and then there is losing as if your first practice was a walk through Friday evening.
fair point that
“Had a good practice yesterday. We expect it with the way this group has been. Most Tuesdays have been very good. It was good. The energy was good. The enthusiasm for the game of football was good. And in terms of preparation we got a lot done.”
Devin’s status physically? Has his leadership been tested?
“Oh I think all the leadership is always tested when you have adversity. He did a great job yesterday. Sore? Yeah. But every guy in the game of football across America who’s playing is going to be sore. He went out and attacked the day.”
Were there any lessons for him from last week?
“I think there’s always lessons. For him, maybe there’s some fundamental lessons when you look at technique that he can take home and learn from. I think leadership-wise I think there’s always those things we can build on ... I would think he keeps growing as a quarterback. That’s part of it. Being in those pressurized situations, made some awfully good throws. Obviously the Nascar series at the end of the game, late, showed a lot. He got them up even though he got him – he kept moving.”
Greg Mattison said Ameer Abdullah is the best running back you’ll face all year. What’s special about him?
“The kid’s a special athlete. He’s got good burst, good balance, can make you miss in the hole. I think the other part of it, traditionally, is their offensive lines have been pretty stout, pretty strong at the line of scrimmage. I think they’ve given him a chance to get runs started. I think his natural abilities, vision, jump cuts, all those things take over.”
Status of Keith Heitzman and Drew Dileo?
“Yeah they both practiced yesterday and they’ll both play Saturday.”
Who will start at SDE?
“I think Brennen [Beyer] will start the game, and Heitzman and [Chris] Wormley, I think we’ve got three guys in there that we like.”
How are the backups?
“Good. I think Tommy [Strobel] was set back. He had a little bit of burner that set him back a while. I think Matt [Godin] is coming along. I think he’s getting better. I like some of the physical things that he’s doing.”
How are your younger offensive linemen progressing?
“I think that group is a pretty good group. Logan [Tuley-Tillman], as he continues to get better as an offensive tackle [in terms of] football shape, strength, and all that because he’s a very good athlete. [Patrick] Kugler is a very smart football player. I think it runs in the family a little bit. His brother’s a center at Purdue, and his father is the head coach at El Paso. Those guys, I think, all are doing a nice job.”
How is Ben Braden coming along? Do you think he’s better suited to tackle than guard?
“Well I think Ben’s had really a good last four weeks. When you ask how he’s going along, I think he’s improving. I think he’s handling the communication at the line of scrimmage, getting into one protection and out of another one, all those things. From a body standpoint at the tackle position, it’s where he’ll end up at the end of the day, but we’ll work him in at guard, too.”
Do you do anything to stress the importance of playing well on the road?
“You know, I do about the consistency that we want to have. We’ve done a lot of different things when we’ve gone on the road depending on the time of the game. With a young football team, we’re going by stadiums and showing them the locker room. And we’ll do the same thing at Northwestern so they get an idea of here’s our bench, how close the people are. Here we obviously know our surroundings pretty well.”
Do you feel that the familiarity plays a role in your success here?
“I think if you take any team, if you look at their home wins compared to the away wins over the course of time, home is usually the better place.”
How are they doing making checks on the line?
“Doing good. I think Devin does a pretty good job. He identifies. Graham keeps growing, keeps getting better.”
How is Graham progressing?
“I think it is. Darryl would tell you the same thing.”
Are you going to try to give Derrick Green more snaps?
“Hope so. Him and De’Veon are both guys we’d like to get a little more work with.”
Did you see a different Devin emerge from that game?
“Yeah I think he learned. I think he grew … He took some shots, he got up, on the sideline he was great. He was encouraging guys and those kinds of things.”
When did you make the decision to take him out of the game?
“I think it was more after the last score. Let’s get Shane [Morris] some reps in that environment and see how he operates.”
How important is that for a young player’s development?
“I think it’s great. We’re going to be up there next year again. So that’s awesome for all those guys. The three freshmen on the inside. That’s got to be great for them.”
You mentioned De’Veon Smith. Does he have an opportunity to earn a higher spot on the depth chart?
“He’s got a chance to. Yeah.”
Has he responded to getting taken off the travel squad?
Was that to send a message?
Al said yesterday that rebounding after losses starts with the head coach …
“I’ve always believed with young people that this may be the only consistent discipline thing that some of them have ever in their lives. For us to be consistent with how we act and how we react to different situations or whatever it is or the schedule, how you want to do things. I think that’s important. We want to do everything perfectly, and that’s what it is.”
What are the hardest things Devin Funchess has to grasp in order to be a really good wide receiver?
“One of the hardest things is when you start identifying in the run game who are you going to block? With coverages changing, with some people disguising what they’re doing, especially when you start looking at the read plays and those kinds of things, who he’s going to block. Is he going to bypass the read key, all those things.”
How’s Taco Charlton progressing?
“Okay. Making progress. Day by day making progress.”
What does he need to improve?
“I think it’s a lot of different things. How you react to visual keys. He’s used to, like most of those guys in high school, just running up the field. Style of offense you play, they change week to week. Your mindset, your mentality, what you learn is a little different.”
How has AJ Williams responded? Will he start?
“Good. He should be in the lineup.”
You mentioned De’Veon Smith. What is his running style?
“He’s a little more of a slicer. He’s a little more like Drake [Johnson]. He’s very much a downhill, physical guy. Has good balance. Has similarities that him and Derrick have, but there’s enough different physical traits that they have that make them different.”
Has Russell Bellomy been able to do anything in practice?
“No. Not yet. He does a little bit of what we do on Sundays, and the rest of the time is rehab.”
and then there is losing as if your first practice was a walk through Friday evening.
The only fan$ that $tand a chance of running Hoke out of town are tho$e with the connection$ ($pelled with a capital $) to the AD, and by exten$ion the Regent$, who hired him in the fir$t place. Otherwi$e, cry me a river... As for the pressers, I think Hoke would benefit from a membership in Toastmasters Int'l. It could really benefit the pithiness quotient of his responses.
The bottom line is everyone knew this would not be a pinnacle season since the day in early January when Taylor Lewan declared he would return for another year to see what's behind door #2, instead of taking the sack of cash. A collective sigh of relief was heard across Wolverine Nation with that declaration, which kept hopes for this season from plunging into the OL abyss at that time instead of in early November. So cumong man! Get real... did you really expect more out of this season?
So no, I refuse to walk out on the ledge, because I'm reading the note to myself I left there last January telling me "No matter what happens in November, don't go out on the ledge. That's not where it ends - that's where it begins." So here we go, it's time for the forge of November to start melding this team into something steely, and have some faith that Hoke, Mattison & Borges, who brought in the raw material, know where to strike the hammer.
You lost me at $
If we win the next four games, should Borges, Funk, and Hoke still pack their bags?
Def let go Borges and Funk..Hoke desreves one more year and Mattison hasnt been that bad with what he has been given to work with
So Mattison gets a pass because what he has to work with, but Borges does not? He has a very young interior line, a running back coming of a broken leg, lost a WR for the year, the best tight end got moved to WR. So now an even younger tight end is depended on. Plus a QB who is just now starting fr a year in college. I would say if Mattison gets a pass because of what he has to work with then I say Al gets a pass for what he is working with.
His best TE has yet to be a TE. He should have identified that much earlier, if those of us who aren't coaches can see it.
His response to his TEs being young, inexperienced, or just not good at being a TE was to put more of them on the field.
His response to his OL not communicating well was to move them around the field into different packages and assignments, instead of picking one alignment and practicing just that. I think we can all give him a bit of a pass on having to change out players at position, but you would think he would have been able to do a better job at identifying his three best interior lineman during the spring and summer.
He seems incapable of varying tempo to take advantage of defenses.
He tips plays based on allignment on a rather regular basis.
He has proven to go into a shell on the road.
His in-game adjustments never seem to keep up with his opponent, and that was evident before having a young OL.
His last QB regressed as a passer instead of improving, and he IS the QB coach.
I'm sure I'm missing more, but that is depressing enough.
His best TE was forced to play last year because we only had two scholarship TE on the roster and Moore was injured for the season. So, we rode with him in an effort to develop him. He can't block. The bad thing is that we are now starting another true freshman who isn't a big improvement and the blocking TE can't block either.
He perhaps should not rely so much on TEs when we don't have any really good ones, but our WR options aren't much better. Gallon is great. I think Chesson at WR is about the same as Butt at TE. Then its Jackson and Reynolds and freshmen. I don't think those guy are much better than Williams. Dileo is hurt.
You are outright lying when you insinuate that Borges switched linemen in an effort to improve communication. First, you have no idea if Borges made that call. In about 100% of cases, the personnel decisions are made by the position coach. Otherwise, that position coach will feel like a bitch, and no professional wants to work like that. I've seen coaches scream at each other over just this. The position coach won out. Second, the changes were made in an effort to improve PLAY. Communication is a part of that, but that wouldn't fit your damning accusation. For what its worth, Miller's calls seemed to be fine. He wasn't much of a blocker, so we switched up he line. That domino led to other changes, but if communication was the issue, Miller would still be our center.
Tempo: you win. I don't know how important that is, but you're right.
He doesn't tip plays. He runs tons of plays from tons of looks. More to the point, Coach Rod actually tipped plays like crazy. You could tell the direction of a play by the RBs alignment 100% of the time. But then the QB would pull it, and the tip off would be nullified. Tipping plays is a stupid argument.
He has been quite aggressive on the road on occasion. Notre Dame last year featured 6 INT. That's a lot of airing the ball out. We also moved the ball very well between the 20s. And a halfback pass, even if you hate the call, is not something one does from a shell. He was quite aggressive on the road against PSU except for when he didn't have to be. I'd argue that a coordinator who called for anything risky at all when all that was needed was a FG by his very dependable kicker is a bad OC. I also don't believe such an OC exists in this world. He exists only in our imaginations, where his teams score 1,000,000,000 points per game and he never calls a bad play.
His in game adjustments are fine. Against Iowa 2011, his adjustments put us in position to win. That was the one game plan that I thought he fucked up in his tenure here, but his adjustments gave us a shot. He adjusted to the State onslaught with a bevy of quick passes. He even broke out the pistol PA seams that we have not seen all season. It failed, but it was an adjustment, and a good effort.
His last QB didn't regress as a passer. The problem is that Borges refused to dumb the playbook down to a series of 4 verts, 4 hitches, curl/flat combos. This is a knock on Borges. Denard was never going to be a good passer, so I think Borges asked too much of him. He probably should have kept Coach Rod's rudimentary passing playbook. But just because Denard could not improve his passing to fit into Borges's system does not mean he regressed, it means he didn't improve. I don't think anyone could make him a good passer of the ball, not even world class NFL QB coaches, which is why he is now a RB. His strength was as a runner, and Borges did a good job of having him run.
Don't be depressed. Everything will be OK. Especially when you stop trying to pin false things on the OC. Knock him for the things he deserves to be knocked about. You should have plenty of ammo without making stuff up.
Borges had two months to create a game plan that would win the game. His job is not to find out a way to maximize Denard's and Devin's talents. It is to contribute to wins by way of his offense. Because you think that putting Denard and Devin on the field together was a bitchin' idea and would be critical to our success does not mean that Borges had any responsibility to dl that.
And, while the game was ugly and we threw 0 bubble screens, we won. He fulfilled his actual job requirements, even if his game plan left a bit to be desired.
So the OC isn't suppose to maximize the strengths of his QB's? OK
That's certainly part of the job description. I'd only ask what that had to do with Devin. Devin took very few snaps that year, and looked bad on most of those snaps. The way the statement was posted, it seemed like he wanted Denard and Devin on the field together. That isn't any sort of requirement.
If statement was really about QB play, then I retract my snark, apologize, and give you a +1.
talking about the Outback Bowl? I believe DR went all the way as QB during the Sugar Bowl.
I still don't really follow you. I don't think Gardner played at all in the Sugar Bowl. You know, because he barely played that year at all. Its not like he was seen as a weapon at that point.
But I'll take your word and assume you aren't just obsessed with a double QB formation (wicked!). So, I am sorry, here's your +1.
if UM runs the table, i will be the first to sing the praises of borges/funk. because if that were to happen the o-line would have to improve dramatically; not to mention DG and the offense.
however, if UM loses 3 out the next 4 with the o-line (and offense) continuing to look lost with little or no improvement, why should borges/funk be given another year?
Is anyone asking a question about Bellomy?
Also, in hindsight, missing dileo was key last week, not difference between win and loss, but him in the slot picking up hit reads on blitzes might have been a few first downs when things still mattered.
I've always liked the way Hoke handles his pressers.
I really like Hoke, the man. I guess my opinion of Hoke, the coach depends on how absolutely terrible or good the game plan looks on Saturday. That's probably not fair of me, but it's what it is.
For all my bitching about what's happening, I still support our guys.
Borges and Funk need to go period...
on the side note heard through some people that DB has been attending Pioneer HS games and keeping an eye on their OC. Supposedly the guy is really good and a genius OC
Anyone heard of him or his abilities?
Nope just a rumor i heard
ever hear of jerry faust? lol.
I find the idea of the AD scouting a coordinator silly enough. The head coach hires his staff. For an AD to force an OC on an HC is not OK.
Rumors you hear in 3rd period history are just that, rumors. Sorry, but your OC isn't going anywhere. And he'll still be giving you that quiz on Friday.
Gerry Faust from Moeller to ND. Heard of him but his record is actually an arguement as to why you DON'T hire high school coaches.
Interesting article today on espn.com by Jason Whitlock re: Hoke. Check it out. Comments.
I'll post a thread.
That went well.
I just went on ESPN and couldn't find a single thing by Whitlock. Link?
Or go to freep and click on the link embedded in hoke s response, quick retort by hoke to his "friend".
That was like one of Lloyd's halftime interviews
Hoke holds a press conference, everyone complains about the coachspeak, nonanswers, etc. and assumes that the way he conducts his press conference is how he coaches the team.
If Hoke doesn't hold a press conference, then everyone will complain about the lack of a press conference.
Our coaches just can't catch a break from our fans, at all. It's like Ameer Abdullah said, I guess we're just ruthless.
Green is a better RB than Fitz. Hoke makes the excuse that Green can't pass protect, but either can Fitz. The only reason Hoke plays Fitz most of the time is because he's a senior. Also, why doesn't Hayes get any carries? Isn't he a 4 star with good speed?
How is that different from every coach in every sport every time in existence?
There are differences depending on the individual coach. Coach Rod got skewered quite a bit when everyone decided to use his words against him.
Most coaches aren't very forthcoming, though. And I can't think of a good coach who is. Belichick gives nothing. Tressel basically trolled the press professionally by talking up the punt as the most important play in football. The Harbaughs basically speak in platitudes only, and this makes them sound a lot like Hoke. Et cetera.
Just different kinds of platitudes.
The only guys who are really different are the ones who are dicks about things. And if you do it and win you're Jim Harbaugh or Steve Spurrier. And if you don't win you're Rex Ryan.
Quit making excuses and prepare your team to play MICHIGAN FOOTBALL