Wednesday Presser 9-17-14: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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News bullets and other items:

  • Ty Isaac’s appeal was unsuccessful, which means he has three years of eligibility beginning next fall
  • He currently is able to participate on the scout team

Opening remarks:

“Thanks for coming. It was good to get back on the field on Tuesday. Those practices, it was very physical. Had a great effort. It was another day for us to go out and compete and challenge with each other and prepare for a very good Utah team. It’s going to be great playing at home. You know, that always gets your players and coaches and everybody else, it gets them excited in the support that we’ve had, and we’re looking for that on Saturday.

“We’re not going to talk about injuries and I might as well bring that out now. And some of that is because you can say something about something and then you’re wrong. Everybody heals a little differently, and the other thing is for our kids. I want to make sure we’re doing a good job protecting them.”

 

Coach, what would you consider some of the biggest keys to beating Utah?

“Well, I think number one I think they’re third in the county in points scored. I mean, they’re explosive offensively. Good skill players. The two backs are kind of interchangeable in there. For the style of offense I think they really do a nice job of seeing holes. Travis Wilson has done a tremendous job when look nationally where he’s at. He’s second in pass efficiency. Gets the ball out of his hands pretty quickly.

“From the defensive side, I think they’re, depending on how they calculate it NCAA-wise, first in sacks and first in tackles for loss. Knowing Kyle [Whittingham] and Dave Christensen from [my] Mountain West time they both like to be aggressive defensively and then also on the offensive side of the ball.

“So for us, number one, we’ve got to improve. We’ve got to keep getting better every day we go on the field. I think from a defensive perspective keeping the ball inside and in front of the defense, making sure on those money downs, those third downs, [that] we can get off the field. Offensively, got to keep the sticks, got to be able to run the football, and also when you take shots you’ve got to execute.”

 

As someone who’s a guru in defensive line performance, is their defensive line- is it scheme? Is it the individual players that they’re so productive?

“Yeah, you know, Nate Orchard is one guy they’re using in a lot of different ways. As an outside linebacker, sometimes as a defensive end. I think from his athleticism that he has, he can cause you problems and then obviously he’s a playmaker for them so they’re putting him in some positions to make plays. I think up front they’ve got a quickness to them, and that’s something that can give you some problems. They spike a three-technique into an A gap, which is a coach’s nightmare but if you’re quick enough can be effective.”

[After THE JUMP: lots of tempo talk]

 

Brady, have you guys heard about the Ty Isaac appeal at this point?

“Yeah, it didn’t go through.”

How’s he handled all that? I mean, I assume he came here hoping to play or even expecting to to some degree. How has he handled the whole…

“He’s handled it great. I’ll tell ya, he’s our scout running back. You know, one of the two guys that kind of fill in that role and he had a great day yesterday. I think from an attitude standpoint and everything he’s been awesome.”

So he’ll have three years left starting next year, is that correct?

“Correct.”

 

Brady, Greg Mattison compared Utah’s offense to Indiana last year. Given the way that game played out, are you expecting another shootout on Saturday?

“Well, we hope not, to be honest with you. They’re a high tempo [team]. They wan to snap the ball quickly. They want to see if you’re disorganized defensively so when you look at that part of it I think some of the same schematics- you know, very similar to Ohio, very similar to Indiana so you see a lot of those things also but the tempo’s a big part of it. We practice at a high tempo and try and- every day we do that, but try and mimic as much as you can the tempo that will be played with.

 

MGoQuestion: It looks like Derrick Green’s vision has improved this year. I know a lot of that’s innate for a running back, but how can you coach that and how do you coach that in this program?

“Yeah, you’re right. A lot of it, guys have it or they don’t have it and I think part of his vision is the reps he’s had, the tracks he’s run. You know, a running back has certain tracks that they’re going to run and certain reads off those tracks so I think the more he’s had with that and the more reps we’ve given him I think he’s done a better job with it. I also think at the same time offensively up front there’s a little more separation and we’re getting a little more movement.”

 

Coach, last night Bryan Mone said when he first started working with you he was scared of you and now he says you’re like a father figure. Can you talk about the relationship because [of] the amount of work you do with him?

“You know, he’s a special kid. He’s truly a very Christian young man who…he’s a long way from home and having Sione [Houma] here I think has been a big help. I think the way he built relationships with the guys playing nose tackle for us. Ryan Glasgow has done a tremendous job bringing Bryan around. I think Maurice Hurst and Ondre Pipkins, I think all those guys. They’re a close knit group.”

 

Brady, if you are without Funchess on Saturday can you kind of go through the pecking order of wide receivers and how not having him out there might effect each one and their productivity?

“It just depends what personnel group. We might play more tight ends. It just depends what we want to do.”

 

Saw that Dymonte [Thomas] played quite a bit there last week. Was that due to injury opening a spot or was that due to him performing?

“Well, he’s played pretty well. He’s practiced well and you want to reward those guys. He’s done a nice job. He’s gotten better each time he gets on the field. He’s competing. It was good to give him those snaps.”

What was the missing piece for him to push forward coming into this season?

“I think it’s experience and maturity. I think that’s- some guys pick things up a little better sometimes and a little faster and I also think he’s been instrumental in special teams for us and the more reps he’s had at that has helped him on defense.”

 

On the receivers for a second, outside of Funchess who do you think is most capable today of maybe stepping up and being a number one if it’s called for?

“Well, I think we’ve got a few guys. I mean, I think Darboh and Chesson both have had good practices. They’ve had good years. I mean, they haven’t been perfect. No one has. But I think those guys. Norfleet and what he gives you. I think again, go back to the tight end position with getting guys ready for different personnel groups, I think that’s a positive.”

 

In terms of their tempo and trying to defend that, you mentioned the other day that you’ve faced a lot of teams like this with the tempo before. Have you done different things against different teams or is there kind of a standard way of doing things?

“Are you talking from schematically, or…”

Yeah, yeah.

“No, I think everything’s a little different. Some people are going to favor just the zone read, some are going- when you look at the run game, some of them are going to be more play action with some boots. Some of them are going to be big three-step teams to get the ball out of the quarterback’s hand. So I think it just depends, you know. From how you want to defend, who your playmakers are, where do you want to put them and get them in position so they can make plays.”

Are they one of those styles? Is Utah one of those styles or have they adjusted this year versus other years in terms of how they…

“You’re talking about Utah?”

Yeah, Utah.

“No. It’s Dave’s offense, to be honest with you, from Wyoming so it’s always been- there’s going to be a lot of three wides trying and stretch the field from the standpoint of space and all those things.”

 

We talked about it a little big on Monday, but the overall rotation at corner: do you guys know or have an idea of what you want to do there? With the nickel and everything else.

“Yeah. I would think that we have some ideas but they won’t be concrete until after we get done with Thursday’s practice.”

Who would be the three guys maybe right now in the lineup?

“Well, you’ve got the corners who you see on the depth chart.”

Even Raymon?

“The corners you see on the depth chart.”

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week 4 depth chart

Comments

Mr Miggle

September 17th, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^

 

We’re not going to talk about injuries and I might as well bring that out now. And some of that is because you can say something about something and then you’re wrong. Everybody heals a little differently, and the other thing is for our kids. I want to make sure we’re doing a good job protecting them.

This is the statement that had Brian basically calling Hoke an asshole for showing his contempt for the press? I think it's time to take a step back around here. Some of the editorial criticism has gone overboard. Maybe he shouldn't have eaten that lemon after all. 

 

AlwaysBlue

September 17th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^

and basically just disrespectful. Hoke is a good man. If he doesn't make it at Michigan it won't be for lack of heart or love for the program. The bs he's subjected to from supposedly knowledgeable fans ultimately reflects on the fan who I doubt lives up to half the standards they set for others.

BloomingtonBlue

September 17th, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^

Holier than thou crap. This is Brian's blog, and there is nothing else like it on the internet for a college program. The amount of content and information on this site is incredible. They could charge a fair penny for it and probably should. If anyone has earned the right to speak their opinion on an issue it's the guys who make this blog what it is.


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GoBLUinTX

September 17th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

coaching a team that can win on the road with something approaching consistency.  It wouldn't hurt to win some of those now one sided rivalries.  Did you happen to watch under manned Purdue make ND work for a win?  Compare and contrast that with Good Guy Choke Hoke's squad who all but wrapped up NDs win with a bow.

turd ferguson

September 17th, 2014 at 7:40 PM ^

And sometimes to harm the player. I've heard a number of former Michigan players talk about how MSU guys would go at their knees, ankles, and injured parts. This, alone, more than justifies the injury silence. My hope is that the crowd that's been upset about our coaches not talking about injuries just needed an explanation and now we can move on. Maybe Hoke should have said this earlier in the season. Maybe he thought it was obvious (along with the other obvious explanations).

Reader71

September 17th, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^

Media attention that might distract them from school or rehab or whatever. Potential cheap shots by the opponent. Guys feel really vulnerable when they're hurt. I have first hand knowledge of this. If you find out you might miss a chunk of the season, the last thing you want is a bunch of people asking when you'll be back -- its already killing you that you can't play.

Reader71

September 17th, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^

I try not to talk about my playing days too often for two reasons: 1. I am the least significant person to have ever pulled on a Michigan helmet. 2. I realize its like a stupid trump card and if I say something stupid some people might hold back out of respect or something. I don't want that to stifle any discussions. But there are some things that guys who've never been in that locker room will never understand. My career ended due to injury. I got in a really bad funk when I realized that my playing days were over. I had to watch the team go on without me, which is excruciating. You find out that it really is the team, the team, the team. And that it is next man up and the expectation is for the position. And so I'm very, very obstinate about this issue. Player injuries are none of our fucking business. Period. And forgive me for saying this to all of the fans who donate their hard earned dollars to the program, which everyone in the building very much appreciates and respects: I gave Michigan my shoulder. Others have given other parts. We've all given our blood, sweat, and tears. And now we realize we've given parts of our brains. We deserve some fucking respect, and if you're bothered that the Michigan football coach wants to insulate us from the pressures of the outside world, fuck you.

ThoseWhoStayUofM

September 18th, 2014 at 1:33 AM ^

Assuming all that you have said to be true, what is preventing Hoke from answering honestly whether he, and the trainers, think that a player will be healthy enough to play in the next game, regardless of what that injury may or may not be?

Fundamentally, that's not a question of injuries, but rather of playing time.

WineAndSpirits

September 18th, 2014 at 2:05 AM ^

I really don't think Hoke, or coaches in general, know how long it will take for a player to come back from injury. They may get estimates from their medical staff, but who's to say that the responses Hoke gives, aren't same type of responses he hears from his medical staff.

Think about how long it can take to recover from a twisted ankle or pulled muscle. Even if you 'feel' good, it's not until you push yourself, that you know whether you've healed.

I'm not trying to defend Hoke, but I'm just trying to be realistic and think about my own experiences.

CompleteLunacy

September 17th, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^

That when Hoke says "You can say something about something and then you're wrong"...he's speaking the truth. Because it happened. This year. In week one. Remember? Right after App State, he said Peppers would play against ND the next week despite the injury. And obviously Peppers did not play the next week. He was wrong. I don't think he was lying either. He was just wrong. So he'd rather just not talk about it going forward. Which...fine. Who cares? There's no requirement for coaches to give out injury info.

So, yeah, I think we need to calm down criticizing Hoke for not perfectly saying the thing you want him to say. Nothing in that quote reads contempt of the press to me. Not that I would care if Hoke does have contempt of the press (and he probably does at least a little)...because quite frankly, after the last 7 years of Michigan football coverage, much of the local press deserve that sort of treatment.

I know that losing and the uncertainty of the year (especially post-ND game) have a lot to do with it. But Michigan wasn't exactly elite when RR said "get a life" either, and yet this blog had no problem defending RR then. 

aManNamedBrady

September 17th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^

I hadn't thought of that until reading what Hoke said in this presser...

Imagine a kid expected to be the savior of this program, injured in Game 1 of his college career; head coach/father figure(?) tells the press earlier in the week that  he's going to play, ratcheting expectations up even higher, and then by Thursday or Friday, kid realizes that he's not gonna be able to make it and feels he let the coach down.

Not saying it happened that way, or that JP is too sensitive, but it might have been a little too rough to put the kid through, college big boy pants notwithstanding....

 

M-Dog

September 17th, 2014 at 5:45 PM ^

 They spike a three-technique into an A gap, which is a coach’s nightmare but if you’re quick enough can be effective.”

Wow, Brady is slipping up there and actually saying something specific in a press conference that actually means something.  I'm sure he meant to say "They play physical".  

He needs to re-work on his press conference poker face.

 

cigol

September 17th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^

I seriously think that this quote is a maaaajor problem with this underachieving program:

"Coach, last night Bryan Mone said when he first started working with you he was scared of you and now he says you’re like a father figure."

DonAZ

September 17th, 2014 at 7:04 PM ^

The charitible explanation is it suggests our players come to no longer fear the coach. 

I'm guessing in a way it's the opposite of George C. Scott playing Patton in the movie -- "They'll lose their fear of the Germans.  I hope to God they don't lose their fear of me."

I don't agree with that assessment, by the way ... I think they have their appropriate fear/respect of Hoke.  I'm just saying that may be what was meant by the post by cigol above.

BoFan

September 17th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

The background on Patton's statement is that in War the only way to keep troops on the front lines, ultimately to their potential or likely death, is that they are more afraid of the alternative.  That is much different than what is ultimately a volunteer role in sports.  So it doens't really apply here.

In sports the old school style of the coach that you are afraind of is found to not be as efffective as the coach that you will die for...so to speak.  You play for your team and coach.  What motivates more...fear or love.  Love is a bit strong but I think it gets the idea across.  There is research now about why top athletes are motivated and what motivated them to do their best.

This doesn't diminish the need for competition as a motivational tool which is clear for this team.  They have to work harder than the next guy to win the job.

Brimley

September 17th, 2014 at 10:14 PM ^

(and thanks to all posters).  This is what I thought cigol meant, but honestly, it's counterintuitive.  What's wrong with being a father figure?  I aspire to my old man's standard everyday: I never doubted his love but I damn sure knew I'd be held accountable for being stupid.  That seems to be a good paradigm for coaching, too.

GoBLUinTX

September 17th, 2014 at 8:21 PM ^

not their daddy.  There's a time and place for everything, time now to win.  Time now to stop saying to Frank Clark...well you almost got the sack, get 'em next time.  Time to say, Mr. Clark, if you can't sack the QB I'll find somebody that will.  And then do it.

Open question, when is the last time the Michigan DL absolutely had it's way with the opposing OL?  Next question, when is the last time the OL impossed its will on the opposing DL?  Coach Hoke told us at the very beginning that would be his point of emphasis.  Daddy Hoke has yet to deliver.

BoFan

September 17th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^

I'm afraid you need to read up on the more recent studies on what coaching styles are more effective rather than just weigh in with an opinion. Start with Phil Jackson and research his style and some of things he's involved in. Bill Walsh might turn up some good info. Oh and Beilein is a good one.

reshp1

September 17th, 2014 at 8:31 PM ^

Hoke's not going to stop being who he is just because some people thinks he should. His fatherly relationship with the players is a huge part of his recruiting success, so grand scheme of things, he really shouldn't change. How many of our commits have mentioned a family atmosphere?

Of the reasons we're not losing, players not being "afraid" of Hoke is going to be way down in the noise.