If the NCAA did independant investigations, college sports as we know it would look a whole lot different.
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Well, that was anticlimactic. One day you're all lawyerin' up with Gene Marsh and the next you're calling up Rich Rodriguez for that sweet CBS College Sports hookup. That's life as a warden: one day the cop cars roll up and there's just one way out.
More anticlimactic yet was Waiting For Dohrmann, the end result of which was one (anonymous) awesome story about Tressel rigging a camp raffle and a few more violation-type things that may or may not end up part of a very long document issued by the NCAA. The Dispatch story about Terrelle Pryor's eternal test drive seems more damaging at the moment. That came with strong rumors that Pryor is done at Ohio State as the result of an honest-to-God investigation; the Dohrmann piece is just talking to a couple of unreliable-seeming dudes who may go Ray Small on us once it becomes clear to them that they're going to have to follow Herbstreit out of town. As far as camel-incapacitating things go this was not the anvil promised by Tressel's sudden resignation. It was barely a straw.
So either there's more coming or Ohio State knows that the cats being loosed willy-nilly all over yonder and back can be sourced better than SI can put together on short notice. That's not a huge leap. At this point we have statements from six OSU athletes—Robert Rose (new in the SI article), Ray Small, Antonio Pittman, Maurice Clarett, Mark Titus, Marco Cooper—that hookups on everything from tats to cars were widespread dating back to 2002. Pryor's had at least a half-dozen loaner cars and drove up to a team meeting yesterday in this baby:
Note the temporary tag on the back. Terrelle Pryor is the biggest dodged bullet in the history of the concept.
The picture painted by sketch tattoo artist, discontented former players, random humor-writing walk-ons, and, you know, evidence collected by a federal investigation and a billion public records requests makes—wait. We've done this already. I've used the phrase "beggars belief," and since then we've had the Titus thing and the Small thing and the Pryor car thing expanded and the car guy says he's talked to OSU compliance more than 50 times and, yes, Dohrmann talked to a couple of sketch guys who indicted another three dozen or so Buckeyes. We passed the point where it was obvious Ohio State had come to define "lack of institutional control" about a month ago.
All the steady trickle of information that's come out since has done is confirm what Michigan fans knew in the deepest, most deranged bits of their conspiratorial hearts. All that stuff that the goofiest winged-helmet-baseball-cap wearing fanboi said was the rotten core of the Buckeye empire in various all-caps posts on your favorite message board is… like… true. Close enough, anyway. If it's not yet, accurate-to-date Buckeye insider types rumble about "much more."
But Ohio State's date with the NCAA is months away, possibly longer as they attempt to compile the ever-expanding pile of doom into a coherent narrative. Tressel's done now.
And what is he? Last summer I went on the Bucknuts podcast and grudgingly admitted Tressel was top five coach who had halted the parade of embarrassments OSU suffered under Cooper (Ken-yon Rambo's 0.0 GPA, losses to Michigan, etc). I'd been taken in like everyone other than the tinfoil hat wearers of the internet. He's not that.
He's not a paragon of virtue, either. The most annoying meme in the aftermath is about how Jim Tressel is a saintly man who made a "mistake" and the world is worse off now that he's not a football coach and will not be helping young men from rough and tumble backgrounds meet eligible young boosters:
Jim Tressel’s departure at Ohio State is a sad loss of a man with character. College athletics needs more men like Tressel among its ranks. Sadly, the atmosphere is not conducive for good men lasting too long.
With some notable exceptions, Ohio State fans on the internet have turned into Tammy Faye Baker.
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Tressel did not make "a" "mistake". He has spent the last 15 years of his life cultivating a studied ignorance of obvious NCAA violations. He may be a nice, Christ-fearing dude—not like anyone has flogged the Bible to shield himself from criticism—but he can still do that as a civilian. The fact that he texts psalms to former quarterbacks ("Get yours"—Tressel 3:16*) doesn't mean a series of choices spanning more than a decade is a mistake. He's not even trying to play by the rules everyone else signed up for.
So spare us the hymnal, cooler-poopers. Jim Tressel
is was a football coach, not a social worker. As he did this he turned boys into men like every football coach does. This just makes him a football coach. He's also a hypocrite and liar who lived up to the "Senator" nickname in the end, his moral rectitude just a cover.
He got what was coming in the end, and now a comically inept Ohio State administration—TWO GAMES!—is going to get theirs. We have not seen the last of the gun in the desk drawer in Columbus.
While you'd have to be a Vest true believer to believe the accusations leveled in it are false, without a federal trail of evidence the track record of such things actually resulting in boot to the face is not great.
To me the most important bit about the SI article is the accusation about Pryor—love you, big guy xoxo—raiding the equipment closet for rad epic loot. That's something trackable. Not tracking it: failing to monitor. Tracking it and not being like "hey, Pryor, why do you need sixteen sets of shoulder pads": some other variety of major violation. Complicit equipment managers are a relatively common source of major violations.
Meanwhile, if the NCAA can't get Rose or Small or someone on the record it won't matter how obvious it is the entire Ohio State starting lineup should be suspended since there's no evidence other than "jeez, duh."
Via "The Monarch."
Why Tressel had to go, and why it was obvious, in the words of Mike Riley:
"Jim's deal is a lesson," Oregon State head coach Mike Riley said last month. "Anything that comes up, you've just got to give it to compliance right now. In our world today, you think it's not going to be found out eventually?"
Our world today, indeed. Ohio State discovered Tressel's knowledge of the tattoo parlor case in January only by digging up e-mail correspondence from April 2010.
"I tell our players all the time," Riley said. "As soon as you start going down the wrong track and you start doing something wrong, the clock starts ticking until the day you get caught, because it's going to happen."
If he wasn't fired the above would not be true and the entire rickety structure of NCAA compliance—built on self-reporting—would collapse. Ohio State suspending Tressel for two games was an outrageous joke that shows you the stark difference between the way Smith and Gee handled this and how adults would have. They've botched this from the start and will reap the whirlwind for their efforts.
BONUS: Wetzel on the react to the original press conference:
The moment called for solemn acknowledgement of a mistake and the promise to the university that the truth would be gathered. Instead it was a pseudo pep rally. My phone was flooded with calls and texts from administrators at other schools and conferences who couldn’t believe what they’d just witnessed.
Meanwhile, you can't throw a rock without hitting a Buckeye player excommunicating another Buckeye player for outing the program shenanigans. Tyler Moeller is the latest, this time taking shots at Mark Titus for stating the obvious. Can't wait to see the reaction to Robert Rose now. How many ex-Buckeyes have to state that many in the program are on the take before the others give up the ghost?
And, God, Pryor… I maintain an almost total ban on badmouthing specific kids as bad people but it's impossible to talk about Ohio State football without remarking on the fact that Pryor is a sociopath and this was obvious from the start:
Pryor showed that he felt entitled when he met questions from those who attended his collegiate announcement by scoffing, “Whether I was a bad kid or not, you‘re all still here.”
Not even the Touch of Tressel can redeem him. The car! He shows up anywhere in that car! He's not even a well-written villain—it's like he's a foil for Jackie Chan. Twitter search his handle for schadenfreude? Twitter search his handle for schadenfreude.
Former players react as in an ambivalent fashion. Wojo says this opens the door for Michigan, which yeah. It's almost reassuring that you can rely on David Mayo to come up with the stupidest possible take. Mets Maize has a cat + Keanu Reeves picture via serendipitous Google Image Search. Also words. Genuinely Sarcastic has the full dossier of Tressel's funny business, and he posted it Friday(!). BWS was hoping for more.
*[I know this is not a psalm. TIA.]
If the NCAA did independant investigations, college sports as we know it would look a whole lot different.
Conspiracy to commit fraud across state lines where the money at stake for a public institution amounted to millions and deprived other institutions of this revenue? I would not be surprised if the DOJ and FBI investigate Tressel & Co., in which case the investigators will divide and conquer the witnesses until somebody seeking immunity leads them to a treasure trove. When subpoenaed rats flee the burning ship, then it'll be FOIA time, baby. crossed_fingers/>
the prospect of DOJ and FBI getting into this, but doubtful it will happen. But like you said, if they do, then the shit will really hit the fan. Right now we have voluntary witnesses, former players and others associated with buckeye football spilling the beans to investigating journalists. If the law got involved, this whole scene would be something to behold. Maybe Kenneth Starr and his million dollar machine could drag this out for five years...lol
What I can't figure is, if the Vest really cares about all of these young men that he coaches and really wants them to mature into upstanding adult citizen's, then why lie about the selling of stuff. If you really care about someone you punish them when they are bad to teach them a lesson. I punish my children when they are bad, so they will learn that there is right and wrong in the world, and they should follow the right. More so, we all know that there are many rules in the world that are unfair or we don't like but still have to follow. Tressel, if you really cared about these kids then you would have punished them so hopefully they learn. Otherwise, you end up in the big leagues and fail like so many others because you thought the rules don't apply to you....
Or else he doesn't care and just wanted more W's....
The choice is yours?
just informed the goodwill is having a fire sale on red sweater vests.buy one get two free.
Tell me you wouldn't love to have a red sweater vest right now - it would be too much fun for words to wear one around, taunting OSU fans. Heck, I'd pay double to get one around now !
From the SI article, it sounds like far more than the six were involved. If OSU wants to avert long-term disaster, won't it have to do a thorough internal investigation before the fall season to see if there are other current players who are as ineligible as the five already suspended? Just losing the five already suspended will be hurtful for those five games, and maybe for the entire season if they go the supplemental draft route, but it sounded as if there may be quite a few more on the current roster who were part of the same tats for cash or free cars crowd.
I also wonder if this will not be the end for both Gee and Smith.
lol at you tagging pryor's new car photo as "pryor-fucktard"
But what's wrong with a winged cap?
It may have taken one of these, but it didn't take tinfoil to see Youngstown, and Clarett, and Troy Smith weren't just a trail of bad luck for the "Senator"...
If you've read the SI article--and perhaps it just features some accusations from disgruntled former employees--Tressel has been cheating from day one. This wasn't just one mistake. It was systematic flouting of the rules. But it also further illustrates that he is one of the most complex coaching figures possibly ever.
As the recently uncovered infractions indicate, he is a dishonest man. He was also behind the guard dogs incident in 2004, he lied about voting for his team #1 one year, he was probably behind the shitty field conditions in 2006. He's a liar.
But he isn't Nick Saban. He will never over-sign. He tried to be a leader to young men, despite being a huge hypocrite, whatever that all means now. Those who have met him have described him as a nice, ordinary guy. Tressel even once gave an interview to an LGBT magazine in which he stressed the importance of accepting and supporting gay players--who is brave enough to take that stance! His legacy is the tension between being someone who said and did all the right things and flouting the rules. I think that the story in the SI article about him and the speeding ticket pretty much sums up everything.