bill O'Brien at the Texans.