i dont have a scout subscription,
is this news about cullen christian worrisome?
Sure to be the subject of many "Calvin Johnson with a Korean accent" jokes over the next 4+ years, LA S Carvin Johnson became the 20th member of Michigan's 2010 recruiting class last night. The full googlestalk of the under-the-radar prospect can be seen in the Hello: Carvin Johnson post, but there's still a little more info out there to be had, namely an article from nola.com. Relevant bits quoted below:
Johnson said also spoke Tuesday night to both Wolverines running backs coach Fred Jackson, who had recruited him since Michigan extended its official offer during August two-a-day practices. Johnson said reached his decision in consultation with his mother Kim.
That's a slight inconsistency with other stories, which said he was offered in May. Continuing along:
"First of all," Roth said, "everybody who knows Carvin or who has been around him knows that he’s as good of a person as he is a football player. That’s a compliment to him and his momma. Football-wise, he’s a ballhawk. He’s always around the football making plays."
Johnson, 6-foot-1, 195 pounds, with 4.7 speed in the 40, projects as a safety at Michigan. He is fully qualified academically with both the necessary core curriculum grade-point-average and test score, Roth said.
So, not only a (hopefully) good football player, but also a good student. Welcome, Carvin, may you be the first of many DB commits in November.
BONUS: A Lousiana high school coach emailed MGoBlog to suggest that just because Johnson is virtually unknown to the recruiting sites doesn't mean that he's not a player:
With regards to your posts on Carvin Johnson, I can tell you that you are wrong on your assessment.
As a veteran Louisiana high school football coach at several highly successful programs, I have had players go on and play all over the country and on to the pros. I have also had kids play for RRod at Tulane, Clemson and WVU. RRod knows the type of football we play here in LA and picks and chooses which schools he recruits. … RRod knows this state and which schools produce college-ready players.
Carvin Johnson is not even one of my players – but I have played against his Rummel team and know Jay Roth and his program well. Carvin Johnson can play. Here in LA, we do not send kids to camps to get hyped up. We know our kids can play. If a LA kid is going to combines, it is very much more than likely due to (a) his high school coach trying to get exposure for himself or (b) because his program isn’t any good, but he plays well. Trust me, this is how it is.
You are getting a solid player – big, physical, coached up, football smart.
Just my nickel’s worth of commentary because that kid can play. I saw him 1st hand from my own sideline earlier this season when his team eked out a victory against us. Carvin can play and Jay is a good coach.
So there you go: evidence that Johnson is a sleeper in a good way.
Last week, mgoblog's own TomVH reported that CA S Tony Jefferson would visit MIchigan for the Purdue game. WTKA's Ira Weintraub e-mailed to let us know that the date has changed, and now Jefferson will be in town for the contest against the Buckeyes. Greg Biggins of ESPN confirms that he will now visit the weeekend of the 21st.
Also in town from the left coast will be CA WR Kenny Stills. He also says:
"I talk all the time with [CA RB] Brennan Clay, Tony Jefferson, [CA CB] Joshua Shaw, [CA DE] Ronald Powell, a few others," Stills said. "There's a good chance a lot of us could be at the same school next year and that would be great.
Stills, Shaw, and Jefferson, plz. I believe Josh Shaw will complete that trifecta by also visiting for the OSU game. He has said he wants to take a Michigan visit, and that would be the perfect time to get him on campus.
Remember back when GA DT Michael Thornton said he might take an official visit to Michigan at some point? TomVH confirms, via Twitter, that this will indeed happen. Considering that he's the only Georgia DT that Michigan is still heavily recruiting, we can assume this Scout header is about him, no?:
Georgia LB to Visit Michigan
GBW's Eugene Hankerson talked to the player - who plans to visit with his DT-Teammate.
Using a little detective work, we discover that there are three prospects in the Rivals database who are linebackers from Stephenson High School: Jabari Johnson, Franchot West, and Tyrone Cornelius.
Johnson doesn't have a picture available on his Scout profile, so he's out (otherwise the header photo for the article would be his profile picture). That leaves West and Cornelius. Let us compare the photographic evidence:
Cornelius, Mystery Man, and West
The mgo-photo analysis provides indisputable evidence: It's Mr. Cornelius, with the official visit, in the Big House.
I got way too much enjoyment out of this. Cornelius had been thinking about a Michigan visit for a while, FWIW.
FL LB Christian Jones is apparently still considering Michigan ($, info in header). I've re-added him to the board, since it seems like a lot of recruits are trying to stay as far as possible away from Florida State. Still, even getting him on campus would be a minor recruiting coup.
Part of the reason VA LB Aramide Olaniyan's is on the open market is that Duke was supposed to suck this year, and they did nothing to change those predictions in week one, falling at home to 1-AA Richmond. However, the Blue Devils have since rebounded, and now control their destiny in the ACC Coastal. Olaniyan is back to considering the Blue Devils, although Michigan still remains near the top of his list.
It was apparent that he wasn't headed to Michigan for a while, but now we know where FL RB Eduardo Clements will play his college ball: Miami (YTM).
FL CB Ricardo Allen committed to Purdue.
2011 OH DE Steve Miller has committed to Ohio State, which is sad, but not unexpected. I at least thought he'd give Michigan an unofficial visit or two.
Speaking of 2011, it's been a while since we've had an update on junior prospects. Athlete Vault has released an initial top 100 and relevant prospects at this time are:
#2 FL DT Timmy Jernigan (Michigan offer, but probably a Florida lock)
#3 AZ OT Christian Westerman (Michigan offer)
#10 GA TE Jay Rome (Michigan offer)
#12 MI LB Lawrence Thomas (Michigan offer, favors MSU)
#15 OH QB Braxton Miller (Michigan offer, favors OSU)
#27 FL S Hasean Clinton-Dix (Michigan interest, Dr. Phillips)
#35 FL WR/TE Kelvin Benjamin (Michigan interest)
#50 NC QB Christian LeMay (Michigan offer and camper, probably a lock to Florida)
#52 OH LB Trey DePriest (Michigan offer)
#54 DE Jalen Grimble (Michigan offer, added to the board)
#84 TX S Sheroid Evans (Stonum, Herron, Woolfolk HS)
#91 OH DE Chris Rock (Michigan interest)
#100 FL RB Demetrius Hart (Michigan lock)
Several other guys on the list will probably be of interest by the time 2011 recruiting truly ramps up.
For his part, Sheroid Evans would like to run track and major in engineering in college. Somebody get this kid on the phone with Troy Woolfolk and Patrick Omameh, stat.
Lawrence Thomas, on the other hand, is the subject of a ridiculously-misleading ESPN headline: "Mich. LB favors another Big Ten school" is a phrase which here means "Penn State is a school he is considering." The article itself even explicitly says he has no favorites.
SoFlaFootball also has its top 50 for 2011.
People close to MN OL Seantrel Henderson's recruitment are "beginning to think" he'll probably end up at Southern Cal. Uh, no, they've pretty much thought that all along. Notre Dame homers, on the other hand, think it's a 2-horse race between them and Ohio State. MI RB Jeremy Langford visited Michigan recently ($, info in header), I'd be surprised if an offer comes through. Michigan is pursuing post-grad VA DE David Mackall, currently a Maryland commit ($, info in header). I've added him to the board. SC CB John Fulton is selected to the Shrine Bowl. PA CB Cullen Christian no longer a lock? Say it ain't so! Is FL WR Kenny Shaw still interested in Michigan? A possible official visit would seem to imply so.
i dont have a scout subscription,
is this news about cullen christian worrisome?
I haven't read the article but Sam Webb wrote it and in today's recruiting round-up on WTKA Sam said something like "Michigan is in good shape with Cullen." So, despite what the header is, I don't think it is reason for panic (in and of itself).
hating God, in the name of Ronald Johnson and Nick Perry, you are right.....
I have a subscription and Cullen's dad was VERY high on Michigan and how Cullen and his family have been treated throughout this process. Cullen said he "was confused" after his WV trip. I think this is normal and that we still lead. Hearing Cullen's dad say the things he did about Michigan I think we are the team to beat. I wouldnt worry too much, if at all.
On a scale of 1 to 5 smileys running (rolling?) in circles waving their arms, how worried are we abut Cullen?
I believe the mystery man is the first guy, Cornelius. The only difference is that in one picture he's looking right and the other he's looking left(ours), and up And the moustache and possible goatee? Don't think he has one in the middle picture but he may.
Hair is the same, same small point at top of head in both pics, same divot in middle of chin, square jaw, little flap-like (not TP-ish wings) ears...
He looks like he's pretty familiar with the weight room.
serious or not, but the middle guy is obviously same as the first guy.
actually does the recruiting news.
This is indicated by his name being at the top of the post.
I've heard all the Pat White examples, meaning lower ranked players having great careers, but do you recruiting guys know of completely unranked players like Johnson who turned out to have good careers?
I might be wrong, but I think there is another re-ranking that will be done before the year is over.
Star players go under the radar every season. While there is a correlation between high star ratings and college and even NFL success, there are many future stars that were overlooked or undervalued by the rating services. Some examples from the recent NFL draft include:
Number 2 overall pick Jason Smith was a 2 star on both Rivals and Scout with his only offer being from Baylor.
Number 3 overall pick Tyson Jackson was a 3 star on Rivals and a 2 star on Scout.
Number 4 overall pick Aaron Curry was a 2 star on both Rivals and Scout with offers from East Carolina, Miss St., and Wake Forest
Number 9 overall pick BJ Raji was a 2 star on both Rivals and Scout with offers from Boston College, Wisconsin, and Rutgers
Number 16 overall pick Larry English was a 2 star on both Rivals and Scout with offers from Nothern Illinois, Ball State, Bowling Green
And most incredibly, Number 26 overall pick Clay Matthews was unranked on both Rivals and Scout entering college
These are just a handful of examples on NFL first rounders who were successful in spite of their rankings. Keep in mind that most players accepted to D1 schools will be given 2 stars in the last ranking just for having earned a D1 scholarship.
These examples don't guarantee that Carvin will succeed, nor should you assume that star rankings are meaningless. The majority of 5 star players get a chance in the NFL and future success for 5 stars is greater than 4s, 4 stars succeed at a higher rate than 3s, and 3s succeed at a higher rate than 2s or 1s. However, hope springs eternal and after this season we could use a little optimism. So I'm hopeful that Carvin Johnson will one day play on Sundays after 4 successful seasons with the Maize and Blue.
is why I asked about the unranked guys, and Matthews os a good example thanks--I had never heard of an unranked guy having success, which is why Johnson concerned me. Rankings do matter, and anyone who says they don't either doesn't know the facts, or refuses to see them.
Joshua Shaw set his final OV to OU for the TA&M game
Damn! I love me some Wednesday Recruiting....we appreciate the work and effort Tim.
Well it looks like the coaches are doing a good job at least getting players on campus and keeping them interested which is half the battle. Still plenty of time between now and signing day and I think we'll be happy once again. RR and staff have done a nice job recruiting in their time here.
If those players end up all going to school together, I'm guessing it'll be USC.
What a sweet group that would be to get. I think that the one thing we really have going at the moment though is that GOOD young guys (like some of the players in this group) have a legitimate shot at coming in, proving themselves, and plying early.
"big, physical, coached-up, football smart" makes my soul dong much happier.
we could possibly have a Cornelius, a Conelius, and a Carvin all in the same class. sweeeeet.
Tim, as always, excellent work. And, as an aside, I enjoyed seeing the return of Big 10 Recruiting rankings last week.
So, Carvin is not guru approved, but he's Coach Ox approved. I'll take that anyday.
BOOM COACH OX'ED!!!!!
"Welcome to the Ford, Carvin Johnson"?
Ronald Powell is going to Florida or USC. So yeah, a package deal with all those guys wouldn't be for Michigan.
Does anyone think that the blue hoodie behind Carvin's head in that picture makes it look like he's wearing one of those pointy elf hats that has fallen over? Or is it just me?
nah I see what you're getting at, but I pretty sure that is somebody bending over in the stands behind him
Please, Mr. Kevlar, come to Michigan and redeem our crappy linebacking.
Others of note in that top 100 list that might have been missed...
#26 Anthony Wallace - same HS as Tony Drake
#71 Deanthony Arnett
#89 Doran Grant
I think this guy will be a solid player for us. My favorite part for sure is when I heard smart football player. Something that definitely is not happening with our safeties this year.