Vincent Smith is looking good...no homo

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March 26th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
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dpowell7
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Vincent Smith is looking good...no homo

I have watched the youtube video that was posted yesterday a few times. Number two caught my attention in the "wolverine" drill. I checked out the spring roster on mgoblue.com and it was vincent smith, a shifty frosh from florida. It seemed like every time he touched the ball he ended up coming out the other end with it. He consistantly made people miss or broke tackles. I am really looking forward to seeing this kid run. He seems like someone that will help out the offense immediatly. The only thought that is going through my head is if he has break away speed. He looks damn good around the LOS though.

Link for video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrTIsVPJLw

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March 26th, 2009 at 2:28 PM | I agree he looked good. But (Score:1)
WolvinLA
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I agree he looked good. But for a running back, I think breakaway speed is overrated. If you've made it to the point where breakaway speed is needed, it's already a good run. Mike Hart had terrible breakaway speed, and I don't have to tell you how that worked out.

March 26th, 2009 at 2:35 PM | thats a good point (Score:1)
dpowell7
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i was always kind of envious of other teams that could break a 80 yrd run and get into the end zone. That was the only discouraging thing about hart is that he would run for 30 or 40 yards and we would have to kick a feild goal... But I'm not trying to take anything from Hart either he was one of if not the best back we have ever had.

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March 26th, 2009 at 2:41 PM | Don't get me wrong, all (Score:1)
WolvinLA
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Don't get me wrong, all things equal you want your RB to have break away speed. But unless the LOS is inside your own 20, if your RB gets into the open field, it's going to be a long run, either scoring of putting you in great position. I'm just saying I'd rather have a guy who is good at getting the first 10 yards than a guy who can break one every now and then.

All that said, V Smith looks like a tough guy to chase down from behind.

March 26th, 2009 at 3:42 PM | Are we talking about top-end (Score:1)
baleedat
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Are we talking about top-end speed?

IMHE

March 26th, 2009 at 4:13 PM | Everyone knows RB speed is irrelevant (Score:1)
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because Mike Hart

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March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 PM | I hope you're making a joke. (Score:1)
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I hope you're making a joke. No one said RB speed is irrelevant. As a "running" back, being able to run fast is important. However, having breakaway speed, I submitted, it overrated. Not "because Mike Hart." I was saying that I would prefer a guy like Mike Hart who didn't have breakaway speed, than a guy who has it but rarely gets the opportunity to showcase it. Every RB we will put on the field will be quite fast. In my opinion, getting to the open field it more important than what you do once you're there.

March 26th, 2009 at 4:41 PM | Recruiting doesn't matter because (Score:1)
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Jason Gwaltney

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

March 26th, 2009 at 2:45 PM | I was going to make a thread (Score:1)
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I was going to make a thread like this yesterday. I admittedly don't know a lot about running back vision since I never played running back, but Smith really seems to find holes and make great moves during the Wolverine drill. I know that this is just practice tape so it doesn't mean much, but I think that's pretty encouraging considering the speed that Smith is known for.

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March 26th, 2009 at 2:55 PM | A couple of notes..... (Score:1)
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....Vincent Smith looks fast, period, with great moves. A tough guy to tackle.

Big Will looks monstrous. He will help immensely this fall.

Brandon Minor was making people look foolish.

Tate's throwing was largely accurate, with the right combination of zip and touch. There were no wounded ducks like with Sheridan, and no misguided laser beams like Threet. He will be a definite upgrade this fall.

March 26th, 2009 at 3:32 PM | Definitely agree about Tate. (Score:1)
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Definitely agree about Tate. I'd like to see him tighten up the spiral a bit, but he hit all of the receivers right in stride. There's just a marked difference between the passes from Sheridan and him -- Sheridan's passes had poor touch and were just sort of in the general area of where they needed to be. Tate's passes hit the receivers right in stride, which will benefit us greatly.

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

March 26th, 2009 at 5:20 PM | Not only that, but it seems (Score:1)
gater
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Not only that, but it seems like Tate's arm strength is somewhere between Threet's and Sheridan's. This means that we should be able to attempt passes down field when the need arises like we could with Threet, but couldn't with Sheridan.

March 26th, 2009 at 3:16 PM | What number was Will Campbell (Score:1)
Sommy
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What number was Will Campbell wearing? I couldn't remember. I want to go back and watch the video again.

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

March 26th, 2009 at 3:21 PM | #73, he looks big (Score:1)
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#73, he looks big

EDIT: Haha, I hope that we've answered your question

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March 26th, 2009 at 3:18 PM | #73 is Big Will (Score:1)
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#73 is Big Will

March 26th, 2009 at 3:19 PM | 73 I agree about Smith and (Score:1)
IfOne
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73

I agree about Smith and Minor. Looks good.

March 26th, 2009 at 3:30 PM | WC73 looks like a house. (Score:1)
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WC73 looks like a house.

March 26th, 2009 at 4:43 PM | Yeah, a brick shithouse. Get (Score:1)
Sommy
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Yeah, a brick shithouse.

Get it? WC? Shithouse?

That's it, Campbell's nickname from now on is "Water Closet."

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

March 26th, 2009 at 4:30 PM | Was HB #2 that good or S #3 that bad? (Score:1)
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(The names have been EA Sports-icized to protect the innocent)

HB #2 certainly did look FRESSSSH on those runs, particularly the 2nd one (2:08), but let's look at that one real quick.

LG #56 (-1) whiffed on DT #95, who then, in turn, whiffed (-1) on the tackle thanks to HB #2 (+1)'s quick footwork.

TE #80 (+2) absolutely OWNED S #3 (-2), who was locked up and pushed out of the original lane, and was then turned around and escorted back the other way when the play reversed.

WR #26, playing the downfield blocker, got good position on CB #29 initially, but when the play reversed, he rode the defender into the play. Fortunately for him, the cornerback (-1) then over-committed, running into the pile instead of watching the lane, and thus freeing the path for the runner.

Offense:
HB #2: +1
LG #56: -1
TE #80: +2
WR #26: 0

Defense:
DT #95: -1
CB #29: -1
S #3: -2

Takeaway: I'd say HB #2 is definitely elusive and able to take advantage of what he sees. LG #56 looks young. TE #80 looks like a great blocker, but it's possible the guy he was blocking (S #3) just made him look good. On defense, DT #95 is a big, hulking giant who can dominate with size, but plays a bit too high, and can get beat too easily in space. CB #29 looks like a legacy recruit who's still learning.

And as for S #3, I wouldn't let him near the field. But then again, this is just one play; he could be a 4.5-star, senior 3rd year starter* just having a bad play for all I know.

At the end of the play, S #40 and S #28 slapped each other five. Perhaps it was to wish the next guy good luck. Or maybe they're the guys competing for playing time with S #3...

*Shit.

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March 26th, 2009 at 4:34 PM | P.S. (Score:1)
Seth
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On another of HB #2's runs (3:06), you can see SS #3 beat again by TE #80, who escorts him outside of the cones.

This guy looks brutal!

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March 26th, 2009 at 4:34 PM | and........ (Score:1)
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we have our first dig on stevie brown LOL

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March 26th, 2009 at 4:51 PM | honestly (Score:1)
dex
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I hope you are joking. I really do.

If not - you really can't figure out why Webb (6'4, 254, Tight End) would have a distinct advantage when lined up in a 3 point stance against Stevie Brown (6'0, 209)?

You don't think the 50 pound weight advantage has anything to do with it, perhaps?

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March 26th, 2009 at 5:15 PM | AWESOME!! (Score:1)
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A UFR. For a Wolverine Drill. In the spring. My people!

March 27th, 2009 at 8:24 AM | cosign (Score:1)
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cosign

March 27th, 2009 at 9:56 AM | I don't think I have ever (Score:1)
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I don't think I have ever read such a thorough analysis of one rep of one drill in my life, particularly by someone who is just a fan. I don't think we should read too much into anything in practice at this point, because it's a looooong time till the fall.

Also, stevie brown- bashing in public is really bad for the cause.

March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 PM | Michael Cox (Score:1)
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looks like he will be impressive as well. #15

March 26th, 2009 at 6:57 PM | really? (Score:1)
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He seemed to run straight if there was a giant hole straight ahead, and get tackled almost immediately if there was not.

March 27th, 2009 at 9:22 AM | Yes. Mike Cox's quite (Score:1)
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Yes. Mike Cox's quite impressive.

IMHE

March 27th, 2009 at 1:00 PM | Eh, I was left a bit (Score:1)
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Eh, I was left a bit unsatisfied. No offense, but I expected more.

March 27th, 2009 at 2:21 PM | Well Mike Cox's pretty big, (Score:1)
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Well Mike Cox's pretty big, and sometimes has to power through holes if the gap isn't big enough. This can be quite painful for those on the receiving end.

IMHE

March 27th, 2009 at 10:12 PM | HUR HUR HUR THAT'S WHAT SHE (Score:1)
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HUR HUR HUR THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID HUR

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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